Dating a ML

[Coxswain]

Have a fish with sibon

[Babewatch]

I’m thinking her want to stay here will never be fulfilled as she doesn’t comprehend what is required. It’s all about the marriage she thinks. If things were that easy she’d have done that already with someone else before I met her.

You can’t just marry a guy and get instant citizenship, correct? Her push for marriage is absurd. I’ve never met anyone ask so hard.

I’ve already seen that as a red flag and there won’t be a chequered flag. I think she’s dreaming. Everyone is entitled to dream though.

Does this girl work in Liverpool by any chance?

[Spanky69]

Does this girl work in Liverpool by any chance?

Not in the last six months no. I don’t know about before that. It’s becoming a lost cause. Unless she shows me some respect and consistency regarding returning messages and not leaving me hanging then I’m ready to throw the towel in once again.

I know I burnt her and she said I broke the relationship but I fully expected her to forgive and forget. I can guarantee she’s dating other guys as they’re infatuated with her. I’ve seen their messages. I just think it’s bad manners not to say I’ll get back to you in a certain period of time. Like “I’m busy tonight can I txt you in the morning”, that kind of thing. That’s all.

She wants but doesn’t give. She’s stopped kissing for example. Well that’s a big no no in my book. I have other women choking me with their DFK’s and I’ve told her that too. As to be expected that didn’t go down well. She doesn’t want to be compared to my other women. Well darling it’s put up or bye bye once again.

Ive always considered this a transactional relationship due to our vast age difference and she even referred to me as a Sugar Daddy to one of her other guys she sees. I’ve read that message too as she showed me. I’m happy with that arrangement but she has to deliver and she’s not delivering.

Doesn’t respond back, doesn’t kiss, doesn’t provide pussy and wants everything. She’s a total loss situation. Doesn’t bring anything to the table except her looks.

Sooner or later I will just lose interest.

[tcrawford]

Haven't been keeping up with this thread but have you banged yet?

[Johny77]

Stop responding to this made up thread. Can’t believe it’s still going. Allow this fantasy to just die already.

[Spanky69]

Stop responding to this made up thread. Can’t believe it’s still going. Allow this fantasy to just die already.


It’s not made up. It’s almost a Shakespearean tragedy where the punter is hoist by his own petard!


Haven't been keeping up with this thread but have you banged yet?


I wanted to bang bang long time but she said it’d be a long time before I get to bang bang. Perhaps something was lost in the google translate function?

Johny77 I’m almost cumpletly over everything if you get what I mean. My blue balls are hanging so low they sound and feel like two big maracas swinging against my knees. Now envisage that!

I need this to be over before I becum over emoted. She doesn’t care. She doesn’t have a set of maracas so it’s not her worry. Her only worry is being beautiful she says!

[Spanky69]

Hmm well it’s back on again and lunch today was at one of our fav restaurants.

Once I realised I had to slow down and enjoy the ride, behave myself, respect her, withdraw every form of bad behaviour I exhibited previously everything is fine.

It was a combination of reading the responses to this thread and input from my non forum friends. Hence my personality change.

She knows it and yes she truly looked beautiful today. Miniskirt, G string, lower arse cheeks on show even though it was cooler weather, those breasts, long legs, beautiful makeup and her smile.

Yep, she’s still most definitely worth the wait.

[Spanky69]

Well I’ve dumped her once more guys.

This time it really is over. She’s blocked my messages and quite honestly I just don’t care. I have another WL to add to the current WL and she’s way way better in every shape and form than the ML. For starters she gives me respect. A simple thing but it means a lot.

Let some other guy waste his time and money trying to have a relationship with someone who just is incapable of doing such.

For reasons I won’t go into exactly she will never be in any relationship with any guy. A woman yes but not a guy. Some of her butch looking Thai sex worker GFs ward off any guys who come close. She’s told me that several times. In fact they even txt on her behalf. I can tell because all of a sudden the English steps up several notches if I say anything that invokes heated discussion. I’ve also seen several videos of her with girl on girl kissing etc. Almost every video of her with females has kissing. Shes even told me some want to date her. They wear each others clothes etc.

The guys she’s said were her BFs well who knows, she tells me so many lies I can’t tell fact from fiction. If anything the guys were effeminate looking. They’re Aussie but if I see a guy wearing makeup I’m starting to ask questions and she never answers questions… her game strategy. Never answer.

So I presume she’s gay, but works. Is happy to date guys if it’s financially beneficial. Will never go further though. Does this make sense? You guys understand I hope. It maybe cost me $10k or more to get to this stage of learning about her.

She won the game, she didn’t put up.

She got a small benefit.

You don’t win them all.

I’ll never publicly state why it failed.

My friends offline know the reason.

Life goes on.

Big Daddy Spanky has spoken.

[Zoobender]

She is your daddy. She is in the driver's seat you are just there for the fake ride. Guys how do you block someone on this forum. I don't come here to read fiction.

[ScotPassingThrough]

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?129684-Public-Service-Announcement

There you go mate. You no longer need to read this fantasist bullshit. Credit to Bravo11 obviously

[Spanky69]

She is your daddy. She is in the driver's seat you are just there for the fake ride. Guys how do you block someone on this forum. I don't come here to read fiction.

Whatever.

You’d never do half the things I do, capere?

I cannot expect you or the other forum members to believe anything. Nor will I continue to try. The difference between myself and you guys is that even though I failed with her I put it out there for your entertainment and because I was happy to write about my journey.

She’s unblocked me and is now no doubt reading how I fucked three girls right before our lunch date on Thursday. My mates said don’t tell her. They can go to hell too… yeah I buy them like I buy the women. Great isn’t it.

[Spanky69]

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?129684-Public-Service-Announcement

There you go mate. You no longer need to read this fantasist bullshit. Credit to Bravo11 obviously

Scot passing through is like a bowel movement, passing through, yes?

11Bravo is ok in my books but only just ok.

He needs help crossing the road. He’s openly stated that a SW did just that. Held his hand as he crossed the road. They even buy him food. Can it get any worse? Yep. Blocking a forum
Member. Even suggesting such a thing. This forum is slow enough without deliberately gearing it down. Then again if you exhibit signs of old age what more can one expect??? Bet 11Bravo doesn’t like noisy planes, loud cars and motorcycles, parties going on next door or for that matter fast women.

[Endo123]

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what she does for work. I know a lot of girls that work at No 5, 42 Glades, Ginza and a few other shops that have BF's and they do not mind their GF's working in the industry. Honestly, their BF's do not mind their girlfriends are WL's and do normal stuff couples do outside of their workplace. Their BF's accept the fact that their GF's are sucking and fucking cocks each week. For me, I don't give two shits if my GF was a WL because that's her job.

If I was in your situation, just go for it. Does it really matter what she does for work anyway ? What difference would it make if she was a lawyer ? You wouldn't bat a eye lid. I got grilled a few years ago about my views on dating a WL and of course, we all learn from previous experiences. My views are that if you want to do it, just do it. Any relationship you get into is going to have baggage of some sort weather that is kids, drugs or mental health issues as examples.

One point to make is that if she is a international visitor or student and does not have PR or citizenship, CUT ALL TIES AND GET RID OF HER ASAP. DO NOT PROCEED. Reason why ? Because I have been there before and it was a fucking nightmare. I have learnt from previous experiences and despite everything that she can offer in terms of sex, money or anything, it is not worth it.

If she is a citizen/PR: Go for it no problems.
International student/visitor: RUN FOR THE HILLS, CUT ALL TIES, DELETE NUMBER AND RUN JUST LIKE FOREST GUMP.

Wait so why exactly does it matter if the WL is local or not?

[ReginaldBubbles]

Well I’ve dumped her once more guys.

This time it really is over. She’s blocked my messages and quite honestly I just don’t care. I have another WL to add to the current WL and she’s way way better in every shape and form than the ML. For starters she gives me respect. A simple thing but it means a lot.

Let some other guy waste his time and money trying to have a relationship with someone who just is incapable of doing such.

For reasons I won’t go into exactly she will never be in any relationship with any guy. A woman yes but not a guy. Some of her butch looking Thai sex worker GFs ward off any guys who come close. She’s told me that several times. In fact they even txt on her behalf. I can tell because all of a sudden the English steps up several notches if I say anything that invokes heated discussion. I’ve also seen several videos of her with girl on girl kissing etc. Almost every video of her with females has kissing. Shes even told me some want to date her. They wear each others clothes etc.

The guys she’s said were her BFs well who knows, she tells me so many lies I can’t tell fact from fiction. If anything the guys were effeminate looking. They’re Aussie but if I see a guy wearing makeup I’m starting to ask questions and she never answers questions… her game strategy. Never answer.

So I presume she’s gay, but works. Is happy to date guys if it’s financially beneficial. Will never go further though. Does this make sense? You guys understand I hope. It maybe cost me $10k or more to get to this stage of learning about her.

She won the game, she didn’t put up.

She got a small benefit.

You don’t win them all.

I’ll never publicly state why it failed.

My friends offline know the reason.

Life goes on.

Big Daddy Spanky has spoken.

You sure know how to take the piss Li'l Spanky

[11Bravo]

She is your daddy. She is in the driver's seat you are just there for the fake ride. Guys how do you block someone on this forum. I don't come here to read fiction.


http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?129684-Public-Service-Announcement

There you go mate. You no longer need to read this fantasist bullshit. Credit to Bravo11 obviously

Thanks, but an easier way's credit goes to rubit moore
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?79-Easy-get-useful-information-Thread-Display-Option-Prefix-Search&p=3040327&viewfull=1#post3040327

Like an automatic bag for those land mines left on the sidewalk. Your brain will thank you. :smile:

[Spanky69]

Wait so why exactly does it matter if the WL is local or not?

She isn’t local and has 18 months mths to go.

After we had made up for the seventh time all mention of residency and gifts were never mentioned by her again. We dated, I gave her money on the second last date because she said two days that week were very very quiet. She only made $130 one day and $170 on another. These were in the same shop but on two seperate days separated by a day at another shop. No one can live on that so I topped her income back up. The last date everything was fine but no money given. Consider it charity or being a sucker? She went on the piss that night though and wanted me to hang with her and her friends in Thai town but I have a pre programmed work schedule and cannot take time off just like that. She sent me videos of her kissing her SW gf’s etc, just the usual and told me how they blocked guys from hitting her up.

She now has numerous bruises on her legs above her knees and we all know it’s from heavy handling during sex. She says she cannot remember what happened that night. My mate reckons she has an alcohol problem and I tend to agree on that from my experience with her and the numerous drinking videos she sends. She even drinks at work ffs.


You sure know how to take the piss Li'l Spanky


No need to invent anything, my life is as bizarre as it gets. Look this ML is tame but only slightly twisted. Twisted enough that I cannot control her. Like grabbing a greased up pig almost impossible to contain. I may write about her but for a woman to take and take and take and not deliver well sooner or later I’m giving up.

I’ve given up.

Besides I now have that other WL the second WL. I just have to see how good she is about playing around on the side. It’ll either be a success or a major SHTF if it comes out she is dating me. I’ve started already, my “one woman” mate reminded me, yeah I’ve started cheating with her, it’s just a matter of where it ends up.

Things we do because we cannot stop…


Thanks, but an easier way's credit goes to rubit moore
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?79-Easy-get-useful-information-Thread-Display-Option-Prefix-Search&p=3040327&viewfull=1#post3040327

Like an automatic bag for those land mines left on the sidewalk. Your brain will thank you. :smile:


11Bravo do you have any gardening tips?

My rose garden 🌹 needs your help.

I have problems with female nymphs, they are members of the “small money” sucking variety and part of the sex worker family. Common names include ML and WL, although certain individuals within the species can vary widely in their hunger they all exhibit similar traits.

The ones I’m experiencing have a very short dating cycle. Should I avoid them all together or is there something else I can do 11Bravo?

[Endo123]

There is only 6 years between us so the relationship was quite plausible and we enjoyed each others company immensely, we were very compatible but as it has been said before, most relationships with WLs end up in tears and it is the case for me.

The best post/advice here is pay, fuck and leave.

How long did it last and why did it end?

[Spanky69]

Well I deserved it. I reacted to her ignoring my txts. I expected textual courtesy and didn’t get it.

I cannot burn a person indefinitely either. Trouble was she played me continually. I was prepared to forget about the sex just for her companionship. She was really a pleasant person to hang with. She’d stopped her demands for items.

But like I’ve said previously we all live on our phones. I’ve seen her so many many times swipe up messages from people obviously ignoring them and she did the same to me.

As far as I was concerned it was bad manners. All she had to do was txt and say I’m busy. Simple.

So I activated another SW via a single txt. Admittedly she had my number but we never chatted previously. How easy was that? She’s an entirely different person and we’re getting on like a house on fire.

No need to go on about this ML anymore.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Get a small glass jar and fill it with vinegar. Cut off your dick with some sharp secateurs. Put dick in jar of vinegar. Present to ML and shut the fuck up.

[Spanky69]

Get a small glass jar and fill it with vinegar. Cut off your dick with some sharp secateurs. Put dick in jar of vinegar. Present to ML and shut the fuck up.

Reggie it’s literally over, not figuratively.

I never even got a sympathy emoji from any of my fellow punters! Anyway she is real and she’s not responding to my message and it’s sitting there with one tick against the message which means not delivered. Baht never mind, the new WL is using the same app and I have a plethora of messages from her so all is good, my mind is 99% distracted now.

The ML is no doubt working today and quite possibly depending on which shop she is at could be suffering financially again like last week. It’s her loss. She was on easy street if only she put up. Her long term game was pointless. Talking to someone last night he says the economy is slowing down. I’d have never noticed. One of my insurance premiums just went up 25% for no reason other than greed so I guess the corporate sector is hurting?

Getting back to her, two days later and my message hasn’t been looked at…

It’s a meh moment.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Here's on for you vinnie

Poor snookums

I hope that makes you feel better

[Spanky69]

Here's on for you vinnie

Poor snookums

I hope that makes you feel better

It’s the thought that counts, now considering you’re a thoughtless person towards me most of the time I’m shocked.

Like sand through the hourglass so are the punts of our lives…

[kayofa]

Someone should start a thread about being the only one person able to exclusively FS an ML...

[Spanky69]

Someone should start a thread about being the only one person able to exclusively FS an ML...

Great idea.

Getting back to the current ex ML.

Perhaps and it’s a very big perhaps, she may come back. I sent her a text last night and she responded. Not a good response but a response. I still don’t know why this one went topsy turvey. My WL relationships are quite steady, perhaps two crazy people cannot get along? Plus I refuse to be played. That’s probably the main reason now that I think of it. Now it’s become a battle of the wills. Interesting.

[Niceguy11]

Wait so why exactly does it matter if the WL is local or not?

Because 99.999% of WL's that are not permanent residents will date a customer purely for permanent residency. Been there, done that. Do not do it.

[schloong]

My regular already has a PR so no issues there...:smile:

[Niceguy11]

My regular already has a PR so no issues there...:smile:

Mine also has PR. All previous regulars of mine were not permanent residents.

[Spanky69]

I’m thinking why bother chasing her. There never will be sex. It’s just a game now. To see how many times I can reel her back in. Maybe I will maybe I won’t.

[Spanky69]

Because 99.999% of WL's that are not permanent residents will date a customer purely for permanent residency. Been there, done that. Do not do it.

Yep. Not worth the time, emotional content and money. Plus there’s a risk that’ll she’ll jump ship after she obtains PR.

[kayofa]

Yep. Not worth the time, emotional content and money. Plus there’s a risk that’ll she’ll jump ship after she obtains PR.

Telltale signs she'll jump ship:

She announces it as a "joke"
She's super rude and is on an emotional rollercoaster (blocking & unblocking several cycles)
Only offers hot sex when you give her expensive gifts/restaurant degustation
Disrespects you and mocks you openly
Always rejects certain pleas and requests you have for her, guising it under "play hard to get"
Doesn't communicate directly, always super "wishy-washy"

Sounds familiar?

[Spanky69]

Telltale signs she'll jump ship:

❎She announces it as a "joke"
✅(blocking & unblocking several cycles)
✅Only offers hot sex when you give her expensive gifts/restaurant degustation
❎Disrespects you
✅Always rejects certain pleas and requests you have for her, guising it under "play hard to get"
✅Doesn't communicate directly, always super "wishy-washy"

Sounds familiar?.

Correct on four. Anyway it is what it is. I didn’t succumb to her scaling up her monetary wants.

Frustration left me breaking it off then repeatedly trying once again. Over and over. She never provided sex and in this day and age it’s ridiculous. Yes there was a big age difference but I know what I want. Sex when I want it. She never provided so I made sure she knew about my punting three women during one of our last chats.

It was to say, “if you don’t provide I’ll get it elsewhere”, which I did. More than a dozen dates and money given to her and no sex. There’s more to it on her side but I respect her privacy.

It just another case of a ML from another country trying to take advantage of a guy. So she got a few dollars. Most probably try the same trick with other guys. Strange thing is I suspected it before we even dated. I was on my guard already.

I’ve even had one recently ask me if my assets were in a trust. Now why would a WL ask that…

[Spanky69]

It’s been five days.

I’m wondering if I should txt her? The fascination has gone as I now have a new WL to focus on.. There’s that saying “no use beating a dead horse”, I wonder if any feeling or excitement would return on my side of things? It was stressful as she was very demanding of my time. Plus initially her asking for and getting material things. Maybe she realises I’m not a pushover. Who knows.

Should I bother?

[Spanky69]

I have txt and zero response so it’s over.

A song from Roy Orbison with lyrics.

https://youtu.be/VO08gB82mds?si=USI9PP691DXjv2yv

Yes it’s over.

[Footballpunter]

I'm late to this party, but why do I get the vibe that this is vincent? can we please not have vincent again?

[11Bravo]

I'm late to this party, but why do I get the vibe that this is vincent? can we please not have vincent again?

Keen eye. Like herpes, impossible to get rid of. But like Valacyclovir, using the Ignore List feature can reduce irritation symptoms.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?79-Easy-get-useful-information-Thread-Display-Option-Prefix-Search&p=3040327&viewfull=1#post3040327

Just call me a helpful pharmacist.

[ReginaldBubbles]

I have txt and zero response so it’s over.

A song from Roy Orbison with lyrics.

https://youtu.be/VO08gB82mds?si=USI9PP691DXjv2yv

Yes it’s over.

Wow you've never said that before. This must really be the end of it!

[Spanky69]

I'm late to this party, but why do I get the vibe that this is vincent? can we please not have vincent again?

Getting back to your being back thread … Pay double, get your foot in the door and punt that girl at Ginza. J Ice. Tell us about it and if she’s as good as they say I’ll give her what she needs, more money and me. She’s only one though, most probably not enough…


Keen eye. Like herpes, impossible to get rid of. But like Valacyclovir, using the Ignore List feature can reduce irritation symptoms.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?79-Easy-get-useful-information-Thread-Display-Option-Prefix-Search&p=3040327&viewfull=1#post3040327

Just call me a helpful pharmacist.

11Blocko, that’s what you do isn’t it, block me out of your life. The chief instigator of the block thread. Whatever medicine you’re posting about you can take it yourself. I on the other hand take nothing. That’s what being healthy is all about. Eating the right food, exercise and a proper mindset. I bet there would be very few people my age that don’t take medication of some sort, including you. Let me guess, a daily laxative for your number one issue, blockages, mental and physical. At least you’ve toned down your CAPS block which a step in the right direction.


Wow you've never said that before. This must really be the end of it!

Reggie, I’m serious, she deleted her photo from the messaging app and doesn’t respond plus she doesn’t answer my texts. I post comment for your information but in actual fact I don’t care. I’ve got the new WL and that’s how I roll matey. Drop one, activate another. Now I’ve drawn out one of my reserves and I will have to harvest a spare just in case. Time to go looking, but I’m in no rush as I still have three on the go.

Yes the new WL. I could write a novel on how good she is in bed. Suffice to say she doesn’t hop off until she’s cum good and proper. More like rolls off due to exhaustion but you get the drift.

[Footballpunter]

Keen eye. Like herpes, impossible to get rid of. But like Valacyclovir, using the Ignore List feature can reduce irritation symptoms.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?79-Easy-get-useful-information-Thread-Display-Option-Prefix-Search&p=3040327&viewfull=1#post3040327

Just call me a helpful pharmacist.

As always, you are a life saver. Cheers mate.

[Spanky69]

As always, you are a life saver. Cheers mate.

He’s glad he could be of assistance, given the fact he’s usually the one being assisted.

[Spanky69]

Lol there is a hot as fuck girl at ginza who barebacks and last i saw on her social media she has pics of her and her boyfriend together. I think she doesn't respect her BF at all and/or is whorey that she really does enjoy the raw feeling as well.

Yep my new WL mentioned it. Told her I wear a condom. There’s the temptation but given the way I burn through SWs lately there’s no need to take any more risk than is necessary.

I already know she’s not a keeper, possibly the other one too. Time will tell.

[Spanky69]

Say it isn’t so.

Well gents, guess what? She’s unblocked me and is sending. Took a couple of weeks but then again I never really gave up partial hope.

In the meantime I’m working on another SW from out west. Yes she’s Thai and different. Not everyone’s cup of tea actually…

It’s almost getting to the stage where I feel I have to post just to remember all these women.

[Spanky69]

I’m bumping this because this morning she’s come back hot and strong. I know why. The ML business must be very quiet. Very quiet. Someone once said they’ll never delete a guy completely because one day they might need something. A wise perception.

[dotcumdotinyou]

The only reason I don't block you vinnie is I like a bit of fiction every now and then

[Spanky69]

The only reason I don't block you vinnie is I like a bit of fiction every now and then

Read your PM.

If I was a fiction writer I’d be selling my words not giving them away freely for all and sundry to post comment on.

[ColesBag]

What a window licker.

[ColesBag]

Telltale signs she'll jump ship:

She announces it as a "joke"
She's super rude and is on an emotional rollercoaster (blocking & unblocking several cycles)
Only offers hot sex when you give her expensive gifts/restaurant degustation
Disrespects you and mocks you openly
Always rejects certain pleas and requests you have for her, guising it under "play hard to get"
Doesn't communicate directly, always super "wishy-washy"

Sounds familiar?

Oh man. I just had flashbacks.

[Spanky69]

What a window licker.

Given that the above expression is always on your mind, have you ever thought about a second job at a Carwash? Licking windows clean. It’s more of a personal touch don’t you think?

After you’ve progressed and proven your self worth there may be a role licking boots, smelly old runners and even sandals! If you’re lucky that maybe enough to sustain you without even eating. You'll be able to put the money saved towards upgrading to a better class of punt.

[Azninvasion85]

Fifty what, I’m guessing you mean posts? It might be another few more posts, but not many. Don’t you think I’d be doing the bare minimum number of words to get to fifty if that was the case? All I have done is convey my situation. She txt me at five thirty am before I woke up this morning and I know she’s been out last night, just gotten home with her BF and good on her. I already am up and getting ready to do my own thing today otherwise we’d be spending today together. Just like I still have other girls to sort out she has a guy who she has to get rid of too. She told me all about him. He’s half my age and she told me he loves her. I’ve seen various pics of him in the background months ago since Christmas Day and I had already put two and two together. She came out and told me such just like I freely admitted I had other girls. We had a very frank and open discussion about where our feelings are with other people and how we will be letting them go.


I already have her mind and her heart. The rest will follow suit when I’m ready. If anything it shows how calculating we both can be when it comes to our current lovers. We both already have the upper hand in our individual relationships with other people so breaking them off isn’t an emotional roller coaster. I’m already controlling this situation as it’s been planned and she has the weak hand.

I’m not sure how any of you set up your relationships and if you are the dominant person? It’s a choice you either make or you leave it to fate.

So if the bf is half ur age, im guessing she's also probably more then half ur age? OP this whole post sounds quite stalkery. Who cares if u bagged a girl outside of a brothel/ massage place. People are getting laid and getting picked up all the time. Why are u coming onto the forums just to post a 3000 word essay?

[ReginaldBubbles]

If I was a fiction writer I’d be selling my words not giving them away freely for all and sundry to post comment on.

This makes as much sense as most of the shit you sprout.

[Azninvasion85]

I’m just letting it play out. No expectations. I’m not after anything. I’m certainty not sugar daddy material. As for not wanting to be seen in public as a punter put it, I’m sure she isn’t going to wear lingerie for the catch up.

Is this your other account OP?

[Spanky69]

So if the bf is half ur age, im guessing she's also probably more then half ur age? OP this whole post sounds quite stalkery. Who cares if u bagged a girl outside of a brothel/ massage place. People are getting laid and getting picked up all the time. Why are u coming onto the forums just to post a 3000 word essay?

A gym, that’s where we met. Regarding the number of words I post, that’s my choice isn’t it? Are you happy I’ve condensed it down?

Perhaps you’d like zero.

[Spanky69]

This makes as much sense as most of the shit you sprout.

Reggie I’m pretty much over it anyway. It’s getting too much. Far too many women and not enough time. Something has to give sooner or later. I’m thinking my time on this forum.

I’m getting burnt out.

One man cannot continually satisfy so many women. Think about it, feeling pressured to continually perform almost every day. It’s a self pressure I know and I don’t know why I do that. If it’s not the women I pick up it’s the women I punt.

I’m thinking I’ll become religious and practice semen retention. I feel drained and wonder what the meaning of life really is. It’s not an endless pumping journey is it?

There has to be more.

[Spanky69]

Is this your other account OP?

No, I hope your happy with the answer.

[Spanky69]

So we’re kind of back on. She wanted to go out for dinner the other night but it was too short notice. Tomorrow night was discussed.

I’m lacking motivation as I have so many others now. I’m thinking why bother? Yeah she’s attractive and good company but there has to be more.

[dotcumdotinyou]

...meanwhile back at the farm aunt Mable and uncle Jim have found another set of crop circles, Jim turns to Mable and asks "why do they call them crop circles when thar's all manner of shapes in this 'ere darn crop?"...

[11Bravo]

I'm waiting for the news from Lake Wobegon... Now THAT was entertaining...

[Sammael]

I'm waiting for the news from Lake Wobegon... Now THAT was entertaining...

It’s good to see you're “sticking to your guns” by blocking Spanky69.

[Johny77]

It’s good to see you're “sticking to your guns” by blocking Spanky69.

Another Spanky profile(insert eye roll).

[tezzaman18]

Another Spanky profile(insert eye roll).

You are not the only who thinks so .Lol. In fact the same bro has reason to believe he is Twister too. Not forgetting Spanky has not denied he is Vincent888.

[Sammael]

There’s a guy Who Cares, do you know him?

[GoldfishMan]

You are not the only who thinks so .Lol. In fact the same bro has reason to believe he is Twister too. Not forgetting Spanky has not denied he is Vincent888.

Yes. Use the forum's ignore function to get rid of the toxic crap cumming out of this nutcase.

[Sammael]

Yes. Use the forum's ignore function to get rid of the toxic crap cumming out of this nutcase.

Toxic? That’s a rather harsh word Goldfinger. Why the angst? Jealousy perhaps. Look you’re stuck with your lot and so be it. You’ve got your wo-man and I have my crew to keep me entertained. You chose to get married and then cheat on your wife. Your choices remember?

Calling me toxic. Ha, you don’t even know me and yet you’re so free with your aspersions. I love your vitriol, it motivates me to smile. Oh and you’re calling me a nutcase too? I may be cray cray but it’s put me up on top of the bunch of people like yourself and the other hoi polloi. . There’s no need to be upset, it’s just the way things are. You’re down there punting once every decade and I’m punting almost every second day. Some weeks it is every day.

Yep it’s gotta be jealousy.

Do something about it, dump your wife, change jobs and make some decent money. You won’t do that though. You’d rather bitch and moan about me rather than improve your life.

Yep, your choices.

[ScotPassingThrough]

Lmao new one for the Vinny blocklist. “With all my great success and cadre of friends and sexual partners who totally aren’t just punts with delusions, of course I’m here shitposting on 10 different accounts”.

[Johny77]

This is just sad. Vincent aka Spanky aka Sammael, get help.

[Sammael]

Lmao new one for the Vinny blocklist. “With all my great success and cadre of friends and sexual partners who totally aren’t just punts with delusions, of course I’m here shitposting on 10 different accounts”.

Don’t forget the punting and the SW GFs I have in tow. I’m doing lunch, dinner and punting in between today, what about you? That’s enough activity don’t you think?


This is just sad. Vincent aka Spanky aka Sammael, get help.

I will be at the next shop I’m visiting today. Parking could be an issue, I’ll check that out this morning. Now considering I’ve never been there I’d better check their roster too. New shop, new girls, it’s exciting don’t you think?

[Spanky69]

...meanwhile back at the farm aunt Mable and uncle Jim have found another set of crop circles, Jim turns to Mable and asks "why do they call them crop circles when thar's all manner of shapes in this 'ere darn crop?"...



The good news Dotty is that’s she’s still tucked in. Messaging me but I’m not eager on the return. Once you have several on the go there is no pressure on one’s behalf to reply straight away.

Just like WLs and MLs have a plethora of guys hitting them up it’s now my turn to have them chasing me. Now it’s just a matter of planning another date. She’s attractive and entertaining. The sex obviously with her isn’t an issue as I have others. It’s more her friends and their opinion of me that I’m concerned about since they know how I’ve treated her. On again off again, eight times in fact.

I’m always a glass half full kinda guy and I know she is like that too, otherwise why come back?

I’ve already declined excessive monetary gifting so what else is there? PR status? That isn’t happening. So why come back to me? She knows I’m dating others.

She’s a really beautiful person but I’m sorta getting entwined with the others now and I know sooner or later one will want an all in live together relationship.

Last year it was a 24 year old J girl who was 38 years younger now the menu has shifted back over to Thai.

Who knows what card destiny will deal.

[JJBlows]

has anyone dated a WL and have it end up with you getting a sugar mumma??

[Johny77]

has anyone dated a WL and have it end up with you getting a sugar mumma??

Wouldn’t that be great. Let me know where I can find one of those lol.

[JJBlows]

Wouldn’t that be great. Let me know where I can find one of those lol.

Purple at chatswood 60 was showing me photos of her and some punter/boyfriend who she said she bought a $20-30,000 watch for. Was a pic of them two sitting in the boutique shop with the watch in its case posing together.

I was flabbergasted that she dropped that much cash on a bloke.

It wasn't a rolex but some other brand so not sure If they appreciate on value.

[Johny77]

Purple at chatswood 60 was showing me photos of her and some punter/boyfriend who she said she bought a $20-30,000 watch for. Was a pic of them two sitting in the boutique shop with the watch in its case posing together.

I was flabbergasted that she dropped that much cash on a bloke.

It wasn't a rolex but some other brand so not sure I'd they appreciate on value.

No way. It’s nice when the roles are reversed, albeit rare.

[tezzaman18]

Purple at chatswood 60 was showing me photos of her and some punter/boyfriend who she said she bought a $20-30,000 watch for. Was a pic of them two sitting in the boutique shop with the watch in its case posing together.

I was flabbergasted that she dropped that much cash on a bloke.

It wasn't a rolex but some other brand so not sure I'd they appreciate on value.

This would sound like you are telling a Spanky fictional story but your integrity is intact with your fellow brothers ......... as I can corroborate that event .Lol! Lol!Lol! This is fact . But I was not the recipient of this watch.

[Spanky69]

Purple at chatswood 60 was showing me photos of her and some punter/boyfriend who she said she bought a $20-30,000 watch for. Was a pic of them two sitting in the boutique shop with the watch in its case posing together.

I was flabbergasted that she dropped that much cash on a bloke.

It wasn't a rolex but some other brand so not sure If they appreciate on value.

Market value

https://www.chrono24.com.au/

[Spanky69]

This would sound like you are telling a Spanky fictional story but your integrity is intact with your fellow brothers ......... as I can corroborate that event .Lol! Lol!Lol! This is fact . But I was not the recipient of this watch.

A fictional story.

Edited: reason, not allowed to flex as it upsets certain people here.

Perhaps the story will have a happy ending?

Who knows.

[Harp0]

A fictional story.

Edited: reason, not allowed to flex as it upsets certain people here.

Perhaps the story will have a happy ending?

Who knows.
Nobody cares Spanky/Vinnie/Sammuel
Wrap it up already.

[JJBlows]

This would sound like you are telling a Spanky fictional story but your integrity is intact with your fellow brothers ......... as I can corroborate that event .Lol! Lol!Lol! This is fact . But I was not the recipient of this watch.

she tell you to or you the lucky bloke who got the watch?

[Spanky69]

Nobody cares Spanky/Vinnie/Sammuel
Wrap it up already.

I don’t care either, that’s why I deleted the post.

[tezzaman18]

A fictional story.

Edited: reason, not allowed to flex as it upsets certain people here.

Perhaps the story will have a happy ending?

Who knows.

I just said , I can corroborate another member's story (from JJBlows). So it's not fictional. I'm sure other bros have met Purple, too .

In the eyes of so many on this thread I'm sad to say until you come up with a name, a shop, the so-called Mamasan (in your words owns 3 shops) yours is fictional!!!!! Lol. BTW - I KNOW THE ENDING OF THIS STORY . Your's seems to go on and on and on ........

[Spanky69]

I just said , I can corroborate another member's story (from JJBlows). So it's not fictional. I'm sure other bros have met Purple, too .

In the eyes of so many on this thread I'm sad to say until you come up with a name, a shop, the so-called Mamasan (in your words owns 3 shops) yours is fictional!!!!! Lol. BTW - I KNOW THE ENDING OF THIS STORY . Your's seems to go on and on and on ........

I’m not calling your post fictional.

I had started a post about a watch that was given to me by a GF as I had given her a car. I then went onto describe the event.

If I was to say I was given a Rolex in return for giving a BMW I’d get accused of flexing, so I deleted that part of my post and called it fictional.

Now go and accuse me of flexing… I’m waiting.

The ML is real and the shops are real. The reviews are too. If you know the ending then do tell as she only has 16 months to go on her visa.

This thread goes on and on because I’m still dating her, that’s logical isn’t it? I don’t see any other guys on this forum posting about their current SW relationships. Perhaps they should, what do you think?

[Johny77]

I’m not calling your post fictional.

I had started a post about a watch that was given to me by a GF as I had given her a car. I then went onto describe the event.

If I was to say I was given a Rolex in return for giving a BMW I’d get accused of flexing, so I deleted that part of my post and called it fictional.

Now go and accuse me of flexing… I’m waiting.

The ML is real and the shops are real. The reviews are too. If you know the ending then do tell as she only has 16 months to go on her visa.

This thread goes on and on because I’m still dating her, that’s logical isn’t it? I don’t see any other guys on this forum posting about their current SW relationships. Perhaps they should, what do you think?

Nobody cares and your updates have not been requested.

Your thread has been hijacked and we are discussing more interesting things.

[Spanky69]

Nobody cares and your updates have not been requested.

Your thread has been hijacked and we are discussing more interesting things.

Well, you are the guys pushing the thread to the top of the front page. Go you good thing!

[tezzaman18]

she tell you to or you the lucky bloke who got the watch?

She has shown me pics of him - youngish, blond and a tradie. I recall he was a customer. She fell for his looks.

[JJBlows]

She has shown me pics of him - youngish, blond and a tradie. I recall he was a customer. She fell for his looks.

Yeah that's the one, pretty handsome bloke as well, was a roofer from memory.

Do you remember the brand of the watch? Can't remember but had C in it.

[GoldfishMan]

Yeah that's the one, pretty handsome bloke as well, was a roofer from memory.

Do you remember the brand of the watch? Can't remember but had C in it.

Maybe an IWC pilots watch chronograph?

[JJBlows]

Maybe an IWC pilots watch chronograph?

Yea I think it was IWC, now the blokes on a job site rocking a $30K watch from his sugar mamma 😂

[11Bravo]

My first thought when I saw JJBlows's post about the watch, it was like, hmmm... But given he has cred, no doubt, even without tezzaman18's confirmation.

My second thought was I should post a bet on how long it would take topper to post a bigger story. But then, I don't follow the news in Belize, nor do I follow soap operas, just no interest. Besides, as the ole cliche goes, let sleeping dogs lay (I'd use lie but I don't want to be misconstrued). With a dog that constantly shits in the house, you can rub their nose in it every time or just throw them outside in the back yard, closing the door. No shit, no yapping. QED. So I decided to skip so I wouldn't have to open the door and hear the persistent yapping...

But then, a neighbor will mention the yapping, and the follow-on whining "Oh, you doubting Thomas's..." Just proves the other ole cliche, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. So I'll just let Old Yeller silently howl at the moon in the backyard (though it does seem that another permutation met the same fate as Yeller...). Which does go to show my age. :startle:

Myself, I'm just not a branded watch (or anything) type of person. My Swiss watch works just fine, keeps excellent time. I don't have to worry about it. Casio does make a fine watch.*

As for gifts, I've been given many priceless ones, PRICELESS MEMORIES, some of which have lasted decades. One thing I've really learned to appreciate is the LT climes where she does become a person and not simply an orifice.

*For you doubting Thomas's, of course my Casio is a Swiss watch; it was bought in Switzerland. Can't get more Swiss than that. :smile:

And, no, I don't take myself all that seriously... that too has been a priceless lesson.

[Spanky69]

It’s great to see 11Blocko is ignoring my threads. Yes I have bigger stories, my life is full of them. Isn’t living a full life allowed?

It’s seems here everyone is expected to “stay in their lanes”, to conform, to toe the line that a handful of old has-beens want to project onto everyone.

Perhaps I should spend less, punt less and post less. Then request permission to even log in. Would that make you guys happy?

At this very minute I’m chatting to the two WLs and the ML. Next date is Wednesday night with the ML just so you know. It’s quite amazing how she’s accepted me back given the way I’ve treated her. Now I have to decide where we are going. Somewhere in the city but where?

[Zoobender]

It’s great to see 11Blocko is ignoring my threads. Yes I have bigger stories, my life is full of them. Isn’t living a full life allowed?

It’s seems here everyone is expected to “stay in their lanes”, to conform, to toe the line that a handful of old has-beens want to project onto everyone.

Perhaps I should spend less, punt less and post less. Then request permission to even log in. Would that make you guys happy?

At this very minute I’m chatting to the two WLs and the ML. Next date is Wednesday night with the ML just so you know. It’s quite amazing how she’s accepted me back given the way I’ve treated her. Now I have to decide where we are going. Somewhere in the city but where?

Mate no one is dating you. I think that's clear. Please for you own sake and sanity, just write these thoughts in your private blog or dairy.

[tezzaman18]

Yeah that's the one, pretty handsome bloke as well, was a roofer from memory.

Do you remember the brand of the watch? Can't remember but had C in it.

No . I was more curious why she bought it. Was an impulse thing and at that time she had the means to do it - from a windfall. And nothing to do with seeking a PR.

[Spanky69]

Mate no one is dating you. I think that's clear. Please for you own sake and sanity, just write these thoughts in your private blog or dairy.

Strange that 300 posts later this thread is still going. Some of you must think it’s real enough to respond.

Let’s see, this morning I’ve got three chats running with the girls I’m dating this week. The other two are currently on the side as I don’t have enough time or the motivation at present.

You don’t realise how busy a SW is, they don’t have that much free time and neither do I so having several on the go is convenient date wise.
Most punters work a 38 hour week. They tend to do 50. Some work 12 hour days. Then there’s the travel to and from work. Plus they have to get their nails done, have facials, get massages, do their shopping, cleaning etc that leaves little time for dating.

I’d like to see any of you try and work your life around theirs and tell me how much time besides sleeping that you actually spend together.

I find it better to have a few women and not expect large blocks of time with them individually as it isn’t happening.

Makes sense doesn’t it.

[gfohoie]

Sometimes, bringing up someone’s past or work too early can create unnecessary tension, especially when things are still new and exciting. If she wants to share, she will, and if not, maybe it’s better to just focus on what you two have now. It sounds like you already have a deep connection, and that’s what really matters. One of the best things about modern dating is the convenience and flexibility—you can connect with potential matches anytime, anywhere, fitting easily into busy schedules. Whether it’s meeting someone at the gym or exploring different options online, it all comes down to what works best for you. If you're looking to meet up for sex (https://www.tenderbang.com/adult-hookup.html), sometimes a casual approach is the best way to go.

[Burgundy]

Thanks for digging up this slightly humorous, albeit repetitive post for the read.


Sometimes, bringing up someone’s past or work too early can create unnecessary tension, especially when things are still new and exciting. If she wants to share, she will, and if not, maybe it’s better to just focus on what you two have now. It sounds like you already have a deep connection, and that’s what really matters.

If someone isn't willing to share what amounts to a significant portion of their life and the relationship is based on dishonesty then it's a waste of time for everyone involved.

[NicolasCage]

Too many complications and baggages with dating a ML/WL

[JJBlows]

Too many complications and baggages with dating a ML/WL

And lies too.

My only advise is to have fun and not get attached and play them at their own game.

I know a WL who I am raw dogging and Cuming Inside her but regardless of whether I'm exclusive with her (we've fucked outside of work) or she openly does it, she has a BF who she is posting on her social media page, so do you really want to be that guy if your not open to a open relationship with her.

I laugh when I see her posts because she sort of hides him but he is there and I'm seriously hoping he is her best friend for his sake. He looks rich so maybe what they have going for them is okay as he could be seeing other girls but you'd think they would both wear protection or maybe she is just be a cheater.

In hind sight, she doesn't even have to be a WL/ML to get up to that sort of mischief anyways lmao

*fyi don't PM me as I won't disclose her identity

[Niceguy11]

And lies too.

My only advise is to have fun and not get attached and play them at their own game.

I know a WL who I am raw dogging and Cuming Inside her but regardless of whether I'm exclusive with her (we've fucked outside of work) or she openly does it, she has a BF who she is posting on her social media page, so do you really want to be that guy if your not open to a open relationship with her.

I laugh when I see her posts because she sort of hides him but he is there and I'm seriously hoping he is her best friend for his sake. He looks rich so maybe what they have going for them is okay as he could be seeing other girls but you'd think they would both wear protection or maybe she is just be a cheater.

In hind sight, she doesn't even have to be a WL/ML to get up to that sort of mischief anyways lmao

*fyi don't PM me as I won't disclose her identity

The sad reality is that WL's who have a boyfriend will not disclose BBFS to their boyfriends and lie to them saying "I only do it with you (the boyfriend)". An old regular and I mean a old regular would often tell me that she does BBFS with customers but her boyfriend doesn't know. I mean surely he would have to accept the fact she is doing it with customers but maybe does not want to accept it.

And yes, it wouldn't matter if they are a WL or non WL, it happens in everyday life. Couples cheat, get bored blah blah blah. I've been on a few dates with normal girls and I have to say its so much better than dating a WL. I'm not even concerned about the whole sex thing as well. In all honesty, I prefer not to have sex for a while as I am just over it because it has honestly lost its meaning to me. Its like DFK. Kissing a woman you truly love has no meaning after being a punter for close to a decade. Maybe it will come back ? I don't know.

But yeah, keep the emotions in a box. Fuck and leave. That is what I have learned from self experience.

[FangShoe]

Most have a partner of some sort who pays for whatever. From a SW’s perspective why pay for things yourself?

[Burgundy]

Most have a partner of some sort who pays for whatever. From a SW’s perspective why pay for things yourself?

One I dated tried to pay for everything... But I met her outside of work and she was trying to obscure the job from me, so the simping dynamic wasn't really created...

[JJBlows]

One I dated tried to pay for everything... But I met her outside of work and she was trying to obscure the job from me, so the simping dynamic wasn't really created...

Hard to tell for me as she did pay for dinner etc but you don't know if there is an alterior motive to their generosity, who know she could be genuine

[Brad-Pitt]

Hard to tell for me as she did pay for dinner etc but you don't know if there is an alterior motive to their generosity, who know she could be genuine

They playing the "Long Game"

[Burgundy]

Hard to tell for me as she did pay for dinner etc but you don't know if there is an alterior motive to their generosity, who know she could be genuine


They playing the "Long Game"

The ulterior motive/long game being the PR visa surely.

[JJBlows]

The ulterior motive/long game being the PR visa surely.

Yea most likely but she has her BF for that anyways lol

[Candy1234]

Unless you can provide her min 4-5k weekly forget about the girl quitting that easily. I’ve known a few where the dudes willing to give them a $1000 a week to quit, the response was “what can I do with $1000? Nothing” yup a lot of us just cleared $1000ish a week after the robbery tax for work.

[FangShoe]

I booked a Thai WL for an hour and she was still busy so I punted a Chinese WL for an hour at the same brothel while I was waiting. Then I punted the Thai WL for the booked hour. I wanted a second hour with her but didn’t bring enough cash as the three hours wasn’t the plan so she paid for the second hour. She walked outside and gave her cash to the mamasan.

I thought this is strange, never had a WL pay the house for sex and yes there’s always a reason.

It turns out she wanted me to put her up in an apartment in Burwood. I declined because I didn’t want the commitment to one woman so I offloaded her with my mate and he had her at his place for six months.

He’s owned RnT’s, did the home delivery service and could well be a member on here.

[Zenxxx]

It turns out she wanted me to put her up in an apartment in Burwood. I declined because I didn’t want the commitment to one woman so I offloaded her with my mate and he had her at his place for six months.


So free sex for rent for your mate then? Maybe not a bad deal.

[FreddyF]

Dating an ML/WL is only a recipe for disaster.
What good could possibly come of it? Nothing is ever free. You pay now or you pay later

[JJBlows]

So free sex for rent for your mate then? Maybe not a bad deal.

Till she gets comfortable with how she's living with him and then hits him with the "I'm pregnant" line

[JesseMcCartney]

Till she gets comfortable with how she's living with him and then hits him with the "I'm pregnant" line

And its probably not even his...

[JJBlows]

And its probably not even his...

Man, i have witnessed and heard stories of these situations go wrong very quickly because of that exact thing.

[Niceguy11]

Hard to tell for me as she did pay for dinner etc but you don't know if there is an alterior motive to their generosity, who know she could be genuine

There will always be a motive as to what a WL does like paying for dinner or offering sex. 100% she is doing it for her own advantage.

It wouldn’t take long for her to say something along the line “so how do I get permanent residency”

[JJBlows]

There will always be a motive as to what a WL does like paying for dinner or offering sex. 100% she is doing it for her own advantage.

It wouldn’t take long for her to say something along the line “so how do I get permanent residency”

Oh of course, but if your expecting that question to be asked anyways then the whole situation/scenario gets easier to navigate so you get what you can out of it till the ride comes to a end.

[Double_Adapter]

The problem with these type of threads is that it generally degenerates into a fucken witch hunt where every bloke and his fucken dog goes on a hoity toity rampage demonising working chicks and the idea of dating a WL or ML,but truth be told a large percentage of punters are married into sexless and unhappy relationships (the reason why they punt) yet they rarely demonise that fucken setup! and deep down they all fantasise on the idea of dating and fucking a WL with sex on tap.

If you were to ask the wife of any married bloke this question "Is he happy? " this is the response you'd get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUazqfBNs60

And if you were to ask any single guy, divorced guy or any married bloke that has just been kicked out of the house by his wife this question "Are you happy?" this is the response you'd get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkh-c5xZPR4

.....just saying.

[JesseMcCartney]

Man, i have witnessed and heard stories of these situations go wrong very quickly because of that exact thing.

If she claims she is pregnant, how do you even prove its not yours until she gives birth. I'm guessing most guys will just take her word for it and continue to support her (financially)

[JesseMcCartney]

There will always be a motive as to what a WL does like paying for dinner or offering sex. 100% she is doing it for her own advantage.

It wouldn’t take long for her to say something along the line “so how do I get permanent residency”
You guys sound like you're talking from experience. Must've been involved with a few WL's before? Maybe you can give a young player some advice about these things.

[JJBlows]

You guys sound like you're talking from experience. Must've been involved with a few WL's before? Maybe you can give a young player some advice about these things.

In hindsight Stay the fuck away lmao.

It's like playing with fire, you have fun till one day you get it wrong and then you get burnt

[tezzaman18]

I just don't buy all this !!! This OP joined yesterday and has racked up 12 posts!!! What BS question is that??? Can't be so naive.

Also , just look at what he has posted to date. Chasing for 50 posts ???


If she claims she is pregnant, how do you even prove its not yours until she gives birth. I'm guessing most guys will just take her word for it and continue to support her (financially)

[tezzaman18]

I just don't buy all this !!! This OP joined yesterday and has racked up 12 posts!!! What BS question is that??? Can't be so naive? If he is a young bloke , there is no way he is unaware of these sort of things. Must have been asleep in school. Lol

Also , just look at what he has posted to date. Chasing for 50 posts ???

Seeing quite a few baby members popping up .


If she claims she is pregnant, how do you even prove its not yours until she gives birth. I'm guessing most guys will just take her word for it and continue to support her (financially)

[Axeman123]

The problem with these type of threads is that it generally degenerates into a fucken witch hunt where every bloke and his fucken dog goes on a hoity toity rampage demonising working chicks and the idea of dating a WL or ML,but truth be told a large percentage of punters are married into sexless and unhappy relationships (the reason why they punt) yet they rarely demonise that fucken setup! and deep down they all fantasise on the idea of dating and fucking a WL with sex on tap.

If you were to ask the wife of any married bloke this question "Is he happy? " this is the response you'd get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUazqfBNs60

And if you were to ask any single guy, divorced guy or any married bloke that has just been kicked out of the house by his wife this question "Are you happy?" this is the response you'd get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkh-c5xZPR4

.....just saying. I don't fantasize 'bout free sex on tap with a " lady" . I fantasize about my wife letting me sit down and enjoy a morning coffee with my guitar on my one n only day off without getting into my ear.

[FangShoe]

So free sex for rent for your mate then? Maybe not a bad deal.

He offloaded her after 6 months and I didn’t ask anything about their living arrangements or where she went as I was glad to palm her off. In fact we never discussed her afterwards.

So now another one has just popped up and this morning she lied to me about something. I actually thought she was honest given the fact I’d been honest with her. I took it on face value her whole story but she slipped up. If they tell one lie they’ll surely tell another, not that I’d ever have a relationship with her and I’ve had plenty of opportunity but why saddle yourself to a potential liability?

Sooner or later they all want to give up work and be supported. Let’s face it, percentage wise how many can successfully retire?

It’s very easy to catch and release so why ever be committed?

[sync3d3d]

He offloaded her after 6 months and I didn’t ask anything about their living arrangements or where she went as I was glad to palm her off. In fact we never discussed her afterwards.

So now another one has just popped up and this morning she lied to me about something. I actually thought she was honest given the fact I’d been honest with her. I took it on face value her whole story but she slipped up. If they tell one lie they’ll surely tell another, not that I’d ever have a relationship with her and I’ve had plenty of opportunity but why saddle yourself to a potential liability?

Sooner or later they all want to give up work and be supported. Let’s face it, percentage wise how many can successfully retire?

It’s very easy to catch and release so why ever be committed?
Vinnie 🤦

Please lengthen your message to at least 15 characters.

[JJBlows]

I don't fantasize 'bout free sex on tap with a " lady" . I fantasize about my wife letting me sit down and enjoy a morning coffee with my guitar on my one n only day off without getting into my ear.

Jesus fucking christ, is that how it ends up for all you married folks?

[Abracadabra]

Jesus fucking christ, is that how it ends up for all you married folks?

'fraid so .............

[themort]

Dating an ML/WL is only a recipe for disaster.
What good could possibly come of it? Nothing is ever free. You pay now or you pay later

Well for me, I met one, dated her, she immediately wanted to leave the game, so she spent her own money to retrain, and we bought her a shop that she runs, and she makes plenty of money. With her business and my business, we managed to buy some property and we have it pretty good. We're married now.

I definitely know smart ones that are in the game for a purpose but know if and when you find someone you can't go in in that industry. Equally I know girls now on the wrong side of 40 who have been in it too long and have never made the transition to do something else, and I wish they would.

[Burgundy]

Well for me, I met one, dated her, she immediately wanted to leave the game, so she spent her own money to retrain, and we bought her a shop that she runs, and she makes plenty of money. With her business and my business, we managed to buy some property and we have it pretty good. We're married now.

If you don't mind me asking - how old was she and how long had she been in the game before quitting?

[themort]

If you don't mind me asking - how old was she and how long had she been in the game before quitting?

Mid-30s, and 3-4 years?

I think there's 2 types of girls who do it - those who have a purpose and don't let it get in their head, and those who can't find a way out.

[ditchtheboss]

Mid-30s, and 3-4 years?

I think there's 2 types of girls who do it - those who have a purpose and don't let it get in their head, and those who can't find a way out.

It will always get to her head. Different girls deal with it differently. I had one somewhat long relationship with a WL. It didn’t work because of lack of trust not so much on my side but on hers.

She did not want to go back to her previous life. She had saved a nice amount of money but not sufficient to retire. I was banking her and I did not have a problem with it. I told her to keep her money.

The problem we had was the fact that she met me in a brothel and that could not leave her head and caused us to go our separate ways. We had long conversations about it. It is very ironic because one can say that once a WL always a WL so I should be paranoid about her but that is not a true comment in my experience and it is only skin deep.

She had a deep mistrust of men and unfortunately i don’t think that any amount of counselling can ever solve.

My lesson and strong advice is to pay, fuck and leave. That is better for everyone involved.

[GoldfishMan]

Jesus fucking christ, is that how it ends up for all you married folks?

Not always, but for us who are punters it is more likely to be bad. The fact that we punt means that we have a higher sex drive than people who don't. Then any little thing that could deprive you of sex at home would become a big problem.

Eg. Wife getting old, lack of sex drive, doesn't want to have sex that often because she's not that into you, etc.

Not only that, YOU could lose interest in her as she gets on with age. This is the biggest problem I reckon.

It's all about sex for us, whereas for normal folk it could be maybe only a 20% factor. Their marriages could still work without that 20%.

That's why I always say, do your best to choose the right girl to get hitched with and hope that you were lucky with the choice.

A few things can't go wrong, other things are more about luck. Her age must be at least 10 years your junior because this makes it aligned with the male and female biological clock. If you're 40, you marry a late-20s to 30 yo girl. By the time she gets to menopause at around 50, you'd be in your 60s. Your own sex drive would've slowed considerably, and you would've had 20 odd years of great sex at home with her. That's a great thing, no?

Looks, body shape, etc... of course always go for the girls who suit your taste to avoid yourself losing interest in her.

If you get all these things right, you'd still need a bit of luck for the other things that could go wrong.

[tezzaman18]

Bro . You could not have summed it up any better!!!

I had uncle who gave me this piece of advice, that 8 years is about the ideal age gap . Thought it was a joke as he gave me no reasons . But how wise he was wise for the reasons you stated. Lol.

Some of us punt. Others choose to have affairs . The more decisive ones end their marriage and move on. That's life.


Not always, but for us who are punters it is more likely to be bad. The fact that we punt means that we have a higher sex drive than people who don't. Then any little thing that could deprive you of sex at home would become a big problem.

Eg. Wife getting old, lack of sex drive, doesn't want to have sex that often because she's not that into you, etc.

Not only that, YOU could lose interest in her as she gets on with age. This is the biggest problem I reckon.

It's all about sex for us, whereas for normal folk it could be maybe only a 20% factor. Their marriages could still work without that 20%.

That's why I always say, do your best to choose the right girl to get hitched with and hope that you were lucky with the choice.

A few things can't go wrong, other things are more about luck. Her age must be at least 10 years your junior because this makes it aligned with the male and female biological clock. If you're 40, you marry a late-20s to 30 yo girl. By the time she gets to menopause at around 50, you'd be in your 60s. Your own sex drive would've slowed considerably, and you would've had 20 odd years of great sex at home with her. That's a great thing, no?

Looks, body shape, etc... of course always go for the girls who suit your taste to avoid yourself losing interest in her.

If you get all these things right, you'd still need a bit of luck for the other things that could go wrong.

[Axeman123]

Not always, but for us who are punters it is more likely to be bad. The fact that we punt means that we have a higher sex drive than people who don't. Then any little thing that could deprive you of sex at home would become a big problem.

Eg. Wife getting old, lack of sex drive, doesn't want to have sex that often because she's not that into you, etc.

Not only that, YOU could lose interest in her as she gets on with age. This is the biggest problem I reckon.

It's all about sex for us, whereas for normal folk it could be maybe only a 20% factor. Their marriages could still work without that 20%.

That's why I always say, do your best to choose the right girl to get hitched with and hope that you were lucky with the choice.

A few things can't go wrong, other things are more about luck. Her age must be at least 10 years your junior because this makes it aligned with the male and female biological clock. If you're 40, you marry a late-20s to 30 yo girl. By the time she gets to menopause at around 50, you'd be in your 60s. Your own sex drive would've slowed considerably, and you would've had 20 odd years of great sex at home with her. That's a great thing, no?

Looks, body shape, etc... of course always go for the girls who suit your taste to avoid yourself losing interest in her.

If you get all these things right, you'd still need a bit of luck for the other things that could go wrong. If I had to decide to marry again I'd make sure the lady could drive or had the confidence to learn.

[FangShoe]

I’m of the opinion that a man only needs a casual sex partner and a housekeeper.

[Misohappy]

Man, i have witnessed and heard stories of these situations go wrong very quickly because of that exact thing.

Yep for sure. I know one Viet ML who got pregnant and used the opportunity to extract money off multiple guys and claiming they were the fathers.
Funny thing was, while she was pregnant, she was playing victim and still getting with couple new guys (not the fathers) - one was dumb enough to give her 40-50k 😅 and she blocked him not long after 🤣.

Moral of story - never trust a WL/ML. I would say 90% have basically sold their soul.

It just never ends well.

[Double_Adapter]

You attract what you use to impress.

If a chick uses her body to impress, she will attract blokes interested in her body only ie until they catch the feels for the chick then start posting threads about falling in love with a WL/ML.

If a bloke uses money to impress, he will only attract chicks interested in money, so don't expect the chick to discover or appreciate any of your other hidden talents and attributes.

It's that fucken simple! be careful with what you show the world or what you show or do to impress chicks in a RnT or Brothel. The only thing chicks should be impressed by is the size of your cock and how you wield the sword.

[Mr.Robot]

Well for me, I met one, dated her, she immediately wanted to leave the game, so she spent her own money to retrain, and we bought her a shop that she runs, and she makes plenty of money. With her business and my business, we managed to buy some property and we have it pretty good. We're married now.

I definitely know smart ones that are in the game for a purpose but know if and when you find someone you can't go in in that industry. Equally I know girls now on the wrong side of 40 who have been in it too long and have never made the transition to do something else, and I wish they would.

Does she know you still punt?

[11Bravo]

Moral of story - never trust a WL/ML. I would say 90% have basically sold their soul.

Damn, maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket. I've always had good luck when I've trusted them. IME, no difference in "that" population than the general population. I don't flash my cash, but I also don't take my wallet with me when showering alone as I have no reason to mistrust the vast majority. Basic caution sufficient.


You attract what you use to impress.
If a bloke uses money to impress, he will only attract chicks interested in money, so don't expect the chick to discover or appreciate any of your other hidden talents and attributes.

If you're seen as an ATM, can you really be surprised that they'll keep wanting to make withdrawals, and not just from your sperm bank either.

IME, you give trust and respect, it is returned. I'm often told that I'm a "nice" guy. Sure some cynics here would substitute "simp", but I'd disagree, just BASIC civilized behavior with another PERSON. As my mate once said, "if guys like us are seen as nice, what does that tell you about the average customer?"

Or maybe it's just a benefit of being (you say old, I say mature), Asians respect their elders. They would certainly have NO problem outrunning me.

[Skidmark]

Does she know you still punt? i think his missus is the mamasan at Chanel at home he’s a rich Indian 😂

[de69]

Yep for sure. I know one Viet ML who got pregnant and used the opportunity to extract money off multiple guys and claiming they were the fathers.
Funny thing was, while she was pregnant, she was playing victim and still getting with couple new guys (not the fathers) - one was dumb enough to give her 40-50k 😅 and she blocked him not long after 🤣.

Moral of story - never trust a WL/ML. I would say 90% have basically sold their soul.

It just never ends well.

ouchhhh thats rough

yea i am sure it does exist but also such a small% that you meet a WL/ML that is true and genuine

one who is smart and only in it for the short term with plans of a proper future career and would quit once she achieves this and would quit earlier for you....

but finding a girl like that is like finding the next ronaldo or messi lol

[Misohappy]

Damn, maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket. I've always had good luck when I've trusted them. IME, no difference in "that" population than the general population. I don't flash my cash, but I also don't take my wallet with me when showering alone as I have no reason to mistrust the vast majority. Basic caution sufficient.



If you're seen as an ATM, can you really be surprised that they'll keep wanting to make withdrawals, and not just from your sperm bank either.

IME, you give trust and respect, it is returned. I'm often told that I'm a "nice" guy. Sure some cynics here would substitute "simp", but I'd disagree, just BASIC civilized behavior with another PERSON. As my mate once said, "if guys like us are seen as nice, what does that tell you about the average customer?"

Or maybe it's just a benefit of being (you say old, I say mature), Asians respect their elders. They would certainly have NO problem outrunning me.

Inside the shop - 90% of them are good, as its their job to be good and courteous for the $$$.
When they are outside of the shop and in a relationship with you where they are not getting paid $$$ for their time, its a totally different story.
The ML I mentioned in my previous comment had plenty of reviews on this forum saying how great of a person she was.

[themort]

Does she know you still punt?

tbh I don't really. I'm on all the wechats, and lurk here but looking is really all I do.

[GoldfishMan]

Yep for sure. I know one Viet ML who got pregnant and used the opportunity to extract money off multiple guys and claiming they were the fathers.
Funny thing was, while she was pregnant, she was playing victim and still getting with couple new guys (not the fathers) - one was dumb enough to give her 40-50k 😅 and she blocked him not long after 🤣.

Moral of story - never trust a WL/ML. I would say 90% have basically sold their soul.

It just never ends well.

A working girl's job is to extract money from the customer. How she gets the job done doesn't really matter. Sex, cuddling, sob story to get a "loan", etc. Maybe you get turned on by sob stories, who knows.

And you gotta understand how they think. If you're a customer who has now paid a lot more than you'll ever pay even if you were the most loyal customer going to see her daily, that's the end of the game for you. You don't get rewarded for loyalty, you get blocked because she's already extracted maximum benefit from you.

[11Bravo]

Inside the shop - 90% of them are good, as its their job to be good and courteous for the $$$.
When they are outside of the shop and in a relationship with you where they are not getting paid $$$ for their time, its a totally different story.
The ML I mentioned in my previous comment had plenty of reviews on this forum saying how great of a person she was.

Point taken.

One thing when it's day-to-day, but another when it's "end of life". I was thinking of the expat BFL's that would condo sit for me while I was traveling, the longest a month when I was 1/2 a world away. When I returned, the only thing missing was dust. Never bothered to record their passport details... they could easily have disappeared. Or the expat BFL's who used my guest room for a week or two while they were waiting to go home, having not renewed their apt leases. Never bothered with a suitcase inspection when they headed to the airport. Yes, they got free room, I got home cooked (from scratch) dinners. Mutually beneficial.

AND this off-shore, where simple unmarried co-habitation was illegal, to say nothing about P4P. So any LE involvement, that's DOUBLE trouble...

Lastly, I certainly don't condone the ML's actions, but... I also understand it's not like she could run down to CentreLink and apply for benefits either... So I don't see it as "an opportunity to extract money", more of a "considering the future..."

Bottom line: as I said, their "population" equal to the general population...

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On further consideration, I don't know how she got pregnant. OK, I DO KNOW how she got pregnant, but not the FULL details. Gold-digger looking to entrap someone, or naive and believing "we have a future, no need for a condom..." until the rabbit died. There's a reason providers come to OZ for "work", and returning home with a "mixed" package not exactly the bonus one would be looking for, especially in the Asian "not my blood" culture.

So those raw-doggies, are you going to be willing to submit to a paternity test freely without a paternity suit, or... looking to duck and run...

I wouldn't contribute, but I also wouldn't be throwing stones either...