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Reply With QuoteI'm not a wordsmith and at times ramble but hope this gives some of you something to ponder, others to have a laugh and maybe some to shout out 'fucking Simp'. Whatever it is keep adding to the forum for our mutual benefit.
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It's almost like buying 'pre loved' vehicles on eBay or marketplace
There's a range in age, range of models, some sleek fine curves others robust 4x4, some having additional extras, each varies in how well they've been cared for and some have after market add ons.
Buyers view specs, curves, ruggedness, colour preference, size of add ons etc whichever appeal to them and reviews the asking price.
Balancing all these factors they deem important - some are must haves, some are 'would be nice' and other are 'whatever'
Then they check their bank account / wallet for their discretionary spending balance.
After some deliberation of what they want and can afford they generally book a time slot in the chosen shop and go punting.
New buyers may not see red flags experienced ones do. Some may be blinded by enticing 'after market addons'. Some may be working through a 'wish list' whilst others have unique personal requirements
Shop prices vary marginally so it's the 'negotiated extras' which can make or break the perception of worth / value for money.
Some categorize each extra and attribute a set price however as many will attribute there are BJs and there are BLOW JOBS !!! So to say a BJ will be worth $50 is all down to whether or not you have been lucky enough to know the difference.
Then there's the girl.
First time visit is often a lottery for both parties so $50 might seem a rip off, hold promises or make you book your next visit as you leave.
Some girls despite being repeat customers have their good days (just had their 3 days off / holiday) and not so good days for health reasons (working when sick but still have to pay Uni fees and bills) or watching Netflix until 05.30 am so half asleep. (Jolie - 2 Pope).
Some girls take one look at you and increase their prices to put you off or 'if I'm going to have to do xyz to you you're bloody well paying for it' - csn you blame them !!!
Then there are those 'good ones' who for whatever reason appear to be positive engaging fun and deliver 99% of the time. Enjoy this whilst it lasts because often you don't realise just how good until it's gone.
Mamasans & Papasans have their role in running a tight ship - those ones who listen and value your repeat business. They very occasionally allow a gem to manage her own pricing as they smile knowing she'll be booked out with little effort to them and they get their cut. They also weed out the rude, unreliable, non service orientated ladies quickly.
Good shops IMO tend to have a stable core of girls for longer periods with rotating additions hoping to provide reliability plus refreshing options for regular punters.
However for me personally it's the connection you make with the ML (yet to try WLs) which makes the core difference in one's perception of how much value you feel your $$$$$ has.
I've had cheap $$$$ which I've felt ripped off with - motionless star fish, clock watchers, even one handed massage whilst one handed texting (V Ivy ex SP) 10/10 for multi tasking, then those who agree on extras but think 30 sec BJ constitutes an extra delivered - NOT and refund duly obtained after heated discussion.
I had mid range / stock standard $$$$$$ where it's been cordial on first visit both parties appear to have enjoyed and repeat visits either fizzle after a few visits.
Some you refine and learn what each other enjoys so mutually pleasurable and beneficial.
Some girls give that vibe which makes you want to try a full menu but it's not on offer. So you either say 'thank you' but walk, accept as a one off or accept with the hope repeat visits will open more options.
One ML included a BBBJ from the third visit onwards at no extra cost because she said she felt she was actually being valued by earlier $$$ for less extras.
Some are fantastic for a while but then lethargy and complacency creep in with the expectation of fewer extras (classic bbbj to CBJ) and diminished enthusiasm but expect same $$$$.
Then there are the 'very good' ones who walk in smiling, put their bags down and come up close to discuss what you want, what they are prepared to offer in this session and $$. They're open and usually fair - maybe a bit of friendly bargaining but relatively quickly you come to an agreement and get going.
Then there are the 'unicorns' and we each have our own criteria and reasons but whatever it is there are those girls who just tick 99% / every box you could hope for.
You can click on first visit or build up over time. They could do something that feels totally different to all the others, be great actors but they make you feel good. Be extra naughty in what they do, how they speak to you, how they look at you. (I have one regular who wouldn't be classified as a looker & is early 30's but she does, says and looks at you like no other and her intensity is pretty much unmatched (for me).
However there are ones who stand leagues above the others. For me, I still remember clearly the first moment she walked into the room and I thought the way she looked, walked, held herself, smiled, chatted so chill & friendly and was passionate from visit one.
Over the next 12 months we had fortnightly sessions with everything on the menu except FS reason apparently 'too big' (yes sure !!!!) but she was slim so I was willing to accept as the sessions were amazing.
Then one day she told me she was returning home in 4 weeks for good and she requested we try FS.
All previous session were at market rates but now she asked for double $$$ on top of shop, she was trying to maximise her final weeks to save money for her prospective business back home - fair enough was my decision.
Did I hesitate ? 'fuck no' and this is the long winded way I've got to my point.
PAY WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT FOR YOU WITH THAT ML AT THAT MOMENT.
I agree and understand as a 'norm' to help fellow punters manage costs but if you find your unicorn ..... your call.
Do regret for a second paying double the rate - hell no and I would do it again in a millisecond.
Originally Posted by jaquedm1307
