Quote Originally Posted by carlco777 View Post
what you say sounds reasonable and logical, but things don't always happen the way you say. for the police to prosecute anyone, they need to have proof. they can't just show up at the massage shop and start arresting everyone. so if you happen to be there when they conduct a raid, it does not automatically mean you got done. if you were there for just an innocent massage, no way can they prosecute you. massages are not illegal. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THEY KNOW OR WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS, IT IS WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVE. so for them to issue you a summons, you must admit what you were there for and who you asked for the service. the other person must also have admitted that she accepted a sum of money from you for the said service. they must have both of these to proceed with any kind of prosecution. of course, this is harder to obtain than what you think, so what they do is they will coerce and threaten you. for example, they will ask you if the address on your licence is current and then say they will ask you questions in the next few days at your place of residence. most people don't want that happening for fear of embarrassment in front of family members or share mates so they readily accept and admit their mistakes, and hopefully it is only a fine, pay the money and get on with their lives.

Massage shops are not illegal, otherwise there wouldn't be any around. BUT the activities conducted within the premises might be illegal. massages by themselves are not illegal, but if sexual services are being offered, IN QLD YOU WILL NEED A LICENCE FOR THAT ( BROTHELS EXIST BECAUSE THEY HAVE LICENCE TO CONDUCT SEXUAL ACTIVITIES ON THEIR PREMISES, MASSAGE PARLOURS DON'T HAVE SUCH LICENCES ). so if there is a raid, the ones in trouble are usually the massage ladies, cos the ladies are the ones providing the services, NOT THE MASSAGE PARLOUR ( unless the massage parlour itself has advertised that you can get sexaul services there ). make no mistake. the law is very very technical. so of course during the raid, the girls have to provide ID and the relevant visas, work visa or resident visa or .... whatever it is. most of the raids that we hear of being conducted, it is because someone complained that the massage parlour is using underaged girls, or girls who got no work visas etc etc The guy who filed the complaint is usually a previous customer who got a bad service, or is angry with the massage girl for whatever reason, or could simply be a competitor. who knows ?

if the police acts against the massage parlours, they have to prove the shop knew about the activities that their girls provide. only then can the shop be fined. sure, the shop won't admit any knowledge of such. then the police will say, okay, we will be dropping in to your shop every day or every few days to check on you guys. this of course is bad for business, and massage girls will stop wanting to work there, customers won't be coming in for fear of raids or getting involved ....... so it is easier admitting to the charge and paying the fine.
I'm not going into all the other stuff you've written, but you can actually be charged just for being on the premises of an illegal brothel, unless you have a valid reason. You don't need to be caught in the act. The police don't need proof to charge you, that is up to the prosecutor in court. Being there just for a standard massage is not considered a valid reason.