...if we use WTO's HDI metric system then prostitutes working in our neck of the woods are technically not considered third world.Originally Posted by 11Bravo
And, MY experience, most prostitutes in developed countries come from third world countries; follow the money - duh.
DISCLAIMER: The above statement might be skewed due to the author's preferred demographics.
Why don't we be more specific? I have in mind WLs from Japan, China and Korea. They're not exactly third world countries.And, MY experience, most prostitutes in developed countries come from third world countries; follow the money - duh.
DISCLAIMER: The above statement might be skewed due to the author's preferred demographics.
OK, I'll play... fourth base? What game is that?
Yeah the aforementioned SEA countries et al have moved on with the times.
Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia, Chad, Haiti, Rwanda, Somalia, Togo, Uganda et al are considered 3rd world countries, and as far as I know there's no WLs from those countries working here.
Learn something new every day. Now, about that 4th base...
Certainly Japan and Korea are 1st world. Thailand and Vietnam, I'm going to switch to 2nd world, certainly outside the major cities. Maybe still outdated, so lets say more an agrarian society. Or at least a WIDE disparity in wealth distribution (run over and kill a cop... not a problem if you have the money... but that average delivery guy being shaken down by a cop...) Then start comparing salaries with costs... know what a new car costs in Thailand, compared to an office worker's salary... Private hospital or govt hospital (not quite live or die, but... just ask a Thai which they'd prefer). Sure, BKK seems quite well off, but isn't there a reason why there are so many som-tam carts out on the street in the heat....
I will admit I was lumping in China with the latter, and China is certainly not 3rd world, but... with 1.4 billion people, not everyone is going to be middle class. Frankly, I was amazed at the lack of govt social programs in a communist/socialist/whatever state. I think you might be hard-pressed to find that CentreLink number in your standard PRC city... Education free up to 9th grade (though still allowed to charge for extras (hmmm, does THAT sound familiar?), but good ole high school and university... not everyone's getting in, and even if you do, better have some cash for tuition... Granted, I'm just not that familiar with govt financial aid programs there. Perhaps Machiavellian, but you have to keep that supply of factory workers coming to build all those Apple phones, electric cars, etc., etc. And those factory workers, what, $1000/month, but I know some small shop workers making half that. And I do know that older workers, say 30ish, are discriminated against in the service (example restaurant) industry - perception is that they're just not going to move as fast as a 20ish someone. Medical/dental fees can seem low to me, but then, I'm not working for $1k/month... that $15 extraction could seem to be a better choice than that $100 crown for some... Winter heating costs, piped in hot water or coal... neither are free. Medical insurance costs, govt retirement fees so you might get something when you retire... Sure, if you're working in that major bank in Beijing, Shanghai... might not be a problem. But if you don't have permission to move there, and you're stuck in "my hometown-ville", small business... money might be a bit tighter...
So... if your own education has been somewhat stunted, your family is not middle class, but you still want a better future... such as a house/owned apartment, savings for retirement, food on the table, getting your kid in a good school... that $1000/month isn't going far. Maybe if there's 2 of you... but death of a husband, his bailing... doesn't seem like child support is going to be top agenda in a male dominated society... But I'm guessing there...
So the opportunities and paths open for advancement just might not be as open as one would think in a 1st world country. If nothing else, a LOT of competition for that job. 9th grade education, even a high school one, might go a lot further elsewhere if there's a couple of orifices available... Kid put through school, parents have a comfortable retirement, you just might be able to afford that apartment (if it ever gets built), dad gets his medicine, sibling gets an education... NEVER underestimate the family obligations in an Asian family... Big difference between 1st world and equal opportunity for all... All those PRC uni kids you see overseas... I doubt that all that many have factory worker parents...
That's my view and experience. YMMV.
With the current cost of living and housing prices out of reach for most of our young, we're just barely clinging on to 1st world status.
My level of sarcasm depends on your level of stupidity.
Perhaps a house on a quarter acre block isn’t the way things are done anymore. An apartment close to a station is the way to go now.
There isn’t any harm in renting is there? I see the only problem in paying rent to be old age. When you don’t have that job. Maybe social housing will be the way to go then?
The way I see it if you don’t work hard continuously when you can then you only have yourself to blame for your destiny.
NO disrespect meant.
My point in the above is that Australia's govt social safety net has a pretty fine mesh. Sick, disabled, injured... might take some time, but govt coin will eventually flow into your bank account. Unemployed? I don't know for sure, but methinks yes. Housing support might take years, but still a possibility. I was also told there's even govt payments for baby's milk (well to help support your kids while growing up). Free education through high school, etc., etc. Very possible pension, retirement, or social security payments for your old age.
Now, in China, certainly first world, but seems to me their safety net is a lot looser mesh, more along the lines of DIY, FAMILY supported. (Out of curiosity, used Google-is-your-friend to find Chinese monthly pension payments. Best case for the "you paid in" pension is around $500/month, while that BASIC state pension is the mind-numbing whopping amount of $28/month. If anyone has better info, step right up, and while my demographics might be "older", none has reached retirement age so the answers I've gotten are "not sure". China might be cheap, but I just don't think $28/month is going to make it... hello kids. And like many countries, those plans are at risk of running out of money with an increasing aging population coupled with a declining birth rate).
For both populations, a possible way to jumpstart a better future is off-shore employment. You served? Private security contractor pays very well. Good news: no more coat and tie. Bad news: ceramic vest. Tech skills? Money still to be made in oil, gas, pipelines, construction, etc., even if your view out the window might be "sparse", ala Middle East. Bad news is, the unskilled labor is all taken by TCN's, so having paid attention in uni, trade school does pay off.
Point is, 1st world Australia, why are so many griping about shrinking fortunes? Get a better job, higher salary, prepare for the future, what's the problem (NO disrespect). Or sit back and wait for CentreLInk to reach out, be content with your lot in life. But China, 1st world? Obviously, certainly. As a Thai would say, "same same, but different". The PRC's I've known and know, very smart, plan for the future. In another clime, I've escorted friends to the Hawala facilities, no need to explain where that income came from. In Sydney, bank transfer, WeChat has a lot of features IF you have a Chinese bank account... No doubt most are buying branded goods, proof that the expate life is working out, save-the-face gifts for back home, even to sell on the home leave. But AGAIN, my experience over a number of years in a number of countries, with those that I've known, it's family, Family, FAMILY...
MY experience, and again, NO disrespect intended.
China is not communist or socialist, it's an authoritarian capitalist dictatorship.
I think you are pretty well spot on there Bro 11Bravo...
My 2 favs in Thailand who I've known for YEARS, both have kids: 1 is a widow, the other told me "I picked the wrong guy..." Both stepped up and have taken care of their family, doing what they had to do. What amazes me neither is bitter with their lot in life, making the best out of it, and just genuinely nice people. I've told both they are proof that Thai guys ARE stupid as both are still single. But it's the Asian mentality (of the kids), "Not my blood..."
Wise words Bro ColesBag. Throw in all the usual cliches 'you don't pay them to fuck, you pay them to fuck off' and 'you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar...' etc.
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https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/read...ttle-too-deep/
The thrill is gone
It's gone away for good
Oh, the thrill is gone, baby
It's gone away for good
Someday, I know I'll be over it all, baby
Just like I know a man should
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