Quote Originally Posted by woodland View Post
I agree with you frisson.

Although having taken such a massive pieces of land (in Australia and North America), along with the slave trade and centuries of abuse in colonial outposts in India, Africa and Asia has really given Wastern nations a substantial leg up over any other power.
Had the West acted the way the say they have acted - via rule of law, free speech, free trade and non aggression -purely through good governance and work ethic this advantage would be a lot smaller.


Say there's two families A and B - both similar levels of assets.
Father A raids and the house of B and takes most of the wealth.
This wealth is then invested wisely in investments and education. Son A goes to elite an school and graduates top of his class at Oxford. Son A donates to charitable causes.
Father B drinks to his demise after most of his wealth is taken.
Son B struggles to make ends meet - uneducated and unemployed.

We, as a culture, tend to focus a lot more on the success of Son A, attributing the success of Family A on the son's work ethic and education etc.
Rather, methinks most of the success is driven by the dirty work of Father A.

Just here to give a different point of view.

Once a country slides into poverty its very hard to overcome it. Just look at Argentina.
The way China managed to bootstrap itself out of poverty without violence is very respectable. Few other countries have managed. Taiwan of course being another.
Well said Mr Wood. Spot on on your different point of view. I don't think this two average Americans here would agreed with you !!!
The west raid and steal to climbing to the top.

Once Fallen no empire ever come back- Roman, Mongolia etc. The British empire is gone, usa has taken over after ww2....now the USA is beginning to fall !

China- is the only country
that's rise from the
bottom to the top 4
times.

Reading some of the posts makes laughs so hard thinking they're expert haha." Lifting out of Poverty is a myth " haha get real dudes . Have any of you been to China in the 80s? Then 2000 ? And the last 10 yrs? Well I had...

Look at the high speed rails? In short 10yrs china have the longest speed rail the world's combined( 42, 00km) . It took them 5 yrs to build the Beijing Airport...Sydney tram 25km how time over budget?

Can you two name another country?