Sensational Transformational Budget from Joe Hockey, well done Joe........

[dohdoe]

I don't believe 2gb has as much influence as Alan Jones wants us to believe. He's probably able to stay on the air because he probably owns a stake in 2gb.

Anyways rumour has it that he is gay. Just sayin...

[Wayne]

I agree with you. Those stupid people using their 'facts' and so called scientific evidence to try and decide what's best for everybody. I can feel the terrorism right there.

No one with any sense of reason would be using that.

I use rhetoric and my own ideas to judge what is best. And you're right, scientists should have no place in society to make decisions based on their so called 'evidence' bs. As if that's based on anything.

um, err, are you using a computer? Who developed the mathematics behind the programming that runs the software? Who experimented, recorded and developed the metallurgy that made the hardware? Some of this science was developed 3,000 years ago - that's hard long the principles of theorising, experimenting and developing processes take? Do you fly in airplanes? Do you watch television? Do you take medicines when you are ill? Do you eat food bought in a supermarket?

Oh right, scientists should have no place in our society. Here is an idea: let's put Tony Abbott's church back in charge of things. They did a sterling job back before they were sidelined, burning scientists who dared argue that the earth is not flat. Good one mate.

[uglyphil]

I don't believe 2gb has as much influence as Alan Jones wants us to believe. He's probably able to stay on the air because he probably owns a stake in 2gb.

Anyways rumour has it that he is gay. Just sayin...

He stays because he speaks to his audience which is old old old rusted on righties... And he owns a stake in the station

As to him being gay, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

He is an asshole who peddles rumours, insults, half-truths, selected titbits and outright lies. These are then spread to the wider community by the lazy hacks that we call journalists nowadays. And he is allowed to do so with absolute abandon by his bosses and the regulator. That is what makes him dangerous, not that he is gay. His sexual orientation is totally beside the point.

[uglyphil]

um, err, are you using a computer? Who developed the mathematics behind the programming that runs the software? Who experimented, recorded and developed the metallurgy that made the hardware? Some of this science was developed 3,000 years ago - that's hard long the principles of theorising, experimenting and developing processes take? Do you fly in airplanes? Do you watch television? Do you take medicines when you are ill? Do you eat food bought in a supermarket?

Oh right, scientists should have no place in our society. Here is an idea: let's put Tony Abbott's church back in charge of things. They did a sterling job back before they were sidelined, burning scientists who dared argue that the earth is not flat. Good one mate.

Ummmm... I actually read dohdoe's post as sarcasm?

Perhaps I was wrong.

[Wayne]

Ummmm... I actually read dohdoe's post as sarcasm?

Perhaps I was wrong.

oh sorry, I can be really dim sometimes. It is just that there is so much ill-informed stuff written here that I just reacted. Should just keep out of it.

[wilisno]

Ummmm... I actually read dohdoe's post as sarcasm?

Perhaps I was wrong.

I believe it's sarcasm !

[uglyphil]

oh sorry, I can be really dim sometimes. It is just that there is so much ill-informed stuff written here that I just reacted. Should just keep out of it.

Not at all Wayne, there is no emotion in type, so it can be really difficult to tell and mistakes will be made. Who knows, as I already said, I could be wrong myself

[EatmyhairyassholeBitch]

Chinese State Owned Enterpises have already bought significant parts of Australia's economic assets, most recently the Newcastle / Hunter docks for a couple of billion dollars. (It was on the news recently - NSW Govt selling off assets). Other Chinese companies that claim they are not SOEs almost certainly are, and could very quickly be nationlised by CCP if necessary. As more and more economic assets are sold, Australia's economy will continue to become more command based and centralised, like China - the Asianisation of Australia.

It is beyond question that Australia's current social policy, political and economic system is based on its European western democratic heritage. Asianisation and muti-culturalism (particularly Asianisation) is transforming Australia in every way, including its social democratic heritage. As the culture changes, so is the economy and social policy expectations, in order to fit better within the Asia-Pacific region. And it's happening at an ever increasing rate. This is irrefutable - look around and you will see.

You need to quote your 'significant parts of Australian economic assets' you are talking about rather that broad, blue style fanciful statements on Chinese investment.

As of 2011 investment in Australian projects in that year China as 3.5% of the total with USA, UK, Japan, Germany far far in front of Chinese investment.

This is irrefutable - look around and you will see.

[EatmyhairyassholeBitch]

And here is 2013 direct from AusTrade website.

http://www.austrade.gov.au/Images/Us...tion1_pg14.jpg

[dohdoe]

As to him being gay, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

He is an asshole who peddles rumours, insults, half-truths, selected titbits and outright lies.
...

His sexual orientation is totally beside the point.

Oh him being potentially gay means everything...to his audience. It needs to be answered!!! Much like how Julia was a woman and why doesn't she have kids!!!

[SmilingGiraffe]

You need to quote your 'significant parts of Australian economic assets' you are talking about rather that broad, blue style fanciful statements on Chinese investment.

As of 2011 investment in Australian projects in that year China as 3.5% of the total with USA, UK, Japan, Germany far far in front of Chinese investment.

This is irrefutable - look around and you will see.

My previous post clearly states the very recent acquisition of Newcastle/Hunter docks by Chinese State Owned Enterprise for about $2Billion.
That's a hard cold fact, nothing fanciful about that statement - it was widely reported on national news and is obviously verifiable.
And not so very long ago (2years) the Chinese SOEs were trying to get involved with the national broadband / communications infrastructure
project - the Huawei company was passed over for any significant contracts on the project, due to their links with the CCP. They tried to make
a stink about it, but it was clearly the right decision. The idea that you would have an asian foreign company (with CCP connections) get involved
with your country's communications infrastructure is totally ridiculous. Your other stats are well-dated by now, and were questionable in their day.

[dohdoe]

Here is an idea: let's put Tony Abbott's church back in charge of things.

He did. Csiro gets 100m funding cut because science is so overrated. I'm not going to get into arguments like them developing wifi through their astronomy program.

National school chaplaincy program gets another 200m because chaplains do a better job than horrible lefty secular based professional councillors. Councilors and their 'education' and the whole evidence based 'research'. Whatever!! I'd rather my kids be taken care of by Church priests.

[uglyphil]

See Wayne?

Sarcasm

[waynekerr]

Who would have thought that a thread started as a shit-stir by some alleged dickhead troll would
have so much interest? Feelings are running high on this issue, and not only on this forum. I'm
changing tack slightly, have a look at this -

This is interesting, it might make you chuckle, it might bring a tear to your eye.

“The age of entitlement is over.”

Says our government through the treasurer Sloppy Joe. Well yes if you are poor, if you are
disabled.....

Check the link, it's the Parliament House Dining Room Menu.

Right wing philosophy, “If you don't have a seat at the table, you are on the menu.”

WayneK.

[EatmyhairyassholeBitch]

My previous post clearly states the very recent acquisition of Newcastle/Hunter docks by Chinese State Owned Enterprise for about $2Billion.
That's a hard cold fact, nothing fanciful about that statement - it was widely reported on national news and is obviously verifiable.
And not so very long ago (2years) the Chinese SOEs were trying to get involved with the national broadband / communications infrastructure
project - the Huawei company was passed over for any significant contracts on the project, due to their links with the CCP. They tried to make
a stink about it, but it was clearly the right decision. The idea that you would have an asian foreign company (with CCP connections) get involved
with your country's communications infrastructure is totally ridiculous. Your other stats are well-dated by now, and were questionable in their day.

You state that there is 'significant investment' which is 'hard cold facts' INCORRECT!

Get off the Chinese bashing as you clearly have little knowledge of anything.

[JC1]

This is a democracy, everyone is entitled to his own view. I am more interested in the future. I think the only honorable thing for Abbott to do now is to tough it out, and if necessary call an early DD election and let the people decide. If he backs down, he is damaged goods, only delaying his execution till next election.

[uglyphil]

Who would have thought that a thread started as a shit-stir by some alleged dickhead troll would
have so much interest? Feelings are running high on this issue, and not only on this forum. I'm
changing tack slightly, have a look at this -

This is interesting, it might make you chuckle, it might bring a tear to your eye.

“The age of entitlement is over.”

Says our government through the treasurer Sloppy Joe. Well yes if you are poor, if you are
disabled.....

Check the link, it's the Parliament House Dining Room Menu.

Right wing philosophy, “If you don't have a seat at the table, you are on the menu.”

WayneK.

Minimum 20 for the buffet???

Well that is Joe and Clive taken care of

[uglyphil]

This is a democracy, everyone is entitled to his own view. I am more interested in the future. I think the only honorable thing for Abbott to do now is to tough it out, and if necessary call an early DD election and let the people decide. If he backs down, he is damaged goods, only delaying his execution till next election.

He won't. He most certainly does not have the balls for that.

He will wait for the senate to do the heavy lifting for him. This will enable him to go to his rich bosses and say that he tried but the poor meanie ol' senate wouldn't let him play with his ball(s).

[SmilingGiraffe]

He did. Csiro gets 100m funding cut because science is so overrated. I'm not going to get into arguments like them developing wifi through their astronomy program.

National school chaplaincy program gets another 200m because chaplains do a better job than horrible lefty secular based professional councillors. Councilors and their 'education' and the whole evidence based 'research'. Whatever!! I'd rather my kids be taken care of by Church priests.

It has become very "trendy" for the lefty media ideologues to badger, hector and ridicule anyone with a traditonal Christian view.
They don't ridicule the muslims too much, they are scared to do that for various reasons. And they don't ridicule the Hindus.
And they certainly don't ridicule the Jewish faith. Modern Australia was very largely created by people with traditional christian
values and ethics. Post-European Australia is trying to rapidly distance itself from the institutions and traditions that are its heritage.
Essentially, the global media dictatorship is subverting traditonal western democratic society: dividing it with excessive multi-culturalism,
breaking it down by erasing the family unit and revising gender roles, and then promoting any and all diverse ethnic groups of
non-european heritage. As modern Australia becomes less european and more Asian/multi-cultural, market expectations of social policy
and associated welfare services are rapidly changing, ie. reducing. The values & ethics of Australia's future social policy are becoming more
in line with those prevalent in the wider Asia-Pacific region. Australia is becoming an Asian country, in the Asian region, of the Asian century.
There will be many varied problems along the road of transition - the recent budget has concentrated the national psyche on these changing
times.

[dohdoe]

This is interesting, it might make you chuckle, it might bring a tear to your eye.

“The age of entitlement is over.”

All hail the new age!!

What once was a merely a dream, the libertarian mastabatory fantasy, has finally arrived