Bad punting days - regular closed/raided, refused service

[jandross45]

Earlier this week I went for a punt at one of my regulars, may beauty massage in enfield only to discover that it suddenly closed down. Furniture was dumped out the back, signs removed etc.. I later was told that it was raided with something to do with the local council, not surprised as they advertised their ladies as "students" but some didn't speaka word of English. Anyway the memories will live on...

However, I decided to give le soleil in croydon a fourth chance : first time I went to the place it had cops hanging around, second time I wasn't impressed with the small rooms that are actually a closest under a stairs and I went back a third time because a punter on this forum said it had a really nice room upstairs with a bed... it turned out to be a typical old inner westy mouldy smelling room, obviously bigger but no bed... wasn't feeling it..

Further, I decided to give this place another chance, the only girl available was a gorgeous thai called angel, before we discussed pricing she asked how big it was... I gave an approx size with my hands and she said too big, sorry and walked out. The owner was laughing and i wasn't in the mood anymore so left.

Then I went back a few days later and gave this place another chance stupidly, the only girl available was Abby.... she didn't look half as good/young as the photos they posted and didn't seem to speak English and left the room quickly before I asked how much her tips were going to be. The owner came back in and I told her that I wanted her for one hour with fs, she said no sorry and didnt elaborated further.... as I walked out I told her she is losing money, she replied that she doesn't care....

[Spectra]

A lot of workers come here on a student visa, that’s the in. Nothing wrong with that and as far as I know they are allowed to work a number of hours, 48 in a fortnight and full time during holidays if I remember correctly?

I’ve been to Le Soleil multiple times and never had an issue except a wait once because I’d simply forgotten to book. I was a walk in and I had to wait. Lesson learned on my behalf. My mistake. I know all about the shop and used pretty much every room except the one on ground floor out the back that sides along the walkway. Mimi’s. Different service offered there to what I was looking for so never ventured.

It’s my view they could turn the large room upstairs into two smaller ones with a simple divider facing the front street and even delete the kitchen which is upstairs too. I sat there when I was waiting that time and scoped it out. It’s way too big for something that’s not really used. Who needs a big kitchen? Know all about the stairwell room as my first experience was there and the girl was beautiful and super hot. It’s a pity I don’t remember a lot of their names as I’d have written reviews no doubt. The girls were alway sexy and accomodating, well for me they were.

Getting back to paying, my methodology is always to show a full wallet and make sure they see it. Then IF they’re interested they the MLs initiate it and let your money do the talking.

Just reread the last paragraph of your post, you cannot just front up and say I want FS to reception at a Massage shop. That is a big mistake and you’ll get brushed off. Try 219 the brothel on the other side of the station if you want to walk in and do that. It’s only 400m away, again though I advise booking first, though I’ve had some great experiences there too on just a walk in.

[hellozmane]

You must have a really poor appearance and/or hygiene if they're refusing to see you just like that.

[Orehcac]

Well look on the bright side mate at least you’ve got a big willy lol.

[11Bravo]

Earlier this week I went for a punt at one of my regulars, may beauty massage in enfield only to discover that it suddenly closed down. Furniture was dumped out the back, signs removed etc.. I later was told that it was raided with something to do with the local council, not surprised as they advertised their ladies as "students" but some didn't speaka word of English. Anyway the memories will live on...

Appreciate the intel on May's demise. Good shop, well run, mamasan cared. Shame. Based on off-shore, could be complaints from a competitor trying to put a good shop out of business. Disgruntled customer or ex-employee. Doubt it had anything to do with students, especially since most providers worked at most 2 days a week. Or maybe May's political contributions fell a bit short...?

Further, I decided to give this place another chance, the only girl available was a gorgeous thai called angel, before we discussed pricing she asked how big it was... I gave an approx size with my hands and she said too big, sorry and walked out. The owner was laughing and i wasn't in the mood anymore so left.

In ALL my experience, many years, many lands, never been asked THAT. Methinks the question, or any question, was just an excuse for her to pass.

Then I went back a few days later and gave this place another chance stupidly, the only girl available was Abby.... she didn't look half as good/young as the photos they posted and didn't seem to speak English and left the room quickly before I asked how much her tips were going to be. The owner came back in and I told her that I wanted her for one hour with fs, she said no sorry and didnt elaborated further.... as I walked out I told her she is losing money, she replied that she doesn't care....

I'd suggest some serious self-evaluation if you've been turned down by 2 different providers. From previous posts sounds like you dress well, so perhaps it's attitude? Maybe each, when business was good (only girl available), figured THEY could do better with a bit of patience. And kudos to an owner who looks after her workers.

[yellow_sub]

Interesting to see that Thai girl ask that question. You must be very tall or…big?

Owners will never say they provide FS. You said it in your first paragraph, places get raids.

Plenty of other shops around, don’t get personal from rejections.

[Zimmerman]

Having seen angel multiple times she currently has a boyfriend and doesn't do full service, so maybe that was why? And it's a massage shop, not everyone will be willing to do FS. If you want to do FS guaranteed go to a brothel...
And as someone pointed out above good for the mamasan to defend her shop

[faruk]

Having seen angel multiple times she currently has a boyfriend and doesn't do full service, so maybe that was why?

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

[11Bravo]

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

Economics... same as she'll provide FS but won't DFK...

[GoldfishMan]

Girls sure have a weird way of thinking - "I have a boyfriend so I won't have sex for money, but for money I will give blowjobs and let guys see me naked and grope me".

The girl is weird or is it the BF? Maybe he knows about her job, let's her continue doing it, and said "you can give blowjobs and let guys grope you, but you can't fuck them"?

[yellow_sub]

Economics... same as she'll provide FS but won't DFK...

Hahahah, lips are for boyfriend, everything else for money.

[yellow_sub]

The girl is weird or is it the BF? Maybe he knows about her job, let's her continue doing it, and said "you can give blowjobs and let guys grope you, but you can't fuck them"?

Spoke to a few ML. They have a way to lay out things so the BF will keep one eye shuts.

[11Bravo]

Hahahah, lips are for boyfriend, everything else for money.

And THAT is literally a true statement, heard from a WG.

[mn69]

Having seen angel multiple times she currently has a boyfriend and doesn't do full service, so maybe that was why? And it's a massage shop, not everyone will be willing to do FS. If you want to do FS guaranteed go to a brothel...
And as someone pointed out above good for the mamasan to defend her shop

This is very common. In a nutshell....

Alot of Thai working girls have a Farang "boyfriend". He most likely knows about her job as they met while he was a customer (this is always how it starts)

The "boyfriend" is an old bald fat Farang who is just a walking ATM machine for her. She most likely has a real Thai BF/Husband back in Isaan/Thailand and a few kids/family members she is sending money back to...

[Itskens112]

A lot of workers come here on a student visa, that’s the in. Nothing wrong with that and as far as I know they are allowed to work a number of hours, 48 in a fortnight and full time during holidays if I remember correctly?

I’ve been to Le Soleil multiple times and never had an issue except a wait once because I’d simply forgotten to book. I was a walk in and I had to wait. Lesson learned on my behalf. My mistake. I know all about the shop and used pretty much every room except the one on ground floor out the back that sides along the walkway. Mimi’s. Different service offered there to what I was looking for so never ventured.

It’s my view they could turn the large room upstairs into two smaller ones with a simple divider facing the front street and even delete the kitchen which is upstairs too. I sat there when I was waiting that time and scoped it out. It’s way too big for something that’s not really used. Who needs a big kitchen? Know all about the stairwell room as my first experience was there and the girl was beautiful and super hot. It’s a pity I don’t remember a lot of their names as I’d have written reviews no doubt. The girls were alway sexy and accomodating, well for me they were.

Getting back to paying, my methodology is always to show a full wallet and make sure they see it. Then IF they’re interested they the MLs initiate it and let your money do the talking.

Just reread the last paragraph of your post, you cannot just front up and say I want FS to reception at a Massage shop. That is a big mistake and you’ll get brushed off. Try 219 the brothel on the other side of the station if you want to walk in and do that. It’s only 400m away, again though I advise booking first, though I’ve had some great experiences there too on just a walk in.

219 still up and running?

[Spectra]

219 still up and running?

After the fire next door in January this year? It was closed for a while, the fumes from a hundred plus electric bikes going up was bad, the smoke covered a whole block. A lot of stuff was thrown out, mattresses etc. I saw the mamasan out in the street asking when they could open. It had to get checked over as they were very close to the fire and the heat was quite intense.

[RodgHerMoore]

OP should just go to try other places. Similar comments made in other threads. Sydney is such a big city, so many other places and girls you can go to. No point fixating on this.

Good luck brother J!

[AHLUNGOR]

Interesting thread, thanks for the efforts from the OP.

He did post a consolidated review on many shops and a good effort. As far as size goes, have a read of what he posted below and draw your own conclusions……… haha


Ps. Assuming the D is for his dick…… lol


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Abby 70 + 100FS, takes the D very well, terrible massage but 10/10 enthusiasm with everything else. chinese late 20s -30s, nice petite shaven body.

Sally 70 + 100FS, cant take the D very well, terrible massage but gets her face between your @sschecks and goes BL-ALALALALALA, thai early to late 30s, kinda nice body with tats, bolt ons that have missed the service date, she doesn't speak a word of English but understands hand gestures well.

Barbie 70 + 100FS, cant take the D very well (pulled translate out on her phone 30 mins into it and said "pain" "big" "long") she finished off with a good HJ then a good CBJ, chinese lates 20's or 30s, nice unshaven petite body with some boltons that needed some major service, she jokes and is funny at times but can kinda have an attitude sometimes.

[jandross45]

Hi guys, thankyou for your replies.. in the meantime I tried out a few places.

I went to a few places in north Strathfield... they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch... Additionally, its a legal business that pays taxes, follows regulations and does not exploit visa dodgers. These massage places are getting very arrogant and can't seem to grasp that what they are doing is illegal (not illegal for us though because we negotiate with the girl directly, but they know what is going on and based their business model around it)..... we are simply men that are looking for a discount with a cash sale... I'm reluctant to pay anymore than a $100 tip in any of this places due to the nature of what's going on adn the market elsewhere.

However, I will recommend lily @ Marrickville, nice rooms, shower, good attitude and a threesome is 250 altogether - 1 hour.

Now the D question... these girls want tax free brothel prices as tips but cannot seem to supply the service that is asked.. makes you think that they tried an official establishment once but cant handle the job, if they want to make $1200 a day then you need to know what's required.

I have friends and "colleagues" in their 20's and 30's that participate in these activities too and have the exact same problems. Seems that the girls want the senile older types ready to blow their weekly pension that are disappearing and a new energetic and 'hard' generation is taking over and they can't handle it. Additionally, I have hand some friends of Indian origin that were plain refused service because of their race... which is just disgusting in my opinion and if this happened at any official establishment I would discretely record the refusal and contact a civil litigation lawyer.

Further reading the thread, I feel really bad for any man that dates one of these girls... I would put them on a lower level than the guy that wifed up Mia Khalifa.... at least she isn't draining his finances.

[Zimmerman]

Hi guys, thankyou for your replies.. in the meantime I tried out a few places.

I went to a few places in north Strathfield... they want 70/80 for 45/1hr with a 150 tip and not willing to negotiate... for that price I can go to Ginza and have a nice room with a bed, shower, young quality women with real photos and no bait n switch... Additionally, its a legal business that pays taxes, follows regulations and does not exploit visa dodgers. These massage places are getting very arrogant and can't seem to grasp that what they are doing is illegal (not illegal for us though because we negotiate with the girl directly, but they know what is going on and based their business model around it)..... we are simply men that are looking for a discount with a cash sale... I'm reluctant to pay anymore than a $100 tip in any of this places due to the nature of what's going on adn the market elsewhere.

However, I will recommend lily @ Marrickville, nice rooms, shower, good attitude and a threesome is 250 altogether - 1 hour.

Now the D question... these girls want tax free brothel prices as tips but cannot seem to supply the service that is asked.. makes you think that they tried an official establishment once but cant handle the job, if they want to make $1200 a day then you need to know what's required.

I have friends and "colleagues" in their 20's and 30's that participate in these activities too and have the exact same problems. Seems that the girls want the senile older types ready to blow their weekly pension that are disappearing and a new energetic and 'hard' generation is taking over and they can't handle it. Additionally, I have hand some friends of Indian origin that were plain refused service because of their race... which is just disgusting in my opinion and if this happened at any official establishment I would discretely record the refusal and contact a civil litigation lawyer.

Further reading the thread, I feel really bad for any man that dates one of these girls... I would put them on a lower level than the guy that wifed up Mia Khalifa.... at least she isn't draining his finances.

I think it's more so that if you want to have guaranteed full service then go to a brothel, if you are okay with not having it then go to an rnt shop and chose who you like, or chose who you know offers FS. At the end of the day ladies in massage shop are only obligated to offer what they feel comfortable with and within what is offered or included in the shop price.