Linq, I have an idea champ, go to Bankstown find a group of young Arab guys and let them know what you think of them. Make sure you call them cowards, bitches, rats and any other provocative words. IF you make it home alive without your face re-arranged or worse please let us know how it went.
What's wrong? Why you coming at me? Too scared to even make a comment anonymously on a punting forum over a 17 year old girl who got raped for 6 hours by 4 arabs. Do you see how ingrained your fear is?
The Stockholm syndrome is evident right now. A 17 year old girl who got raped for 6 hours by 4 arabs and you have said nothing. But Indians? You'd rub your hands eagerly to lambast them. You have proven yourself a coward.
You're so cowardly and fearful you decided to use a neurotic based psychological defence mechanism called displacement onto me. You're not even arguing on coherence anymore. Aren't you ashamed? Still waiting for you to say something anonymously about a group of 4 arabs who raped a 17 year old girl for 6 hours.
Why do battle online? It’s a waste of energy and time. Same thing about protesting. Do the protesters achieve anything except cause traffic jams and inconvenience people working. Let the courts decide their fate and leave it at that.
Focus on making money, enjoying that money and women~if you can be bothered.
So does anyone have the answer yet? How come Arabs get let into brothels but Indians don't? One is known for smacking their missus on a daily basis, the other stink up the whole place.
I love how this thread turned into racists just angry-man texting everyone. Keep it going lads!
Cashed up drug dealer lebs vs tight arse stinky Indians, obvious choice for most.
Linq, I would hope that everyone on this forum who isn't a complete worthless piece of shit (so a good half of us then) would agree that any rape is a horrible, disgusting and traumatic crime, and a gang rape by four people of any race or culture over six hours of an underage girl even more so, horribly so. If the alleged perpetrators are found guilty, I hope our justice system has some backbone and they receive the maximum possible sentences; keeping in mind that three of the four are legally considered children at the time of the alleged offenses I'm sure there'll be lots of legal and societal arguments about that.
Not sure exactly what you're trying to prove here?
That certain members of this forum are racist against Indians? That's well documented and well proven already, don't need to start another thread about it.
That members of this forum are scared to speak out against 'Arabs'? I'd suggest that's patently false, as certain other threads in the past (as well as this one) have brought out the genuinely concerned, the hand-wringers and the flat out racists in regards to Arabs/Muslims/Middle Eastern people as well (there was the community opposition to Ginza expansion thread and the thread where a bunch of people decided to pile on user 'lebman' for example).
That this forum is no place for a thread about the sexual assault of a flight attendant (outside of Sydney)? Agree. This is a fucking punting forum, sure it's the 'off-topic' section, but if you're not going to keep the thread topics at least tangentially related to punting, at least make them funny or interesting. That topic was neither. Nor is this one. It doesn't have a place here any more than the other one does (except the alleged events took place in 'Sydney'? Weak link Linq).
That 'Arabs' are worse than Indians? Anyone with a bit of intelligence should know that entire cultures or ethnicities are not inherently 'good' or 'bad' but they all likely contain 'good' and 'bad' (and fucking crazy) individuals; especially cultures as vast as the Arab culture or 'Indian' (which when used on this forum or in the context of girls who are 'No Indian' usually means anyone from one of several countries in or adjacent to the Indian subcontinent), which contain many different subcultures, countries, religions, traditions etc. I'm not saying that Sydney may not have a 'middle-eastern crime problem' - I don't know the statistics, but reports in the media and anecdotally suggest this may be true. But trying to prove - what? - that there is unjust racism against one group by bringing up 'worse' problems with another group? That's a bizarre line of reasoning. It is true that certain cultures have issues with violence against women; unfortunately that's not limited to 'Arab' culture or 'Indian' culture but also includes 'Australian' culture and probably most of the rest of the world too. No-one (mostly, some exceptions) on this forum is talking about the probably hundreds of incidents of sexual assault, rape, violence against women (and sometimes men*, and probably very often differently gendered people) that are happening in Sydney or Australia or the rest of the world every week perpetrated by white Australians, Chinese, Indians, Arabs, and pretty much every other fucking ethnicity. And nor should they on this forum because it's a fucking punting forum. Go to reddit or the comments section of a news site if you want to talk about this stuff.
That you're for women? Some of your past posts and thread topics do not support this position. And while you keep mentioning how horrible the crime is, I don't actually see you displaying any empathy for the victim, who as you keep reminding everyone is a 17 year old girl, ie a CHILD. You're essentially using this horrible thing that happened to this child to further your own agenda (whatever exactly that is).
(*Well, there was that one thread about the guy who followed his co-worker to his bedroom for reasons not yet explained, after the co-worker confessed he was gay and found him attractive, then allegedly sexually touched him; so some people are talking about it.)
I realise I indulged in some stereotyping there with mention of Lakemba and Auburn; actually these crimes took place (and the alleged criminals live) in Sadleir, Miller and Heckenberg. I don't know if many people on this forum are very familiar with those suburbs (there are at least a few folk from Livo way here I think); I had the misfortune of spending some of my formative years in Sadleir and Miller - they were fucking holes then and I'm sure they're no better now; dropping some bombs there (or better still, nuking them from orbit to be sure) might improve the area. In those days there wasn't a huge middle eastern population there, it was a mix but majority 'white trash'. There was a lot of crime, much of it petty, some of it pretty bad; a lot of stuff maybe not as horrific as this, but some of it not dissimilar (probably worse stuff that I never heard about), in those days it rarely made the headlines. I was lucky enough to get out of there early - it's not an exaggeration to say that a number of people I grew up with who didn't leave early enough ended up in gangs, in jail or dead. I'm not about giving people a free pass on crime because they did it hard growing up or are a product of their environment - it may be a reason, but it's not an excuse. Point is though, if people are going to blame 'Arab culture' for this crime by these guys, consider other factors too - a combination of Australia's immigration laws, approach to crime and crime prevention, the way our cities have evolved so that large collections of particular migrant groups congregate together, often in very low-socio economic areas where crime rates were high before they got there, the design of a lot of Sydney's 20th century outer suburbs which created these shit holes, gang culture, a general and growing disrespect amongst boys and young men (hell, and older men who should know better too) towards women (often due to the influence of fucktards like Andrew Tate) - while ethnic culture may play a part, there's a lot more going on here than just 'they're Arabs'.
Does a 14 year old really understand the consequences of their actions (for themselves and others), think they're going to get caught, easily resist the influence of their peers or 'influencers', or know how to control their impulses? Probably not. Does an 18 or 19 year old? Pretty much equally probably not. Does someone substantially older (like me)? We should, but also quite likely not.
Does a 14 year old understand the rape is morally and legally wrong, that it's a serious crime, that the justice system in Australia works such that crimes are punished, that an act like this deprived the girl of her freedom, safety, dignity and choice? They SHOULD understand that, and in my opinion they should be punished accordingly for a crime like this (if found guilty). Luckily I'm not in charge of their defense, prosecution or possible sentencing (and yes - give kids the vote. Make them - and adults, most of whom don't know how the fuck our political system works - study the Australian political system, pass a test, and let them vote from age 14 or whatever other arbitrary age below 18 we collectively decide to set for the right to vote and the age of criminal responsibility).
But what the fuck do I know anyway? I'm not a lawyer, a lawmaker, or a child psychologist. I'm just some fuckwit on an internet forum about PAYING WOMEN FOR SEX. All of us are, but we think our 2 cents on these things are worth shit??
Haha, took me long enough to figure it out, Linq wasn't trying to prove anything, he's not sane enough for that (but he still outsmarted me since I engaged and spent time thinking about and typing out this bullshit instead of thinking and typing about paying women for sex), he just wanted to stir shit. Mission success Linq.
Honestly this isn't an age related thing. If you're tricking women into your car, and then raping them, and calling your friends to also rape them. That's not, "oh i didn't know how bad it was" tier stuff. it's not like they were drunk kids fooling around and he tried to escalate sex a bit fast. That might be "well your young, and that isn't how you do it, this shows how serious it can be, you're in court. But wel'l try you as a kid because you are one.
This isn't that.
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If you're luring women into cars and getting your friends to take turns raping her at 16 years of age. That's a write off. You don't get a pass. Throw the kid off a mountain and start again because its' not like a cutoff age. It's a gradient and it's well below whats expected in terms of morality for that age.
Like if you're a particularly mean spirited 8 year old, and you and your friends got a girl and decided to 'rape' her at that age. That's maybe, try as a kid stuff. You didn't know what your were doing.
By the time you and her a driving. It's definitely try as an adult stuff.