ML's can't have boyfriends...?

[ARking]

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

not even kidding when i say 80% of the mls ive seen have an iphone 6 or newer

[foxybabe]

I respect the girls for what they do for a living

Its is not an easy or even disgusting job, I agree.

But do the girls have a choice?

Yes, they always have a choice just like us punters.
They can leave Australia, or work in a Cafe or restaurant
Almost all of the MLs I know,they also buy expensive stuff, they travel and they dine out a lot, which they could have saved for their tuition fees but they also want to a good lifestyle in Australia, so they 'HAVE' to be a ML/WL

Not saying we should look down on them, but it is a fact that most MLs keep doing this job because it is an easy money while she could found a job somewhere else, which might compromise her current lifestyle

If the girl has a boyfriend/husband, that is way worse..

Just my 2 cents

[Littlewonder]

When I was younger I didn't even know what a wl or ml was I had heard of a prostitute!

I used to think how could anyone do that job, and I would hate it if my wife or girlfriend did work as a ml or wl.

As i got older I appreciate that there is a need for the services of a wl and ml.

I still think it is very hard to have a wl or ml as a girl friend and almost impossible to have as a wife.

Having said that I had an affair with a wl for 10 years.

These days I see different ladies so I dont get too keen on one lady but the important thing is they are human beings they all I am sure would love to be loved and love someone.

Thing is these days I am old and the girl I like are all young, well if your 20 something probably not young but to me young so how can I have anything with these girls, I have a favourite at the moment unfortunately she doesn't speak any English so that make it tough.

Yes I could love a working lady there are plenty of lovely wl out there and most of them work really hard, for them or the ones I see these days dont speak much English that makes it hard for them to earn a dollar in Australia.

I have a great respect for wl and ml they have a difficult job and most of them do it very well.

I am old fashioned and still think that its the mans job to look after his woman and provide for her if he can do that and she doesn't have to work thats got to be the best result for a relationship with a wl.

As a male you need to think I am not better than her, she has done what she has had to do to survive treat her right and move on an build your relationship and life with her if you get the chance.

[ARking]

Her name was Lonnie, she went to Junior High with me
I said, "Why you up in there dancing for cash?
I guess a whole lots changed since I seen you last"
She said
What would you do if your son was at home
Crying all alone
On the bedroom floor
Cause he's hungry and the only way to feed him is to
Sleep with a man for a little bit of money?
And his daddy's gone, somewhere smokin' rock now
In and out of lock down
I ain't got a job now
So for you this is just a good time
But for me this is what I call life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lahc...youtu.be&t=28s

[rooter]

Pay. Fuck. Leave.
That's the unholy trinity of punting and as long as you follow it you will have an awesome time again and again and again.
And you will sleep like a baby every night and wake up ready to eat the world every morning.
The girls are your girlfriend for one hour.
In that brief time you have together treat her like a precious princess, treat her like she is your sweet darling girlfriend, treat her like she is the only girl in the known universe, because for that brief hour she is.
Laugh, kiss, hug, talk, fuck, suck, lick, enjoy.
And when it's over, well it's over.
You both move on - she goes on to the next customer - you go on to the next girl.
That's punting. It's beautiful. It's sublime. It's sacred. It's perfect.
Celebrate it. Don't contaminate, complicate, pollute, or adulterate it.

[Nejums]

Catching feelings for WLs/MLs is a no no. I mean, mighty tempting to try and "conquer" one, but definitely not worth the headache.

If I was single and some how got to hooking up with an ML/WL, I'd ask her to quit too. I wouldn't get into the petty shit like how many men she's been with, but certainly not still being active in that profession. And as respect for her, I'd obviously have to quit punting too. Failure for either party to comply will only grow animosity. Toxic shit for any relationship.

But yes, general rule for the noobies, punting and personal life are two separate entities.

[CunningLinguist]

This is the dilemma for MLs and WLs.
Guys they meet as customers they don't trust as a boyfriend.

Its a bit ironic they they think it is ok for themselves to work as a ML/WL but then not to trust one of their customers as a boyfriend ...

[dufour]

Its a bit ironic they they think it is ok for themselves to work as a ML/WL but then not to trust one of their customers as a boyfriend ...

Both statements are generalisations and not universally true

[Miyamoto]

This is an interesting topic and raises two very different questions for me. 1) would I want my gf to work as a ml/wl. To me I can think of several reasons why my answer is no, and babycat none of them reflect badly on the girl. They are around not trusting the men (would they pressure her to break her boundaries, would they treat her badly)that would see her, around the pressure for sexual performance placed on men and the male ego (are a lot of the men bigger, better than me etc). The second question which seems similar but is different is, could I have a ml/wl as a gf. I think many who would answer no to the first question would answer yes to the second. Though in most cases, and probably mine too, it would come to a point in the relationship when you would want the girl to quit, for reasons in 1).

[cuteguy]

You would be surprised how many MLs actually do have boyfriends. During some sessions, some MLs were upfront and revealed being in a relationship. Some also stated that they weren't prepared to do extras because this would be betraying their boyfriend's trust. On the other hand, there are those who definitely keep it a secret from their boyfriends or even husbands that they work as MLs. I wonder how long they can keep it as a secret. What if the boyfriend or husband questions his girl what she does or sees her walking into a shop, what will she say to him? Honey, I'm getting a massage or working as a waitress in a restaurant.

[CunningLinguist]

Reminds me of the time I massaged a ML recently, had my hands all over and was sucking her tits and licking her clit, then she stopped me from licking her clit and said she didn't want to cum as it would betray her boyfirend ....

[cuteguy]

Reminds me of the time I massaged a ML recently, had my hands all over and was sucking her tits and licking her clit, then she stopped me from licking her clit and said she didn't want to cum as it would betray her boyfirend ....

Just recently I came across a Thai ML who stated that she had a boyfriend back in Thailand and therefore she couldn't do any extras. She wanted to remain faithful to him. What's the probability that her boyfriend was with other girls?

We all know long distance relationships generally don't last.

[Crusader]

This topic hurts my brain ..

Especially the thought of my Mrs offering up her body to other men.
Being the hypocritical male that I am, I would not bat an eyelid if she were to do that with other females.

This whole industry has is the product of men's needs.
Maybe the men are the issue here?

[CunningLinguist]

Yes men are the issue, all types of men including wo men ...

[cuteguy]

Yes men are the issue, all types of men including wo men ...

Blame the man again. It was Eve who tempted Adam with the apple not the other way round. Lol

[cmk76]

Designer shoes and handbags and drug addiction = girls working in sex industry.
Besides that some of these girls want to send money home to support family.
You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...

[DemonHarry]

You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

Thanks mate!
But, it all comes down to the quality/honesty of communication between two people, self awareness about what you will and won't accept (not what you 'think' you'll accept or not accept - you can only get this from living a full life), clearly letting the other person know your boundaries and unconditionally accepting their boundaries (not trying to get them to change theirs to make yourself feel better), each person needing to know what the other needs to inoculate/soothe against jealousy /suspicion, and uncompromising commitment to respecting these boundaries, communicating whenever you start to feel disconnected and giving what the other truly needs to trust you.... It's what's needed to make any relationship work, not just for the ML/punter.

[tontnam]

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

We all have choices, and rightly or wrongly some choices come with consequences. That's just how things work.

WL/ML have choices just like punters do.

Agreed. In the beginning of my entry into this (out of desperate loneliness and having social awkwardness which I am dealing with ) I used to have an enormous sympathy for most of these ladies. But in recent times I realised that it's best to be neutral on this. Upon calculation there is a lot of cash being earned in a certain range and this amount is far more than neccessary for fees and living. A large percentage of punters that frequent such places are not earning nearly as much as even an ML. The government is rather stupid -- the money Is merely being circulated within of this country instead to pay fees -- there is no export of education so to speak to bring foreign dollars in here. As for the ML's/WL's I think greed takes over after a few months for the successful ones. It affects some , but yes eventually there are many girls working for 20 per hour in ordinary jobs still managing to pay for their time or experience into oz. It is quite sad in either case. Because on both sides theirs an erosion of something (punter and W/ML).

[tontnam]

Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...

Truth. At what point would a girl quit. People do go through career change 3 times they say. And it's inevitable in this field that value declines with age. Difference between ginza rate and 533 rate is an example. And I am sure that after a number of years Jacking off guys all day is not doing the girls brain matter any good nor aiding in development of ideas on how to get out of this mediocre role. And it seems like they could become slave to themselves and spend all this money on addictions --my frequency of this reduced dramatically when I realised that some form of addiction was used to keep these girls going after being fucked by 10 to 15 guys a day. That is a soul sapping activity.

[Babycat]

But after all, it's hard for a ml having boyfriend, right?