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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    50,000 lost their jobs in March, 1.6 million people in mortgage stress, 29,521 businesses gone bust, budget deficit for the next 40 years, 1.2 trillion debt, highest number of homeless in history, record energy costs, declining standard living each year under Albo, and a lot of the employment were public service jobs. Do you want me to keep going? Interest rates going down is to stimulate the economy and the problem with wages rising is that productivity isn't. I am not a fan of Labor or the Libs but this Labor is a disaster plus Albo is weak leader with a glass jaw. He could't even admit when he fell off the stage when it was on film for all to see.
    I think the single most regretful act by Labor has been the stupid trade agreement they signed with India that opened the flood gates for mass Indian immigration into Australia. What the fuck were they thinking when they signed that? How stupidly gullible do you have to be to believe that that was going to be good for Australia?

    All those other things that you've listed above, I reckon LNP wouldn't have fared much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    I think the single most regretful act by Labor has been the stupid trade agreement they signed with India that opened the flood gates for mass Indian immigration into Australia. What the fuck were they thinking when they signed that? How stupidly gullible do you have to be to believe that that was going to be good for Australia?

    All those other things that you've listed above, I reckon LNP wouldn't have fared much better.
    totally, and yet they are hawks on china

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodland View Post
    totally, and yet they are hawks on china
    I don’t get it too. many Indians bringing their own families as everything just easy to let in compare to other countries. I swear this migration is uncontrollable is way too much and it’s hurting the economy of middle class but more sorry for the low class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    50,000 lost their jobs in March, 1.6 million people in mortgage stress, 29,521 businesses gone bust, budget deficit for the next 40 years, 1.2 trillion debt, highest number of homeless in history, record energy costs, declining standard living each year under Albo, and a lot of the employment were public service jobs. Do you want me to keep going? Interest rates going down is to stimulate the economy and the problem with wages rising is that productivity isn't. I am not a fan of Labor or the Libs but this Labor is a disaster plus Albo is weak leader with a glass jaw. He could't even admit when he fell off the stage when it was on film for all to see.
    Yes, please keep going with figures that lack context. Then tell me about how you expect Dutton and Angus Taylor to do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Adapter View Post
    In the meantime the labor party and a few parrots here be callling Dutton a Trump wannabe........what a load of fucken cow dribble! if anyone is a Trump wannabe its gotta be fucken Clive Palmer, both old, fat, billionaires that like playing golf.
    Dutton:

    Wants to create a department of government efficiency, sack public servants, cut services and spend more on private consultants
    Wants to charge students more for uni and tafe
    Doesn't believe in public healthcare
    Blames everything on immigrants
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive
    Wants to withhold funding from schools with "woke agendas"
    Wants to take away citizenship from people convicted of crimes and deport them even if they've lived here their whole life
    Wants to privatise public assets
    Doesn't believe in climate change and wants to support coal fired power even though it defies the free market
    Has a history of racism
    etc....

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    Sentiment analysis. Dutton has no chance according to real punters!

    https://www.tab.com.au/sports/bettin...ral%20Election

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Dutton:

    Wants to create a department of government efficiency, sack public servants, cut services and spend more on private consultants
    Wants to charge students more for uni and tafe
    Doesn't believe in public healthcare
    Blames everything on immigrants
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive
    Wants to withhold funding from schools with "woke agendas"
    Wants to take away citizenship from people convicted of crimes and deport them even if they've lived here their whole life
    Wants to privatise public assets
    Doesn't believe in climate change and wants to support coal fired power even though it defies the free market
    Has a history of racism
    etc....

    Bro you fucken giving me Reggie bubbles vibes. On one post you say you're not a Labor Party fan but then you go on a fucken rampage baggin the LNP - feels like it's coming straight out of a fucken labor party tv ad. Should I be like reading it in 1-2 secs flat as well?

    Fucken politicians, political parties and governments - never trust 'em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Adapter View Post
    Bro you fucken giving me Reggie bubbles vibes. On one post you say you're not a Labor Party fan but then you go on a fucken rampage baggin the LNP - feels like it's coming straight out of a fucken labor party tv ad. Should I be like reading it in 1-2 secs flat as well?

    Fucken politicians, political parties and governments - never trust 'em!
    Rampage? More like considered criticism. And why does not liking the Labor party mean I can't also criticise the LNP? And how does that not gel with your don't trust any politician or government philosophy? What are you complaining about? If you reject my comparisons of Dutton to Trump then tell me why instead of attacking me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by personaa View Post
    Sentiment analysis. Dutton has no chance according to real punters!

    https://www.tab.com.au/sports/bettin...ral%20Election

    The latest odds for the Labour Government to return is $1.08 which was like a Winx'r of Black Caviarish odds.

    The Opposition is $9.50 - given no chance by the bookies.


    Well, just for the sake of punting and in a two horse race, happy to put $10 buck on it................haha



    ps. hard to find a happy ending RnT session these days for anything less than a 2 pineapples though !

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Dutton:

    Wants to create a department of government efficiency, sack public servants, cut services and spend more on private consultants
    Wants to charge students more for uni and tafe
    Doesn't believe in public healthcare
    Blames everything on immigrants
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive
    Wants to withhold funding from schools with "woke agendas"
    Wants to take away citizenship from people convicted of crimes and deport them even if they've lived here their whole life
    Wants to privatise public assets
    Doesn't believe in climate change and wants to support coal fired power even though it defies the free market
    Has a history of racism
    etc....
    Dutton:

    Wants to create a department of government efficiency, sack public servants, cut services and spend more on private consultants...Brilliant!
    Wants to charge students more for uni and tafe...shpuld increase International students 25% more
    Doesn't believe in public healthcare...Bullshit !
    Blames everything on immigrants...Bullshit !
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive...Bullshit, Albanese tried to divide us by race with the Voice referendum
    Wants to withhold funding from schools with "woke agendas"...Great idea, force them to learn stuff that gets them in the workforce.
    Wants to take away citizenship from people convicted of crimes and deport them even if they've lived here their whole life...Another brilliant idea, get rid of all the gangs that are causing havoc in our community.
    Wants to privatise public assets...Bullshit!
    Doesn't believe in climate change and wants to support coal fired power even though it defies the free market...Brilliant..climate change is crap!
    Has a history of racism....Bullshit!
    etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Dutton:

    Wants to create a department of government efficiency, sack public servants, cut services and spend more on private consultants
    Wants to charge students more for uni and tafe
    Doesn't believe in public healthcare
    Blames everything on immigrants
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive
    Wants to withhold funding from schools with "woke agendas"
    Wants to take away citizenship from people convicted of crimes and deport them even if they've lived here their whole life
    Wants to privatise public assets
    Doesn't believe in climate change and wants to support coal fired power even though it defies the free market
    Has a history of racism
    etc....
    Sounds like a copy of Trump's policies. Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)? Could have come up with a new name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR View Post
    ps. hard to find a happy ending RnT session these days for anything less than a 2 pineapples though !

    The way things are going a 69 will soon be called 96 due to the increasing costs of eating out.

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    Personally hoping the LNP gets in . Voted One Nation which have buckleys of getting a win but shows my dissatifaction with the two major parties , at least ON preferences go to the LNP .. ALBO , BOWEN just utter liars and fuckwits especially this Green Energy , wind turbine , solar panel drive and subsidies . $5 tax cut well fuckin yippee ! If Labor do get in , well speaks volumes of the rest out there . Not forgetting the Voice JUST got a NO with just under half voting Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwally View Post
    Dutton:

    Wants to create a department of government efficiency, sack public servants, cut services and spend more on private consultants...Brilliant!
    Wants to charge students more for uni and tafe...shpuld increase International students 25% more
    Doesn't believe in public healthcare...Bullshit !
    Blames everything on immigrants...Bullshit !
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive...Bullshit, Albanese tried to divide us by race with the Voice referendum
    Wants to withhold funding from schools with "woke agendas"...Great idea, force them to learn stuff that gets them in the workforce.
    Wants to take away citizenship from people convicted of crimes and deport them even if they've lived here their whole life...Another brilliant idea, get rid of all the gangs that are causing havoc in our community.
    Wants to privatise public assets...Bullshit!
    Doesn't believe in climate change and wants to support coal fired power even though it defies the free market...Brilliant..climate change is crap!
    Has a history of racism....Bullshit!
    etc....
    Lol excellent counterpoints. Bullshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Lol excellent counterpoints. Bullshit!
    It's the Bullshit campaign!

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    So just looking at what you call bullshit...

    Quote Originally Posted by kingwally View Post
    Dutton:

    Doesn't believe in public healthcare...Bullshit !
    It's true, and true of the LNP in general; their whole ethos is to privatise everything. During his tenure as Health Minister, he oversaw funding cuts to Medicare and advocated for increased reliance on private health insurance. He consistently opposed legislation to reduce taxpayer subsidies for private health insurance. In 2009 and 2012, he voted against the Fairer Private Health Insurance Incentives Bill, which sought to means-test rebates for high-income earners.


    Quote Originally Posted by kingwally View Post
    Blames everything on immigrants...Bullshit !
    It's true. He claimed that migrants were exacerbating Australia’s housing crisis, arguing for reduced immigration quotas to ease pressure on the market. By blaming migrants, he diverted attention from systemic issues like negative gearing and corporate profiteering.

    In 2018, he falsely claimed that Victorians were “too scared to go out to restaurants” due to African gang violence. Crime statistics showed no such spike, and Victorian police condemned the remarks as inflammatory. The comments echoed far-right conspiracy theories and reinforced harmful stereotypes about Black communities.


    Quote Originally Posted by kingwally View Post
    Seizes on anything he can use to be divisive...Bullshit, Albanese tried to divide us by race with the Voice referendum
    It's true. Following the 2017 Sydney plane terror plot, Dutton singled out Lebanese Muslims as a security threat, stating there was an “over-representation” of radicalised individuals within the community, unfairly stigmatising an entire demographic. He also called for a ban on refugees from Gaza, citing unsubstantiated security risks, weaponising the humanitarian crises for political gain.


    Quote Originally Posted by kingwally View Post
    Wants to privatise public assets...Bullshit!
    As above, it's true, and true of the LNP in general; their whole neoliberal ethos is to privatise everything. By opposing reforms to private health insurance rebates, it shows he wants to subsidise the growth of corporate healthcare providers, undermining Medicare’s universality and pushing lower-income Australians toward underfunded public hospitals while wealthier citizens access privatised care.

    His proposed public service reductions would accelerate the erosion of state capacity, creating vacuums to be filled by for-profit contractors. These types of cuts would disproportionately harm vulnerable populations reliant on public housing, healthcare, and welfare programs.


    Quote Originally Posted by kingwally View Post
    Has a history of racism...Bullshit!
    It's true. He proposed fast-tracking visas for white South African farmers, claiming they faced “persecution” under land reform policies, echoing colonial-era narratives of racial superiority, with Afrikaners framed as “civilised” victims deserving rescue and ignoring the systemic violence against Black South Africans.

    His claim that Lebanese Muslims were disproportionately involved in terrorism relied on flawed data and typical stereotypes. By conflating migration with extremism, he perpetuated harmful tropes that marginalise Muslim Australians.



    Calling bullshit on facts that are easily validated just makes you look like an angry, dumb cunt... but then I guess that's Dutton's target voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fted View Post
    So just looking at what you call bullshit...



    It's true, and true of the LNP in general; their whole ethos is to privatise everything. During his tenure as Health Minister, he oversaw funding cuts to Medicare and advocated for increased reliance on private health insurance. He consistently opposed legislation to reduce taxpayer subsidies for private health insurance. In 2009 and 2012, he voted against the Fairer Private Health Insurance Incentives Bill, which sought to means-test rebates for high-income earners.




    It's true. He claimed that migrants were exacerbating Australia’s housing crisis, arguing for reduced immigration quotas to ease pressure on the market. By blaming migrants, he diverted attention from systemic issues like negative gearing and corporate profiteering.

    In 2018, he falsely claimed that Victorians were “too scared to go out to restaurants” due to African gang violence. Crime statistics showed no such spike, and Victorian police condemned the remarks as inflammatory. The comments echoed far-right conspiracy theories and reinforced harmful stereotypes about Black communities.




    It's true. Following the 2017 Sydney plane terror plot, Dutton singled out Lebanese Muslims as a security threat, stating there was an “over-representation” of radicalised individuals within the community, unfairly stigmatising an entire demographic. He also called for a ban on refugees from Gaza, citing unsubstantiated security risks, weaponising the humanitarian crises for political gain.




    As above, it's true, and true of the LNP in general; their whole neoliberal ethos is to privatise everything. By opposing reforms to private health insurance rebates, it shows he wants to subsidise the growth of corporate healthcare providers, undermining Medicare’s universality and pushing lower-income Australians toward underfunded public hospitals while wealthier citizens access privatised care.

    His proposed public service reductions would accelerate the erosion of state capacity, creating vacuums to be filled by for-profit contractors. These types of cuts would disproportionately harm vulnerable populations reliant on public housing, healthcare, and welfare programs.




    It's true. He proposed fast-tracking visas for white South African farmers, claiming they faced “persecution” under land reform policies, echoing colonial-era narratives of racial superiority, with Afrikaners framed as “civilised” victims deserving rescue and ignoring the systemic violence against Black South Africans.

    His claim that Lebanese Muslims were disproportionately involved in terrorism relied on flawed data and typical stereotypes. By conflating migration with extremism, he perpetuated harmful tropes that marginalise Muslim Australians.



    Calling bullshit on facts that are easily validated just makes you look like an angry, dumb cunt... but then I guess that's Dutton's target voter.
    Thanks for calling me an angry dumb cunt, you oh you highly informed sucker of the Albanese cock. Please tell me how much better your life and the community harmony is in your little corner of Shitville after 3 years of this buffoon known now as Albanese (formerly Ellery). I live in the Sydney CBD and have had first hand experience of the community disharmony with the marches since October 7th, I have worked in hospitality and saw the lawlessness of Lebbo gangs from the "religion of peace" with their rampages through various entertainment venues late at night. I regularly visit the Great Barrier Reef as I used to live on the reef years ago and catch up with friends are marine experts who tell me that the reef is thriving, and they have never seen it in better condition. Victorian police have recently passed laws to combat the use of machetes primarily used by African youths...the crime is out of control there. Luckily I own my properties so I am mortgage free but people are really struggling after 12 interest rate increases...I have friends that have had to sell up as they cannot afford them anymore, and as a result have to rent, and have to battle with hundreds of others just to rent a place to live...many in the qeues are recent arrival immigrants. BTW I have not mentioned the Middle Eastern gangs burning down tobacco shops who refuse to stock their brands of cigs. How about the record numbers iof small businesses , and large building companies that have gone bust in the lastv3 years.

    I could go on about Bowen and his power bullshit but I will leave that for another day. Keep living in your Labor Utopia, and suck the Albanese (Ellery) cock.

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    Labor majority into $1.60 with the books. Minority was favourite for a long time.

    Dutton has really fucked this up. Bad decisions and worse judgement. Once he aligned with Fat Gina and Trump he was gone. People aren’t stupid. Regardless of the back peddling away from these influences the damage was done. It didn’t help that the LNP has a very very ordinary pool of talent. People like Clare and Chalmers tore their opposites a new one every time they tried to engage. Interesting to see if Dutton holds his seat but he may wander off into the sunset in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeping Up View Post
    Labor majority into $1.60 with the books. Minority was favourite for a long time.

    Dutton has really fucked this up. Bad decisions and worse judgement. Once he aligned with Fat Gina and Trump he was gone. People aren’t stupid. Regardless of the back peddling away from these influences the damage was done. It didn’t help that the LNP has a very very ordinary pool of talent. People like Clare and Chalmers tore their opposites a new one every time they tried to engage. Interesting to see if Dutton holds his seat but he may wander off into the sunset in any case.
    Did he fuck it up or did he actually want the job? I've been following him through out the campaign and he just gives me the impression that he doesn't really want the job. It feels to me like his true passion in life is to "get ahead", make more money / wealth for himself and his family. Nothing wrong with it, but being a PM doesn't seem to align with this goal, especially when his strategy for reaching this goal involves flipping houses. It is completely at odds with the most pressing problem that the future PM has to attempt to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    Did he fuck it up or did he actually want the job? I've been following him through out the campaign and he just gives me the impression that he doesn't really want the job. It feels to me like his true passion in life is to "get ahead", make more money / wealth for himself and his family. Nothing wrong with it, but being a PM doesn't seem to align with this goal, especially when his strategy for reaching this goal involves flipping houses. It is completely at odds with the most pressing problem that the future PM has to attempt to fix.
    Think he wanted the job with a fiery passion or at least his powerful friends were depending on him. The nuclear ploy was just a furphy to keep his friends mining interests going for 20 or more years. After which it wouldn’t matter as they’d have profited and probably be dead by then. He might very well have time now to spend his money and build stuff to make more.

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