Lonely Heart's take on Tiffany at Snow Lotus, third time lucky?? Well Yes and No....

[Travelmate]

All this started (and many of our brothers) started in the days in Burwood 1 (Now 143 Marrickville), Burwood 8 (gone), Burwood 2 (Now 501) and Alice's (Ashfiels). It was $45 all included. Extra is like $20-$30 can get clothers off or even BJ, and sure $50 can get FS 80% of the time. Then Burwood got clean up and while Burwood 2 resurface at Newtown as 501, this tradition has been retain since then. ie HJ included. You will not believe at a point 501 is where every girl want to go and work cos it is so busy.

This is the most important part and it was true!!
But non-exist anymore, what a pity!

[AHLUNGOR]

Oh just to add. Any massage shop that is armed with a set of girls like what Vicky has now, plus a writter for the shop and a few supporter in the forum will be able to rise up like SL. Remember Sharky and other brothers contribution to the 501 thread while there was a set of star in 501 the effect is very similar.

With the current line up of 501, I am sure I can write them up to their glory days again with a few sampling session. I just do not want to loose the neutral status thats all.

The question you really should ask is can the shop last once this honey moon period is gone and with a few stars leaving the shop. Will SL just fall back to another rip off city shop without talent. You think 501 is quiet now?? Not really. Just before was exceptional and now just return to normal and they are still doing well.

So finally, this is what that was all about!!

[lonely heart]

What do you mean???

[lengjai]

Sorry Alunghor, I didn't get it either!

[lonely heart]

I think he is trying to say I stir up all this to show what I can do for a shop in this forum. And when David saw this he will give me freebie and write for 501. Obviously he has not seen what I wrote in the Newtown thread today. It will be even more interesting if he saw what I write about my friend’s shop before (that bloody shit hole, another overpriced city rip off)……….

Sorry if I am wrong

[smd]

it's not about the price
it's just i find the girls aren't my cup of tea
the best looking so far i've seen cici (face+body) won't even make it in golden flower line up
they are not typical young, slim & tall girls

one girl, i can't even stand her face & didn't cum

and don't give me that "everyone is entitled to his own opinion & beauty is subjective matter" shit
because i'm entitled to mine as well

return factor : unlikely but keep monitoring

[lengjai]

Ok ok..

I get it.. Id still visit SL.. the lineup can get better, and services can always improve with any shop..

Don't just hammer snow lotus as all shops are a hit and miss, especially with the negotiable extras you pay. You can always say no to extras, I've done it already with other girls, no harm done.

[sharky]

What's a interesting threadBring back a lot of memories in all the Burwood shops.
I havn't been to SL but reading all the postthe only gal I like to try is Tiffany
She is short,size 6,small ball ball n very naughtymy cup of tea.

[lonely heart]

Ok ok..

I get it.. Id still visit SL.. the lineup can get better, and services can always improve with any shop..

Don't just hammer snow lotus as all shops are a hit and miss, especially with the negotiable extras you pay. You can always say no to extras, I've done it already with other girls, no harm done.

That may not work. Although I am not a SL regular so I cannot confirm. Some posted here or Auxxxreview suggested that SL girls are expecting customer to ask extra, especially the clothes off option. When you don't take up extra or jsut go for the $20, there has been report that the girl will be unhappy and make client feel very unplesent.

[noeyedeer]

Good on you bro LH, keep it cuming and show your true colours, I'm with you all the way.
Back to the good old days in Burwood, you'd not need to negotiate the extras most of the time. everyone knew the prices, girls are happy, we (punters) are happy.
I'm not a regular @ SL, Vicky is friendly & down to earth, she went out of her way to make you feel comfortable and her angels are friendly as well, but extras are bit expensive and sort of made me reluctant to return for a repeat visit once the initial urge is gone.
If these angels can keep this trend going, sooner rather than later it will spread like a virus and other girls in this industry will copy and follow, then even the milfs & chops will do the same, making a fun & relaxing hours of massage less afforable.
That's my 2 cents worth of thought.
Stand up bros, say NO to extras (overpriced) !!!

[lonely heart]

Bro noeyedeer
That is bloody unlikely to happen. Chinese massage shops has the worse pricing system in the adult industry. Most of the time the girls make the call for how much they ask for services. It is not uncommon that the girls have an agreement behind the boss’ back and agree on a price on extras. That is esssentally what destroyed this industry. I guess we have Alice and Billy to blame for. Why the fuck didn’t they set the rate up like the Thai B2B massage. So lets say suddenly a girl or the girls want to increase ther extra charge, then is absolutely not a fucking thing that Vicky or the customer can do.

[wilisno]

The pricing destroying the industry ??? How did you come to that conclusion ? I thought the massage industry is booming at the moment, going from strength to strength due to this sort of attractions, new ones opening up ever so often !

[ScopionX]

Just a note I am not even going to border to reply to people who just write a few posts and half of them singing and dancing in the SL thread

I do want to reply to brother Bronze's post about pricing been fair or not fair though

U have your point. but there is a bit of history behind this and I tried not to get into that to avoid people telling me to move on. But since you have mentioned it here we go.

All this started (and many of our brothers) started in the days in Burwood 1 (Now 143 Marrickville), Burwood 8 (gone), Burwood 2 (Now 501) and Alice's (Ashfiels). It was $45 all included. Extra is like $20-$30 can get clothers off or even BJ, and sure $50 can get FS 80% of the time. Then Burwood got clean up and while Burwood 2 resurface at Newtown as 501, this tradition has been retain since then. ie HJ included. You will not believe at a point 501 is where every girl want to go and work cos it is so busy.

Now that the massage shop business has become much harder to make money, the owner and girls trying to milk as much out of customer as possible and with many old shops and old girls gone. The new ones is making tiping $20 for HJ a norm. This changed the price scale as no one would willing to take their clothes off for $30 anymore so nude gone up to $50 and so FS go up to $70 or $80 and in many case in many case $100.

Now coming from where we were before and when other type of shop has not put their price up and many has gone down. You can’t help feeling what I am feeling.

Off to work Brothers.

I have to disagree what you are saying, you mean all ML should be standardised and charge the same low price for HJ, taking clothes off, BJ and even FS, who do you think you are, and you want to treat the massage girls like slave labour to satisfy your cheap lust??

The massage girls ( not only SL) are human and they have rights and eventhough they work in massage shop, they have a choice to choose what services they are happy and willing to provide, they are not prostitutes, if they are, they would have worked in a brotheles.

Like brother Ahlungor said, if you want FS, go to a FS shops and the cheapest shops is 501 and you can get a free HJ there too. But SL and all the other Chinese shops in city area don't have a set price because the girls work for themselves and I don't think Vicky or any other bosses can or should force the girl to do Hj for free and get nake for another $10 or $20, they have right and they can choice, you don't like it, go somewhere else and stop complainting.

What if the customer is ugly and dirty or have a really bad BO and the girl don't want to serve and do extras, in FS she has no choice but in MS she does, that's why they work in MS instead. I sure all decent human being will understand.

And I am a paying customer at Snow Lotus and I like Cici, Tiffany and Emma there, eventhough I can have much cheaper girls elsewhere, so what??

I also was the reg.customer in MOC, BM, 5* and 22 if I use your head to think about the kind of "value ", so I can also complain them? why I need to pay $300-350 to them? why I don't just go to 5*/22 for better service just only $180, as someone say b4, Tiffany/CiCi may not have a chance to lineup in GF, but I can tell, they 100% can line up at MOC/BM if they want to, some of the girls there were even worse than Tiffany/CiCi, so $100 is nothing at all, what do you thinking in you head? when we go to punting, we will just thinking for Fun and get the smile afterward, then the price is worth it, who will care about the budget of it, only the one who are bargain their budget will ask for cheaper price or even free FS.The food in AU also price up a lot, I used to be eat a lunch for $5 15 years ago, and now nearly $20, why you don't complain them?

Hey! Wake up mate, this is what's the world going on nowadays in the organisation, not 10-20 years ago, which girls want to get FS in cheap price as they were not ugly at all, there have no free lunch anymore.
As I said b4, and I am going to say it again,
" DO NOT use your own standard to appraise the others"

[IExperiment]

I have to disagree what you are saying, you mean all ML should be standardised and charge the same low price for HJ, taking clothes off, BJ and even FS, who do you think you are, and you want to treat the massage girls like slave labour to satisfy your cheap lust??

The massage girls ( not only SL) are human and they have rights and eventhough they work in massage shop, they have a choice to choose what services they are happy and willing to provide, they are not prostitutes, if they are, they would have worked in a brotheles.

Like brother Ahlungor said, if you want FS, go to a FS shops and the cheapest shops is 501 and you can get a free HJ there too. But SL and all the other Chinese shops in city area don't have a set price because the girls work for themselves and I don't think Vicky or any other bosses can or should force the girl to do Hj for free and get nake for another $10 or $20, they have right and they can choice, you don't like it, go somewhere else and stop complainting.

What if the customer is ugly and dirty or have a really bad BO and the girl don't want to serve and do extras, in FS she has no choice but in MS she does, that's why they work in MS instead. I sure all decent human being will understand.

And I am a paying customer at Snow Lotus and I like Cici, Tiffany and Emma there, eventhough I can have much cheaper girls elsewhere, so what??

I also was the reg.customer in MOC, BM, 5* and 22 if I use your head to think about the kind of "value ", so I can also complain them? why I need to pay $300-350 to them? why I don't just go to 5*/22 for better service just only $180, as someone say b4, Tiffany/CiCi may not have a chance to lineup in GF, but I can tell, they 100% can line up at MOC/BM if they want to, some of the girls there were even worse than Tiffany/CiCi, so $100 is nothing at all, what do you thinking in you head? when we go to punting, we will just thinking for Fun and get the smile afterward, then the price is worth it, who will care about the budget of it, only the one who are bargain their budget will ask for cheaper price or even free FS.The food in AU also price up a lot, I used to be eat a lunch for $5 15 years ago, and now nearly $20, why you don't complain them?

Hey! Wake up mate, this is what's the world going on nowadays in the organisation, not 10-20 years ago, which girls want to get FS in cheap price as they were not ugly at all, there have no free lunch anymore.
As I said b4, and I am going to say it again,
" DO NOT use your own standard to appraise the others"

This is correct you cannot compared all the girls to be same price. I dont mind having another session with Rossi for $2K at the end of the year when I am available for O/N so yes pricing will always be different on girls after all they are all different individual.

[wilisno]

" DO NOT use your own standard to appraise the others"

Well said bro ! Just like going to a concert, some pay $400 for a standing position near the stage while others pay $50 with a seat for the same concert ! Who's to judge who's wrong either way ! As long as they're happy !

[ouch]

It's all relevant to ur own experience. To me this place is underpriced. I used to go to Babylon for the evening admittedly facilities are a little more grandiose. But in the end I'd pay close to 250 including tips for masseuse and locker room. I enjoyed the seats and big TVs and spa steam etc and girls were some gorgeous some soso and service unless u go same girl was very variable but i still went one or 2 times a week. Sl girls are all very nice all very different personas . SLnot all are the best masseuses on the planet , but some are very good. I feel for the guys who read the good times a lot of us here have reported who go in and expect the works straight away. It's a MASSAGE SHOP. NOT A KNOCK SHOP. GIRLS PANTS DON'T JUST FALL OFF COS U PAY UR 55$ . I go to a.massage shop for massage and if I cos like girl I go back. In this case I like several at sl all lovely all lovely girls and all for different reasons. If something extra happens above and beyond the normal one day happens great if not great time still had and still works out at half what I used to pay. And at babylon I never knew owner and owner did not give a rats ass what I thought of my time there. At sl the lady in charge cares a lot and tries to please everyone .but that is just not possible. If u don't like the place or the price fair enough . Go some where else means I won't wait to see who I like. I been to a lot of massage shops around Sydney and as far as value for dollar spent to ratio of enjoyment factor. Sl wins by a country mile and props to Ahlungor for exposing this gem as its close to home and I enjoy it. If anyone thinks they got better value shops good for you go there . While I can sl does the job nicely for me

[IExperiment]

Bro noeyedeer
That is bloody unlikely to happen. Chinese massage shops has the worse pricing system in the adult industry. Most of the time the girls make the call for how much they ask for services. It is not uncommon that the girls have an agreement behind the boss’ back and agree on a price on extras. That is esssentally what destroyed this industry. I guess we have Alice and Billy to blame for. Why the fuck didn’t they set the rate up like the Thai B2B massage. So lets say suddenly a girl or the girls want to increase ther extra charge, then is absolutely not a fucking thing that Vicky or the customer can do.

This is true but thats call sales tactic. You sound like now your complaining to much and taking it a bit personal as your first post seem pretty fair and ofcourse your welcome to post about 501 but at the end of the day If lungor happy to promote SL as he like the shop and get along its up to him and some of us will say yep thats true and some will say well I did not have that experience and thats it. I actually paid more extra but this is up to me and what service I got

[lonely heart]

This is correct you cannot compared all the girls to be same price. I dont mind having another session with Rossi for $2K at the end of the year when I am available for O/N so yes pricing will always be different on girls after all they are all different individual.

Out of all this is this first one I want ot reply. Even the girls compare between themselves first there was the rest of the inner west girls complaining Belmore 1 girls make them so cheap. After that city massage girls saying inner west girls so cheap. Then now the most common one I heard is The rest complaining 501 girls is so cheap. In all thiese cases the later ones want to only do half the work of the former and make double the money.

[lonely heart]

I have to disagree what you are saying, you mean all ML should be standardised and charge the same low price for HJ, taking clothes off, BJ and even FS, who do you think you are, and you want to treat the massage girls like slave labour to satisfy your cheap lust??

The massage girls ( not only SL) are human and they have rights and eventhough they work in massage shop, they have a choice to choose what services they are happy and willing to provide, they are not prostitutes, if they are, they would have worked in a brotheles.

Like brother Ahlungor said, if you want FS, go to a FS shops and the cheapest shops is 501 and you can get a free HJ there too. But SL and all the other Chinese shops in city area don't have a set price because the girls work for themselves and I don't think Vicky or any other bosses can or should force the girl to do Hj for free and get nake for another $10 or $20, they have right and they can choice, you don't like it, go somewhere else and stop complainting.

What if the customer is ugly and dirty or have a really bad BO and the girl don't want to serve and do extras, in FS she has no choice but in MS she does, that's why they work in MS instead. I sure all decent human being will understand.

And I am a paying customer at Snow Lotus and I like Cici, Tiffany and Emma there, eventhough I can have much cheaper girls elsewhere, so what??

I also was the reg.customer in MOC, BM, 5* and 22 if I use your head to think about the kind of "value ", so I can also complain them? why I need to pay $300-350 to them? why I don't just go to 5*/22 for better service just only $180, as someone say b4, Tiffany/CiCi may not have a chance to lineup in GF, but I can tell, they 100% can line up at MOC/BM if they want to, some of the girls there were even worse than Tiffany/CiCi, so $100 is nothing at all, what do you thinking in you head? when we go to punting, we will just thinking for Fun and get the smile afterward, then the price is worth it, who will care about the budget of it, only the one who are bargain their budget will ask for cheaper price or even free FS.The food in AU also price up a lot, I used to be eat a lunch for $5 15 years ago, and now nearly $20, why you don't complain them?

Hey! Wake up mate, this is what's the world going on nowadays in the organisation, not 10-20 years ago, which girls want to get FS in cheap price as they were not ugly at all, there have no free lunch anymore.
As I said b4, and I am going to say it again,
" DO NOT use your own standard to appraise the others"

1. I never say they are slaves did I? So you think 501 slave their girls ??
2 I did not say they are force to do sex of even HJ, I just say each price should be a fixed rate.
3 The girls can decided the price is the main problem, That is the part that i think 501 did very well. As the customer won't get upset. Again you can not do certathis revives but if you do you have to stay in a price range.
4 if there is someone they dont want to do they can. You think FS girls have to do everyone?? You have not read enough complain about 5*.
5 I was taking stuf in the space of last 7-8 years not 20. and in the punting joins that I go, everywhere has sstay flat or go down in price except chinese massage joins. I never say babylon Midas did I.
6 it is me that should say "DO NOT use your own standard to appraise the others" Cost that is what your reply is all about.

[lonely heart]

The pricing destroying the industry ??? How did you come to that conclusion ? I thought the massage industry is booming at the moment, going from strength to strength due to this sort of attractions, new ones opening up ever so often !

You have no idea how tough is most chinese massage right now, and no this is not my opinion, its facts that told by owner of shops. Main reason:
1 Less supply of girls because of difficulty of getting a visa and the high aus dollar.
2 Very few girls like to learn massage these days, especially the young ones, they just want stand there and look pretty…..and milk $50 off you.
3 Many girls rather go to work in FS rather than massage cos it is less work more money.
4 What’s left who willing to work in massage shop asking higher price and drive customer away
5 FS shops dropping price like hell
Not every shop is SL or 501. In fact The most common format is owner + 1 to 2 girls And it will be lucky the shop has more than 10 jobs a day.