don't even know how to vote on this rubbish.
will I be fined if I skip voting?
that's all I want to know.
if I do vote, I will say no, just out of protest to the idiots who cooked this shit up
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I don’t agree with you or how you misquoted me but no point banging on like pork chops about it.
Me personally, if it wasn’t compulsory I probably wouldn’t vote, but because it is ill vote yes. Not sure why exactly.
Just like if the federal election results were blinded no body would even know who won based on the effect of their daily lives. The people voting no wouldn’t have a clue if ended up going through.
Good intentions, but bad execution… not that my opinion means much lol.
don't even know how to vote on this rubbish.
will I be fined if I skip voting?
that's all I want to know.
if I do vote, I will say no, just out of protest to the idiots who cooked this shit up
I dislike "Welcome to country" speeches. I was born in Australia, so were my parents, so were my grand parents, so were my great grand parents. It's *my* country as much as anyone else who is alive today, Aboriginal or not. I don't like the idea that I need to be welcomed to my own country. Where else do I belong?Originally Posted by Soccerfan
On the referendum - it's a no from me. I think they should have created it via legislation first so we could have an idea how it would work, then put up a constitutional amendment to make it permanent. As it stands, it all looks like it will end-up being very un-democratic and exclusive, if the referendum get's up.
I think it’s more of a ceremonial thing and respect/recognising for people/communities who were here 65,000 years before your great grandparents, great great grandparents got off the boat from Great Britain.
Technically you’re more British, than “Australian” when looking at lineage.
Why not... Kind of what Dutton and his goon show are continuing to do?
Never bring an intellectual discussion to forum whose main purpose is the satisfaction of cock relief.
Maybe everyone here should go to a REPUTABLE source of information instead of banging on about what you "reckon" will happen if we say yes to an ADVISORY body that the government will CONSULT with when dealing with legislation that DIRECTLY affects indigenous Australians.
This body has NO POWER whatsoever and is not a third chamber in parliament.
But that's just me.....
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Thanks mate, appreciate it.
I just checked the mail box and found a flyer on the yes vote, top 10 myths about the Voice to Parliament Debunked.
And then on the reverse side it goes on to explain it self.
They are really trying to push this agenda, and no matter what the majority of the votes are, i have a feeling it will be passed through as the government has spent millions of tax payers dollars on this campaign.
It’s just going to be like the marriage equality vote of 2017 where a majority of the country voted against it but it still passed.
Just make sure to wear your tin foil hat when voting and make sure your not connected to 5G and you’ll be sweet mate.
Also destroy the flyer ASAP it could be bugged!!!
Yes you will be fined if you don't vote without a legitimate excuse.
It's an empty gesture, no point in continuing it without any real action. If we're really sorry for what we did, just give the country back and everyone leave the country. If we're not willing to do that, then just stfu about it.
Vote No.
I did today, early voting is great, don't have to waste a precious Saturday standing in line.
Observing traditional cultures, native ceremonies, dance or whatever is not an empty gesture imo, it’s actually done all over the world. I think if someone lacks their own culture, tradition, language, identity etc… it might be seen as an empty gesture, which is understandable.
I’m assuming you see the Hakka as an empty gesture, plenty are facinated and humbled by it.
When other people are celebrating these, you can always just put some headphones in and listen to Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt or just read or educate yourself even more (if that’s possible) by catching up on the latest AR’s on this forum then everyone can be happy.
Continue the discussions, very interesting
Can I daydream for one minute
I wish there could be discussion about important issues without once anyone mentioning the following words
Right
Left
Far right
Far left
Fascist
Labor
Liberal
Communist
Socialist
Albo
Dutton
White privilege, white middle aged or other variations
Racist
Dickhead
Ignorant
Tin foil hat (awful cliche from the US)
(Feel free to pick out the other useless words used in this thread from both sides)
It's really easy to dumb down discussions by using these words or a combination of them
Watch any US news and get really bored with hearing these terms which are an excuse to avoid actually discussing the issue
Healthy vibrant exchange of ideas stops once you use these words
Instead, confirm someone's point of view, discuss that point of view, and you're done. Don't belittle people, it's fine for someone to have an opposing opinion
Don't just justify your own opinion by exclaiming 'Albo is a dickhead' or any of the other combinations above
Ignore the daydream
Back to the discussion
An interesting perspective on what the Voice agenda is really about: https://rumble.com/v3n2eak-grandmoth...uised-as-.html
Alex Jones?? The dude who also had the interesting perspective that school shootings in the US were a hoax and the families were all actors pretending their kids were killed? Then sold dodgy health supplements and other crap to his conspiracy theory loving audience and made millions?
I would probably look for other sources of information.
Lol it's the discussion police!
But what exactly in the video do you disagree on though?
Can't even have a civilised discussion if you're just going to smear people with the typical "conspiracy theorist" response. That's just a typical gaslighting tactic from a narcissist.
I'm not going to watch an Alex Jones video because I know from watching previous ones that they are devoid of truth and I don't know why you would select him as a source of information. Shit it's not like I called you a gaslighting narcissistFrisson is gonna have to add a few words to his discussion ban list.
Wow, that's an abysmal fucking argument. So the UN is utilizing the AEC as part of a global conspiracy to force citizens to conform to voting standards they don't agree with?
I'll cut you a break, watch this video as a counter-argument. It's 37mins shorter and makes more sense - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAqIypjk-5A
Re: If someone votes at two different polling places within their electorate, and places their formal vote in the ballot box at each polling place, their vote is counted.
It's a complete furphy, there in no way the AEC will allow this and it is committing electoral fraud. That's why we're always asked at the polling station if we had voted before in any election (or referendum).
The AEC’s “Enrolment Fraud and Multiple Voting” document quotes the Referendum Act which states that a person is guilty of a criminal offence if they intentionally vote more than once in the same referendum. The penalty is 6 months imprisonment for each illegal vote.
https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Pub...ple-voting.htm
"Fine" if you don't vote, great, I won't vote... LOL!
Personally I'm voting no, because other interest groups and lobby groups are also calling for similar voice rights. Where does it end? We all have a voice now, this creates privileged access to minorities. Don't get me wrong, I do support aid and targeted programs to assist those in need, and those should be done with the involvement and buy in of those people. But this Voice is a road too far. My own opinion only.
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