Italy has lockdown, but many people still wandering around and not listening, because they don’t take this thing seriously. Although shop closed, they still visit friend and relatives etc.
Do you know that 38% of the hospitalised people in US is age 20 to 54?
And of the death, 20% is age 20 to 54?
You can be die even without pre existing condition, 21 years old female in UK die of corona virus without pre existing condition last week, and the family is regret not take this thing seriously.
We have a control for this corona virus. The Spanish flu of 1919. It killed more Americans than WW1,WW2 and the Vietnam war. About 650,000. The population was 1/3 of what it is today so we may have as many as 2 million dead just in the USA. Third world countries like Indonesia will do worse. It’s not a beat up or a conspiracy or a nothing burger. It’s real and it is a killer.
People who don't buy into hysteria and think they are way clever than everyone else (like Dann and originalmj23 ) are the ones who are not listening.Originally Posted by phoenix555
Some are still comparing this to flu.
First of all, we haven't build immunity to coronavirus.
Unlike influenza, for which we have anti-viral medicines and vaccines, there are currently no licensed vaccines or drugs for COVID-19
For COVID-19 at the moment, the global case fatality rate is over 3 percent, although we think it’s probably closer to 1 per cent. At a rate of 1 per cent, COVID-19 would be about 10 times more deadly than seasonal flu, which is estimated to kill between 290,000 and 650,000 people globally every year.
COVID-19 is way more contagious. A person with flu will spread it to 1.3 people. A person with COVID-19 will spread it to 2 to 2.5.
That means the new coronavirus is about twice as contagious as influenza.
Reference: https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...o-flu/12073696
Plus, even if the virus effects 20% of the population, it will have major impact. Do we let the vulnerable, disabled, and the adults die because we, the younger ones, are fit and healthy to cope up with this?...How selfish can people get?...And we don't know how fit we are either. Only cocky people would take this lightly because they have a barometer of some kind to instantly tell them how fit they are.
Many people will die.
Even at 3% death rate... if the number infected reaches 10-20mil... you can do the maths.
But those who survive, they will rise like phoenix and grab all the assets from the dead.
Many a men will be rich by end of year.
You forget those who pass away will have family who will claim what remains....so the theory is flawed.
https://youtu.be/JBB9bA-gXL4
The premise that the virus is so lethal to point we crash the whole worlds economy and lock people in house arrests for atleast 2 months for a virus that has a suposed mortality rate of 1%(based on unreliable and skewed data mainly fron china and italy) is hugely ignornant at best and deeply sinister at worst.
And what do you think we should do?
Take the risk of infecting entire population and see how it goes because you think the mortality rate is skewed and have a hunch that is all hysteria.
There will be blood in the hands of people like you if entire population is exposed.
Are you a medical expert?...Or do you think all the medical experts around the world is controlled by media?
And what do you think will happen if adults and vulnerable people starting dying at that time?
All the hospitals will be full; organizations will close if entire population is sick with virus; there will be even more chaos.
It will impact the same economy you are trying to save.
What part of mitigating and minimizing risk do you not understand?
Let me hear your plans about what should happen since you seem to act as an expert and know-it-all.
You see that what happens when a men have no pussy to play with. Going crazy and abusing each other who is right or wrong. Fire up guys interesting debate,keep it up as long not killed each other.
the bottom line is this is basicially an overhyped fear mongering event that had spooked the whole world into thinking this is an approcalyse. I have previously quoted many medical experts that strongly disagree with current media narrative and hysteria. But because their view do not fit the current fear mongering agenda they get absolutely no mention and get riduculed by the media.
https://youtu.be/p_AyuhbnPOI
https://youtu.be/MARVdS-pHdQ
https://youtu.be/onrWLT6XYKk
https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...ina-flu-deaths
You really need to ask yourselve if this all makes sense, is it justified to have the army on the streets locking up people in house arrest. Which group of people are benefitting or suffering from this event?
Hahahaha
Punters turned analyst turned doctors turned mathematicians...
I'd rather focus on what to do after the virus ends...might as well start a new thread
Going crazy as there are no ml or wl to take out my anxiety on.
The government is providing extra support for mental health problems as a result of self isolation. Maybe you can speak to a psychologist about your anxiety.
People are so sick of wh&s and the news over dramatising everything not many people took it serious to start with, every year there is a new killer flu. Its like the boy who cried wolf.
Also everything is so sterile these days nobody's immune system is as strong.
What do you do when you're the king of your nation and you want to get away from the coronavirus in your country? Go abroad and take your harem with you!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oncubines.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-outbreak.html
A relevant read in The Spectator. Yes, it would be just if the CCP paid the world back. Three viruses they've let loose on us in the 21st century!
"In Australia alone, confronting the Wuhan virus crisis has meant a $3 billion clinical response, and $200 billon, so far, in economic stimulus to keep businesses going. Britain is putting an extra £30 billion into its National Health Service alone. The costs of enforcing shutdowns and lockouts across the world will also be astronomical. And these are just direct costs, not the dire economic catastrophe unfolding as whole industries crash, jobs are lost, share markets plummet and daily life is upended (more toilet paper, anyone?). Almost certainly, coronavirus soon will bring Australia recession after nearly thirty years, achieving what even the 2008 Global Financial Crisis could not.
Being brutally frank: all this global disruption and misery originates with the communist Chinese regime. Xi’s government owed a moral duty not just to his people but the whole world to do all it could to contain the outbreak at the outset. As with bird flu and SARS, however, it put covering its own backside and saving face ahead of the lives of its own citizens and the well-being of the rest of the world. Yet from the Chinese leadership there has been no regret, no taking any responsibility for what originated under its authoritarian control. Instead it brands any criticism, even merely pointing out Wuhan being the virus’s Ground Zero, as racist and xenophobic.
Xi’s ‘up yours’ to the rest of the world is appallingly immoral. From its lax regulation of wet markets that enabled the first human case of Wuhan virus, for its incompetence, and especially its initial cover-up that denied other nations precious time to prepare, Xi’s regime is culpable. Applying principles of common law negligence, it grossly breached its duty of care to those to whom it was owed: all of us. The worldwide pandemic consequences of Chinese government malfeasance were reasonably foreseeable, even if the massive scale of the economic, social and political damage is worse than ever can have been imagined. Xi’s regime must be held accountable morally and politically, if not legally.
If this was a case under Australian law, the perpetrator of such culpable negligence would be liable to pay huge damages to all suffering catastrophic loss from their actions and possibly face criminal charges too. As the world faces Wuhan virus-induced recession or worse, and people die in their thousands, why shouldn’t Mr Morrison, President Trump and other world leaders calculate the damage the Chinese regime’s negligence has wrought, and send Comrade Xi the most gigantic reparations bill in the history of mankind? He deserves it and his discredited, despotic government should be made to pay it."
Amen to that...........
I find it somewhat surprising that many celebrities and people in the social limelight can get tested and in some cases not just once but more than twice or four times as was the case for Richard Wilkins when there is a shortage of test kits for the rest of the general population.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...OUR-TIMES.html
So can you visit say your girlfriend?IMG-20200331-WA0015.jpg
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Have to agree with God Member.
When this blows over, brace yourself for another china-inflicted virus upon the world in about 10 years.
Sorry! Let me rephrase that: Brace yourself for another Chinese government's negligence that causes another virus to let loose in 10 years.
The latest Australian figures are showing women in the 20-29 age group have the highest rate of infection now. Most WLs and MLs are in this age group.
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