Sugar dating

[hungry4love007]

Hi Everyone,

I always wondered whether punting or SD more fun. I know its subjective and different person have different take, but wanted to know others opinion.

I was checking with a big dark skinned indian chick who is happy for SD arrange ment 200 per meet (redhotpie). Sounds great value but booking hotel, drink and other things does not seems convenient. Where as i can just go to a RNT and FS , spend the money and 1 hr and done with that.

Where and which sites you get SD's and how much usually you pay for SD per annum (also it's depends on others individual situation, just curious to know).

[clausedd]

Following! Always interested in exploring that side of the experience. Is anyone here a sugar daddy and if yes, how much are you generally spending on a monthly basis?

Also @hungry5love007 - how did you find that? :O

[hungry4love007]

Following! Always interested in exploring that side of the experience. Is anyone here a sugar daddy and if yes, how much are you generally spending on a monthly basis?

Also @hungry5love007 - how did you find that? :O

As mentioned, redhotpie. But i believe there are lots of other sites or places too.

[juscruisin58]

Hi Everyone,

I always wondered whether punting or SD more fun. I know its subjective and different person have different take, but wanted to know others opinion.

I was checking with a big dark skinned indian chick who is happy for SD arrange ment 200 per meet (redhotpie). Sounds great value but booking hotel, drink and other things does not seems convenient. Where as i can just go to a RNT and FS , spend the money and 1 hr and done with that.

Where and which sites you get SD's and how much usually you pay for SD per annum (also it's depends on others individual situation, just curious to know).

Seeking Arrangement is your friend.
I have had several successful encounters from there over the years and an currently in a longer term arrangement with a girl who turns 24 next week.
You will NOT get quality for 200 a meet.
Think of SB's like private escorts, you are paying for quality and possibly exclusivity.

[Riff888]

Seeking Arrangement is your friend.
I have had several successful encounters from there over the years and an currently in a longer term arrangement with a girl who turns 24 next week.
You will NOT get quality for 200 a meet.
Think of SB's like private escorts, you are paying for quality and possibly exclusivity.Just sent you a PM, not sure you can reply.

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[clausedd]

Seeking Arrangement is your friend.
I have had several successful encounters from there over the years and an currently in a longer term arrangement with a girl who turns 24 next week.
You will NOT get quality for 200 a meet.
Think of SB's like private escorts, you are paying for quality and possibly exclusivity.

How much does it roughly cost you to have such arrangement?

[suckitbaby]

How much does it roughly cost you to have such arrangement?

$400 or more depending on the girl.

[sexercisor2230]

Hi Everyone,

I always wondered whether punting or SD more fun. I know its subjective and different person have different take, but wanted to know others opinion.

I was checking with a big dark skinned indian chick who is happy for SD arrange ment 200 per meet (redhotpie). Sounds great value but booking hotel, drink and other things does not seems convenient. Where as i can just go to a RNT and FS , spend the money and 1 hr and done with that.

Where and which sites you get SD's and how much usually you pay for SD per annum (also it's depends on others individual situation, just curious to know).

A lot of indian girls are really blokes...be careful..check ur inbox

[Riff888]

If you really connect with the girl you will move away from PPM and it'll be more like GF/FWB situation but you'll be buying her things and taking her out. Basically looking after her.

Watch out for scammers and people who are not even in Australia.

There are all sorts, I was contacted by this 18 year old who had given birth a month before. Not married but still living with the father's family. Asked me to take her shopping, also wanted me to have a child seat just in case she couldn't get any baby sitter. I said no thank you. She contacted me just last week on Kik, I said I have an arrangement. She had no luck yet. My advice to her, don't be completely honest and don't talk about child seats.

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[Vader]

I don't know why most of you blokes don't just go out and meet chicks in pubs and interests groups etc. Save a lot of issues that you guys are always talking about.

[Crusader]

I don't know why most of you blokes don't just go out and meet chicks in pubs and interests groups etc. Save a lot of issues that you guys are always talking about.

Its more efficient. Ive got two absolute stunners on the go at the moment (22 and 25) via seeking arrangement that started in october and november last year. I pay their rents, take them out to dinner on the weekend and the occasional gift so its setting me back about 1600 a week. Works out great for all of us. The older one has been buying me things here and there and has also been helping out with things like cleaning my place every week lately, which is a big plus. They both love sex as much as i do and the older one is asking to meet up more and more. Was only on the site for 3 weeks.

We started by setting times and dates for sex, thats all gone out the window now. I really only have two nights a week to myself these days so there is no shortage of the boom boom. Hard to explain, its almost like a flourishing relationship lol

[clausedd]

I don't know why most of you blokes don't just go out and meet chicks in pubs and interests groups etc. Save a lot of issues that you guys are always talking about.

Sometime you want to have a such arrangement while having a gf / wife and not feasible to be out in pubs / interest groups. While at the same time do not want to go to a FS / massage place.

[juscruisin58]

I don't know why most of you blokes don't just go out and meet chicks in pubs and interests groups etc. Save a lot of issues that you guys are always talking about.

I couldn't be bothered going to clubs/pubs etc, and besides I'm 56, too old for that stuff.
I met my SB in very early 2020 just before the start of Covid, and I have to say it has been a very beneficial arrangement for both of us.
We are exclusive, she genuinely appreciates the financial support, and we are sleeping together at least 3 times a week.
When you find a good SB they are drama free and as said elsewhere here, they become a genuine FWB, and there is nothing like regularly fucking a girl that is 32 years younger than you.

[Riff888]

I don't know why most of you blokes don't just go out and meet chicks in pubs and interests groups etc. Save a lot of issues that you guys are always talking about.The dating game has changed.

I was in the dating game pre 2019 and it sucks. Very rarely do people meet at clubs or bars. It's all apps, Tinder, CMB and Bumble to name a few.

Very time consuming, very hit and miss, some girls play hard to get, others sleep with you within the week. FWB from dating leads to her usually wanting more from you in terms of commitment. Having a wife/GF is good if she's easy going and not possessive. But in my experience they try to control you too much and want to know where your money goes.

I'm having more fun with my arrangement now. There are some seriously hot 18 to 20 year olds on the site, you just need to be able to give them what they want, especially at the start.

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[hungry4love007]

The dating game has changed.

I was in the dating game pre 2019 and it sucks. Very rarely do people meet at clubs or bars. It's all apps, Tinder, CMB and Bumble to name a few.

Very time consuming, very hit and miss, some girls play hard to get, others sleep with you within the week. FWB from dating leads to her usually wanting more from you in terms of commitment. Having a wife/GF is good if she's easy going and not possessive. But in my experience they try to control you too much and want to know where your money goes.

I'm having more fun with my arrangement now. There are some seriously hot 18 to 20 year olds on the site, you just need to be able to give them what they want, especially at the start.

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Which site? Seeking.com.

[Vader]

The dating game has changed.

I was in the dating game pre 2019 and it sucks. Very rarely do people meet at clubs or bars. It's all apps, Tinder, CMB and Bumble to name a few.

Very time consuming, very hit and miss, some girls play hard to get, others sleep with you within the week. FWB from dating leads to her usually wanting more from you in terms of commitment. Having a wife/GF is good if she's easy going and not possessive. But in my experience they try to control you too much and want to know where your money goes.

I'm having more fun with my arrangement now. There are some seriously hot 18 to 20 year olds on the site, you just need to be able to give them what they want, especially at the start.

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Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.

[GoldfishMan]

The dating game has changed.

I was in the dating game pre 2019 and it sucks. Very rarely do people meet at clubs or bars. It's all apps, Tinder, CMB and Bumble to name a few.

Very time consuming, very hit and miss, some girls play hard to get, others sleep with you within the week. FWB from dating leads to her usually wanting more from you in terms of commitment. Having a wife/GF is good if she's easy going and not possessive. But in my experience they try to control you too much and want to know where your money goes.

I'm having more fun with my arrangement now. There are some seriously hot 18 to 20 year olds on the site, you just need to be able to give them what they want, especially at the start.

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Agreed about the pubs and clubs point. Those were where people used to go to hook up, but that was more out of necessity than choice. Very few people like to be in those social settings alone and without company including men and women. These apps allow you to hook up or at least get the ball rolling without needing to run that gauntlet.

[konfuzion]

Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.
Bro living in galaxy far far away long long time ago 55555555555

[juscruisin58]

Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.

Been married, got the badge and the scars.
Was psychology controlled to the point of being cut off from my family and friends for nearly 30 yrs.
As long as I was doing what she wanted, and seeing who she wanted to see, she was happy, so work was my escape and release, I have to thank her for that as that hard work has now allowed me to be able to afford my SB.
The psychological control has even poisoned my children to the extent I have had no contact from them for the 10 yrs since we split up.
I punted for quite a while, but was wanting a bit more, and the SB arrangement gives me that.
There is a bit of commitment, there is connection, and we both know that either of us can walk at any minute, so we put a bit of effort into making sure the arrangement works. A true FWB relationship.
I know that she will eventually walk away from me for someone closer to her own age, and I'll deal with that when it happens.
After putting up with marital shit for so long, I now live in the moment, and enjoy the company of a young lady who knows which side her bread is buttered on.

[fragnwin]

Been married, got the badge and the scars.
Was psychology controlled to the point of being cut off from my family and friends for nearly 30 yrs.
As long as I was doing what she wanted, and seeing who she wanted to see, she was happy, so work was my escape and release, I have to thank her for that as that hard work has now allowed me to be able to afford my SB.
The psychological control has even poisoned my children to the extent I have had no contact from them for the 10 yrs since we split up.
I punted for quite a while, but was wanting a bit more, and the SB arrangement gives me that.
There is a bit of commitment, there is connection, and we both know that either of us can walk at any minute, so we put a bit of effort into making sure the arrangement works. A true FWB relationship.
I know that she will eventually walk away from me for someone closer to her own age, and I'll deal with that when it happens.
After putting up with marital shit for so long, I now live in the moment, and enjoy the company of a young lady who knows which side her bread is buttered on.

Thank you for sharing your way of life, I must admit my life is heading toward that direction and your experience is much appreciated in many ways.

[Kiryu0]

I wish I had money to do all the above!!

[hungry4love007]

I wish I had money to do all the above!!

Lol ... yeah...

Another part of inquiry is how much people usually spend on SB per month (just to see if its viable approach financially or not) .

[Riff888]

Which site? Seeking.com.Yes, that's it.

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[Riff888]

Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.Hmmm someone is either out of touch with reality or just trolling.

Real thing vs paid sex?

The question has been asked and the bias is on better sex with a WL. This is a punting forum hello.

All sex has a price, I prefer a fixed cost to a variable cost, not to mention the non financial cost.

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[juscruisin58]

Lol ... yeah...

Another part of inquiry is how much people usually spend on SB per month (just to see if its viable approach financially or not) .

I pay my girl $750 per week.
Being mindful we are exclusive, we sleep together multiple times per week, everything is bareback, with anal included.
I do take her shopping from time to time and on holidays (doing another roadtrip in March if Covid let's us)
We are friends, and we appreciate what we do for each other

[Riff888]

Lol ... yeah...

Another part of inquiry is how much people usually spend on SB per month (just to see if its viable approach financially or not) .It's not too bad, average about $400 a week and I see her about 3 times a week.

Not a condom or lube in sight.

I've forgotten how much I love young caucasian girls.

The Seeking site has about a 80/20 split caucasian to other nationalities.

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[Kiryu0]

I'm just a small time employee, maybe one day I'll get to afford that kind of relationship.

Though you guys really do make me envious of your capabilities.

[hungry4love007]

I'm just a small time employee, maybe one day I'll get to afford that kind of relationship.

Though you guys really do make me envious of your capabilities.

Same here mate. Still working and in late 30's.

So 400 pw = 20k per annum, thats a lot for me too.

[zucon]

Same here mate. Still working and in late 30's.

So 400 pw = 20k per annum, thats a lot for me too.

Mate it’s not a lease agreement, can be on and off or on for few weeks then off forever 😃

[hungry4love007]

Mate it’s not a lease agreement, can be on and off or on for few weeks then off forever 😃

Lol ..thanks for clarification..

I mixed it up.

400-750 per week 3 times sex is much better than WL i would say in that case.

[zucon]

Yea but don’t forget it can get complicated specially if you partnered, a WL engagement is without emotional attachment and can try variety lol

[juscruisin58]

Lol ..thanks for clarification..

I mixed it up.

400-750 per week 3 times sex is much better than WL i would say in that case.

We go more than 3 times a week, thats for sure, and the week she has her period, I get anal or CIM blowjobs.
During Covid lock down we were able to still see each other as we are in the same LGA and she basically lived with me for 3 months.

[fjfan]

Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.

Pretty obvious that a lot of us over here have become completely institutionalized by the institution of prostitution. I genuinely worry that I might be heading in the same direction.

[cuteguy]

I have a friend who was a sugar daddy. He would pay for everything when taking the girls out or when shopping. Of course the girls wanted to dine at the best restaurants and in return he got sex out of them. This arrangement suited him because he didn't want commitment. He could afford it because he had a well paid job. The girls would also see other guys and he was well aware of this. He had a few such arrangements but they ended badly when they started to argue over some trivial matters. Probably because the girls would get close to him or they were not reachable when he wanted to see them. My view about this is stay away. Many fish in the sea and you don't need to pay great sums of money to have fun and enjoy company of pretty girls.

[hungry4love007]

Yea but don’t forget it can get complicated specially if you partnered, a WL engagement is without emotional attachment and can try variety lol

Thats the scary part.

But trying new things like mfm, ffm will be fun i assume. With WL its mechanical.

[juscruisin58]

Some thing that needs to be remembered, A lot of girls who are in the SB/SD scene are not working girls, and for many of them it is their first time.
Having said that, there are quite a few who are in it entirely for what they can get out of you, with minimal return.
That is the mine field of SB dating, sorting out who is genuine and who is a scammer

[paulgallen]

It's not too bad, average about $400 a week and I see her about 3 times a week.

Not a condom or lube in sight.

I've forgotten how much I love young caucasian girls.

The Seeking site has about a 80/20 split caucasian to other nationalities.

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$400 a week not too bad. Where do you have sex? At her place or yours or pay for hotel?

[juscruisin58]

$400 a week not too bad. Where do you have sex? At her place or yours or pay for hotel?

That probably depends on whether you need to "hide" her from anybody.
In my situation, my SB spends plenty of time at mine, and that suits us both.

[Kiryu0]

The idea of having a non committal relationship and nearly unlimited sex is enticing ahaha.

[ssfc]

I would think there has to be some form of connection and mutual attraction to have a better experience. It doesn't seem like what some are expecting that it is purely payment for regular sex. Not for me at this stage but maybe later on in life.

[kiddoh]

That probably depends on whether you need to "hide" her from anybody.
In my situation, my SB spends plenty of time at mine, and that suits us both.

Yeah, reading through each of those experiences irrespective of whether it’s fictional or an actual scene. I certainly want to try it out. Not sure whether It will work out or not.

A bit costly affair though. Need to save some money to try it out.

Btw any tips to avoid spammers

I too agree with @cuteguy I had similar issue with a frequent ML.

[GoldfishMan]

Yeah, reading through each of those experiences irrespective of whether it’s fictional or an actual scene. I certainly want to try it out. Not sure whether It will work out or not.

A bit costly affair though. Need to save some money to try it out.

Btw any tips to avoid spammers

I too agree with @cuteguy I had similar issue with a frequent ML.
Ask them for their SB CV and some referrals.

[hungry4love007]

Ask them for their SB CV and some referrals.

Best referral can be found here i assume..lol..if anyone want to share

May be a section for SB review.

[juscruisin58]

I would think there has to be some form of connection and mutual attraction to have a better experience. It doesn't seem like what some are expecting that it is purely payment for regular sex. Not for me at this stage but maybe later on in life.

In my situation, yes, there is connection and attraction, my SB doesn't like males her own age, and her circle of friends are up to 20 yrs older than her.
If I just wanted random sex, I would go back to punting. This arrangement as I see it is better than marriage, we help each other out, we do care for each other, and we respect each other.
Where it will go or what it will lead to God only knows, at least at the moment we enjoy each other's company and are having fun.

[juscruisin58]

Yeah, reading through each of those experiences irrespective of whether it’s fictional or an actual scene. I certainly want to try it out. Not sure whether It will work out or not.

A bit costly affair though. Need to save some money to try it out.

Btw any tips to avoid spammers

I too agree with @cuteguy I had similar issue with a frequent ML.

I can assure you mine is not fictional.
Costly ??? Compared to the shit I put up.with in a marriage, this is heaven.
I guess I have been fortunate in business, worked bloody hard to make it happen and now am enjoying it. Sold my business to a bigger player in the industry I was in for a substantial sum.

Scammers, one tip, never pay them for anything online like pics etc, or as a deposit for a lunch date or coffee. If they are not prepared to have an initial coffee and chat with you without asking for payment, walk away. Thats not how it works, any potential SB that asks for money upfront is to be avoided.

If you have to "hide" your SB from anyone, you are in it for the wrong reasons and should stick to punting

[Sibon]

It's not too bad, average about $400 a week and I see her about 3 times a week.


$400 per week? I'm envious of you.

I pay my regular ML $600 total a week. One and half hour each time twice a week.

God must be smilling at you.

[Sibon]

Been married, got the badge and the scars.
Was psychology controlled to the point of being cut off from my family and friends for nearly 30 yrs.
As long as I was doing what she wanted, and seeing who she wanted to see, she was happy, so work was my escape and release, I have to thank her for that as that hard work has now allowed me to be able to afford my SB.
The psychological control has even poisoned my children to the extent I have had no contact from them for the 10 yrs since we split up.
I punted for quite a while, but was wanting a bit more, and the SB arrangement gives me that.
There is a bit of commitment, there is connection, and we both know that either of us can walk at any minute, so we put a bit of effort into making sure the arrangement works. A true FWB relationship.
I know that she will eventually walk away from me for someone closer to her own age, and I'll deal with that when it happens.
After putting up with marital shit for so long, I now live in the moment, and enjoy the company of a young lady who knows which side her bread is buttered on.

Thanks for your candour. Great to see nice things coming to your way.

I believe the girl would stay with you for a long time because many girls go for an elder man because not only he is established and emotionally mature, he is also caring, generous and gentle. I think you have all these qualities for her to be with you.

[Riff888]

$400 a week not too bad. Where do you have sex? At her place or yours or pay for hotel?My apartment, she now has a set of keys.

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[fragnwin]

Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.

From experience, the real thing is better than paid sex for the first 6 - 8 months.

[juscruisin58]

Thanks for your candour. Great to see nice things coming to your way.

I believe the girl would stay with you for a long time because many girls go for an elder man because not only he is established and emotionally mature, he is also caring, generous and gentle. I think you have all these qualities for her to be with you.

Thank you, I appreciate your comments.
I just showed Violet what you wrote and her response was, "well he could be right, if thats what you want"

[Carissawhore]

Being sugar daddy is for rich people, if I have money to splurge then I will probably have a expensive hobby such as fucking different escorts everyday instead of having one or 2 girls for long period, these girls most of the time are fucking someone else on the side without your knowledge so why go through fake BF/GF relationship when you can spend that money on beautiful WL's. Girls looking for sugar daddy will never be loyal, they are in it for money, who ever shows them more mula, they will open their legs for them. I think lot of punters here are very naive, more girls cheat in a relationship then boys do. I had too many female friends and all of them were cheating and none of their husbands nor BF knew, pussies have more power, we guys just underestimate what normal girls do in their free time. Every single girl will have backup guy, I know this since few girls have asked me this already and I am their backup guy.

[kiddoh]

I can assure you mine is not fictional.
Costly ??? Compared to the shit I put up.with in a marriage, this is heaven.
I guess I have been fortunate in business, worked bloody hard to make it happen and now am enjoying it. Sold my business to a bigger player in the industry I was in for a substantial sum.

Scammers, one tip, never pay them for anything online like pics etc, or as a deposit for a lunch date or coffee. If they are not prepared to have an initial coffee and chat with you without asking for payment, walk away. Thats not how it works, any potential SB that asks for money upfront is to be avoided.

If you have to "hide" your SB from anyone, you are in it for the wrong reasons and should stick to punting

Hope I’m lucky with this one …having an SB during lockdown is always handy. Thanks once again for tips.

[storry_teller]

Nah, the real thing is better than paid sex.

Real thing is better than paid sex, but more headache. Emotion game is never been easy. Pain and hurt will wait for you at the end .

[juscruisin58]

Being sugar daddy is for rich people, if I have money to splurge then I will probably have a expensive hobby such as fucking different escorts everyday instead of having one or 2 girls for long period, these girls most of the time are fucking someone else on the side without your knowledge so why go through fake BF/GF relationship when you can spend that money on beautiful WL's. Girls looking for sugar daddy will never be loyal, they are in it for money, who ever shows them more mula, they will open their legs for them. I think lot of punters here are very naive, more girls cheat in a relationship then boys do. I had too many female friends and all of them were cheating and none of their husbands nor BF knew, pussies have more power, we guys just underestimate what normal girls do in their free time. Every single girl will have backup guy, I know this since few girls have asked me this already and I am their backup guy.

Sounds like you have 3 problems:-
1/ Jealousy (I worked bloody hard to get to where I am)
2/ Trust (My girl and I are exclusive to each other, the fact she lived with me during lockdown, and we spend more time together than apart confirms that. Maybe you need to learn trust rather than listening to a few random WL's
3/ Understanding (if you understand what a Sugar Baby is, you would know it is not a fake BF/GF relationship, it is FWB (Friends with Benefits).

The purpose of having a regular SB is a bit of stability and familiarity, rather than going hunting all the time. And I get my morning wood looked after on a regular basis.

[yug]

Its more efficient. Ive got two absolute stunners on the go at the moment (22 and 25) via seeking arrangement that started in october and november last year. I pay their rents, take them out to dinner on the weekend and the occasional gift so its setting me back about 1600 a week. Works out great for all of us. The older one has been buying me things here and there and has also been helping out with things like cleaning my place every week lately, which is a big plus. They both love sex as much as i do and the older one is asking to meet up more and more. Was only on the site for 3 weeks.

We started by setting times and dates for sex, thats all gone out the window now. I really only have two nights a week to myself these days so there is no shortage of the boom boom. Hard to explain, its almost like a flourishing relationship lol

That is just crazy!
I will be homeless in 6 months if I started paying $1600 per week.
Clearly, this is for executives and businessmen who are rich.

Not saying you are doing anything wrong.
Just saying personally I can't afford it.

I have been on SeekingArrangement before.
Hot ones will always demand higher money.
Even if they ask $400 per week. That's a steady loss of $400 per week.
With punting, there is no arrangement. I control when I go and spend the money.
Once I left the scene for 3 months. There was nobody to tempt me with her come hither look or memories of past copulation with a hot teen.

[yug]

Real thing is better than paid sex, but more headache. Emotion game is never been easy. Pain and hurt will wait for you at the end .

Everybody's giving their opinion.
Let me give mine.

Do whatever floats your boat.
There is no one right answer to this.
If someone can afford it, go for the arrangement and bang as many hotties as you want.
Anything that helps to get over you mid-life crisis (impending or otherwise).
If you are happy with your partner, be with her.
If you like to hookup at a bar (with no money changing hands), go for that.

[yug]

Scammers, one tip, never pay them for anything online like pics etc, or as a deposit for a lunch date or coffee. If they are not prepared to have an initial coffee and chat with you without asking for payment, walk away. Thats not how it works, any potential SB that asks for money upfront is to be avoided.


That is exactly true.
I found that out the hard way with this Australian Born Filo on Seeking Arrangement (around 3 years ago).

[BennyB]

Good morning gentlemen - thank you to whoever started this thread. I’m new to au99 but not new to Sugar Dating as I’ve been using SA and SDM for the past four years. I’ll try to add some value here for those who are curious or just starting out.

I never pay more than $400 for a meet. Meets generally last 2-4 hours, depending on whether I’m having a good time.

In saying that, I’m 40, look mid 30’s, keep myself fit, work in a professional environment, put up photos that reflect an upmarket experience, etc

I paid $500 a couple of times in the beginning when I had no idea what I was doing, but have since had $400 as my cut-off. I aim to move this down to $300 over time.

I pick the ones that seem like normal girls just on SA / SDM for a bit of fun, not pros, who have their own careers or are uni students with lower expectations. So money is not the deciding factor. A good time and the possibility of great sex with a decent sounding older guy is what they can expect - then the money is a bonus. It’s like a tinder date, without wasting their time with a possible psycho.

A number of girls say no thanks. Then 2-3 weeks later they are back and interested when they realize its a good offer, and if they play their part, there could be multiple dates.

[suckitbaby]

Best referral can be found here i assume..lol..if anyone want to share

May be a section for SB review.

Ther's a big review forum for Sugar babes on TNT. You don't need to be rich, had a few unreal SB meets on PPM basis for $400 - $500 less than those escorts on Scarlet Blue who only give you 1 hour for that price.

[juscruisin58]

Ther's a big review forum for Sugar babes on TNT. You don't need to be rich, had a few unreal SB meets on PPM basis for $400 - $500 less than those escorts on Scarlet Blue who only give you 1 hour for that price.

Please tell, What is TNT??

[Wok]

Please tell, What is TNT??

TNT = the naked truth

…. It’s another forum like this one, but you have to excel in creative writing to become a member.

[Kiryu0]

I like the idea of a casual partner with no strings attached and unlimited BBFS.

There shouldn't be any need for emotions to get involved in there arrangements right?

[cuteguy]

I like the idea of a casual partner with no strings attached and unlimited BBFS.

There shouldn't be any need for emotions to get involved in there arrangements right?

Just make sure she's on the pill and doesn't get pregnant or you will be up for child support for a long time if she knows you're loaded and wealthy.

[juscruisin58]

Just make sure she's on the pill and doesn't get pregnant or you will be up for child support for a long time if she knows you're loaded and wealthy.

Or have a vasectomy, again another thing I thank my ex wife for. Harassing me to have it done, allows me to BB the SB with no fear of pregnancy

[GoldfishMan]

Or have a vasectomy, again another thing I thank my ex wife for. Harassing me to have it done, allows me to BB the SB with no fear of pregnancy
High five bro. Although I’m using it to ball my partner instead of an SB. I creampie like a JAV porn star now with no fear!

[Crusader]

That is just crazy!
I will be homeless in 6 months if I started paying $1600 per week.
Clearly, this is for executives and businessmen who are rich.

Not saying you are doing anything wrong.
Just saying personally I can't afford it.

I have been on SeekingArrangement before.
Hot ones will always demand higher money.
Even if they ask $400 per week. That's a steady loss of $400 per week.
With punting, there is no arrangement. I control when I go and spend the money.
Once I left the scene for 3 months. There was nobody to tempt me with her come hither look or memories of past copulation with a hot teen.

I get where you are coming from but i have a big sexual appetite and currently have the means to live this way. Its been a long road and a couple of recent "life experiences" have made me reset and enjoy each day like its my last. For a long time i was just an rnt guy, then was fucking my way through tinder and spending alot of time grafting on the hot ones, which made me question the productivity of it. Then i started seeing 2 or 3 girls a week from e&b which was largely a flop and then scarlet blue and it was honestly costing me about the same as what these 2 sb's are costing me. There is easily 10-15 hours of sex a week now so im getting to bang a couple of hot girls half my age for at most 160 an hour. That and im now getting my placed cleaned and surprise gifts etc. I would argue that my married mates are paying more in mental costs in their marriages with a tenth of the pussy ... At best.

Im sure itll come to an end at some stage but im all about the YOLO at the moment.

[dotcumdotinyou]

If you can afford it then why not, but for me personally no thanks. Emotions would eventually come into force...worry, jealously, suspicion. I prefer to just have a punt when I'm horny and go back to a quite peaceful home, besides I see my daughters twice a week so that's more than enough emotional stimulation for me.

Riff, you mentioned your SB had the keys to your apartment what happened to your Thai missus? A second divorce?

[kiddoh]

Thought of giving it a try and registered couple of sites. Everyone is asking for a jackass registration fee or credit points. I do know that the portal has to survive etc etc. but even to chat it’s a damage of $100 or $160(6months access in redhotpie) which is you can approach whomever you like if it’s only chatting with matches it’s 24$ per month.

$160 that’s a punting cost in a very good establishment such as Ginza or a good RNT with tip

In double mind now. Not sure whether it is a lost money or would be fruitful.

[hungry4love007]

Thought of giving it a try and registered couple of sites. Everyone is asking for a jackass registration fee or credit points. I do know that the portal has to survive etc etc. but even to chat it’s a damage of $100 or $160(6months access in redhotpie) which is you can approach whomever you like if it’s only chatting with matches it’s 24$ per month.

$160 that’s a punting cost in a very good establishment such as Ginza or a good RNT with tip

In double mind now. Not sure whether it is a lost money or would be fruitful.

So true..

I spend few hundreds dollar and hours and scored only twice in Ashley madison.

Redhotpie is waste of money so far. No score yet.

Tinder, okcupid, pof atleast got me something.

But not only money, the amount of time you have to spend does not worth it.

Women get more knock in virtual world than real life.

I would love to go to club and pick up some decent women but yet to find any such place yet.

[kiddoh]

True that! I’m still in search of that. Let me know if you find a good pickup club..

I tried eharmony to start with and then pof, bumble ect. Was able to convert a few but nothing serious. But the damage was heavy i.e time and money went in drain.

[juscruisin58]

I get where you are coming from but i have a big sexual appetite and currently have the means to live this way. Its been a long road and a couple of recent "life experiences" have made me reset and enjoy each day like its my last. For a long time i was just an rnt guy, then was fucking my way through tinder and spending alot of time grafting on the hot ones, which made me question the productivity of it. Then i started seeing 2 or 3 girls a week from e&b which was largely a flop and then scarlet blue and it was honestly costing me about the same as what these 2 sb's are costing me. There is easily 10-15 hours of sex a week now so im getting to bang a couple of hot girls half my age for at most 160 an hour. That and im now getting my placed cleaned and surprise gifts etc. I would argue that my married mates are paying more in mental costs in their marriages with a tenth of the pussy ... At best.

Im sure itll come to an end at some stage but im all about the YOLO at the moment.

Here, here, totally agree, except I just have one SB.
The house being cleaned and some meals cooked is just an added bonus. She'll even do some groceries if she wants to cook something that isn't normally on my menu.
I guess this is the advantage of her being a country girl, very grounded and very practical

[juscruisin58]

So true..

I spend few hundreds dollar and hours and scored only twice in Ashley madison.

Redhotpie is waste of money so far. No score yet.

Tinder, okcupid, pof atleast got me something.

But not only money, the amount of time you have to spend does not worth it.

Women get more knock in virtual world than real life.

I would love to go to club and pick up some decent women but yet to find any such place yet.


True that! I’m still in search of that. Let me know if you find a good pickup club..

I tried eharmony to start with and then pof, bumble ect. Was able to convert a few but nothing serious. But the damage was heavy i.e time and money went in drain.

As with so many things in life, effort put in = Rewards you receive.
In my business life that is what has allowed me to sell my business and retire when I was 52.
It is what now allows me to indulge in being a SD, and be able to afford to support a young lady who is in this for all the right reasons.
It took 4 years to find her, and their were some absolute scamming bitches on the way, the effort has paid off.

[BennyB]

The whole point of paid sites is that it keeps out most of the scammers.

If you think about it - the free sites don’t attract the best women because they are full of creeps. Asking the guys to pay a little helps to give the girls comfort that only genuine, verified buyers are on the site.

It’s also a market place. You have to go where the girls are. SA and SDM are the current hot favourites.

[Riff888]

If you can afford it then why not, but for me personally no thanks. Emotions would eventually come into force...worry, jealously, suspicion. I prefer to just have a punt when I'm horny and go back to a quite peaceful home, besides I see my daughters twice a week so that's more than enough emotional stimulation for me.

Riff, you mentioned your SB had the keys to your apartment what happened to your Thai missus? A second divorce?She's gone, moved to another apartment in Chinatown.

I did post a tread awhile ago about women who are manipulative, emotionally abusive who always gaslight. She wanted to see my payslips since I am contracting. I was sending my money to a secret account, so I didn't want her to know what I earn.

Two of her so called friends contacted me about partner visas, lol unbelievable. Thai girls are special [emoji23]

If you do choose a Thai girl as your partner. Make sure they don't have too much baggage overseas like debt and kids. Try to stick to girls under 30.

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[dotcumdotinyou]

Sounds bad Riff, looks like you got out of it fairly unscathed which is good, we live and we learn.

[hungry4love007]

The whole point of paid sites is that it keeps out most of the scammers.

If you think about it - the free sites don’t attract the best women because they are full of creeps. Asking the guys to pay a little helps to give the girls comfort that only genuine, verified buyers are on the site.

It’s also a market place. You have to go where the girls are. SA and SDM are the current hot favourites.

What are SA and SDM?

[kiddoh]

What are SA and SDM?

I guess its... SA- Seeking Arrangement and SDM-SugarDaddyMatch / https://www.sugar-daddy-meet.com/app.html

[BennyB]

I guess its... SA- Seeking Arrangement and SDM-SugarDaddyMatch / https://www.sugar-daddy-meet.com/app.html

That’s right. These are the two most prominent sites. Secret Benefits is a long way behind and the others are honestly full of scammers and girls you wouldn’t pay to have sex with.

[BennyB]

Is anyone here a sugar daddy and if yes, how much are you generally spending on a monthly basis?

I am. I got tired of brothels and privates and paying by the hour for an experience that felt more transactional. I wanted to keep the variety, but have longer meets. Anything from 2hrs to an overnight.

I typically spend $1,600 a month and will have 2-3 on rotation at any point in time.

In return I am getting about 30 hours of time, so paying $53 / hour. I will be on the receiving end of around 12 SB orgasms a month, which equates to about $133 per round of sex.

I sugar date Caucasians mainly. Ages range from 22 to 28.

I am married and can be flexible with my work.

I’m not a millionaire. I did a fair bit of thinking on how to reduce other expenditure in my life to free up $25k per annum for punting.

[BAM]

I wonder if there is a similar arrangement for PR visa dating? 😅

[BennyB]

You can probably find someone on SA from overseas. But why take the risk when you can fuck a hot, local student on SA with an existing student visa?

[Double_Adapter]

I wonder if there is a similar arrangement for PR visa dating? 😅

More common than you think Mr BAM. From what I’ve heard the financials are right up there with sugaring.

[Sibon]

What are the chances of an Asian man being sugar daddy to a young caucasian girl? Or he as to keep to an Asian girl?

[Vader]

What are the chances of an Asian man being sugar daddy to a young caucasian girl? Or he as to keep to an Asian girl?

Everything has a price. Depends if you can afford it.

[BennyB]

What are the chances of an Asian man being sugar daddy to a young caucasian girl? Or he as to keep to an Asian girl?

I know a number of Asian and Indian guys who are successful SDs.

[Climax598]

What are the chances of an Asian man being sugar daddy to a young caucasian girl? Or he as to keep to an Asian girl?
money money in a rich man world. Remember this song maybe you are to young. I have friends and relatives married Caucasian.

[yug]

I get where you are coming from but i have a big sexual appetite and currently have the means to live this way. Its been a long road and a couple of recent "life experiences" have made me reset and enjoy each day like its my last. For a long time i was just an rnt guy, then was fucking my way through tinder and spending alot of time grafting on the hot ones, which made me question the productivity of it. Then i started seeing 2 or 3 girls a week from e&b which was largely a flop and then scarlet blue and it was honestly costing me about the same as what these 2 sb's are costing me. There is easily 10-15 hours of sex a week now so im getting to bang a couple of hot girls half my age for at most 160 an hour. That and im now getting my placed cleaned and surprise gifts etc. I would argue that my married mates are paying more in mental costs in their marriages with a tenth of the pussy ... At best.

Im sure itll come to an end at some stage but im all about the YOLO at the moment.

No, I agree.
We are all shaped by our past experiences.

I would go for it myself (and once did); it's just that (at this stage in life with few responsibilities) I can't afford it.
All the Best Bro!

[BennyB]

The youngest SD I know is 28. The oldest is 73. I don’t think age matters that much. It’s more about your maturity.

[cuteguy]

Money talks. Many girls in these SD arrangements don't have an issue with the nationality of the guy or whether he has a receding hairline or no 6 pack. As long as he can pay for the lifestyle she desires she'll go with him. If the money runs out well we know what the SB will do next.

[Double_Adapter]

Money talks. Many girls in these SD arrangements don't have an issue with the nationality of the guy or whether he has a receding hairline or no 6 pack. As long as he can pay for the lifestyle she desires she'll go with him. If the money runs out well we know what the SB will do next.

You don’t mean the dreaded monkey branching!
The reality is that most women are also plate spinners and guys refuse to believe this. Even if the guy is loaded with money she will still find a reason to leave him for someone or something else.

All things considered sugaring is still cheaper than divorce. This simp ass Shreik had to fork out $1b to divorce. With that kind of money he could fuck a different high class escort everyday for the rest of his life and still have change.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-22/princess-haya-sheikh-mohammed-uk-divorce-settlement/100718492

[clausedd]

I am. I got tired of brothels and privates and paying by the hour for an experience that felt more transactional. I wanted to keep the variety, but have longer meets. Anything from 2hrs to an overnight.

I typically spend $1,600 a month and will have 2-3 on rotation at any point in time.

In return I am getting about 30 hours of time, so paying $53 / hour. I will be on the receiving end of around 12 SB orgasms a month, which equates to about $133 per round of sex.

I sugar date Caucasians mainly. Ages range from 22 to 28.

I am married and can be flexible with my work.

I’m not a millionaire. I did a fair bit of thinking on how to reduce other expenditure in my life to free up $25k per annum for punting.

Is that like a per meet up or a regular say 400/week?

How long did take you to find the arrangement?

Yeah I feel I would like to try to have such an arrangement, seems interesting. Issue is juggling the meet up I suppose since if you are not single, timing could be the challenge.

[Sibon]

I typically spend $1,600 a month and will have 2-3 on rotation at any point in time.


I spend $600 a week on a regular Chinese ML seeing her twice a week for 1 and half hours each time. She says she provides the Full Service only for me. I don't believe her and I don't care what she does with her customers. So it's $2,400 a month out of pockets for me.

Brother you're doing heaps better. I'm envious of you.

[Crusader]

I am. I got tired of brothels and privates and paying by the hour for an experience that felt more transactional. I wanted to keep the variety, but have longer meets. Anything from 2hrs to an overnight.

I typically spend $1,600 a month and will have 2-3 on rotation at any point in time.

In return I am getting about 30 hours of time, so paying $53 / hour. I will be on the receiving end of around 12 SB orgasms a month, which equates to about $133 per round of sex.

I sugar date Caucasians mainly. Ages range from 22 to 28.

I am married and can be flexible with my work.

I’m not a millionaire. I did a fair bit of thinking on how to reduce other expenditure in my life to free up $25k per annum for punting.

Sounds like youre onto a good thing there bro Benny. Mine are both caucs as well (aus and italian). Are you finding much of a difference in keeping things away from the Mrs between the brothels/privates and now with the SBs?

[juscruisin58]

So true..

I spend few hundreds dollar and hours and scored only twice in Ashley madison.

Redhotpie is waste of money so far. No score yet.

Tinder, okcupid, pof atleast got me something.

But not only money, the amount of time you have to spend does not worth it.

Women get more knock in virtual world than real life.

I would love to go to club and pick up some decent women but yet to find any such place yet.


True that! I’m still in search of that. Let me know if you find a good pickup club..

I tried eharmony to start with and then pof, bumble ect. Was able to convert a few but nothing serious. But the damage was heavy i.e time and money went in drain.


Curious how you are spending $1600 per month and rotating 2 to 3 girls. This must mean you are on a paid to meet basis rather than weekly allowance for all 3 girls? I think either arrangement it still sounds cheap compared to what most girls on there ask for.

I think you must be going after the low hanging fruits, cause the good looking ones tend to ask for much more.

My thoughts too, I pay $750 pw, ++ for one exclusive arrangement.
She probably costs me closer to $1k per week, when you factor in food, clothes, electricity etc, and she gets to use a car. She is with me 75% of the time, the rest she is at her parents at Tamworth.

[Crusader]

Is that like a per meet up or a regular say 400/week?

How long did take you to find the arrangement?

Yeah I feel I would like to try to have such an arrangement, seems interesting. Issue is juggling the meet up I suppose since if you are not single, timing could be the challenge.

They are meant to work around you and your schedule and within reason, be on-call. Thats effectively what you are paying for. But it all comes down to what you have negotiated with them and whether they are "exclusive" to you or not. In my opinion, you would want to bring out the alpha male a little as you literally are the provider for their lifestyle. If you dont, you risk being taken for a ride in a big way. Worse than any dud punt you have ever had. One punter on here mentioned that his SB asked for payslips which is insane. Another punter mentioned that his SB knows what side of her bread is buttered and in my opinion, thats how it should be.

[exstar]

Full credit to the guys here that can maintain the weekly arrangements here! Particularly Riff, juscruisin, Crusader who have struck gold!

For a different perspective I’m more of a PPM guy, and usually limit it to once a month and have two girls from SA that I’m actively in touch with and rotate between the two. I have too many commitments at home to sustain an ongoing arrangement and I would feel obliged to have to schedule time to meet them and that’s not as fun as the spontaneous PPM nature. It will still allow me to visit shops in between and have a bit of variety. That’s just me personally and of course everyone’s boat floats differently.

It’s definitely a bitch to find the right girl on SA weeding through all the crap and finding one that you like and it works both ways for the girls as well. The girls I’m touch with are not stunners but the chemistry and GFE more than makes up for it and nothing a shop girl can replicate without 000s in investment - but there was a good few months lead time to go all the way. SA girls I’ve chatted are more inclined to go with westerners as they are less likely to be attached and they are straight to the point to make a transaction happen and more likely to be generous, and Sydney’s definitely a tougher market compared other cities like Brisbane.

That being said I’m open to new opportunities and have signed up with RHP and SDM to see what it’s like. SDM looks promising and better value than SA.

Happy to share experiences over DM

[juscruisin58]

So true..

I spend few hundreds dollar and hours and scored only twice in Ashley madison.

Redhotpie is waste of money so far. No score yet.

Tinder, okcupid, pof atleast got me something.

But not only money, the amount of time you have to spend does not worth it.

Women get more knock in virtual world than real life.

I would love to go to club and pick up some decent women but yet to find any such place yet.


True that! I’m still in search of that. Let me know if you find a good pickup club..

I tried eharmony to start with and then pof, bumble ect. Was able to convert a few but nothing serious. But the damage was heavy i.e time and money went in drain.


Full credit to the guys here that can maintain the weekly arrangements here! Particularly Riff, juscruisin, Crusader who have struck gold!

For a different perspective I’m more of a PPM guy, and usually limit it to once a month and have two girls from SA that I’m actively in touch with and rotate between the two. I have too many commitments at home to sustain an ongoing arrangement and I would feel obliged to have to schedule time to meet them and that’s not as fun as the spontaneous PPM nature. It will still allow me to visit shops in between and have a bit of variety. That’s just me personally and of course everyone’s boat floats differently.

It’s definitely a bitch to find the right girl on SA weeding through all the crap and finding one that you like and it works both ways for the girls as well. The girls I’m touch with are not stunners but the chemistry and GFE more than makes up for it and nothing a shop girl can replicate without 000s in investment - but there was a good few months lead time to go all the way. SA girls I’ve chatted are more inclined to go with westerners as they are less likely to be attached and they are straight to the point to make a transaction happen and more likely to be generous, and Sydney’s definitely a tougher market compared other cities like Brisbane.

That being said I’m open to new opportunities and have signed up with RHP and SDM to see what it’s like. SDM looks promising and better value than SA.

Happy to share experiences over DM

😀😀😀👍👍👍well said mate, if there is anything I can help you with, don't hesitate to DM
Cheers

[Riff888]

It's fun seeing a young girl who lives with her parents.

Got a call last night at 2:30am saying she was horny. So I drove over and we had car sex close to her place.

I just love how spontaneous she is and I've never said no to her.

She makes really good pasta and the sauce from scratch as well.

Definitely helps not having a partner/wife.

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[Riff888]

Oh I remember seeing Fit Tanya and Serena Lam on SA.

So there are probably a few WLs on there as a side gig.


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[cuteguy]

It's fun seeing a young girl who lives with her parents.

Got a call last night at 2:30am saying she was horny. So I drove over and we had car sex close to her place...

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Do you have spare sheets or towel in the boot for car sex? Sometimes it can come in handy if the girl is a squirter and it's dark inside the car because you don't want to turn on the light.

[suckitbaby]

Oh I remember seeing Fit Tanya and Serena Lam on SA.

So there are probably a few WLs on there as a side gig.


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Definately going to see Selina Lam this year probably off Scarlet Blue though.

[juscruisin58]

Oh I remember seeing Fit Tanya and Serena Lam on SA.

So there are probably a few WLs on there as a side gig.


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One of the early SB's I met on SA was actually working at a high end Sydney massage establishment before they went to allowing full service, so she was doing full service on the side outside of her workplace.
I spent the night with her several times

[Sibon]

It's fun seeing a young girl who lives with her parents.

Got a call last night at 2:30am saying she was horny. So I drove over and we had car sex close to her place.



Cool. A bit like a romance movie I watch.

[BennyB]

Is that like a per meet up or a regular say 400/week?

How long did take you to find the arrangement?

Yeah I feel I would like to try to have such an arrangement, seems interesting. Issue is juggling the meet up I suppose since if you are not single, timing could be the challenge.

Hi @clausedd I've been sugar dating for some time. I am married and my wife is no longer interested in sex (new mum). I could go onto Tinder, or pick up girls in a bar, but I prefer this kind of dating as it allows me to keep things at arms length and have the illusion of a hot affair, with clear boundaries in place. I think of it as a step beyond a WL / ML that you see privately. I've tried that in the past and actively avoid it. Invariably you end up becoming someone's ATM and it ends in tears.

At the same time, I am not looking for just one woman to have an arrangement with. I love women and I enjoy variety. You could go down the approach of being with someone exclusively, but then you have to ask yourself what the purpose of the arrangement really is. Are you looking for a GF? If so, it is possible for an arrangement to turn into a relationship, but it is not common.

This leads me to your question on PPM vs. allowance. I've had girls on allowances ($1,000 per month) where, after 5-6 meets I'm convinced I want to see her 3-4 times a month and have a more sensible financial deal. Otherwise I prefer to start with PPM as it de-risks the arrangement on both sides.

As with timing - there are ways to build flexibility into your life and work, if you are prepared to think strategically. I'm married, with kids and work 50 hour weeks as a consultant. I usually punt twice a week in that timeframe (1 SB meet and 1 RNT)

[BennyB]

I spend $600 a week on a regular Chinese ML seeing her twice a week for 1 and half hours each time. She says she provides the Full Service only for me. I don't believe her and I don't care what she does with her customers. So it's $2,400 a month out of pockets for me.

Brother you're doing heaps better. I'm envious of you.

Thanks for the note and for sharing Sibon. I've been there and done that, so I can certainly sympathise. As I have always preferred European or Eurasian women, my brothel and private punting habits were proving expensive. And you know how it can go when they are fucking multiple guys a day or week - some days its great and some days not. And who really wants to fuck the same girl every week? The height of my stupidity was about four years ago when I was doing 3-4 hour sessions in a brothel with a girl I lost my head over. That cost me a pretty packet, but the lessons were wonderful in hindsight.

I've learned this much - we're kidding ourselves if we think MLs/WLs are only doing something with us. They are professionals. And like master persuaders, they make us feel like we are special. That's all part of the beautiful illusion. It's when we get sucked in and end up blowing our wallets that we rue the moment. But that's ok - it will happen to us and we just have to dust ourselves off and go again.

With Sugarbabes, the unique and wonderful characteristic is that they are not professionals. The ones I chase are just normal young women in their 20's who are sick of shit dates with guys their age, who are immature and who don't treat them with care. They want to feel special and they want to explore their bodies with someone more mature, confident and "who has their shit together". That last quote is what I hear time and again from the girls themselves and other Sugardaddies I know on the scene.

There is no harm in giving Sugarbabes a try. What's the downside?

[BennyB]

Sounds like youre onto a good thing there bro Benny. Mine are both caucs as well (aus and italian). Are you finding much of a difference in keeping things away from the Mrs between the brothels/privates and now with the SBs?

Hey Crusader - thanks for your note. Sounds like you enjoy European women as well. For me that's probably because I've worked in Europe over the years and spent too much time drooling in red light districts. I appreciate the guys who prefer Asian women and there are certainly some seriously hot Australian born Asians on the Sugarbabe sites - I've just never been as attracted and I think it is mainly because of the language barrier for me. The Asian SBs I've had have all been Australians.

Regarding keeping things separate - There is a very good book I read about a year ago called The Smoking Guide to Dating Sugarbabes - anyone is welcome to PM me about it. But the advice, which I took away, was very much about compartmentalising my life so that there is no cross over, keeping things simple and maintaining plausible deniability. A simple example - I never see a Sugarbabe near where I live and they never know my full name, place of work or have access to my socials. I keep it very separate. Those are the terms of my arrangements. We come together, we fall in love with the moment and then we say goodbye until the next time. It's a fantasy and that little bit of an escape from the normal dull routine of life is what makes it special for both of us - and protects both of us.

What mechanisms do you employ?

[BennyB]

Curious how you are spending $1600 per month and rotating 2 to 3 girls. This must mean you are on a paid to meet basis rather than weekly allowance for all 3 girls? I think either arrangement it still sounds cheap compared to what most girls on there ask for.

I think you must be going after the low hanging fruits, cause the good looking ones tend to ask for much more.

Hi Toysrus and thanks for your thoughts. I'm not sure if we can post photos on the site? I'm new to Au99 so don't want to breach site rules in my infancy.

I answered the PPM vs allowance question above. Something I forgot to mention is that I don't ever assume that PPMs are fixed. The most I have paid for a one off sex meet is $500 + the dinner we had that evening. My usual is $400 PPM and if she becomes a regular, I will aim to work to take that down to $300. I usually have one SB sex meet a week (4-6 hours) as I don't have the time for more and I get more value out of a longer session with one person than 2-3 sessions with multiple girls a week. What about you?

About pricing The market, particularly in Sydney has changed over the past six months, and there are a number of girls who are real chancers. The asks in many cases are just pure speculation. I just let them go. The more a woman is putting out in her public photos, the more hits she is getting from SDs and the more crazy the prices she will hearing. I am not on the site to be a price benchmark for her to maximise her revenue. Melbourne - the market is about 20% lower on PPM expectations and is in line with the GC and Brisbane. I should say that I punt across all states when borders are not sealed off, as I travel for business purposes.

I also never, ever talk PPM on SA / SDM and preferably only in person at a pre-meet.

Re low hanging fruit, I can't comment unless we share pics on our phones over a glass of wine? :-). In my search criteria I only look at slim or athletic profiles, 22 - 32. As I said, I avoid all the ones who are putting out. I'm not looking for professional sex workers or speculators.

What is your experience?

[BennyB]

My thoughts too, I pay $750 pw, ++ for one exclusive arrangement.
She probably costs me closer to $1k per week, when you factor in food, clothes, electricity etc, and she gets to use a car. She is with me 75% of the time, the rest she is at her parents at Tamworth.

Thanks for sharing that. I think it all comes down to the experience you want to have. I'm not looking for an exclusive arrangement as I prefer the variety, but respect what you have. It sounds a bit more like a relationship - is that how you see it?

[Riff888]

Do you have spare sheets or towel in the boot for car sex? Sometimes it can come in handy if the girl is a squirter and it's dark inside the car because you don't want to turn on the light.Nah, just wet wipes [emoji1787]

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[Jamit]

Hi Toysrus and thanks for your thoughts. I'm not sure if we can post photos on the site? I'm new to Au99 so don't want to breach site rules in my infancy.

I answered the PPM vs allowance question above. Something I forgot to mention is that I don't ever assume that PPMs are fixed. The most I have paid for a one off sex meet is $500 + the dinner we had that evening. My usual is $400 PPM and if she becomes a regular, I will aim to work to take that down to $300. I usually have one SB sex meet a week (4-6 hours) as I don't have the time for more and I get more value out of a longer session with one person than 2-3 sessions with multiple girls a week. What about you?

About pricing The market, particularly in Sydney has changed over the past six months, and there are a number of girls who are real chancers. The asks in many cases are just pure speculation. I just let them go. The more a woman is putting out in her public photos, the more hits she is getting from SDs and the more crazy the prices she will hearing. I am not on the site to be a price benchmark for her to maximise her revenue. Melbourne - the market is about 20% lower on PPM expectations and is in line with the GC and Brisbane. I should say that I punt across all states when borders are not sealed off, as I travel for business purposes.

I also never, ever talk PPM on SA / SDM and preferably only in person at a pre-meet.

Re low hanging fruit, I can't comment unless we share pics on our phones over a glass of wine? :-). In my search criteria I only look at slim or athletic profiles, 22 - 32. As I said, I avoid all the ones who are putting out. I'm not looking for professional sex workers or speculators.

What is your experience?

Wow. Life in Australia is so financialised these days. No more punching above your weight due to luck or charm. Rather you are expected to pass due diligence before any one off or recurrent interfacing.

Forever thus. Remember reading Wild Swans and struck by the Chinese general who supported 32 concubines as well as his knowing wife

[BennyB]

Full credit to the guys here that can maintain the weekly arrangements here! Particularly Riff, juscruisin, Crusader who have struck gold!

For a different perspective I’m more of a PPM guy, and usually limit it to once a month and have two girls from SA that I’m actively in touch with and rotate between the two. I have too many commitments at home to sustain an ongoing arrangement and I would feel obliged to have to schedule time to meet them and that’s not as fun as the spontaneous PPM nature. It will still allow me to visit shops in between and have a bit of variety. That’s just me personally and of course everyone’s boat floats differently.

It’s definitely a bitch to find the right girl on SA weeding through all the crap and finding one that you like and it works both ways for the girls as well. The girls I’m touch with are not stunners but the chemistry and GFE more than makes up for it and nothing a shop girl can replicate without 000s in investment - but there was a good few months lead time to go all the way. SA girls I’ve chatted are more inclined to go with westerners as they are less likely to be attached and they are straight to the point to make a transaction happen and more likely to be generous, and Sydney’s definitely a tougher market compared other cities like Brisbane.

That being said I’m open to new opportunities and have signed up with RHP and SDM to see what it’s like. SDM looks promising and better value than SA.

Happy to share experiences over DM

It sounds like you have a good groove going and it is fitting in with your lifestyle, which I always think it should. I agree that it can be a process panning for gold on the Sugarbabe sites. Unlike some of the other dating sites, there is generally a clear expectation that we are paying for sex without any strings attached (apart from the small number of doe-eyed bambi types who think guy will hand out banknotes for their charming company...) so that helps.

I quite enjoy the banter on SA / SDM?

[BennyB]

Wow. Life in Australia is so financialised these days. No more punching above your weight due to luck or charm. Rather you are expected to pass due diligence before any one off or recurrent interfacing.

Forever thus. Remember reading Wild Swans and struck by the Chinese general who supported 32 concubines as well as his knowing wife

I've had some experiences where it becomes FWB and about experiences - a day spa, restaurants they want to go to, tickets to things, weekends away. I have not read Wild Swans, but it sounds like there may be some good lessons in it. Presumably the General had more than just luck or charm going for him?

[juscruisin58]

Thanks for sharing that. I think it all comes down to the experience you want to have. I'm not looking for an exclusive arrangement as I prefer the variety, but respect what you have. It sounds a bit more like a relationship - is that how you see it?

I guess when I met Violet, and worked out she was a bit different to the others I'd met, I became a bit greedy and decided I was going to keep her to myself.
Mmm relationship ?? Good question, because we have been seeing each other for nearly 2 years and it could be seen as a De Facto relationship and all the hassles that go with that if we were to split, we are entering into a written agreement.
I think she'd be open to a relationship, Ive just got to get my head around it.
In the mean time we have become very close friends.

[BennyB]

I guess when I met Violet, and worked out she was a bit different to the others I'd met, I became a bit greedy and decided I was going to keep her to myself.
Mmm relationship ?? Good question, because we have been seeing each other for nearly 2 years and it could be seen as a De Facto relationship and all the hassles that go with that if we were to split, we are entering into a written agreement.
I think she'd be open to a relationship, Ive just got to get my head around it.
In the mean time we have become very close friends.

It sounds like you are in a good place. I assume you have no private home life to contend with? Does she have a career of her own?

[TheHonDominicPinochet]

It sounds like you are in a good place. I assume you have no private home life to contend with? Does she have a career of her own?

This sounds like a good place??? This sb thing sounds pretty fucked to me. And guys complaining that these girls are just in it for the money need to take a good look at themselves!

[juscruisin58]

It sounds like you are in a good place. I assume you have no private home life to contend with? Does she have a career of her own?

Yeah, in a good place in life finally.
Nup, no private home life to worry about, been divorced 10 yrs and my 2 adult daughters are estranged.
My SB finished a degree in Criminal Psychology last year and is having a year off before starting her Masters and then on to a Phd, with my full support.

[juscruisin58]

This sounds like a good place??? This sb thing sounds pretty fucked to me. And guys complaining that these girls are just in it for the money need to take a good look at themselves!

I'd like to understand on what real world experience and research you base your comments.

[BennyB]

Yeah, in a good place in life finally.
Nup, no private home life to worry about, been divorced 10 yrs and my 2 adult daughters are estranged.
My SB finished a degree in Criminal Psychology last year and is having a year off before starting her Masters and then on to a Phd, with my full support.

I'm sorry to hear about the past. I have my own story, so can empathise.

It sounds like you are both aligned in your thinking about the current arrangement you have?

The women I look to date on the SB sites are the ones who have their own independent lives and see this as a bit of a fun distraction on the side. I don't see any reason why an arrangement can't become a relationship - life is mutable and so are the interactions we have with the people who we choose to spend our time with. As long as you are both honest and open with the hopes and fears you have? We all need a little kindness and empathy for each other if we are treading a path that not everyone else understands.

As for peanut gallery comments on here - I did notice you respond. I generally avoid the gaslighters who want to start an argument. That's not why I am here.

[colin.oscopy]

I am in my mid 50s and very well presented as I am a swimmer. Prior to covid I had regular Asian girls girlfriends between 19 and 30 with most of them being overseas students. I guess in a way I was a sugar daddy but money was never exchanged. I was even dating 2 friends who were comfortable with that.

I occasionally dined them and took them to movies and other outings. Occasionally I would assist them with university work such as maths or proof reading. Never once did I pay for anything and infact one of them was rich that she would pay everything including buying me an LV bag.

Most of them have moved on and settled down here or in china but still keep in contact. I have probably dated over 50 students but occasionally I did punt also at times because I did enjoy the idea of pay and go.
Since covid things have been quiet but I have adjusted. Say safe

[dotcumdotinyou]

You just need to be careful, 2 years together is generally when its accepted as a defacto relationship BUT there are circumstances where the court could rule that its less than 2 years for a property settlement. Could be entering a mine field.

[rooter]

I don’t get the sugar daddy thing.
Seems to me like it has all the disadvantages of relationships and punting without any of the benefits.
It’s basically prostitution, no matter how much you sugar coat it, but without the benefits of prostitution.
And it has all the hassles of a relationship but without the benefits of a genuine relationship.

[Vader]

You just need to be careful, 2 years together is generally when its accepted as a defacto relationship BUT there are circumstances where the court could rule that its less than 2 years for a property settlement. Could be entering a mine field.

You don't even have to live together and the 2 years you talk about went out the window years ago.

[dotcumdotinyou]

That's why I said you could be entering a mine field, especially older SDs with assets.

[Double_Adapter]

I don’t get the sugar daddy thing.
Seems to me like it has all the disadvantages of relationships and punting without any of the benefits.
It’s basically prostitution, no matter how much you sugar coat it, but without the benefits of prostitution.
And it has all the hassles of a relationship but without the benefits of a genuine relationship.

+1

You hit the nail on the head Mr Rooter, it’s a form of prostitution with a sugar twist added to it.
Sugar Babies, Sugar Daddies, Sugar Mamma’s, Gold Diggers etc is known as acculturated prostitution in the manosphere world ie an indirect form of prostitution which sidesteps any stigmas associated with the direct form of prostitution ie is seen as more socially acceptable. Ultimately no woman/man wants to be labelled a whore or a prostitute so calling it a SB, SD, SM has a more appealing ring to it and is socially acceptable.

Either way we are all prostitutes in some kind of way, we sell our health, bodies, skills, abilities, talents, intelligence for money so we can make a living.

An interesting thread with great and insightful contributions from all members….

[cuteguy]

+1

You hit the nail on the head Mr Rooter, it’s a form of prostitution with a sugar twist added to it.
Sugar Babies, Sugar Daddies, Sugar Mamma’s, Gold Diggers etc is known as acculturated prostitution in the manosphere world ie an indirect form of prostitution which sidesteps any stigmas associated with the direct form of prostitution ie is seen as more socially acceptable. Ultimately no woman/man wants to be labelled a whore or a prostitute so calling it a SB, SD, SM has a more appealing ring to it and is socially acceptable.

Either way we are all prostitutes in some kind of way, we sell our health, bodies, skills, abilities, talents, intelligence for money so we can make a living.

An interesting thread with great and insightful contributions from all members….

Of course it is a form of prostitution where there is an exchange of payment for services. The person providing the service will always deny they are working as a prostitute. Some will say they don't provide any sexual service. Would the person receiving the service not want to have sexual service from the person providing the service? Highly unlikely unless you're old and something doesn't work downstairs. Anyway these service providers want to glamorise this concept of providing a service to a person that requires it but at the same time, do not want to be labelled as a WL or prostitute. They won't change my opinion.

[Sibon]

Whatever the arrangement as long as the man and the girl are happy it's a happy match (at least to me).

One day I hope to have an opportunity to have tea with juscruisin58 and his SB and see for my own eyes this happy couple. I'm an eternal romantic and optimistic. I think their relationship could see through until and beyond his SB getting her PhD.

[Double_Adapter]

Whatever the arrangement as long as the man and the girl are happy it's a happy match (at least to me).

One day I hope to have an opportunity to have tea with juscruisin58 and his SB and see for my own eyes this happy couple. I'm an eternal romantic and optimistic. I think their relationship could see through until and beyond his SB getting her PhD.

I think everybody here wants a happy ending. Though some are after that elusive fairytale ending ergo why this forum exists.

[Joejohnson8]

Anyone seen that sugar dating doc on Stan? There was an Indian scammer who took advantage of the girls with bouncing payments and relies on them being too ashamed to report it. Apparently serial

[storry_teller]

Anyone seen that sugar dating doc on Stan? There was an Indian scammer who took advantage of the girls with bouncing payments and relies on them being too ashamed to report it. Apparently serial

Such a scumbag!

[GoldfishMan]

You just need to be careful, 2 years together is generally when its accepted as a defacto relationship BUT there are circumstances where the court could rule that its less than 2 years for a property settlement. Could be entering a mine field.
It’s not so straightforward as “she or he was your de facto partner therefore they get half of everything”. The other party has to prove that simply being in the relationship, having to handle whatever responsibilities she’s been given for the household (such as raising a child), has resulted in her not being able to support herself once she has left the relationship. In other words, she must prove that she has become completely reliant on the relationship to live. This is easily provable for a person who used to work but then left the workforce at some point for the family, not so easy for a person who’s never worked or hardly ever did.

But I agree about it being a legal minefield. Best not to even have to deal with it.

[BennyB]

I am in my mid 50s and very well presented as I am a swimmer. Prior to covid I had regular Asian girls girlfriends between 19 and 30 with most of them being overseas students. I guess in a way I was a sugar daddy but money was never exchanged. I was even dating 2 friends who were comfortable with that.

I occasionally dined them and took them to movies and other outings. Occasionally I would assist them with university work such as maths or proof reading. Never once did I pay for anything and infact one of them was rich that she would pay everything including buying me an LV bag.

Most of them have moved on and settled down here or in china but still keep in contact. I have probably dated over 50 students but occasionally I did punt also at times because I did enjoy the idea of pay and go.
Since covid things have been quiet but I have adjusted. Say safe

Those sound like interesting stories and more like what the original concept of a SugarDaddy was meant to be. Where do you find your supply of students out of curiosity?

[BennyB]

There are a few questions around why Sugarbabes? Why not just pick a GF or a professional SW?

For those who are interested, I’ll give you my take on it from the perspective of 3 years of pretty much full time Sugarbabe punting.

Firstly, I am not exclusive with anyone and I will never aim to be. I do currently have more than one Sugarbabe I see and prefer to keep it that way.

Before I came across Sugarbabes, I spent much of my hard earned cash on Locanto, Frontpage, E&B and Scarlet Blue. I experienced the highs and the lows of these platforms and while I did have some good experiences, my punts were largely hit and miss. "Thats why it's punting" I would be told with a knowing shrug. But what if it did not have to be?

What led me down the path of Sugarbabes was an experience I had in Canada back in 2018. It with an Agency girl who had been in the game for all of a week. We spent a raunchy, sex fueled long-weekend for comparatively very little money. It wasn't a one hour escort hook-up and it wasn't an affair. It was like a hybrid of the two and I frankly wanted more experiences like it. As I’m married, I don’t want the risks of an affair, but I like 4+ hour sessions and it’s too expensive to do that with Caucasian privates. So what other options were out there?

After my trip abroad, I jumped back into the world of private escorts and brothels as that was all I knew in Australia. I found myself bumping up against three nagging disappointments:

Time clock and rate card - Sex with a private or in a brothel is all about the rate card and the clock. You cannot escape them. I personally prefer longer experiences where two people are immersed in their fun and the pricing is not dependent on time. Call me old fashioned, but I like a little wine, seduction and foreplay before multiple rounds of sex. I also like to shower and cuddle together with a gorgeous, interesting woman afterwards.

The bait and switch - its happened so many times with escorts for me to go back. I find it's not just in the Asian market anymore as anyone can photoshop their images, or post a photo of themselves from an old photo shoot. I like to meet a woman for a coffee, or a drink before deciding if we are both attracted to each other enough to want to go ahead and sleep with each other.

The sex worker routine - being in a queue of guys a WL is servicing that day, the wet shower doormat from the previous guy, health checks, taking my money before the service is provided, setting the clock by the bedside table, upselling me in the middle of it, the half hearted kissing (DFK anyone?), trying to get me to cum as quick as she can. These are all passion killers for me.

If you ask "Why bother with Sugarbabes - I could just have an affair?" or, “I could go onto Tinder for that and get it for free?”, well those are good questions and these are my responses:

1. Competition - There is more male competition in a bar than on a Sugarbabe platform. When you are over 40, picking up a 20-something hot woman in a bar is no longer as easy as it used to be. Even if you are under 40, you are up against a lot of competition. On the Sugarbabe platforms its 4:1 (girls to guys) and that's worth thinking about.​
​
2. It's not a relationship - Dating Sugarbabes is not like having an affair and I’m thankful for that. Having an affair would be disastrous for me - I would probably fall in love, or get caught. I’m a romantic and like to play that role in my arrangements. Most Sugarbabes, if properly vetted, are not looking to be your mistress or your next relationship. You set the consensual boundaries that work for you and that forms the basis of your arrangement. How many 20-something girls have you met in a bar who are looking for a no-strings, no-risk affair with a 40+ guy?​

3. Tinder and other dating sites are too risky - I’ve found too many friends and co-workers on these sites. If you are married or partnered, you can’t run the risk of showing your face. It’s counterproductive as, if you don’t show your face, then its assumed you are just looking for a hook-up or an affair. On Sugarbabe platforms, the women don’t expect you to show your face as they know the deal and they understand your need for discretion.​

In summary I see that the Sugarbabe platforms offer me this:

1. discretion;
2. a regular stream of new, hot young women that I can authenticate in person before I spend;
3. A fun, lighthearted and potentially ongoing connection without a relationship; and
4. Great value for money when I’m spending 4-6 hours with them (and sometimes away on business trips for days at a time)

It may not be for everyone, but for me I have had a lot of fun over the years and still am. I just wish I had figured this out earlier in my life.

[Vader]

It’s not so straightforward as “she or he was your de facto partner therefore they get half of everything”. The other party has to prove that simply being in the relationship, having to handle whatever responsibilities she’s been given for the household (such as raising a child), has resulted in her not being able to support herself once she has left the relationship. In other words, she must prove that she has become completely reliant on the relationship to live. This is easily provable for a person who used to work but then left the workforce at some point for the family, not so easy for a person who’s never worked or hardly ever did.

But I agree about it being a legal minefield. Best not to even have to deal with it.

Some of what you are saying here Mr GFM is incorrect under the law.

[BlackToad]

I don’t get the sugar daddy thing.
Seems to me like it has all the disadvantages of relationships and punting without any of the benefits.
It’s basically prostitution, no matter how much you sugar coat it, but without the benefits of prostitution.
And it has all the hassles of a relationship but without the benefits of a genuine relationship.

This is exactly correct. It’s like hiring a WL specifically so they can be a pain the arse for you.

[kiddoh]

There are a few questions around why Sugarbabes? Why not just pick a GF or a professional SW?

For those who are interested, I’ll give you my take on it from the perspective of 3 years of pretty much full time Sugarbabe punting.

Firstly, I am not exclusive with anyone and I will never aim to be. I do currently have more than one Sugarbabe I see and prefer to keep it that way.

Before I came across Sugarbabes, I spent much of my hard earned cash on Locanto, Frontpage, E&B and Scarlet Blue. I experienced the highs and the lows of these platforms and while I did have some good experiences, my punts were largely hit and miss. "Thats why it's punting" I would be told with a knowing shrug. But what if it did not have to be?

What led me down the path of Sugarbabes was an experience I had in Canada back in 2018. It with an Agency girl who had been in the game for all of a week. We spent a raunchy, sex fueled long-weekend for comparatively very little money. It wasn't a one hour escort hook-up and it wasn't an affair. It was like a hybrid of the two and I frankly wanted more experiences like it. As I’m married, I don’t want the risks of an affair, but I like 4+ hour sessions and it’s too expensive to do that with Caucasian privates. So what other options were out there?

After my trip abroad, I jumped back into the world of private escorts and brothels as that was all I knew in Australia. I found myself bumping up against three nagging disappointments:

Time clock and rate card - Sex with a private or in a brothel is all about the rate card and the clock. You cannot escape them. I personally prefer longer experiences where two people are immersed in their fun and the pricing is not dependent on time. Call me old fashioned, but I like a little wine, seduction and foreplay before multiple rounds of sex. I also like to shower and cuddle together with a gorgeous, interesting woman afterwards.

The bait and switch - its happened so many times with escorts for me to go back. I find it's not just in the Asian market anymore as anyone can photoshop their images, or post a photo of themselves from an old photo shoot. I like to meet a woman for a coffee, or a drink before deciding if we are both attracted to each other enough to want to go ahead and sleep with each other.

The sex worker routine - being in a queue of guys a WL is servicing that day, the wet shower doormat from the previous guy, health checks, taking my money before the service is provided, setting the clock by the bedside table, upselling me in the middle of it, the half hearted kissing (DFK anyone?), trying to get me to cum as quick as she can. These are all passion killers for me.

If you ask "Why bother with Sugarbabes - I could just have an affair?" or, “I could go onto Tinder for that and get it for free?”, well those are good questions and these are my responses:

1. Competition - There is more male competition in a bar than on a Sugarbabe platform. When you are over 40, picking up a 20-something hot woman in a bar is no longer as easy as it used to be. Even if you are under 40, you are up against a lot of competition. On the Sugarbabe platforms its 4:1 (girls to guys) and that's worth thinking about.​
​
2. It's not a relationship - Dating Sugarbabes is not like having an affair and I’m thankful for that. Having an affair would be disastrous for me - I would probably fall in love, or get caught. I’m a romantic and like to play that role in my arrangements. Most Sugarbabes, if properly vetted, are not looking to be your mistress or your next relationship. You set the consensual boundaries that work for you and that forms the basis of your arrangement. How many 20-something girls have you met in a bar who are looking for a no-strings, no-risk affair with a 40+ guy?​

3. Tinder and other dating sites are too risky - I’ve found too many friends and co-workers on these sites. If you are married or partnered, you can’t run the risk of showing your face. It’s counterproductive as, if you don’t show your face, then its assumed you are just looking for a hook-up or an affair. On Sugarbabe platforms, the women don’t expect you to show your face as they know the deal and they understand your need for discretion.​

In summary I see that the Sugarbabe platforms offer me this:

1. discretion;
2. a regular stream of new, hot young women that I can authenticate in person before I spend;
3. A fun, lighthearted and potentially ongoing connection without a relationship; and
4. Great value for money when I’m spending 4-6 hours with them (and sometimes away on business trips for days at a time)

It may not be for everyone, but for me I have had a lot of fun over the years and still am. I just wish I had figured this out earlier in my life.

Another elaborate viewpoint! Guess we have lot of SDs here.

I do agree it’s all about the experience we want to have… I do trend to extend the session to have some good fun but that’s me It’s always a hit or miss not sure with SBs

Has anyone faced any issues. All we are hearing is a good case scenario!!

[BennyB]

I had some sub par experiences when I first started out. Sometimes paid too much (in hindsight), or tried to go straight to sex without a pre-meet because I was so eager and then found out the girl wasn’t compatible in bed. It’s all experience. The book I mentioned previously was really helpful.

[konfuzion]

I had some sub par experiences when I first started out. Sometimes paid too much (in hindsight), or tried to go straight to sex without a pre-meet because I was so eager and then found out the girl wasn’t compatible in bed. It’s all experience. The book I mentioned previously was really helpful.
You only post about sugar baby you work for tnt and want to sell subscribe and book???

[BennyB]

You only post about sugar baby you work for tnt and want to sell subscribe and book???

What a strange accusation. I don’t work for anyone. I do have my own business, but I can’t offer you a job sorry.

I’m a member of lots of forums - here in Australia and in the UK and Canada. Where ever I have worked and lived, I have punted and joined forums.

Every forum I am a member of, I joined for free and have freely contributed. I actually posted on other subjects here as well - about ten other threads but got no real responses. The most interest has been on this thread. I’ve responded to the questions I have been asked and in great detail. What have you contributed to the discussion?

Every book I have purchased on dating women and dating Sugarbabes, I have paid for - in hard copy or eBook. I just happen to recommend this one particular book as it helped me get better at Sugarbabe punting when there was very little other information out there (and the stuff I’ve bought on Amazon was either crap or unsuited to the Australian market).

As I explained above, I used to punt in a lot of brothels and with privates. I came on here looking for more Sugarbabe intel and to share my own experiences. I think I’ve been pretty open about why I punt Sugarbabes and what helped me. If you’re interested in Sugarbabes, then feel free to use my advice. If not, feel free to ignore it.

What is your Sugarbabe experience and what can you constructively contribute, if anything, to this conversation?

[konfuzion]

What a strange accusation. I don’t work for anyone. I do have my own business, but I can’t offer you a job sorry.

I’m a member of lots of forums - here in Australia and in the UK and Canada. Where ever I have worked and lived, I have punted and joined forums.

Every forum I am a member of, I joined for free and have freely contributed. I actually posted on other subjects here as well - about ten other threads but got no real responses. The most interest has been on this thread. I’ve responded to the questions I have been asked and in great detail. What have you contributed to the discussion?

Every book I have purchased on dating women and dating Sugarbabes, I have paid for - in hard copy or eBook. I just happen to recommend this one particular book as it helped me get better at Sugarbabe punting when there was very little other information out there (and the stuff I’ve bought on Amazon was either crap or unsuited to the Australian market).

As I explained above, I used to punt in a lot of brothels and with privates. I came on here looking for more Sugarbabe intel and to share my own experiences. I think I’ve been pretty open about why I punt Sugarbabes and what helped me. If you’re interested in Sugarbabes, then feel free to use my advice. If not, feel free to ignore it.

What is your Sugarbabe experience and what can you constructively contribute, if anything, to this conversation?
This wl/ml bro you have any Intel on that?

[BennyB]

Out of courtesy, I will PM you. Happy to share intel with you if you would like to share with me.

[GoldfishMan]

Some of what you are saying here Mr GFM is incorrect under the law.
Nope, I stand by what I said. It's all here:
https://www.unifiedlawyers.com.au/blog/de-facto-relationship-guide-nsw/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAoY-PBhCNARIsABcz771oGxWSasjGj-l4KQGTAX7pPxJOF0EYyY3r9s770nt-ra4FVbaYzPMaAkMIEALw_wcB#what-does-genuine-domestic-basis-mean-c32a4a69-60d1-4672-9ee2-38fdb5cd425a

Still there's no denying it's a complete shithouse situation to go through. Better not even be in it if you don't intend to stay in it.

[hungry4love007]

Sugerdaddymeet.com any good?

Seems asking for number and name and address for payment.

Looks like dodgy site to be honest.

Cheap thought 50 usd 1 month .

[BennyB]

SugarDaddyMeet.com is the smaller of the two main Sugarbabe sites.

The pricing is lower, but I find my hit rate is not as strong as it is on Seeking.com

I use both sites - I actually have more than one profile on Seeking as well as a profile on SDM.

[hungry4love007]

SugarDaddyMeet.com is the smaller of the two main Sugarbabe sites.

The pricing is lower, but I find my hit rate is not as strong as it is on Seeking.com

I use both sites - I actually have more than one profile on Seeking as well as a profile on SDM.

I have free account on SA now. Thinking to go full on now after all the discussion.

Fingers crossed.

[BennyB]

Free account is good for looking at what is on the site. You can’t talk to anyone with a free account though.

Good luck and feel free to reach out.

[BennyB]

This wl/ml bro you have any Intel on that?

Yes.

I’ve submitted a review of a WL. Do you have any to share?

[konfuzion]

Yes “bro”

I’ve actually submitted a review of a WL. You should go see her - she’s great.

You have been on this forum since 2018 and I can’t see any of your reviews “bro” - please send me the links.

Only in pm to punter but why you review girl in tas 555

[BennyB]

Only in pm to punter


ok - Let's get back to the Sugarbabe conversation, which is why everyone else is here.

[hungry4love007]

Free account is good for looking at what is on the site. You can’t talk to anyone with a free account though.

Good luck and feel free to reach out.

Thanks mate. Pm'ed you.

[BennyB]

Thanks mate. Pm'ed you.

Happy to share and best of luck

[gthgrt]

Hi @clausedd I've been sugar dating for some time. I am married and my wife is no longer interested in sex (new mum). I could go onto Tinder, or pick up girls in a bar, but I prefer this kind of dating as it allows me to keep things at arms length and have the illusion of a hot affair, with clear boundaries in place. I think of it as a step beyond a WL / ML that you see privately. I've tried that in the past and actively avoid it. Invariably you end up becoming someone's ATM and it ends in tears.

At the same time, I am not looking for just one woman to have an arrangement with. I love women and I enjoy variety. You could go down the approach of being with someone exclusively, but then you have to ask yourself what the purpose of the arrangement really is. Are you looking for a GF? If so, it is possible for an arrangement to turn into a relationship, but it is not common.

This leads me to your question on PPM vs. allowance. I've had girls on allowances ($1,000 per month) where, after 5-6 meets I'm convinced I want to see her 3-4 times a month and have a more sensible financial deal. Otherwise I prefer to start with PPM as it de-risks the arrangement on both sides.

As with timing - there are ways to build flexibility into your life and work, if you are prepared to think strategically. I'm married, with kids and work 50 hour weeks as a consultant. I usually punt twice a week in that timeframe (1 SB meet and 1 RNT)

Since your place is off limits, where do you usually meet? Their place or a hotel?

[BennyB]

Since your place is off limits, where do you usually meet? Their place or a hotel?

Hi Gthgrt

A couple of things on this -

I never ever punt close to where I live and I never bring a SB to my home. If I was single, I might do this but only if I was comfortable with the individual over a period of time. It would be the same as inviting any woman back to your house?

The alternatives for me are

1. I have sugar babies I meet up with when I am interstate on business. I am usually in hotels or Airbnbs on those trips anyway

2. I use hotels or Airbnbs - there are lots of options for short stays (not quite the Japanese Love hotel style) on the web and it's pretty easy once you get to know the hotel management. I have one particular hotel I use when I'm in Melbourne on business and I get a room for 4 hours for $50 for example. Airbnbs were really cheap during the past six months as there was no business in city

3. I usually look for Sugarbabes who will, over time, take me back to their place. This is why pre-meets and being the kind of guy she wants to bring home to hers is so important. I'm not looking for a fuck at the back of a shop when its closed (although I can understand there may be a bit of fun in that)

I hope this helps.

Bb

[Vader]

Nope, I stand by what I said. It's all here:
https://www.unifiedlawyers.com.au/blog/de-facto-relationship-guide-nsw/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAoY-PBhCNARIsABcz771oGxWSasjGj-l4KQGTAX7pPxJOF0EYyY3r9s770nt-ra4FVbaYzPMaAkMIEALw_wcB#what-does-genuine-domestic-basis-mean-c32a4a69-60d1-4672-9ee2-38fdb5cd425a

Still there's no denying it's a complete shithouse situation to go through. Better not even be in it if you don't intend to stay in it.

That is only a vague overview. A good lawyer will shoot holes all through this. Most people like you think it is black and white but family law is very complicated.

[Johnisfun1969]

I am in my mid 50s and very well presented as I am a swimmer. Prior to covid I had regular Asian girls girlfriends between 19 and 30 with most of them being overseas students. I guess in a way I was a sugar daddy but money was never exchanged. I was even dating 2 friends who were comfortable with that.

I occasionally dined them and took them to movies and other outings. Occasionally I would assist them with university work such as maths or proof reading. Never once did I pay for anything and infact one of them was rich that she would pay everything including buying me an LV bag.

Most of them have moved on and settled down here or in china but still keep in contact. I have probably dated over 50 students but occasionally I did punt also at times because I did enjoy the idea of pay and go.
Since covid things have been quiet but I have adjusted. Say safe


Wow thats great feedback. Mate I tried to send you DM but since you are new member the message did not go. I had similar arrangent and experience but that was in South East Asia. I am still in touch with few of them and send them occcasional gifts. Since Covid I have not been able to travel and deprived of the company of young and friendly asian girls. Would you mind sharing how you meet these girls. The seeking arranagement looks inetresting but they do not have many asian girls.

Thanks in advance.

[juscruisin58]

That is only a vague overview. A good lawyer will shoot holes all through this. Most people like you think it is black and white but family law is very complicated.

You are absolutely correct.
I am currently having a legally binding agreement drawn up that will protect myself and my SB.
My familyaw Sicitor has been very specific in such that the law applies to individual situations and is not just a blanket cover so to speak.
Now our situation, having been SD/SB for 18 months and now looking to go longer term at least for another 2 yrs, and our intentions for her to live with me permanently adds further complexity.
We have also discussed the possibility that this will go from the current arrangement to a more "conventional" relationship and the implications that brings to the table.
In our scenario, I want to protect her as much as protect myself, and in that respect, and the provisions of the Family Law Act I have been advised to update my will as well, especially as my estranged Daughters need to be either included or excluded.
It is a minefield and you need someone experienced and knowledgeable to navigate through the minefield.

[Riff888]

You are absolutely correct.
I am currently having a legally binding agreement drawn up that will protect myself and my SB.
My familyaw Sicitor has been very specific in such that the law applies to individual situations and is not just a blanket cover so to speak.
Now our situation, having been SD/SB for 18 months and now looking to go longer term at least for another 2 yrs, and our intentions for her to live with me permanently adds further complexity.
We have also discussed the possibility that this will go from the current arrangement to a more "conventional" relationship and the implications that brings to the table.
In our scenario, I want to protect her as much as protect myself, and in that respect, and the provisions of the Family Law Act I have been advised to update my will as well, especially as my estranged Daughters need to be either included or excluded.
It is a minefield and you need someone experienced and knowledgeable to navigate through the minefield.I had a binding financial agreement with my first ex wife.

Be careful, they are not as binding as they are in the US.

In my case the agreement was in her favour and we went to court.

After a large cost to both of us, I won the case and the agreement was broken.

I have no assents in my name. I live in the city and renting, my car is leased. The only thing is my super which is quite high since I made additional contributions in my 20s.

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[Sibon]

Wow thats great feedback. Mate I tried to send you DM but since you are new member the message did not go. I had similar arrangent and experience but that was in South East Asia. I am still in touch with few of them and send them occcasional gifts. Since Covid I have not been able to travel and deprived of the company of young and friendly asian girls. Would you mind sharing how you meet these girls. The seeking arranagement looks inetresting but they do not have many asian girls.

Thanks in advance.

Asiandating.com

[GoldfishMan]

That is only a vague overview. A good lawyer will shoot holes all through this. Most people like you think it is black and white but family law is very complicated.

You’re so weird, Vader. The first phrase in my post yesterday was “It’s not straightforward…”. I even gave a link to a lawyer blog explaining why it’s not as clear cut. Lo and behold you say to me “people like you think it’s black and white”?. W-T-F man…

[BennyB]

Guys - if you want to set up a separate legal discussion thread, that's fine. Should we keep this thread to the topic that the OP raised - being how to date Sugarbabes?

I think the initial comments were relevant about being careful of slipping into de facto arrangements, but getting into family law matters is a stretch.

[cumquat]

an on off again SB known nmeaxh other since late 2018. Not HD sex for awhile caught up at her asking recently . dinner movie stuff . And I got bored having too listen to why she deserves all this stuff and can she do an arrangement with no sex .. I gently said with me no .. maybe some. Other guy might like your sparkling conversation and be happy to rub suntan lotion on her cute af 20yr old Body …

Told her likely most arrangents will want some gratification .. she then asked if I would help her buy a car … she wanted me to take a 40k loan for her

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Not heard since

[kiddoh]

Wow... 40K loan to start with..... Definitely a red sign...

[Ziggurat]

Guys - if you want to set up a separate legal discussion thread, that's fine. Should we keep this thread to the topic that the OP raised - being how to date Sugarbabes?

I think the initial comments were relevant about being careful of slipping into de facto arrangements, but getting into family law matters is a stretch.

There is no shortage of bandwidth in the thread to exhaust both topics. One doesn't come at the expense of the other. If someone thinks of a new angle or experience specifically on the SB experience, previous comments on related legal implications isn't going to stop them posting it. You are more interested in one subject rather than the other but don't worry about it. :D

[BennyB]

an on off again SB known nmeaxh other since late 2018. Not HD sex for awhile caught up at her asking recently . dinner movie stuff . And I got bored having too listen to why she deserves all this stuff and can she do an arrangement with no sex .. I gently said with me no .. maybe some. Other guy might like your sparkling conversation and be happy to rub suntan lotion on her cute af 20yr old Body …

Told her likely most arrangents will want some gratification .. she then asked if I would help her buy a car … she wanted me to take a 40k loan for her

��������

Not heard since

That's such a great story. You could reply

"If I wanted to have dinner, moves, dates with no sex and having to buy a $40k car for someone, I would just get married"

[BennyB]

There is no shortage of bandwidth in the thread to exhaust both topics. One doesn't come at the expense of the other. If someone thinks of a new angle or experience specifically on the SB experience previous comments on related legal implications isn't going to stop them posting it. You are more interested in one rather than the other but don't worry about it. :D

I welcome the conversation taking different turns. But when it descends into a shit fight, is it informing anyone?

[Ziggurat]

You are on the wrong forum if you want to avoid seeing shit fights. :shout:

[BennyB]

You are on the wrong forum if you want to avoid seeing shit fights. :shout:

Haha. I'll get the popcorn then :-)

[yug]

an on off again SB known nmeaxh other since late 2018. Not HD sex for awhile caught up at her asking recently . dinner movie stuff . And I got bored having too listen to why she deserves all this stuff and can she do an arrangement with no sex .. I gently said with me no .. maybe some. Other guy might like your sparkling conversation and be happy to rub suntan lotion on her cute af 20yr old Body …

Told her likely most arrangents will want some gratification .. she then asked if I would help her buy a car … she wanted me to take a 40k loan for her

��������

Not heard since

Hahaha.
I would laugh at her face and walk away laughing.

I have seen few girls on seeking arrangement who openly say: I can only give companionship so please don't ask for sex.
One girl even had this on her profile: "Why are guys in here so ugly?"

And a number of girls are in an open relationship, even Asian girls.

[cuteguy]

an on off again SB known nmeaxh other since late 2018. Not HD sex for awhile caught up at her asking recently . dinner movie stuff . And I got bored having too listen to why she deserves all this stuff and can she do an arrangement with no sex .. I gently said with me no .. maybe some. Other guy might like your sparkling conversation and be happy to rub suntan lotion on her cute af 20yr old Body …

Told her likely most arrangents will want some gratification .. she then asked if I would help her buy a car … she wanted me to take a 40k loan for her

��������

Not heard since

Many are accustomed to being spoiled and given the high life that they would never afford in normal jobs. As a result, they have this expectation that it is all normal. Imagine asking a good friend to take out a 40k loan for you? It is unlikely to occur. Some of these girls believe men are dumb or gullible to do favours for them and they are right. How many other guys has she asked favours and got them?

[rooter]

Exploitation is perfectly OK as long as its mutual

[DireStraits]

Exploitation is perfectly OK as long as its mutual
Agree. And if you’re clever, you’ll make it so the other party believes they’re exploiting you 😁

[Johnisfun1969]

Many are accustomed to being spoiled and given the high life that they would never afford in normal jobs. As a result, they have this expectation that it is all normal. Imagine asking a good friend to take out a 40k loan for you? It is unlikely to occur. Some of these girls believe men are dumb or gullible to do favours for them and they are right. How many other guys has she asked favours and got them?

Well I think there are men out there who would just pay anything. I had come across some posts on twitter and instagram where girls as part of BDSM as part of role play get the slave to pay large amounts of money. So I am not surpsied with some girls expectation on SBs site. Then again perception and reality are not always the same. People who have made it big dont go around handing out money willy nilly whereas some young girls may beleive being in their 20s they deserve to be spolit and paid an excecutive salary for their company. I beleive there may be few hot girls that may command this kind of reward but not all girls looking for SD are hot spinners. The site has women in all age brackets. From the reports I have seen online most guys who are in these relationships have ppm arrangement and they dont pay upfront or for the first meet.

I have been tip toeing and some stage willl take a plunge.

[hornedbeast]

If she wants a Gucci handbag the least she can do is release the contents of my balls

[EYANH]

Actually from my experiences, if the girl happy to get paid to be our mistresses, it's a good thing as it means money can solve problems. It would be more complicated if she doesn't want money. So if she still accepts our money, players, be happy!

[BennyB]

Well I think there are men out there who would just pay anything. I had come across some posts on twitter and instagram where girls as part of BDSM as part of role play get the slave to pay large amounts of money. So I am not surpsied with some girls expectation on SBs site. Then again perception and reality are not always the same. People who have made it big dont go around handing out money willy nilly whereas some young girls may beleive being in their 20s they deserve to be spolit and paid an excecutive salary for their company. I beleive there may be few hot girls that may command this kind of reward but not all girls looking for SD are hot spinners. The site has women in all age brackets. From the reports I have seen online most guys who are in these relationships have ppm arrangement and they dont pay upfront or for the first meet.

I have been tip toeing and some stage willl take a plunge.

John I think a number of your assumptions are reasonable. Expectation gaps do exist, but that is part of the fun of chatting, bantering and negotiating. Skills that most experienced men who like women and their company have.

As a married man I don't get the chance to turn on the seduction much any more and even Esther Perel's advice only goes so far if your wife isn't into it either.

Sugarbabes give me the chance to be that best version of my seductive self again - I just wish I knew at 25 what I know now.

Thankfully there are literally thousands of women on Sugarbabe sites across the capital cities and many are just looking for a normal guy who will treat them right and can be their version of a sexy older man for a few hours a week. They aren't all looking for George Clooney either.

[juscruisin58]

John I think a number of your assumptions are reasonable. Expectation gaps do exist, but that is part of the fun of chatting, bantering and negotiating. Skills that most experience men who like women and their company have.

As a married man I don't get the chance to turn on the seduction much any more and even Esther Perel's advice only goes so far if your wife isn't into it either.

Sugarbabes give me the chance to be that best version of my seductive self again - I just wish I knew at 25 what I know now.

Thankfully there are literally thousands of women on Sugarbabe sites across the capital cities and many are just looking for a normal guy who will treat them right and can be their version of a sexy older man for a few hours a week. They aren't all looking for George Clooney either.

Mate, well said 👍

[Johnisfun1969]

John I think a number of your assumptions are reasonable. Expectation gaps do exist, but that is part of the fun of chatting, bantering and negotiating. Skills that most experienced men who like women and their company have.

As a married man I don't get the chance to turn on the seduction much any more and even Esther Perel's advice only goes so far if your wife isn't into it either.

Sugarbabes give me the chance to be that best version of my seductive self again - I just wish I knew at 25 what I know now.

Thankfully there are literally thousands of women on Sugarbabe sites across the capital cities and many are just looking for a normal guy who will treat them right and can be their version of a sexy older man for a few hours a week. They aren't all looking for George Clooney either.

BennyB you right in saying there are plenty of girsl looking for normal guys who will treat them with respect and maybe little desired. Afterall the women also enjoy flirting with men and make them weak in their knees.

I guess with age and marriage we all forget about flirting and seducing a women. I had a wonderfull time during my travel in Asia. I and need to build up a network of contacts. I miss the silly chats, banter and the excitement of the date.
But I was not expecting the negotiating. I thought the SBs may not like to talk too much about pricing but then girls these days are very confident and may not be too fussed talking money.

Thanks for your input here. Been very encouraging.

[BennyB]

BennyB you right in saying there are plenty of girsl looking for normal guys who will treat them with respect and maybe little desired. Afterall the women also enjoy flirting with men and make them weak in their knees.

I guess with age and marriage we all forget about flirting and seducing a women. I had a wonderfull time during my travel in Asia. I and need to build up a network of contacts. I miss the silly chats, banter and the excitement of the date.
But I was not expecting the negotiating. I thought the SBs may not like to talk too much about pricing but then girls these days are very confident and may not be too fussed talking money.

Thanks for your input here. Been very encouraging.

Thank you for your kind words Johnisfun - as much as I enjoy having sex with WLs/MLs as it fulfils a particular fantasy and need, I also enjoy the broader experience I have with Sugarbabes. I think both have their place and it doesn't have to be binary - it all comes down to what experience you are looking for. I've found that the time I have spent with WLs helped rekindle my desire to seduce women and Sugarbabes are the ideal outlet for that and it comes with no strings attached (at least the arrangements I seek out).

It is possible to have your cake and eat it ;-)

[HKHoney888]

Thank you for your kind words Johnisfun - as much as I enjoy having sex with WLs/MLs as it fulfils a particular fantasy and need, I also enjoy the broader experience I have with Sugarbabes. I think both have their place and it doesn't have to be binary - it all comes down to what experience you are looking for. I've found that the time I have spent with WLs helped rekindle my desire to seduce women and Sugarbabes are the ideal outlet for that and it comes with no strings attached (at least the arrangements I seek out).

It is possible to have your cake and eat it ;-)

Thanks BennyB for sharing your SB experiences. You have been very frank & insightful and have really opened my mind about the options out there...
Perhaps you could publish a quick guide to successful SB exploration. �� :-)
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[BennyB]

Thanks BennyB for sharing your SB experiences. You have been very frank & insightful and have really opened my mind about the options out there...
Perhaps you could publish a quick guide to successful SB exploration. �� :-)
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Thanks HKHoney888. I figure the whole point of forums is to share and pay it forward?

Your post makes me think it may be worth a summary of where to find good Sugarbabe resources for those interested in punting. I have an overall strategy and methods I use, but I have learned there are as many approaches as there are women on these Sugarbabe sites.

[BennyB]

Hahahaha.
A book like that would definitely be worth it for those trying to enter this area, it would help with an initial leg up (and open)...

I also note that you mention BennyB that your sessions are always aim to be multi hour and multi pop.
That is a little bit tiring for us older gentlemen.
I know my tongue can go the distance, but downstairs tends to need some medicinal assistance to get back or stay in play mode for that long...


Thanks ThaiGoodTimes and I've also had a look at the www.kamagraoioioi.com website you recommended, which looks like it is good value for money.

I am 40, can pass for younger, but I still notice I can't perform as well as I could when I was younger. Perhaps a thread on the different options to help you go the distance with a Sugarbabe would help.

I use a combination of medicinal and non-medicinal techniques, as I am sure you do?

[Riff888]

I'm all for sugar baby, I haven't looked back since December. Joined SA on Friday, hooked up with my current girl on Saturday. Hooked up with another girl on Monday. Then this awesome Indonesian half indian girl on Tuesday.

I'm sticking to my Italian, tattooed, pierced biker girl. She goes off big time, anywhere, anytime. We're beyond the PPM stage but it's her birthday soon so I'm getting her something she'll love. Her grandmother is strict to I have to be quiet picking her up and dropping her off.

I have heaps of nude photos they sent me, so tempted to post them here without showing the face of course.

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[Sibon]

I'm all for sugar baby, I haven't looked back since December. Joined SA on Friday, hooked up with my current girl on Saturday. Hooked up with another girl on Monday. Then this awesome Indonesian half indian girl on Tuesday.

I'm sticking to my Italian, tattooed, pierced biker girl. She goes off big time, anywhere, anytime. We're beyond the PPM stage but it's her birthday soon so I'm getting her something she'll love. Her grandmother is strict to I have to be quiet picking her up and dropping her off.

I have heaps of nude photos they sent me, so tempted to post them here without showing the face of course.


You are living the dreams we could only dream about. :)

Great to see someone has done it so brilliantly.

[Riff888]

Honestly I don't know what the fuss is all about.

It's not rocket science, just common sense.

Pay the 3 months membership with SA, put some decent pictures up. Like I said before, I used two photos, just a recent headshot after a fresh haircut and one of me in my car, chicks dig the car [emoji23].

Get in there, take the punt, make mistakes, learn from them and have fun. I was getting more than 10 messages a day and I deleted my account after three weeks even though I paid for 3 months [emoji1787]

I never had the Kik app before, now it's full of contacts from SA and they keep on messaging me.

My Italian girl has a set of keys to my place, she can cum and go as she pleases.

She even drives my car, not far though since she's on her green Ps and is banned from driving my car.

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[clausedd]

This thread is really inspiring from what I can see there are a number of successful high networth individuals (since you can afford the sugar lifestyle).

Makes me want to strive to be more successful financially, not a cheap lifestyle.

@Riff888 - are you single and thus can afford this lifestyle?

Also have anyone use sugardaddy.com.au as well? If yes, has it been good or?

[BennyB]

I don't think you need to be a HNW individual to be a Sugar Daddy.

If money is your point of difference, then you are in for a very expensive ride.

[Rooster18]

Great thread guys...

I think not just punters are turning to this network of finding some fun but girls themselves are def moving in this direction than the traditional sense for finding financial rewards using their body n services..

They would be mad not to...

Having 1 or 2 sugar daddies and enjoying being spoiled VS sucking multiple dicks every shift with no real choice and making less coin..

Plus in the current climate, it might be just safer as well.

[clausedd]

I don't think you need to be a HNW individual to be a Sugar Daddy.

If money is your point of difference, then you are in for a very expensive ride.

Realistically you will need to have spare cash right? In Sydney market, i would assume that's roughly around 400/week or so wouldnt you say?

That's around 20k yearly arrangement not including gifts and etc. You will need roughly around that amount for this lifestyle.

Would say looks of the sugar daddy matter highly for a sugar arrangement?

[Riff888]

This thread is really inspiring from what I can see there are a number of successful high networth individuals (since you can afford the sugar lifestyle).

Makes me want to strive to be more successful financially, not a cheap lifestyle.

@Riff888 - are you single and thus can afford this lifestyle?

Also have anyone use sugardaddy.com.au as well? If yes, has it been good or?Separated and living in a city apartment.

Before this I was punting around 3 or 4 times a week.

So having this one SB is working out to be around $400 a week and I'm seeing her heaps with longer stays. I'm enjoying the BB sex with this girl at the moment. I'm enjoying it day by day for as long as I can.

We've got a real connection and we both enjoy the sex so it's good to find someone really compatible like this.

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[Rogeryou]

Separated and living in a city apartment.

Before this I was punting around 3 or 4 times a week.

So having this one SB is working out to be around $400 a week and I'm seeing her heaps with longer stays. I'm enjoying the BB sex with this girl at the moment. I'm enjoying it day by day for as long as I can.

We've got a real connection and we both enjoy the sex so it's good to find someone really compatible like this.

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I think this is the way forward, I joined last week and have been inundated with super pretty young girls from 400 ppm to a grand and they are fucken stunners early 20s. Some want a weekly allowance for any time no time limit access.
Even with the ppm let’s say $500 you get a stunning 23yo for 5hrs of BBFS. I have 3 dates sorted already.
I think this is a bargain if you are a regular punter

[Rooster18]

I think this is the way forward, I joined last week and have been inundated with super pretty young girls from 400 ppm to a grand and they are fucken stunners early 20s. Some want a weekly allowance for any time no time limit access.
Even with the ppm let’s say $500 you get a stunning 23yo for 5hrs of BBFS. I have 3 dates sorted already.
I think this is a bargain if you are a regular punter

This could make the bigger FS establishments rethink their current business model. $500PPM is the same as 2 45mins punts at those places.

Game changer I reckon...

[Rogeryou]

This could make the bigger FS establishments rethink their current business model. $500PPM is the same as 2 45mins punts at those places.

Game changer I reckon...

100% it’s a game changer, I am not standing and showering on cum soak floor and bed.
Why pay 280 for an hour with a WL that has cum between her teeth from the previous dude that I had to wait until he finished!

$500 for 5 HOURS with a pretty young lady in a nice environment that just wants her rent and bills paid. Let you k ow how I go

[exstar]

Honestly I don't know what the fuss is all about.

It's not rocket science, just common sense.

Pay the 3 months membership with SA, put some decent pictures up. Like I said before, I used two photos, just a recent headshot after a fresh haircut and one of me in my car, chicks dig the car [emoji23].

Get in there, take the punt, make mistakes, learn from them and have fun. I was getting more than 10 messages a day and I deleted my account after three weeks even though I paid for 3 months [emoji1787]

I never had the Kik app before, now it's full of contacts from SA and they keep on messaging me.

My Italian girl has a set of keys to my place, she can cum and go as she pleases.

She even drives my car, not far though since she's on her green Ps and is banned from driving my car.

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Cue the influx of “man and their car” pics on SA now 😂


100% it’s a game changer, I am not standing and showering on cum soak floor and bed.
Why pay 280 for an hour with a WL that has cum between her teeth from the previous dude that I had to wait until he finished!

$500 for 5 HOURS with a pretty young lady in a nice environment that just wants her rent and bills paid. Let you k ow how I go

Definitely - and the chemistry is where the real value lies... good luck!

[suckitbaby]

I've read some of that book, I adopted some of the principles in it and changed my approach slightly which made a better difference. Maximum I pay now is $400 for a couple of hours with some cute looking girls. Still go for a RnT sometimes but not as much as I was.

I travel between Syd and Mel for work, just about to start again, had success in both states.

[GoldfishMan]

Yeah this is a great thread. Problem is I’m stuck with a partner, and CBFed to go over the whole shebang again of cloak and dagger cheating. I feel tired just thinking about it. You guys have all your fun, I sincerely envy you!

[Vader]

A reporters view who went on a site for a story,

In five days, I received 30 cash offers. 27 of those were for sex, three were for stuff as innocent as dinner and drinks.

Some of the guys seemed nice enough. Some insisted they were in perfectly happy marriages but needed something “extra” on the side. Some spoke endlessly of their salaries. Some sent me selfies inside their luxury cars and got angry when I didn’t reply within a couple of hours. Some didn’t have photos on their profile at all.

But all of them seemed a little bit hollow. A little sad. Like really lonely men, who don’t quite know how to connect with women if not through their bank accounts.

I still don’t know if I feel sorry for them, or if I’m impressed: There are — clearly — plenty of people who enjoy arrangements like these, who have no qualms about monetising the girlfriend experience.

[Double_Adapter]

Agree that this is an interesting topic and captures most of the pros and some of the cons on the sugaring scene. From what I’ve read the negatives are mostly for the SB.

A quick question and just out of curiosity - the Epstein and Prince Andrew saga, is that a sugar daddy/baby thing gone completely wrong or was it SDs exchanging and trafficking in sugar slaves?

[cumquat]

Agree that this is an interesting topic and captures most of the pros and some of the cons on the sugaring scene. From what I’ve read the negatives are mostly for the SB.

A quick question and just out of curiosity - the Epstein and Prince Andrew saga, is that a sugar daddy/baby thing gone completely wrong or was it SDs exchanging and trafficking in sugar slaves?

Dude … wipe your chin and when you’ve finished cleaning your key board and mum wants another photo taken

Ask sibon aka you to send the requested link to the hot ML you eluded to … lol

[Markin]

Agree that this is an interesting topic and captures most of the pros and some of the cons on the sugaring scene. From what I’ve read the negatives are mostly for the SB.

A quick question and just out of curiosity - the Epstein and Prince Andrew saga, is that a sugar daddy/baby thing gone completely wrong or was it SDs exchanging and trafficking in sugar slaves?

it's basically a sex slave/rape case, nothing to do with sugaring:


Andrew’s accuser in the civil trial, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, has claimed she was forced to have sex with him on three separate occasions in 2001, when she was 17.

[jenlai29]

Hi Gthgrt

A couple of things on this -

I never ever punt close to where I live and I never bring a SB to my home. If I was single, I might do this but only if I was comfortable with the individual over a period of time. It would be the same as inviting any woman back to your house?

The alternatives for me are

1. I have sugar babies I meet up with when I am interstate on business. I am usually in hotels or Airbnbs on those trips anyway

2. I use hotels or Airbnbs - there are lots of options for short stays (not quite the Japanese Love hotel style) on the web and it's pretty easy once you get to know the hotel management. I have one particular hotel I use when I'm in Melbourne on business and I get a room for 4 hours for $50 for example. Airbnbs were really cheap during the past six months as there was no business in city

3. I usually look for Sugarbabes who will, over time, take me back to their place. This is why pre-meets and being the kind of guy she wants to bring home to hers is so important. I'm not looking for a fuck at the back of a shop when its closed (although I can understand there may be a bit of fun in that)

I hope this helps.

Bb


Hi BennyB

I'd like to know more how to get good deals for hotels/airbnbs for short stay (4 hours)? I am located in Sydney

Thanks!

[BennyB]

Hi Jenlai

Thanks for your question and happy to share intel on here or on DM.

Two resources I use are Airbnb and Dayuse. It really depends on the offers as it can change at different times of the year depending on events etc.

I also called around hotels / serviced apartments that had low occupancy and went and did deals with the front desk manager. Always saying that I was in town for business and just needed a hotel room to meet clients and do some business.

They all know what you are up to and most will just turn a blind eye. Just turn up well dressed and play the part. If you are mooching around in track pants and dirty sneakers then you have no chance.

I aim to spend under $100 for an Airbnb or a short stay in a hotel. The deals vary so you need to do a bit of research using the options I provided you. I've been able to secure rooms for as low as $50 before - so you need to do some homework.

Would be great if you could share your successes back on here as well.

[Johnisfun1969]

Hi BennyB

I'd like to know more how to get good deals for hotels/airbnbs for short stay (4 hours)? I am located in Sydney

Thanks!

Mate there is a thread covering the topic of short stay hotels. There is a site called https://au.dayuse.com
This shows the hotels offering short stay. Just select the city you are looking for.

Many years ago in the days of cracker there were private agency using a hotel in Darlinghurst. I tried them 3-4 times and they would get you to wait in the lobby while they send the girl. The handler would get the room key and take you along the girl to the room. I liked the idea of a hotel where the room and sheets were clean. Only part felt little odd was going up the lift with WL and the other guests in the hotel. But I cant remember the name of the hotel. I think the agency used to have Korean girls in their 30s. I stopped using them as they did not have much choice. They were charging $250-$300 back in 2010-2012 and I dod not have to pay for the room.

[paulgallen]

With the Sugar Babel arrangement. I imagine the first meeting would be a dinner or drinks, do you need to pay for their time on this?

And if you want to take it further, do you then go have sex straight away if keen? Of sex is already pre arranged??

[gthgrt]

I'm all for sugar baby, I haven't looked back since December. Joined SA on Friday, hooked up with my current girl on Saturday. Hooked up with another girl on Monday. Then this awesome Indonesian half indian girl on Tuesday.

I'm sticking to my Italian, tattooed, pierced biker girl. She goes off big time, anywhere, anytime. We're beyond the PPM stage but it's her birthday soon so I'm getting her something she'll love. Her grandmother is strict to I have to be quiet picking her up and dropping her off.

I have heaps of nude photos they sent me, so tempted to post them here without showing the face of course.

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What was your initial ppm cost?

[juscruisin58]

With the Sugar Babel arrangement. I imagine the first meeting would be a dinner or drinks, do you need to pay for their time on this?

And if you want to take it further, do you then go have sex straight away if keen? Of sex is already pre arranged??

Its been a couple of years for me, since I'm in a longterm exclusive arrangement.

When I was meeting girls, NO I wouldn't pay for the time, yes I would pick up the tab for dinner or coffee.
I dont think I ever progressed to sex immediately after the first meet.

With my current girl, we had dinner twice at restaurants and on the third occasion we had dinner at mine and she stayed the night, between this we also had a couple of coffee catch ups, and outings.

Be mindful this was my girls first foray into this and it showed, nervous, unsure, and fairly anxious, I actually appreciated this and the fact I had to build trust with her

[Riff888]

What was your initial ppm cost?Hahahaha, I took a screenshot of our first conversation.

So first was $600, then $450 but that lasted not even 2 weeks.

It's now more of an allowance and she messages me if she needs funds here and there. I just transfer straight into her account.

So now on average about $400 a week.76642

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[gthgrt]

Hahahaha, I took a screenshot of our first conversation.

So first was $600, then $450 but that lasted not even 2 weeks.

It's now more of an allowance and she messages me if she needs funds here and there. I just transfer straight into her account.

So now on average about $400 a week.76642

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$600/$450 ppm to $400 per week with multiple meets, in less than a month.
Must be high compatability between you two.

[Riff888]

Yeah I think I'm very lucky with this one.

Another girl wants to move in with me rent free. I told her maybe in March or April.

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[paulgallen]

What is PPM?
Is it price per month or price per meet?

[gkpuntin]

Price per meet.

[gthgrt]

What is PPM?
Is it price per month or price per meet?

It's price per meet.

[GoldfishMan]

It's price per meet.
I thought it was pay per meet.

[Rogeryou]

Had my first meet today with a very early 20s Phillo looked every bit as good as her pic.
Agreed on a coffee meet before heading off to a hotel, the coffee ended up being take away.

Spent the whole day enjoying this sweet submissive little goddess, who took it like a trooper. Offered BBFS and asked if she had to swallow. Absolutely

Anyway she can only do days or afternoons as she lives with her strict parents and has a 10pm curfew hahahaha. When I asked her what she wanted the money for she said it was her rebellion agains her parents.

Can I changed my user name to Daddy? Hahah

[Sibon]

Guess what when I logged in seeking.com to check my messages box?

I saw the photos of a 26 years old model whom I had photographed twice in the New Members. She is half Chinese and half European. She has the complexion and body of her mother. She used my photo as her Seeking.com profile photo.

I just talked to her in Instagram the other day. Now that I know she is available I'm going to pursue this matter to see where it leads to although I don't see much hope.

[Rogeryou]

Guess what when I logged in seeking.com to check my messages box?

I saw the photos of a 26 years old model whom I had photographed twice in the New Members. She is half Chinese and half European. She has the complexion and body of her mother. She used my photo as her Seeking.com profile photo.

I just talked to her in Instagram the other day. Now that I know she is available I'm going to pursue this matter to see where it leads to although I don't see much hope.

The one with the bunny ears? 🤣

[gthgrt]

I thought it was pay per meet.

I stand corrected.

[Sibon]

The one with the bunny ears? ��

PMed you.

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[BennyB]

With the Sugar Babel arrangement. I imagine the first meeting would be a dinner or drinks, do you need to pay for their time on this?

And if you want to take it further, do you then go have sex straight away if keen? Of sex is already pre arranged??

Paul it really depends on a few things. Age is one factor. For example, one Sugar Daddy I know is 72 and he is fucking girls in their mid twenties. His strategy is to take them out for dinner and to give them a small gift or an envelope for their time. He is competing with younger guys for the same girls, so he needs a point of difference and it has been successful for him.

I personally will not ever pay for someone’s time to enjoy a meal or a cup of coffee with me. My time is also valuable and I’ve chosen them over all of the other girls I could have picked on the Sugarbabe site.

There are as many approaches to the pre meet as there are women on SA. It depends very much on how you set it up in the offline conversation. I look for the types that I can take my time with - I don’t want to rush to sex because I’m not looking for one offs or fast fuck and run meets. Others may and that is their preference.

I never proceed to a sex meet without meeting someone in public first. I prefer wine or a cocktail over coffee, for example, purely because I find they create different sensory response in both men and women.

Think about what works for you in terms of the persona you portray on the site and remain consistent with that.

[BennyB]

Its been a couple of years for me, since I'm in a longterm exclusive arrangement.

When I was meeting girls, NO I wouldn't pay for the time, yes I would pick up the tab for dinner or coffee.
I dont think I ever progressed to sex immediately after the first meet.

With my current girl, we had dinner twice at restaurants and on the third occasion we had dinner at mine and she stayed the night, between this we also had a couple of coffee catch ups, and outings.

Be mindful this was my girls first foray into this and it showed, nervous, unsure, and fairly anxious, I actually appreciated this and the fact I had to build trust with her


It sounds like you were patient and it paid significant dividends in the end?

That’s why most young women like older men. Because we are not in a rush and we make an effort for them. It’s amazing how much discretionary effort you get back in return?

[BennyB]

I thought it was pay per meet.


That’s right. It is pay per meet.

If you are talking to girls on SA I would be careful of using the term. It’s the fastest way to get kicked off.

[Rogeryou]

Didn’t get anything

[Sibon]

Didn’t get anything

Sorry resent message.

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[BennyB]

Mate there is a thread covering the topic of short stay hotels. There is a site called https://au.dayuse.com
This shows the hotels offering short stay. Just select the city you are looking for.

Many years ago in the days of cracker there were private agency using a hotel in Darlinghurst. I tried them 3-4 times and they would get you to wait in the lobby while they send the girl. The handler would get the room key and take you along the girl to the room. I liked the idea of a hotel where the room and sheets were clean. Only part felt little odd was going up the lift with WL and the other guests in the hotel. But I cant remember the name of the hotel. I think the agency used to have Korean girls in their 30s. I stopped using them as they did not have much choice. They were charging $250-$300 back in 2010-2012 and I dod not have to pay for the room.

Hey John that’s right. Dayuse is an excellent resource.

I prefer Airbnbs over hotel rooms. It can feel a bit more like it’s your own apartment. I also find I have much longer meets in an Airbnb than a Dayuse. A good meet for me is 6+ hours and three rounds of sex (at least half our time together).

Squeezing the lemon to get the cheapest, shittiest room is not a recipe for long and pleasurable sex meets. You want her to feel like she never wants to leave the room.

[Johnisfun1969]

Hey John that’s right. Dayuse is an excellent resource.

I prefer Airbnbs over hotel rooms. It can feel a bit more like it’s your own apartment. I also find I have much longer meets in an Airbnb than a Dayuse. A good meet for me is 6+ hours and three rounds of sex (at least half our time together).

Squeezing the lemon to get the cheapest, shittiest room is not a recipe for long and pleasurable sex meets. You want her to feel like she never wants to leave the room.

Thanks for this mate. The AirBnb sounds better. When we go away on holidays we prefer using serviced apartments more than the hotel. I guess for SBs meet it will work the same. Yes I agree finding a decent place and even one with nice views will give you the return.

[BennyB]

Thanks for this mate. The AirBnb sounds better. When we go away on holidays we prefer using serviced apartments more than the hotel. I guess for SBs meet it will work the same. Yes I agree finding a decent place and even one with nice views will give you the return.

Hey John - yes. Although you can also find some very nice boutique hotels on Dayuse - it all just depends on the occupancy cycle in the hotels. During a major event, for example, access tightens up.

Getting friendly with management helps too. I sometimes use a hotel on the GC with a woman up there who likes the fantasy of dirty hotel sex. She would rather go there than my apartment. So just be flexible would be my suggestion.

[Crusader]

There are a few questions around why Sugarbabes? Why not just pick a GF or a professional SW?

For those who are interested, I’ll give you my take on it from the perspective of 3 years of pretty much full time Sugarbabe punting.

Firstly, I am not exclusive with anyone and I will never aim to be. I do currently have more than one Sugarbabe I see and prefer to keep it that way.

Before I came across Sugarbabes, I spent much of my hard earned cash on Locanto, Frontpage, E&B and Scarlet Blue. I experienced the highs and the lows of these platforms and while I did have some good experiences, my punts were largely hit and miss. "Thats why it's punting" I would be told with a knowing shrug. But what if it did not have to be?

What led me down the path of Sugarbabes was an experience I had in Canada back in 2018. It with an Agency girl who had been in the game for all of a week. We spent a raunchy, sex fueled long-weekend for comparatively very little money. It wasn't a one hour escort hook-up and it wasn't an affair. It was like a hybrid of the two and I frankly wanted more experiences like it. As I’m married, I don’t want the risks of an affair, but I like 4+ hour sessions and it’s too expensive to do that with Caucasian privates. So what other options were out there?

After my trip abroad, I jumped back into the world of private escorts and brothels as that was all I knew in Australia. I found myself bumping up against three nagging disappointments:

Time clock and rate card - Sex with a private or in a brothel is all about the rate card and the clock. You cannot escape them. I personally prefer longer experiences where two people are immersed in their fun and the pricing is not dependent on time. Call me old fashioned, but I like a little wine, seduction and foreplay before multiple rounds of sex. I also like to shower and cuddle together with a gorgeous, interesting woman afterwards.

The bait and switch - its happened so many times with escorts for me to go back. I find it's not just in the Asian market anymore as anyone can photoshop their images, or post a photo of themselves from an old photo shoot. I like to meet a woman for a coffee, or a drink before deciding if we are both attracted to each other enough to want to go ahead and sleep with each other.

The sex worker routine - being in a queue of guys a WL is servicing that day, the wet shower doormat from the previous guy, health checks, taking my money before the service is provided, setting the clock by the bedside table, upselling me in the middle of it, the half hearted kissing (DFK anyone?), trying to get me to cum as quick as she can. These are all passion killers for me.

If you ask "Why bother with Sugarbabes - I could just have an affair?" or, “I could go onto Tinder for that and get it for free?”, well those are good questions and these are my responses:

1. Competition - There is more male competition in a bar than on a Sugarbabe platform. When you are over 40, picking up a 20-something hot woman in a bar is no longer as easy as it used to be. Even if you are under 40, you are up against a lot of competition. On the Sugarbabe platforms its 4:1 (girls to guys) and that's worth thinking about.​
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2. It's not a relationship - Dating Sugarbabes is not like having an affair and I’m thankful for that. Having an affair would be disastrous for me - I would probably fall in love, or get caught. I’m a romantic and like to play that role in my arrangements. Most Sugarbabes, if properly vetted, are not looking to be your mistress or your next relationship. You set the consensual boundaries that work for you and that forms the basis of your arrangement. How many 20-something girls have you met in a bar who are looking for a no-strings, no-risk affair with a 40+ guy?​

3. Tinder and other dating sites are too risky - I’ve found too many friends and co-workers on these sites. If you are married or partnered, you can’t run the risk of showing your face. It’s counterproductive as, if you don’t show your face, then its assumed you are just looking for a hook-up or an affair. On Sugarbabe platforms, the women don’t expect you to show your face as they know the deal and they understand your need for discretion.​

In summary I see that the Sugarbabe platforms offer me this:

1. discretion;
2. a regular stream of new, hot young women that I can authenticate in person before I spend;
3. A fun, lighthearted and potentially ongoing connection without a relationship; and
4. Great value for money when I’m spending 4-6 hours with them (and sometimes away on business trips for days at a time)

It may not be for everyone, but for me I have had a lot of fun over the years and still am. I just wish I had figured this out earlier in my life.

Absolutdlely nailed it with that response! Reading this felt like i had written it.

[Sam678]

@BennyB - thanks for starting this thread. It has been quite interesting one to offer a completely different perspective to me. I ain't a frequent punter but still like the idea of non clock and flexible arrangements. Haven't got the chance to read the complete thread yet but have decided to give it a try and hopefully work out from there. My only question is do you guys who have an account on SB forums need to put up pictures because it's the only part I am not comfortable with to begin with. Sorry If It's too naive one but have never read much into this domain ever before.

[BennyB]

Absolutdlely nailed it with that response! Reading this felt like i had written it.

Thanks for the kind note mate. At different stages of life we have different needs and wants. Sometimes we want a massage, a girl in a brothel, a private escort, quick fuck and runs.

Sometimes we want the actual girlfriend experience without the girlfriend. That's where Sugarbabes are great.

It’s not that one is better than the other - they are different and it is worth having the knowledge of what is possible, when making choices on where and how to spend your time and hard earned cash.

[BennyB]

@BennyB - thanks for starting this thread. It has been quite interesting one to offer a completely different perspective to me. I ain't a frequent punter but still like the idea of non clock and flexible arrangements. Haven't got the chance to read the complete thread yet but have decided to give it a try and hopefully work out from there. My only question is do you guys who have an account on SB forums need to put up pictures because it's the only part I am not comfortable with to begin with. Sorry If It's too naive one but have never read much into this domain ever before.

Hi Sam

Thanks for your note and question. This is the part that worries a lot of guys and it makes sense. It all comes down to your personal circumstances.

If I was single, it would be normal to put facial pics up on any dating site - SA would not be any different. If married, or partnered, I would be more circumspect.

You also have the choice between private and public photos. I use a blurred photo for my public photo and full face ones in my private photos.

The other alternative is to share private photos offsite. Most normal girls who also want to protect their privacy will understand this.

There is a whole chapter on photos and building your profile in that Sugar dating book I recommended.

[Rogeryou]

Ok so I am probably over booked next week. I am doing round 2 with the Phillo I met a few days ago. I have a new hot Asian, young Aussie and Italian and a fuckin banging hot African babe with awesome lips can’t wait to see them on my cock.
I also got a message from fit Tanya hahaha and a number of other escorts I have seen on Scarlett B and Insta.
This site is fucken gold I do think you have to post a pic to get the best results and be a good BS with your mouth.

Hahahah I wish new how to post pics on here

[BennyB]

Over COVID and lockdowns there were a number of SWs who started advertising on Seeking as they could not advertise on other channels. So you do have to be careful and filter through these if that is not the experience you are looking for.

When a Sugarbabe quotes you pricing by the hour on a website, she's probably a sex worker on Scarlet Blue or E&B.

[Rogeryou]

Over COVID and lockdowns there were a number of SWs who started advertising on Seeking as they could not advertise on other channels. So you do have to be careful and filter through these if that is not the experience you are looking for.

When a Sugarbabe quotes you pricing by the hour on a website, she's probably a sex worker on Scarlet Blue or E&B.

Set my max on 500 but I want the entire day or night for it and it seems to be pretty standard sometimes cheaper

[Riff888]

Ok so I am probably over booked next week. I am doing round 2 with the Phillo I met a few days ago. I have a new hot Asian, young Aussie and Italian and a fuckin banging hot African babe with awesome lips can’t wait to see them on my cock.
I also got a message from fit Tanya hahaha and a number of other escorts I have seen on Scarlett B and Insta.
This site is fucken gold I do think you have to post a pic to get the best results and be a good BS with your mouth.

Hahahah I wish new how to post pics on hereYeah Tanya's on there and so is Serena Lam.

Had an awesome BB session with a new Chinese girl at her place in Parramatta.

Feeling guilty because meeting my current SB later on her birthday for birthday sex.

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[Rogeryou]

Yeah Tanya's on there and so is Serena Lam.

Had an awesome BB session with a new Chinese girl at her place in Parramatta.

Feeling guilty because meeting my current SB later on her birthday for birthday sex.

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Mate you have changed 🤣🤣🤣 I had to look up what guilty means

[BennyB]

Set my max on 500 but I want the entire day or night for it and it seems to be pretty standard sometimes cheaper

You make a good point. I don’t negotiate online, but if I end up taking it to a meet and they want a ridiculous amount of money then it’s worth checking how much time they were expecting to spend at a meet. It’s possible that they assume you want overnights or hard partying.

I’m not saying you are, but it’s worth remembering that if you hand over big numbers for a few hours of fun, you will just end up distorting the market for yourself and everyone else. No one wins that way. Your upper limit is very reasonable. You can fuck a porn star in Europe for not much more.

[Vader]

Mate you have changed ������ I had to look up what guilty means

Mate, its the internet. Believe what you want.

[Riff888]

Mate you have changed [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] I had to look up what guilty meansTwo BBs in one day. But my test results came back clean last week.

This Indo/Indian girl wants to move in rent free, still thinking about it. She's Muslim but she's a freak, I had to push her off because I couldn't take it. She even asked for anal like what.

I told her she can move in around March but I'm not sure yet.

Shit I didn't realise how horny Indo girls are.7668876689

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[Rogeryou]

Two BBs in one day. But my test results came back clean last week.

This Indo/Indian girl wants to move in rent free, still thinking about it. She's Muslim but she's a freak, I had to push her off because I couldn't take it. She even asked for anal like what.

I told her she can move in around March but I'm not sure yet.

Shit I didn't realise how horny Indo girls are.7668876689

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That’s sensational, how old

[Riff888]

That’s sensational, how oldShe's 25, living in Paddo, smart girl, already has her PR but wants to live in a nice place rent free.

The sex will only be good for a short time in these situations.

Anyway she's still on SA.

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[Rogeryou]

She's 25, living in Paddo, smart girl, already has her PR but wants to live in a nice place rent free.

The sex will only be good for a short time in these situations.

Anyway she's still on SA.

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It’s a big call brining her home man, maybe only on the proviso everything is on your terms and that you can keep chopping anything you want. Fuck she looks good well done.

BennyB is the fucken King 👑 of this site now!

[BennyB]

Thanks Roger kind of you to say. I'll put your token of appreciation on my SA profile as a reference. It's probably going to be better there than on my office wall.

Hopefully the observations are relevant to you mate. I reckon I blew a lot of dough without getting blown in the early days. I just wasn’t patient enough and thought too much with the little head.

[ChrisBear]

Ive had a few. I have one who is late 20s. I give her $500 ppm.

Most will bb. (though I rarely do unless i feel we are exclusive.

[Riff888]

Have you guys noticed a lot of girls are interested in both women and men.

I've been contacted by a few trans boys as well.

The online status is not 100% accurate.

Is it worth messaging girls who are not premium members.

Always the same girls are online most of the time.

I now have an account without a main picture and I still get heaps of hits.

I have setup an Android emulator on my laptop and now have another Kik account.

A few girls I've spoken to before are there with different usernames, so it seems it's pretty easy to change your username.

Girls under 30 are more likely to go BB.

Lots of backpackers.

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[Rogeryou]

Have you guys noticed a lot of girls are interested in both women and men.

I've been contacted by a few trans boys as well.

The online status is not 100% accurate.

Is it worth messaging girls who are not premium members.

Always the same girls are online most of the time.

I now have an account without a main picture and I still get heaps of hits.

I have setup an Android emulator on my laptop and now have another Kik account.

A few girls I've spoken to before are there with different usernames, so it seems it's pretty easy to change your username.

Girls under 30 are more likely to go BB.

Lots of backpackers.

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Definitely worth messaging the non premium, I did a very early 20s Filipino the other day seeing her again next Friday. Meeting another Asian girl on Monday non prem. Pretty much had the same experience as you describe. I can’t believe how much interest there is with keen young girls. The value is insane. I have a 19yo keen to hook up for my interstate trip.

[Rogeryou]

Thanks Roger kind of you to say. I'll put your token of appreciation on my SA profile as a reference. It's probably going to be better there than on my office wall.

Hopefully the observations are relevant to you mate. I reckon I blew a lot of dough without getting blown in the early days. I just wasn’t patient enough and thought too much with the little head.

Mate I didn’t think anyone has OR could post anything on here that could impress me more than this site.

[BennyB]

Regarding premium vs. non-premium in the girl’s profiles.

If you are a Sugarbabe then you don’t pay for the membership. You just need a profile and photos and you are away.

I’ve never paid too much interest in those who set themselves as “premium” (they pay for that tag) because all it means is that there are more guys hitting up their profiles.

Sometimes the gold is in the inconspicuous profiles. The ones who aren’t putting their tits out in the skimpiest bikinis.

If you shop where everyone else is shopping, you just pay more.

[Sam678]

I have finally decided to give seeking a go. Wonder what would you guys already are champions and had a good success on platform choose your headlines and descriptions when setting up a profile. I read through few the website infos and want to make sure m not striking any norms but still convey the message about self and my intentions.
still trying to get the foothold on this newly suggested universe 😉😉😉

[GoldfishMan]

Hey John that’s right. Dayuse is an excellent resource.

I prefer Airbnbs over hotel rooms. It can feel a bit more like it’s your own apartment. I also find I have much longer meets in an Airbnb than a Dayuse. A good meet for me is 6+ hours and three rounds of sex (at least half our time together).

Squeezing the lemon to get the cheapest, shittiest room is not a recipe for long and pleasurable sex meets. You want her to feel like she never wants to leave the room.

Sounds like you spend more time in her orifices than in your offices, bro. That's the number one criteria to show that you've made it. Good stuff!

[juscruisin58]

Sometimes the gold is in the inconspicuous profiles. The ones who aren’t putting their tits out in the skimpiest bikinis.


Absolutely, as in the girl I'm with, had stuff all information in her profile, the thing that attracted me is she is a country girl and also was in my area which is the Newcastle region. She seemed shy and a bit reserved when we were messaging.
When we met she was as nervous as one could get, and admitted I was her first ever meeting with a SD.
That made me work harder to see where we could go, and over the last 2 years it has been a journey of discovery with her.
She was happy to meet for coffee with no strings attached, and had very few preconceptions unlike a lot of the "professional" SB's

[Rogeryou]

I have finally decided to give seeking a go. Wonder what would you guys already are champions and had a good success on platform choose your headlines and descriptions when setting up a profile. I read through few the website infos and want to make sure m not striking any norms but still convey the message about self and my intentions.
still trying to get the foothold on this newly suggested universe 😉😉😉

Bro best tip is post a good pic, when I have my pic up I get heaps of interest as opposed to when it’s hidden.

[Rogeryou]

I think we should set up like a wechat group so we can swap links on the quality legit gash we meet, I assume some might even want recommendations!