Looks matter

[17012430]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

[beta101]

We are all Alpha Giga Chad with zero pajeet genes here. You are not special.

[kere]

That's only human innit.

[17012430]

We are all Alpha Giga Chad with zero pajeet genes here. You are not special.

Thanks for taking the time out from being giga chad to read the entire post and not answer the question posed at the end

[KeenBean]

I’d say it’s natural for a ML to be less inclined to perform for a ‘lessor’ fit/good looking guy. Takes more from them mentally and I guess can be exhausting when it’s your day to day job. I guess it’s similar with any job, however this industry obviously is more demanding from the ML in terms of intimacy/physical duties.

[GoldfishMan]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?
Tell you what bro. In the last year or so, I've been making babies (if I wasn't shooting blanks!) with a certain someone that I am 100% sure nobody else on this here forum has been able to get anything more than a good BBBJ from.

How am I 100% sure about this? Well, none of the bros on here have said that the girl in question allows anything more than BBBJ. Over and over, I am being reminded by these really helpful bros, that what I've been getting from her is really something special.

You see how sound my judgement is, don't you? I mean, an entire forum of sex fiends are actively validating my VIP treatment from this girl. Nobody is getting what I'm getting. Fark, I really get off on this. Gotta go for my next creampie on this babe of mine.

So that's how I know for sure that I'm the Chosen one. Because I'm hawt, and she can't get enough of me, that's why. On my first meet with her, I got her so horny that she forgot she had a tampon in her pussy. Then, she took it out and checked if there was still blood in it and proceeded to have passionate BB sex with me until I creampied her. FMD that was so hot...

[Roy.akim]

Some guys on this forum might not want to hear this but not all pineapples are worth the same. Some get a lot more for their pineapples than others and that's life (these ladies are only human and attraction is a basic instinct).
I find it more prevalent in ML circles than WLs, but it happens far more often than not. Can't be mad or angry about it, although I see on a lot of reviews of men being upset that they didn't get the KING treatment they saw others receive on ARs. And trust me your $150 doesn't mean that much too most these women who make $1000+ a day.
That's why any AR should be taken as a loose guide and not the Bible. YMMV gentlemen that's the truth!

[Sibon]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

Most of the punters I've met on the way in or out of parlours are either old and overweight or very plain men on the street.

I haven't met a George Clooney, Bard Pitt or Keany Reeves yet.

Let me tell you your $200 is important to a WL as she only sees about 6-7 men in a day.

Only one WL told me her current boyfriend is her ex-customer who is a gifted musician and looks like AAron Kwok. Seriously how many of us can come close to that? :)

[MegaMonger]

It is not just looks...if it was i would be begging myself for a wank! Being friendly, happy, clean, and a good time goes a long way. So does speaking the language. I am a white bloke, but i speak fluent Korean...it gets a lot of love from Korean wls and mls...because it is extremely rare that white blokes in Australia speak anything more than a few words here and there.

Relying on looks along was great in my teens, twenties, and thirties...but as i approach 50...my game has had to change.

[rubit moore]

Bro Goldfish Sir! A noble post but might have to factor in that a lot of people don’t write AR’s if they’re getting good service and don’t wish to publicise the fact. In this day and age of the dud punt factor it’s even more of a necessity. Hats off to you Sir if you’re sure, but always remember those golden rules of punting. Nothing is what it seems.

You want a fucked up example? I used to date a WL during the previous decade, she got reviewed here. Those reviews were lame compared to when she got home, she’d fuck my brains out; Mad, passionate natural lovemaking and everything in between. It truly was great. But if she came up with a story about ‘work’ that day or a certain nationality customer wanted this or that, or if we were going away on holiday she’d put in a few extra hours the previous week (and same, I’d get off on reading some guy paying for her and me thinking, cheers mate you’ve just helped pay for my holiday) - something in the back of my mind always took things with a pinch of salt.
And yes, it didn’t last!

[xboyx]

look at subjective.

For us punters, some girls look good in some punters' eyes, and look average in other punters' eyes. Quite sure it's the same for girls.

I've seen many punters here praising a WL/ML as hot or pretty, and I think that same WL/ML is under average looking, vice versa.

Even if you consider yourself a normal Joe, you might be good looking in some girls' eyes.

I've had many WL/ML praising my look, but I know it's their job to say so :shout:

[asiafever]

Of course looks matter. They're only human. Even in jobs where looks shouldn't make the slightest difference people prefer to see better looking customers than horrormonkeys. Yes to a wl we're all a walking wallet, but still better a fit presentable polite walking wallet than a fat, stinky, snarky, one, right?

Special services? Sure, all the time, I don't report them because then others expect it.

[GoldfishMan]

Bro Goldfish Sir! A noble post but might have to factor in that a lot of people don’t write AR’s if they’re getting good service and don’t wish to publicise the fact. In this day and age of the dud punt factor it’s even more of a necessity. Hats off to you Sir if you’re sure, but always remember those golden rules of punting. Nothing is what it seems.

You want a fucked up example? I used to date a WL during the previous decade, she got reviewed here. Those reviews were lame compared to when she got home, she’d fuck my brains out; Mad, passionate natural lovemaking and everything in between. It truly was great. But if she came up with a story about ‘work’ that day or a certain nationality customer wanted this or that, or if we were going away on holiday she’d put in a few extra hours the previous week (and same, I’d get off on reading some guy paying for her and me thinking, cheers mate you’ve just helped pay for my holiday) - something in the back of my mind always took things with a pinch of salt.
And yes, it didn’t last!

Haha, it was tongue in cheek, bro. Well, at least the part about being the Chosen One. I wasn't born yesterday, that's for sure.

If I'm getting what I'm getting and I'm keeping mum about it, what's stopping every other Chosen One to do the same?

[Double_Adapter]

Punters Guide on Extras:

The level and type of service a woman will provide is directly proportional to how attractive a man is.

This condition always holds true, except when the man is filthy rich.
Ask any ugly sugar daddy or the women that married Buffett, Trump, Murdoch, Bezos, Packer etc

[coomerdoomer]

Of course looks matter. If it matters for you then it definitely matters for her. The difference is I can’t ever be a hooker because I’ll never be able to get hard for fat, old or ugly women (if you do then more power to you sir, just talking about my preference) while if a chick can use some lube and take dick all the same without being turned on.

[The Sampler]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

Hey mate, keen follower of your ARs.

When I can I try to personally follow up to verify your experiences.

It terms of looks I'm probably not as well sculpted as you describe. But I will say I have had some cracker experiences with some regular ladies after consistently hitting the gym and keeping up with the man scaping!

That being said, there have indeed been some follow ups to your ARs where I hadn't received the same quality service or said service wasn't offered, either by the same girl or just a hit and miss from the shop in general. Makes sense since I'm not an Adonis like you lol.

I also can't keep up financially with you as well lol. So your pineapples are definitely worth more than mine!

[rubit moore]

Haha, it was tongue in cheek, bro. Well, at least the part about being the Chosen One. I wasn't born yesterday, that's for sure.

If I'm getting what I'm getting and I'm keeping mum about it, what's stopping every other Chosen One to do the same?

Amen to that, sir! My take on it, keeping with the direction of the OP's thread... is we may all be the Chosen One to the ML/WL at the time of our visit, depending on who she's choosing and why; I walked into a 1st time booking months ago in Artarmon mid-morning straight from the gym, freshly showered, aftershave, and wearing just easy access shorts/tshirt. This PYT Thai just got off on this and from the off it was DFK/ fucking bareback on the table, with her saying 'we can do anal if you want'. I passed on that, but CIM instead. Beat myself up for weeks after going through with the BB. Was great though, 'No cum inside, ok?" and just $100extra. Doctors report on the test results read 'unremarkable'... I live to fight another day, another punt.

[Rookiestones]

I'm abit of and optimist so here are some hopeful reminders:

Looks does matter. However, it's a natural gift from nature. Not much you can do about it except to accept that you get what you get and you don't get upset.

Body also matters. Good news is you can work on it as it's entirely achievable. At the very least it'll improve your health and some confidence.

Manners is also important. This is all on you. Treat the ML/WL with respect and courtesy. It can make a difference. Personality is an entirely different ball game.

There is always your wallet where that saying "it's what inside that counts" can be applied to. This also can matter greatly. If you have enough money, you can buy almost anything, anyone, anytime.

As double adaptor highlighted "Ask any ugly sugar daddy or the women that married Buffett, Trump, Murdoch, Bezos, Packer etc" Yes, these guys have extreme wealth but I'm sure you get the idea.

[Ghost2hauntU]

Yeah I’ve read plenary of reviews either mixed or outright negative about some
of the WL’s I’ve had good time with, few regulars too over the years.

Everyone’s got their tastes. I for one would never fancy some young 140cm 35 kg WL of Ginze or Sakura like some of you do. Just not my thing. Gimme a hardened fit MILF that’s ripe and raw with a few battle scars anyday.

[GoldfishMan]

I'm abit of and optimist so here are some hopeful reminders:

Looks does matter. However, it's a natural gift from nature. Not much you can do about it except to accept that you get what you get and you don't get upset.

Body also matters. Good news is you can work on it as it's entirely achievable. At the very least it'll improve your health and some confidence.

Manners is also important. This is all on you. Treat the ML/WL with respect and courtesy. It can make a difference. Personality is an entirely different ball game.

There is always your wallet where that saying "it's what inside that counts" can be applied to. This also can matter greatly. If you have enough money, you can buy almost anything, anyone, anytime.

As double adaptor highlighted "Ask any ugly sugar daddy or the women that married Buffett, Trump, Murdoch, Bezos, Packer etc" Yes, these guys have extreme wealth but I'm sure you get the idea.

Very well said, bro. RE the wallet part, I did once try to use the "power of the wallet" to get BB from a girl, many years ago. I dunno why I did it. Now that I look back at it, she wasn't really that hot anyway.

Well I did get it but it was far from the experience I wanted. Did not enjoy it one bit. From that one time to now, I've made it a point to never try to get a girl to do what she wasn't willing to offer, even if she might eventually agree to it after enough $$$ are put on the table.

[beta101]

Thanks for taking the time out from being giga chad to read the entire post and not answer the question posed at the end

I am sorry. I don't respond well to a flex thinly veiled as a question.

[Idkfa]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

Yup. Reading the AR lots of negatives comeout when they want to vent. Not everyone writes about their good times

[GoldfishMan]

I am sorry. I don't respond well to a flex thinly veiled as a question.

LOL, couldn’t have said it better myself!

[Sibon]

"The punter who thinks himself as good looking, attractive and handsome and tall doesn't have a mirror at home."

- Miyagi Sensei.

:)

[RLC]

"The punter who thinks himself as good looking, attractive and handsome and tall doesn't have a mirror at home."

- Miyagi Sensei.

:)

I wouldn’t know because my mirror cracked the first time I looked at it.

[Double_Adapter]

"The punter who thinks himself as good looking, attractive and handsome and tall doesn't have a mirror at home."

- Miyagi Sensei.

:)


I need a room full of mirrors cause I want to be surrounded by winners.

[Frederic]

So many variables. Doubt if looks is one of them.

[OLD SNAKE]

At 51 i know i can't compete with 21 year old studs, so i need to be the best peacock that i can,
and focus on my presentation and technique to make myself more desirable as a regular,
so that means exercising daily, good hygiene, wearing clean and presentable clothes, speaking too and treating the women with manner and respect,
and of course use gentle but effective erotic techniques to hyper the woman's sensors and desires so she climaxes,

when you speak to these women most of them just want to be treated with respect, and some do and some don't enjoy rough fast sex

[Renegade86]

Looks do matter, but also hygiene and appearance. Need to keep nails clean, make sure you shower and brush your teeth. Wear some decent clothes and not look like a bum.

[gedinsyd]

Basically, yes, but like many of the other bros have said, manners, cleanliness etc. go a long way...I know I am definitely pretty ordinary, but I at least make the most of the factors I can control, and most girls respond pretty well.

[bung72]

Looks do matter, but also hygiene and appearance. Need to keep nails clean, make sure you shower and brush your teeth. Wear some decent clothes and not look like a bum.
Exactly - smell nice too. Be nice and respectful to them, compliment them a lot....

[11Bravo]

Yeah I’ve read plenary of reviews either mixed or outright negative about some
of the WL’s I’ve had good time with, few regulars too over the years.

Everyone’s got their tastes. I for one would never fancy some young 140cm 35 kg WL of Ginze or Sakura like some of you do. Just not my thing. Gimme a hardened fit MILF that’s ripe and raw with a few battle scars anyday.Likewise, I find the MILF's, amongst many desirable qualities for me, is that they are realistic in their expectations and appreciate repeat business.

Myself, I'm way past my prime though I HOPE there's a ways to go on the expiration date. But being clean, respectful, and a reasonable human being goes a long way. As the Thai's say, khun jai dee, a good heart, tends to be greatly appreciated (which only goes to show there must be a lot of assholes out there).

[Mr Fugly]

At 51 i know i can't compete with 21 year old studs, so i need to be the best peacock that i can,
and focus on my presentation and technique to make myself more desirable as a regular,
so that means exercising daily, good hygiene, wearing clean and presentable clothes, speaking too and treating the women with manner and respect,
and of course use gentle but effective erotic techniques to hyper the woman's sensors and desires so she climaxes,

when you speak to these women most of them just want to be treated with respect, and some do and some don't enjoy rough fast sex

Finally!!!

I am in my 60's but look younger (doesn't mean I am better looking.. lol) and fully agree with bro Old Snake !!
Every point he tells will make you a winner each time if you are willing to look hard at your own attitude first.
Be the Gentleman, be Respectful!

[JJBlows]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

It comes down to having a good first Impression (clothes, smell, manners etc) and then a bit of sexual compatibility and banter, always smile when you meet her for the first time. You get all 3 right then you will find you have some good punts with special perks that others don't get (after seeing each other for a while and trust is built) or she enjoys your company to the point where she wants to fuck you for you being you. where as all other punters fail with the girl so it's not always about looks matter.

At the end of the day, looks are a matter of perspective for the girls. For one girl you may be okay looking and for another girl she will find you handsome, with the WL in their late 20's to early 30's, your looks take a back seat if you can make make her laugh, have some decent flirting and hold a conversation with her but also pleasure her instead of that "wham bam thank you mam" and you will have some great sessions.

[Candy1234]

Depending on why they’re here, some have family back home to take care. If you’re willing to show some interest in sponsoring then you will turn handsome to them even if you look like a pile of crap. Used to see this private for a while, later found out she have two kids back home so she’s willing to sell her body to get them over here. Some of these girls life is so complicated so no way I would even want to get involve.

[Steve88]

I think that looks, being well groomed and charm count more than money. Money will by you the service but it cannot buy the passion. A girl gets horny only if she likes you. Money gets you a mechanical service.

[bung72]

Money talks.... I had one girl - she was pretty new. Blonde, uni student, easily 18-19yo. Drop dead gorgeous. I only ever book 30min with new ones, did here too (regretted later!) - then she asks for $70 for GFE extras - kissing/DATY etc. I came prepared for $150 for extras, so gave her that, saying 'you are the most gorgeous girl I've ever seen here, you're worth more than 70' - she. went. off. The best $80 I've ever spent in my life I bet. Of course she disappeared shortly after. I regret not going the full hour!
Compliments and tips gents.....

[triedforonce]

It's only human nature... If they like your appearance and you are polite and not pushy, most of the time you will get good treatment. I exercise regularly and usually got compliment from Japanese and Chinese girl, with some Thais as well, but never with Vietnam or Korean...not sure why lol. But 90% of my punt i always get good treatment (not always good punt, but its delivered)

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[11Bravo]

One time I was complaining about MY expanding waistline and she said, "That's not fat, that's prosperity".

[Alextheman871]

Some guys on this forum might not want to hear this but not all pineapples are worth the same. Some get a lot more for their pineapples than others and that's life (these ladies are only human and attraction is a basic instinct).
I find it more prevalent in ML circles than WLs, but it happens far more often than not. Can't be mad or angry about it, although I see on a lot of reviews of men being upset that they didn't get the KING treatment they saw others receive on ARs. And trust me your $150 doesn't mean that much too most these women who make $1000+ a day.
That's why any AR should be taken as a loose guide and not the Bible. YMMV gentlemen that's the truth!

Perfectly said brother!

[Alextheman871]

I wouldn’t know because my mirror cracked the first time I looked at it.

Yes Sensei! (Wax-in Wax-out)

[Olddog]

Couldnt pick one post on particular that emphasized, respect, manners, being clean, and just being nice.
kudos to all that posted similarly.

[Footballpunter]

I think the idea is to be presentable and that holds true to many occasions, not just punting. Like many of you guys said, this includes well groomed, well dressed, do your hair, and good hygiene.

I would say another thing that's very important is how you can hold a conversation, not just any conversation, but also an interesting one. No one wants to see a boring customer and being able to have a good conversation with them will add colors to their day which can translate into better service.

The one thing that I try to do, but often too lazy to, is keep working out. I'm knocking on the door of turning 40, so pure looks just won't cut it anymore. Staying fit and eat healthy really helps. Most WLs will actually take notice.

One last thing, years ago I learned a good tip from this complete womanizer of a guy. He's fit, but he said, the trick is also to do a few reps on your glamour muscles before going on your date. Those being biceps, triceps, shoulders and chest. It doesn't have to take long, maybe just 15-20 mins. The result is amazing because you get toned and look jacked for your date. Try to wear a sleeveless tank top underneath your shirt so when the outer shirt comes off, the focus is all on those muscles that you just worked on. It's actually a trick that actors use to look jacked before shooting a scene.

[bryanthemachinegun]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

I guess you are right in some aspects. I think looks really dictate the tempo. I think if you're all "Chris helmsworth" and wield the powerful Mjolnir then you can get away with some that others may not. let's face it, first impressions last.

[TheOtherI]

I think the idea is to be presentable and that holds true to many occasions, not just punting. Like many of you guys said, this includes well groomed, well dressed, do your hair, and good hygiene.

I would say another thing that's very important is how you can hold a conversation, not just any conversation, but also an interesting one. No one wants to see a boring customer and being able to have a good conversation with them will add colors to their day which can translate into better service.

The one thing that I try to do, but often too lazy to, is keep working out. I'm knocking on the door of turning 40, so pure looks just won't cut it anymore. Staying fit and eat healthy really helps. Most WLs will actually take notice.

One last thing, years ago I learned a good tip from this complete womanizer of a guy. He's fit, but he said, the trick is also to do a few reps on your glamour muscles before going on your date. Those being biceps, triceps, shoulders and chest. It doesn't have to take long, maybe just 15-20 mins. The result is amazing because you get toned and look jacked for your date. Try to wear a sleeveless tank top underneath your shirt so when the outer shirt comes off, the focus is all on those muscles that you just worked on. It's actually a trick that actors use to look jacked before shooting a scene.



It’s the same for bodybuilders when competing, that pump will make your muscles look fuller.

[GoldfishMan]

Something to think about is the girls' preference. Most of the K and C girls I've met tend to like slim, tall and leggy blokes. Guys who look good in fashionable clothes, not just suited and booted. They're probably influenced by the K, C or HK drama image of a good looking male idol. Some of these girls actually hate well-built muscly body types. More than one girl has said that the muscles make them look "like crabs".

The Thai and J girls are a different story. They dig beefcakes. I've even met a couple who love fat guys.

[Footballpunter]

Something to think about is the girls' preference. Most of the K and C girls I've met tend to like slim, tall and leggy blokes. Guys who look good in fashionable clothes, not just suited and booted. They're probably influenced by the K, C or HK drama image of a good looking male idol. Some of these girls actually hate well-built muscly body types. More than one girl has said that the muscles make them look "like crabs".

The Thai and J girls are a different story. They dig beefcakes. I've even met a couple who love fat guys.

Good point. We don't have to build our bodies like Henry Cavill, but just work on getting lean and toned. With that said, I just can't stomach trying to look like a K-pop star. Those guys actually look feminine to me, nothing wrong, but that's not what I want to look like lol. I also certainly don't want to be so slim that I weight just about the same as the girl, or less.

Either way, working out is also good for our general fitness and health. After all, the healthier we are, the longer we punt.

[Meng]

Something to think about is the girls' preference. Most of the K and C girls I've met tend to like slim, tall and leggy blokes. Guys who look good in fashionable clothes, not just suited and booted. They're probably influenced by the K, C or HK drama image of a good looking male idol. Some of these girls actually hate well-built muscly body types. More than one girl has said that the muscles make them look "like crabs".

The Thai and J girls are a different story. They dig beefcakes. I've even met a couple who love fat guys.

I haven't noticed that actually. Interesting points. Most comments by Chinese and Korean and even Vietnamese WLs are about how smooth and white my skin is. I realised that's part of the beauty standard there which I guess is a benefit to me.

Less so with Japanese and thai girls.

[F0x]

Something to think about is the girls' preference. Most of the K and C girls I've met tend to like slim, tall and leggy blokes. Guys who look good in fashionable clothes, not just suited and booted. They're probably influenced by the K, C or HK drama image of a good looking male idol. Some of these girls actually hate well-built muscly body types. More than one girl has said that the muscles make them look "like crabs".

The Thai and J girls are a different story. They dig beefcakes. I've even met a couple who love fat guys.

You know what's interesting here, given Thai culture has a ladyboy trend perhaps this is why they like more masculine built guys.

On the flip side a lot of Korean men over seen especially older gen are quite 'aggressive' in a dominant and manly way (probably why K girls don't like seeing K blokes) so they prefer the more feminine guys.

Not sure about C.

Plausible?

[bryanthemachinegun]

For me, it all comes to who is willing to shred some money the most! even if you're good looking, if you're cheap, you will be outwit and outshined by someone who's not that good looking but whips a lot of dough for it.
money buys respect, money makes the world go round.

[Mr.Robot]

This goes both ways. You think if your WL was not your type, poor hygiene and a terrible personality, you would even give her the same fucking as you would for a hot one?

[GoldfishMan]

You know what's interesting here, given Thai culture has a ladyboy trend perhaps this is why they like more masculine built guys.

On the flip side a lot of Korean men over seen especially older gen are quite 'aggressive' in a dominant and manly way (probably why K girls don't like seeing K blokes) so they prefer the more feminine guys.

Not sure about C.

Plausible?

Nah, I’m convinced it’s the dramas influencing them. Just watch a few K or C dramas and you’ll know what I mean. They’re after that specific look.

[fireball]

Looks matter to us and it matters to them as well. Perfectly said, your pineapples will go further if youre a 6ft tall blonde haired surfer.

[11Bravo]

I haven't noticed that actually. Interesting points. Most comments by Chinese and Korean and even Vietnamese WLs are about how smooth and white my skin is. I realised that's part of the beauty standard there which I guess is a benefit to me.

Less so with Japanese and thai girls.The Thai and PRC's I know (biblical sense) always tell me they want my WHITE skin. I always tell them fine, let's swap, because if I want to go out in the sun, it's sunscreen ON.

And, MY experience, they want a khun jai dee guy, a good heart goes a long way.

[bbob73323]

Being presentable goes a long way, also in general life

[F0x]

Of course looks matter, do you prefer Irene Fah, or Susan Boyle?

Same goes for women regardless of WL or not

In fact I'd probably speculate looks potentially are even more important to a WL considering how many guys they see.

[Double_Adapter]

If you spend your time chasing butterflies they'll fly away, but if you spend your time building a garden with flowers the butterflies will come. Butterflies are attracted to flowers of certain colours, but if the flower doesn't have or produce any nectar the butterflies will fly away.

The moral of the story:
The butterflies represent the beautiful women men chase but can't catch.
You are the garden, and the flowers in the garden is what you bring to the table eg style, character, vibe, personality, aura, intellect, humour, looks, scent, security, romance etc etc.

So do looks matter? Up to a certain point. Butterflies are attracted to flowers of a certain colour, but it's the nectar that they're after and it's what keeps them coming back.

No garden with flowers, No butterflies. No nectar, No butterflies Work on the garden, work on the flowers, but above all make sure there's nectar for the butterfly to suck on.

[11Bravo]

If you spend your time chasing butterflies they'll fly away, but if you spend your time building a garden with flowers the butterflies will come. Butterflies are attracted to flowers of certain colours, but if the flower doesn't have or produce any nectar the butterflies will fly away.

The moral of the story:
The butterflies represent the beautiful women men chase but can't catch.
You are the garden, and the flowers in the garden is what you bring to the table eg style, character, vibe, personality, aura, intellect, humour, looks, scent, security, romance etc etc.

So do looks matter? Up to a certain point. Butterflies are attracted to flowers of a certain colour, but it's the nectar that they're after and it's what keeps them coming back.

No garden with flowers, No butterflies. No nectar, No butterflies Work on the garden, work on the flowers, but above all make sure there's nectar for the butterfly to suck on.

Geesh, I was often called a butterfly in BKK, then a helicopter, then Sky Lab... which obviously dates me...

[GoldfishMan]

If you spend your time chasing butterflies they'll fly away, but if you spend your time building a garden with flowers the butterflies will come. Butterflies are attracted to flowers of certain colours, but if the flower doesn't have or produce any nectar the butterflies will fly away.

The moral of the story:
The butterflies represent the beautiful women men chase but can't catch.
You are the garden, and the flowers in the garden is what you bring to the table eg style, character, vibe, personality, aura, intellect, humour, looks, scent, security, romance etc etc.

So do looks matter? Up to a certain point. Butterflies are attracted to flowers of a certain colour, but it's the nectar that they're after and it's what keeps them coming back.

No garden with flowers, No butterflies. No nectar, No butterflies Work on the garden, work on the flowers, but above all make sure there's nectar for the butterfly to suck on.

When you said "nectar" and "suck on", all I can think of is CIM.

[ditchtheboss]

When you said "nectar" and "suck on", all I can think of is CIM.

Same here, I thought of a bbbj and cim

[bung72]

For me, it all comes to who is willing to shred some money the most! even if you're good looking, if you're cheap, you will be outwit and outshined by someone who's not that good looking but whips a lot of dough for it.
money buys respect, money makes the world go round.

Yep. I try and stay in shape, and well groomed - smile and be friendly. But money talks.... that $50 tip you give them over what they ask is well spent IMO....

[Double_Adapter]

When you said "nectar" and "suck on", all I can think of is CIM.

Nectar can mean different things for different butterflies. For some it is good dick with mind blowing O's, for others it is family, stability and children, yet for others it can be status and lifestyle, and for others it is money, power and access to resources. The trick is to find out which type of nectar the butterfly likes and provide it when it's needed. If the nectar ever runs out rest assured the butterfly will fly off and seek other gardens/flowers to pollinate.

[crazykyle1984]

look at subjective.

For us punters, some girls look good in some punters' eyes, and look average in other punters' eyes. Quite sure it's the same for girls.

I've seen many punters here praising a WL/ML as hot or pretty, and I think that same WL/ML is under average looking, vice versa.

Even if you consider yourself a normal Joe, you might be good looking in some girls' eyes.

I've had many WL/ML praising my look, but I know it's their job to say so :shout:

I believe on that one too! Looks are subjective! beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But if you have more than $300 to burn on a single WL? Average Joe becomes Chris Helmsworth! on the WL's eyes

[Refedust]

At the end, money talks. it also make sense to be a good and polite human being in general. Most of the time if they respect you, you get some extra services

[Devil73]

IMO look does somewhat matter. I had a session with WL who is like a supermodel but the service was bad, I got hard for a bit and became soft quite quickly because she did not put any effort into the session.

And at time, i had this milf ML with below average look who offered fs, but she did probably the best fs I ever had. My little bro was hard af during the session.

[Mr.Robot]

I wonder how many of us genuinely excite the WLs with our looks lol

[ditchtheboss]

I wonder how many of us genuinely excite the WLs with our looks lol

I know I don’t, but I have been told by frequents who know me for a couple of years that my exercising has made a huge difference.

[Shoryureppa]

In this line of work, perhaps.

In the general scheme of things, looks don't matter to women as much as it does for men.

[bung72]

I wonder how many of us genuinely excite the WLs with our looks lol

I have one I seem to genuinely excite - she gets so wet it amazing.... wetter than any WG I've ever seen.... I'm not sure it's my looks, maybe my dad bod does it for her, maybe my tongue in her pussy, maybe the extra 50 over what she asked for extras I tip....

[danaussieguy]

I’ve been seeing some reviews from guys on this forum who have had bad experiences with WL and ML that are regulars for me. I know this is just a job for the girls but I think YMMV a lot dependent on looks and manners, but I think real attraction does play a big part in the level of service you get. I tend to not mention bad punts much these days, but someone in my inbox said I always seem to get preferential treatment and I’ve been wondering why… I have noticed a big difference in treatment from women in general since making the gym a regular part of my life.

There is a ML I have seen at least 20 times over the past two years who has told me that the only thing that makes her horny now is money. She can’t fuck for free ever again. A WL I recently reviewed (that I caved and saw again) told me she has had guys who need assistance getting up a flight of stairs and she has to use a lot of lube because her pussy becomes the Sahara when seeing blokes this big, no matter how nice they are.

Anyone else had cracker sessions and then see other punters getting bad sessions with the same girl?

It's basically subjective and a case to case basis. If you are born a pretty boy flaunt it, use it to advantage! if you're born ugly but rich! be resourceful! at the end both can get great sex!

[JohnJones]

We are all Alpha Giga Chad with zero pajeet genes here. You are not special.

The "Pajeets" you're referring to descended from the Indo-Aryans, also the ancestors of Iranians. If you're Chinese or Asian in general, they would've had ancient Pazyryk genes in them. Pazyryks were also descended from Indo-Aryan.

You're an idiot if you think you have zero "Pajeet" genes in you. You would've had at least 3-5% of those genes in you. Even Australian Aboriginals and negritos of Southeast Asia descended from ancient people inhabiting South India from Africa. What a foolish statement.

[PKING2]

Looks somewhat matter, but the one that matter most is age.

Once a wl said sorry to pick her up because she older than me while bow down. And she thought I am way younger than her. But yeah my asian gene made me look younger lol.

[Zenxxx]

I reckon it helps a bit and may get you some extras. Just an average bloke facewise but I do keep my body in shape and I have been able to get some extra stuff myself which other reviewers did not and I would like to think the WLs found me somewhat attractive.

[imyouraussieguy]

Looks matter, yes. but how heavy can you GO on spending is more appealing to WL's.

Brad Pitt (broke) < Peeping Tom (Load O' Cash)

[Vincent888]

Looks matter, yes. but how heavy can you GO on spending is more appealing to WL's.

Hmmm I’ve never had a WL ask for anything.

There was that one time though where one wanted me to set her up in an apartment but other than that nothing in fourty years of punting.

[PKING2]

I reckon it helps a bit and may get you some extras. Just an average bloke facewise but I do keep my body in shape and I have been able to get some extra stuff myself which other reviewers did not and I would like to think the WLs found me somewhat attractive.

Might be yes might be no
I am out of shape and one pyt ml stealthily bb me, I didn’t ask, always no bb rule for me. And I haven’t seen any hint from all her reviews here mention that. And I am not her regular.

I think more like how clean you are, smells good etc etc

One of famous wl told me she likes my perfume and said don’t wash my neck when shower together lol

[Vincent888]

"The punter who thinks himself as good looking, attractive and handsome and tall doesn't have a mirror at home."

- Miyagi Sensei.





Do any of you guys look in the mirror whilst pumping a WL ? Do you ever both look in the mirror as you’re doing it?

I’m curious.

What about your inhibitions?

Are you happy to walk around naked in the room with the WL’s?

[Vincent888]

I wonder how many of us genuinely excite the WLs with our looks lol

Yesterday’s compliment was:

“You’re nice”


Was I flattered? Meh.

Next time I’ll return the favor instead of calling her beautiful etc

It’ll be “oh darling, your nice”!

😂 😆 lol 😝

[asiafever]

Do any of you guys look in the mirror whilst pumping a WL ? Do you ever both look in the mirror as you’re doing it?

I’m curious.

What about your inhibitions?

Are you happy to walk around naked in the room with the WL’s?

Yeah have been known to look in the mirror, and have known a few girls who did also. A ml earlier this year turned her head in missionary, looked in the mirror and said "I want to watch you fuck me" then she adjusted her legs so she could clearly see me slide in and out, and kept alternating between the mirror and looking down between our bodies.

Walking around naked in a room with a wl? Yeah no problem. I do find it kind of cute when a girl gets a little shy about her body. Cheeks go a little red and the shy smile, definitely works for me.

[TheBigChungus]

Do any of you guys look in the mirror whilst pumping a WL ? Do you ever both look in the mirror as you’re doing it?

I’m curious.

What about your inhibitions?

Are you happy to walk around naked in the room with the WL’s?Yes 100% every single time there's a mirror oh you bet I'm looking! (This is also why I like well lit rooms to fuck, fuck that dimly lit shit holes)

Even recently with Chloe, during the doggy we faced the mirror and I could see her face and her getting pounded.


Ngl this fascination came from watching the American Psycho, I don't really flex and feel my hair while I'm doing it but sometimes I can't help but notice how big and decent muscle mass I have (bulking right now so don't have defined lines, yet).

Honestly never been shy to walk around naked, I train to look good naked.

Never really seen what an average punter looks like even when I visited the shop twice, but for some reason in my head it's always an overweight 45+ old dude, but after reading the forums I guess there are a lot of younger and overall gigachads pumping WLs.

[Vincent888]

Banged a private Thai hottie this morning.


She had the music blaring, disco lights running and was dancing as she cowgirled my cock. Oh and she was checking herself out in the mirrors.

She commented on me and I her.

Fun sesh.

[traveller2023]

Banged a private Thai hottie this morning.


She had the music blaring, disco lights running and was dancing as she cowgirled my cock. Oh and she was checking herself out in the mirrors.

She commented on me and I her.

Fun sesh.

Care to share the details?

[tidal]

Love the disco lights....would you care to share Vincent888. Thanks in advance

[Vincent888]

No details on this one as she worked in a high risk environment. I won’t be going back. I post about it elsewhere.