Slowdown in punting reports due to cost of living crisis?

[kayofa]

I think you are mistaken to think it is a supply and demand business. Good WL/ML can set there rates and get work. Profile the top K girls at Ginza. 8 hours a day booked taking $225 or so an hour. Probably close to $2K per day. 4 to 5 days per week. Now it is quiet. Let's say bookings down 50% then they are on $1K per day. Do you think they will drop the rate, fuck twice as much to make the 2K per day. Not likely. And the shop isn't going to want that either.
There is a lot of good shops doing it tough at present. They need to keep girls working but can't afford to lose good girls for cheap punters. And the cheap shops can't afford to pay good girls to come and work at cheap rates. It is the punter that has to reset. Unfortunately, the good times are over for many.

Like Uncle Scrooge McDuck said, "Money has to perform its function and circulate, otherwise it'll be worthless!"

With all the sex workers making all that money I wonder if they ever let the money recirculate back into the market?

On the other hand there's some potential good news - Chinese investment property owners in Brisbane and GC are selling their properties in droves to fund their failing businesses back in China, however the bad news is that the money is flowing out overseas instead of being recirculated locally.

Money hoarded in banks with zero interest are the worst contributors to recession. The only type of stimulus needed in this country is the drop in pricing to get people to start spending confidently.

[CharlieM]

I'm no economics expert. But one thing I have noticed is that since Covid there has been a significant spike in the cost of living. I can't think of anything that hasn't significantly increased in price over the past few years. From electricity, rents, groceries, mortgages,fuel etc.
I have had to raise my prices for my services in my business to partially curb the effects of the increase in costs to myself. The way I look at it is that Shops are facing the same dilemma and so are the working girls. They are not immune to the effects of inflation because its the "sex industry". Obviously the cost to run a shop today is significantly higher than it what it was in 2020. Your local Thai restaurant isn't dropping their prices even if business hasn't been so good lately. Its the opposite, they have increased their prices to meet the increase in costs.

As a good mate of mine would say back in the day when we were fucking streetwalking WLs up at the Cross "wank wank money in the bank"

[GoldfishMan]

There are so many things that affect prices that are beyond the supply and demand theory. In fact, the only type of product that I can think of where you can actually apply that theory perfectly 100% are fad/collectible items like beanie babies.
Anything else, there are other factors that affect prices. For punting, it sure as heck ain't a perfect curve.

As The Sampler rightly said, there are punters out there who can still afford to pay the high prices. Or there are punters who have made this hobby a compulsive habit, who punt even when they can't really afford it. On the other side, there are punters who are so financial stuck that even cutting prices by 50% they wouldn't punt.

Also need to consider, what are the alternatives to punting? Pull a girl on Tinder?

When the supply demand curve is so "noisy", then the shops will be asking "why would I cut my prices by 20% of it would not bring in more than 20% in sales volume?".

[Jack-Jack]

Interesting thread......anyone else notice a bit of drop in the quality of girls coming in either bit bigger size or slightly older than what we used to be blessed with?

also - any regulars that go kyoto/sakura and notice they have caved a bit in that some of their super young girls now at the $310 mark when they used to casually put them at like $330?

[faruk]

Also need to consider, what are the alternatives to punting? Pull a girl on Tinder?

Jerk off to porn. Each jerk off saves you $200-300.

[kpopcity]

Interesting thread......anyone else notice a bit of drop in the quality of girls coming in either bit bigger size or slightly older than what we used to be blessed with?

also - any regulars that go kyoto/sakura and notice they have caved a bit in that some of their super young girls now at the $310 mark when they used to casually put them at like $330?

Yep, i noticed that too. C Chance was 350 or 360/hr, J Mion last time was 360 or 380/hr I think. C Venus who I never expected to come back to Ginza is now back, so Im guessing she needs the money.

In terms of quality for sure - nothing compares to pre-covid. But I would also argue this could be a shift due to immigration. Precovid, a lot of girls in the shops were from mainland China, which has a low gdp per capita. Many young premium girls are willing to work for 250-300/hr (1000 rmb), with pretext they can get a lot of customers. Raking in 5000 rmb a day is a monthly salary in their home city. Since immigration policy is making it hard for them to get visas, a lot of Visas now go to people from India, Nepal, Vietnam and Japan (when I walk around George St, you notice a lot more Indians and international student Viets). And the thing with Japan is, if a true Japanese stunner stays in Japan, she probably can make a lot more than Aus since the prices isnt too different. There isnt really much incentive for the beautiful girls to leave Japan and come to Aus due to them being a wealthier nation than rest of Asia.

However, that being said, K Miki is still 380/hr hahaha. We would truely be in a recession if she drops her prices

[Spanky69]

It is the punter that has to reset. Unfortunately, the good times are over for many.

You want a nice car you pay the money.
You want a nice house you pay the money.
You want a nice WL/ML you pay the money.

That’s how it is.

For a female to offer her body to a guy for $250 or $300ph is acceptable I’d say. She’s engaging in a high risk activity and should be rewarded accordingly. Not just her body is on offer but her psyche.

If the guys cannot pay the hourly rate then go work a second job, go hustle, go sell your grandmother.

Don’t bitch about it.

Next thing you’ll be wanting cheap cars, cheap fuel, cheap alcohol and even cheaper women!

Nothing is going down only up.

Remember that.

[Spanky69]

Jerk off to porn. Each jerk off saves you $200-300.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking when I was called a “jerk off” yesterday, but hey at least I’m saving money. That’s a joke son, a joke…

[GoldfishMan]

Quality of girls cumming here is probably related to the strength of the AUD. On the 5-year charts, you can see how weak our currency has been against the CNY, KRW, JPY, etc. Even against the JPY where our currency is on the up trend, it's only because the JPY is tanking very badly. SGD/JPY is an even steeper curve than AUD/JPY, for example.

[Niceguy11]

There are so many things that affect prices that are beyond the supply and demand theory. In fact, the only type of product that I can think of where you can actually apply that theory perfectly 100% are fad/collectible items like beanie babies.
Anything else, there are other factors that affect prices. For punting, it sure as heck ain't a perfect curve.

As The Sampler rightly said, there are punters out there who can still afford to pay the high prices. Or there are punters who have made this hobby a compulsive habit, who punt even when they can't really afford it. On the other side, there are punters who are so financial stuck that even cutting prices by 50% they wouldn't punt.

Also need to consider, what are the alternatives to punting? Pull a girl on Tinder?

When the supply demand curve is so "noisy", then the shops will be asking "why would I cut my prices by 20% of it would not bring in more than 20% in sales volume?".

Exactly bro. When punting becomes too much you either run out of money or start dipping into savings.

[schloong]

A simple equation for me - if I can't afford to punt, I don't...

[Double_Adapter]

Jerk off to porn. Each jerk off saves you $200-300.

For the bros. doing it tough, here's a few words of encouragement from a prolific masturbator

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[Dmam]

Microeconomics theory has long incorporated spending on vices and essentials into its supply/demand curve analysis. It has always been known that vices and essentials have what are known as inelastic demand curves. If something is heavily desired/needed and substitutes are imperfect, then the demand curve will be inelastic. Nothing is perfectly inelastic but other things will be sacrificed to a point.

Cigarettes are a good example. People always prioritise spending on addictions. Look at how much successive governments have tried to tax away that addiction and studies prove that it was the graphic advertisements including as to impotence that did far more to change behaviours than the enormous price rises.

Petrol and medicines have inelastic demand curves. You need petrol for your car and other things will be sacrificed if you need your car to go to work.

The US Government learned this the hard way with the War on Drugs. When supply is restricted and prices go up, a crack addict does not wake up in the morning and say “Jeez, need to cut down on my crack consumption”. They find a way, legal or illegal, to finance their habit. This is why crime rates shot up. Suppliers, knowing the demand is inelastic will risk it all to enter the market.

Punting is relatively inelastic. Of course not perfectly so, but people want it and substitutes (your hand, Tinder) are imperfect. What stops a lot of the spend is that many guys have significant others and it is harder to hide the spend when money is tighter. If they were left to their own devices, they would prioritise the spend.

Also, the popular cauc privates are doing fine. There are a lot of people in the East and lower North Shore with paid off mortgages and there is a lot of money still sloshing around those communities. Iin other areas, yes business will be slower, but there will always be a strong market. It is why people pay ridiculous amounts in countries where it is illegal.

[Spanky69]

I think the going rate for sex varies with the suburb, just like fuel for example.

[thepoonter]

I notice N5M has discounts now if you book early in advance and Ginza has a few WLs at $280/hr now. Probably due to less demands from punter

[Footballpunter]

So I've been getting conflicting answers when I ask both WLs and shops. Some told me it's been really quiet while others told me they are still getting 90-100% everyday. But the fact that N5M is starting a discount probably means that in general it's not going so well. Perhaps it's a consolidation period where the popular girls get even more business while punters trying to get the most out of their now-limited funds while the less popular ones goes quiet.

[massage addict]

One of regulars of at least 2 years told me last week after a nude hand job session " sorry its not $50 any more honey" Oh, how much is it? She says $70 or $80. Fuck i only have a 3 pineapples and a blue swimmer on me, which I mistakenly pulled out of my pocket to give her the standard pineapple. So, I give her another one, and ask for change. She leaves, comes back, and gives me $20. mmmm... I guess it s now $80 for a nude handy. Fuck me a 60% price rise. I normally pay $100 for b2b and Daty, or a head job. I didn't ask how much that was now, $160? I will never know as I will not be returning to see her again. Its a shame as she gave an incredible part 1, and part 2 was above average as well.

[Icegodofhungary]

I’m in a fortunate position at the moment where I can afford a regular punt, though money is precious enough right now that I don’t want to feel like I’ve wasted it on a dud punt. I’ve found a shop where the track record of good to bad is ver favourable and pretty much sticking to that- not trying further afield even though I appreciate I might be missing that greener grass on the other side.

And even then I am tending to repeat visit favourites more or as much as than taking a risk on someone new.

Trying to give something back by posting a few ARs.

[faruk]

I spoke to a regular ML who told me that Sunday was very quiet for the whole shop. I was surprised given the weekend should normally be quite busy, and it wasn't bad weather or anything.

[RO1312]

One of regulars of at least 2 years told me last week after a nude hand job session " sorry its not $50 any more honey" Oh, how much is it? She says $70 or $80. Fuck i only have a 3 pineapples and a blue swimmer on me, which I mistakenly pulled out of my pocket to give her the standard pineapple. So, I give her another one, and ask for change. She leaves, comes back, and gives me $20. mmmm... I guess it s now $80 for a nude handy. Fuck me a 60% price rise. I normally pay $100 for b2b and Daty, or a head job. I didn't ask how much that was now, $160? I will never know as I will not be returning to see her again. It’s a shame as she gave an incredible part 1, and part 2 was above average as well.

Yep… that will be counting me out too