Thanks OP Woodland for your post.

I have been to China more than a few times but not in the last 5 years or so. While I haven't heard of David Dumbrill previously, I had been following Serpentza & laowhy86 on & off for a while now. I particularly liked their YouTube clips when motorcycling all around China & have been to some of the places they have shown.

I think they are a bit OTT at times, but I do understand their way of thinking, expecially given the extreme measures the CCP take to show just how wonderful their country is and to hastily cover up anything that goes wrong, and all the while heaping shit on every western nation that does not submit to their whims / demands.

Just my 2 cents worth, cheers.