Ginza AR (Annual Report 2023)..who's your MMA (Most Memorable Asian)

[ironmonk]

Sorry mate i still dont get the issue.... the point u mentioned about PSE for example how is that any different to an AR?

Girl X might get a score of 9+ for PSE but her profile has no mention of PSE so its just a case of YMMV. End of the day this is down to the character and apptitude of the punter if the punter like famous ED choses to ignore profile description and ARs and acts like a dick you cant stop that human behaviour and its certainly not the flaw or loop hole of the tool.

I would presume punters that see ARs/Scorecards be it Ironmonk website or an AR here or other website would vet that against girls profile ....

Agreed, in fact an AR is worse as it can send wrong expectation vs any number on a scoreboard ever will. If he trusts punters to read his AR as YMMV, he can trust them to read a number the same way.

And lmao i'd be amazed if someone rocked up just based off a radar hexagon chart and demanded full PSE experience from a girl because a punter list on the internet said PSE: 8.5/10 (no words, just numbers)

[chizuru]

What manipulation are you hinting at or alluding too?

If I enter a score of 1/10 for any category, it should be accepted that way. Thats how a score works... If the system manipulates your score at entry how is it true?
It's like giving a score after your horrible session to reception. You say 5 and they reply with 10 and you can't correct it?

[ironmonk]

If I enter a score of 1/10 for any category, it should be accepted that way. Thats how a score works... If the system manipulates your score at entry how is it true?
It's like giving a score after your horrible session to reception. You say 5 and they reply with 10 and you can't correct it?

if i rate mio 1/10, my score is still MY score. A terrible session is a terrible session. But why should my bad score become the new public consensus?

[chizuru]

So clearly I was correct. thanks mate. Actually incredible.

You can leave the quote marks there, no need to remove them

[neveragain]

I can see both sides of the coin. Chizuru wants genuine punters to be able to give ratings based off their own opinions but ironmonk is conscious of girls getting sabotaged with multiple fake ratings by scorned punters or rival girls at the same shop who might have it in for the girl. If only there was a way to make it invite only to the genuine punters

[PJD]

And lmao i'd be amazed if someone rocked up just based off a radar hexagon chart and demanded full PSE experience from a girl because a punter list on the internet said PSE: 8.5/10 (no words, just numbers)

I think you might think too much of the general public in regards to this unfortunately...

[blidbla86]

All this Jessie talk this week I went and saw her again yesterday, she's so great
Will def be back again soon

[Jack-Jack]

If I enter a score of 1/10 for any category, it should be accepted that way. Thats how a score works... If the system manipulates your score at entry how is it true?
It's like giving a score after your horrible session to reception. You say 5 and they reply with 10 and you can't correct it?

So clearly I was correct. thanks mate. Actually incredible.

You can leave the quote marks there, no need to remove them

Still trying to follow/understand the logic. So are you saying that you cannot enter a score of 1/10? By default the system blocks a score of 1 or 0 out of 10?

OR you cannot enter a score of 1/10 if you're anonymous user/your score is not backed by an AR

The latter would be more appropriate to vet randoms and protect the girls if thats what ur intention is no?

[Jack-Jack]

All this Jessie talk this week I went and saw her again yesterday, she's so great
Will def be back again soon

Would you ever consider her in a double? imagine that Jessie with one of her angels and talking sexy to them in korean kinda like Mio giving instructions in Jap when she does group sessions with her girls haha

[ironmonk]

Still trying to follow/understand the logic. So are you saying that you cannot enter a score of 1/10? By default the system blocks a score of 1 or 0 out of 10?

OR you cannot enter a score of 1/10 if you're anonymous user/your score is not backed by an AR

The latter would be more appropriate to vet randoms and protect the girls if thats what ur intention is no?

Chiz is just upset his 1/10 scores can't tank a girl's public rating on the leaderboard that only has a low amount of votes (weak signal).

If other punter agree, then yeah the girl will have overall lower ratings as more votes (hopefully real and sincere ones) from punters come in.

[blidbla86]

Would you ever consider her in a double? imagine that Jessie with one of her angels and talking sexy to them in korean kinda like Mio giving instructions in Jap when she does group sessions with her girls haha

Haha I've never had a double in my life actually, hard to imagine what that double would be like since Jessie is already on her own level
I'm actually gonna be organizing my first double experience very soon ..

[chizuru]

Still trying to follow/understand the logic. So are you saying that you cannot enter a score of 1/10? By default the system blocks a score of 1 or 0 out of 10?

I go to for example 'Tomiko' enter a PSE score of '1/10' based on my own experience, click save and it changes to 4 rather than 1?
I genuinely have no simpler way to explain this to you. Go and see for yourself

Chiz is just upset his 1/10 scores can't tank a girl's public rating on the leaderboard that only has a low amount of votes (weak signal).

If other punter agree, then yeah the girl will have overall lower ratings as more votes (hopefully real and sincere ones) from punters come in.

Any chance you can reply to my original question at least or?....

[ironmonk]

Sigh...do you even use the app or have an account? Or are you just trying to discredit me

My original rating for Rum - my score looks = 7.5
https://imgur.com/Ex4QasJ -> my score
https://imgur.com/edwvX9I -> baseline

I change my score to looks = 1
https://imgur.com/LICtUrA -> new score
https://imgur.com/JFW3uqK -> new baseline

My new personal rating:
https://imgur.com/uu2rUva

Go and see for yourself? Peace.
https://fullybooked.wtf/app#

[ironmonk]

Or maybe i'm misunderstanding you,

yes if you vote as an anon, you can't edit your scores and your vote has lower weight, that is correct.

If it bugs you that much, simply make an account (if you haven't already) to edit and save your scores...or idk, build your own leaderboard?

[neveragain]

Or maybe i'm misunderstanding you,

yes if you vote as an anon, you can't edit your scores and your vote has lower weight, that is correct.

If it bugs you that much, simply make an account (if you haven't already) to edit and save your scores...or idk, build your own leaderboard?

Wait cunts can vote if they don’t even have an account? Here I was suggesting invite only and it’s not even account only haha

[chizuru]

Sigh...do you even use the app or have an account? Or are you just trying to discredit me

Yes I use the app... I said that yesterday... and a week ago when you messaged me in a DM mate.
I even gave you props, so why the hostility when I'm just trying to ask a question
I answered your question so why not do the same?

Here you go, as I explained Tomiko
My rating before saving > https://imgur.com/shslc9Q
My rating after saving > https://imgur.com/yJ0Eeil
Baseline > https://imgur.com/MoculUy

Score as per ratings page says 4? > https://imgur.com/lb4IudP
Where does the 1 go? bug?
It worked for you with Rum but not for me? Exact same thing happens with Mayu who has more community votes..
Is it something to do with this?

Whats considered a 'trusted OG?' a manual change you need to make?

[ironmonk]

Wait cunts can vote if they don’t even have an account? Here I was suggesting invite only and it’s not even account only haha

While that was my initial intention, by nature of account only to vote means there are far fewer submissions and the data is really thin. Making an account = more friction. And majority of people browse pictures or roster than actively vote and participate, which is fine. people don't have to sign up if they don't want to.

[ironmonk]

Yes I use the app... I said that yesterday... and a week ago when you messaged me in a DM mate.
I even gave you props, so why the hostility when I'm just trying to ask a question
I answered your question so why not do the same?

Here you go, as I explained Tomiko
My rating before saving > https://imgur.com/shslc9Q
My rating after saving > https://imgur.com/yJ0Eeil
Baseline > https://imgur.com/MoculUy

Score as per ratings page says 4? > https://imgur.com/lb4IudP
Where does the 1 go? bug?
It worked for you with Rum but not for me? Exact same thing happens with Mayu who has more community votes..
Is it something to do with this?

i'll look into it bro, but I find it hard to believe your public comments are in good faith, considering you didn't DM me about leaderboard manipulation a single time...(and p.s you never mentioned that)

Yes trusted OG is true, but it's for sure not me. Some peoples opinion matter more than others, the same way on here an AR by 10 year old member is celebrated, but a new account AR is held under more scrutiny.

[chizuru]

i'll look into it bro, but I find it hard to believe your public comments are in good faith, considering you didn't DM me about leaderboard manipulation a single time...(and p.s you never mentioned that)

Yes trusted OG is true, but it's for sure not me. Some peoples opinion matter more than others, the same way on here an AR by 10 year old member is celebrated, but a new account AR is held under more scrutiny.

Aren't in good faith? I literally gave you props and said the leader board is a good function however my concern was data manipulation or misuse.

Also I did mention it TYVM. You of all people know you have to have an account to get notifications...

Just because I've created a competing platform doesn't mean I'm going to stop using what I'm already using...

[ironmonk]

Aren't in good faith? I literally gave you props and said the leader board is a good function however my concern was data manipulation or misuse.

Also I did mention it TYVM. You of all people know you have to have an account to get notifications...

Just because I've created a competing platform doesn't mean I'm going to stop using what I'm already using...

Actually @chizuru you are right, my admin/edit mode bypassed everything completely for the Rum example, just how the edit tools work.


Your 1/10 scores aren't a bug though, that's strictly how it's designed. I stand by everything originally said.Your PSE score is there, just softened. And if others agree with your low score, it moves down.

You can call it manipulation, but the only alternative is accept the raw 1/10 scores...which of course I can't do, surely you can understand why. I guess it IS creator manipulation...to prevent real instance of manipulation?