I never asked for a free 15 minute extension, I stated the massage had only started 15 minutes into the booking which was objectively true. Given the vibe of the session, in what world would I want to extend?
I never said it was your problem, it was just an observation that you arrived when the booking time was to start. I did ring the doorbell, but the other MLs were likely busy. I was on the table and ready well before the 15 min mark, so I don’t see how it’s the punters fault if they’re lying there on the table and waiting in the ML. That is a blatant lie, the massage had proceeded for 15 minute (30 mins into the 1 hour booking) when I mentioned that I enjoy teasing. I don’t see it as unreasonable to mention massage preferences just as you would prefer a hard or soft massage. I also didn’t ask for the flip at this point, I was merely stating a preference for teasing and not to be flipped. Note how I objectively stated you gave a good massage. Whether or not asking for payment upfront kills the vibe is up to the individual punter, I was stating my opinion. I asked you if I had gone wrong or misstepped but was repeatedly just given silent treatment. Yes I also stated that you gave a tenner back when you cut the session short by 15
minutes. Obviously there’s my side, your side and the truth.
I never asked for a free 15 minute extension, I stated the massage had only started 15 minutes into the booking which was objectively true. Given the vibe of the session, in what world would I want to extend?
Our time couldÂ’ve start straight if you didnÂ’t shower because I was ready everything before come to work. You had a shower for a while, hadnÂ’t you? You were really smelly before that so I understood you must enjoyed the shower. Then were keep looking at the clock after the massage started and you counted every minute. Not many customers do that shit. At 9am, I noticed to the shop that IÂ’ll arrive at 10am, but someone booked you at 10am. I canÂ’t blame her that she couldÂ’ve book you in about 10.15am.
Our time could’ve start straight if you didn’t shower because I was ready everything before come to work. You had a shower for a while, hadn’t you? You were really smelly before that so I understood you must enjoyed the shower. Then were keep looking at the clock after the massage started and you counted every minute. Not many customers do that shit. At 9am, I noticed to the shop that I’ll arrive at 10am, but someone booked you at 10am. I can’t blame her that she could’ve book you in about 10.15am.
You said that we started 15mins late, so I told you it’s because of you had a long shower, I didn’t shower here, then you said again, I went out from the room for bring a hot towel (it was only 2mins don’t lie), so also 10mins count. So it’s more 25mins from then? Again, if you didn’t say like that shit, you must had a good time cause I never leave the customer earlier than what they paid for. I did a silence because it was an useless argument. It’s my answer. Happy?
It is my personal preference and it was nothing against you. I know, I am still finding the right ML for me. It was great to meet you and if we had vibed, I would've booked you already.
It's great that you have western customers, more power to you for being resilient in this industry.
You all need to work on your communication skills 😂. Reading the last page just reeks of misunderstandings and assumptions
That......
And I wonder, when it becomes obvious during a session that client and ML don't 'click', for whatever reasons, if it wouldn't be better to be honest about it and either end the session there and then, perhaps with a partial refund, or continue with a different ML if available.
What about those of us who aren't losers? I guess we are good to go.
But guys whinging on a public forum about a “bad” punt, ffs get a grip. Is it your last dollar?
Chalk up a loss and move on.
Name and shame a rip off merchant, but this just sounds like a communication issue or entitled customer/ml syndrome
Every ml has many bad sessions a week. We may only have 1 or none.
I guess tax free money has a price.
I had a girl once tell me she was so happy to see me after dealing with chinese customers all day it was relaxing to see a white guy, I asked why out of curiosity, she said asian guys are demanding and sensitive, they make alot of requests from the first minute they get in the room.
White guys in general are more relaxed will take some massage time, chat abit about this and that more aren't as demanding or intense, rarely complain, if you make any mistake with an asian guy they will cry like a baby about it, white guys just brush it off it's alright no problems just go with the flow alot more relaxed encounter.
Obviously that's generalizations will be exceptions, but in general seems to be some ML feel asian guys are more demanding, more sensitive, complain more and can't relax when dealing with them, maybe this thread is an example of it and why honey feels how she feels.
Agree!
Poor communication, misunderstandings, assumptions and now we have he said she said.
I'm not taking sides but have to give props to Honey for coming online to put her side out there. Too often it's a one sided attack on ML's so always refreshing and sometimes entertaining to hear both sides.
It takes both parties to make the experience positive or conversely negative. It's not one sided here. If either one is putting out bad "vibes" regardless of the reasons it's not going to be a fun time for the punter or ML as clearly was the case here.
WTF is this shit. Doesn't sound like you actually talk to MLs, just want to feel better about yourself.
Let me add to this shit show of generalisations. Asian MLs in general prefer Asian guys to white punters. They feel culturally better aligned unless you are a Chinese punter. MLs do have the same feelings about Chinese punters as we have about PRC MLs. Not to the same level of feeling about sub continent punter however.
White guys touch anywhere and everywhere without asking, often roughly. They think they give the best DATY, have a big dick and that money will get them any service.
They think that providing a service is the same as "i have a right over your body because I gave you $150 dollars for extras". They act like every ML is trying to get a visa. Be real most white punters are not the cleanest, they are hairy, a bit smelly, and no aftershave can only hide so much, and they will try to bargain. They start with I've been to Japan, or I like Chinese food, or say Anyonghaseyo and think the ML likes them or they've now bonded. White guys will attend drunk, drugged out or on Viagra a day expect a great service. In my years of punting I've walked out of rooms half a dozen times to help an ML to tell a punter to leave. Those punters have been white. Ive confronted two white stalkers one Asian, including at T5, SSDS and Touch. Thanks to those losers it made me look even better.
Me, I'm a halfie. Yes half white, half Asian.
MLs prefer not to see young Asian punters partly in case they run into them outside, and yes because some young asian guys have little social skills. Young Chinese guys are cry babies and old Chinese guys are demanding.
Punters have the right to walk if they don't like the ML. But its also rude to book an hour, see the girl and leave because you think she's ugly. If they are new to you book 30 minutes or just stay the hour. Make sure you are clear about your expectations of the ML and service, not I've been here before so give me the same, or I read you do bbfs for $100.
The reality is that we are all losers, paying for a hj,bj,fs. Some will deflect to the ML and call them where's and cunts who do anything for money, but we're the ones seeing them, booking out the shops.
@iamking You have many generalisations, but the final paragraph is accurate