Slowdown in punting reports due to cost of living crisis?

[kpopcity]

Noticed a drop in after reports on all forums across the board. Is it just me or is cost of living affecting punters which is resulting in less punts?

And if thats the case, why aren't shops dropping prices? (More of a half rant half question tbh)

[Niceguy11]

I think you are right bro. I have noticed a slight drop in how busy shops are during the week with Fridays and Saturdays normally being a bit busier. But when it comes to mid week punting, shops seem to be quiet. Earlier in the week, I was in a 2 hour booking with a regular and only heard the door buzz once as I was in a room near the entrance. Personally for me, my punting has been business as usual but in terms of the cost of living, it most certainly has a impact on shops. One of the signs is that when I entered the shop, the girls were already walking out to do a line up which is normally not the case but maybe because the shop was quiet, they wanted my business despite already having a booking.

[Painterdan]

It has definitely slowed with a number of girls taking a break as going in and sitting around is not good for them or their mental health.

As for dropping prices, like any other business, who is going to want to cop the hit. The shops have their expenses and the girls also have a price they want. Some shops are even closing during the week just to cut expenses.

[JuneC]

Heck yeah! Mortgage payment, school fees, grocery, car repayment, wife presents, travel definitely slowed me down. Plus increase of punt fees and extras

[hornyman]

Yes the cost of living crisis has definitely affected how much I punt.

[GoldfishMan]

I've definitely put a tight lid on it for sure. Apart from a crazy 3 month period 3rd quarter last year, I've punted only 4 times from Jan 2023 through to now. Hard to justify the spend once you've stopped for a while and had time to reflect on the $$$ value that you're pouring into it.

Hard to imagine the shop's would bring prices down. It will be a last resort, only used if they suffer catastrophic loss of business.

[Kiryu0]

I've been punting way less too. So I'm always going back to girls I know will deliver rather than waste on trying new girls... It's been tough...

[personaa]

Some are still increasing their rates. Look at Mia at 42G, now at 310 per hour!

[Rdlr84]

Prices would be based on demand. Surely punting has slowed down for most of us, give it enough time and the prices will drop to adjust to the demand.

[DownUnda]

1 Ltr of Orange juice is no around 9AUD and also most prices around groceries 20-30% more. Punting has also been more expensive with relatively the same or less services so well

[Spanky69]

Perhaps it’s the same old, same old girls.

How many reviews can a sex worker get?

Basically they individually provide the same service to everyone. There might be a slight variation between punters experiences but that’s about it. Then it’s up to the “punters elation” to put a different spin on the rehashed session and write about it if they can be bothered.

[poida]

‘Normalised’ inflation of prices, definitely aint coming down. Once its baked in then prices become a everyday norm. People will just end up punting less or seek better value.

[Veets]

Only 2 punts from myself so far this year and I’ve walked away from 2 places not wanting to spend precious $ on lesser option or expectation!
I even overheard another guy in the waiting room say nope I’m out
Keep it gents

[GoldfishMan]

‘Normalised’ inflation of prices, definitely aint coming down. Once it’s baked in then prices become an everyday norm. People will just end up punting less or seek better value.

I think the biggest problem with lowering prices is they then have to have a second bite of the bullet to bring them back up again. Every time they do price hikes, they pay for it by losing customers. The prospect of having to go through that again when times are better must be a deterrent for them to reduce prices.

[JuneC]

When i calculated my 2023 punt I would have been able to afford that necklace my wife has been nagging me! and for 2024 that ring she's been asking me! oh well YOLO

[open_minded]

thats the way to go

[dotcumdotinyou]

The lag has only just begun, there are a lot of people coming of contracts over the rest of the year and they're going to be hit hard when they have to renegotiate with there lenders. Rents are also going higher, so even if you don't have a mortgage you're still coping it from interest rates. The other problem is inflation is still high and the reserve will probably have to increase rates before the end of the year so people aren't spending. Retail and hospitality is already in a recession they're 6% down in the last quarter and that's going to get worse in this quarter. Restaurants can't put their prices up so they're reducing portions, at an Italian restaurant I used to go to I'd only order the lasagne as it would fill me up, the last time I went it was half the size it used to be.
I've only had 3 punts this year and have no interest (for the moment) to go again specially at the current prices.

[GoldfishMan]

Nice. You got your priorities right. This is the way...

Otherwise, Wife = all the expenses involved in punting. But none of the sex that comes with punting.
Well, I thoroughly enjoy punting, honest to God I do. 25 years of it and I'm still getting the itch once in a while. But you gotta face the facts, the money you spend at this hobby is literally the definition of "dead money". You can't sell your experiences or enjoyment for a cent if you needed to, but you can sell the wife's jewellery. , The jewellery is a real, it has intrinsic value. The experience is just that, it's only something you can take to your grave with you, nothing more.

Let's not go down this rabbit hole any further. All we need to be doing is be real about the money we spend on this and don't try to hypnotize ourselves into thinking otherwise.

[Stubbies4Lyf]

Well, I thoroughly enjoy punting, honest to God I do. 25 years of it and I'm still getting the itch once in a while. But you gotta face the facts, the money you spend at this hobby is literally the definition of "dead money". You can't sell your experiences or enjoyment for a cent if you needed to, but you can sell the wife's jewellery. , The jewellery is a real, it has intrinsic value. The experience is just that, it's only something you can take to your grave with you, nothing more.

Let's not go down this rabbit hole any further. All we need to be doing is be real about the money we spend on this and don't try to hypnotize ourselves into thinking otherwise.

Peculiar insinuation that you can sell off something you don't own aside, I completely disagree with the notion that material possessions have more intrinsic value than pleasurable experiences.

Don't think you can shut the rabbit hole after making such a controversial and paganistic statement.

[holi_day]

I am feeling the financial stress these days with high interest rate. Large part of my household income goes to mortgage.

The main justification for the punting expense is that punting has tremendous benefits to my well-being both mentally and physically. It helps me to perform better with my work and progress better with my career. I do think that this is worthwhile investment.

I always allocate a certain portion of my income to punting and I make annual budget and stick to it. I plan my punting activities based on the budget which determines how often I punt, how long and what price points is acceptable. As a result of this, I haven't seen the legendary J Ice from GC yet as it's out of my price point.

[MrPB]

Going to sound like an echo here.. but cost of living definitely has made me think twice about punting. A free online video or an expensive outing is one click away.

Because of my reduced punting, I generally visit my regular girls resulting in less reports online.

That being said, I have tried other girls and shops a while ago I've almost forgotten the sensation and feeling being with them; leading into some forgotten potential reviews...

I think something has to change for me to become a regular punter again. Either the shops get their pricing lowered, cost of living gets lowered, or the shops offer more for the exact same amount of money.

[chemistry84]

Retail Sales figures point to less consumption. Boomers with mortgages paid off/high wealth are the only ones spending and I don't think many of them are punting as much.

I'd say average punter is anywhere between 25-45 (my opinion - don't flame me lol) and that demographic has definitely slowed down from the shops I've spoken to. Some of the shops in Parramatta (Massage) tell me it's a lot quieter. Sometimes 1-3 customers. The popular shops are still getting foot traffic and some have increased prices to make up for the lost foot traffic (360/276 CBD). Other girls I've seen also tell me they are not as busy (also again not sure how much the girls are playing poker face to create that girlfriend experience lol).

[woodland]

I've been punting way less too. So I'm always going back to girls I know will deliver rather than waste on trying new girls... It's been tough...

I think this is it. People are punting with their regulars, so there's no need to write up new reports.

[Maxxx13]

Times are tough for all of us. We are all going to make choices to keep within our comfort zones. I am happy to see my regular, no need to take chances on a potentially dud encounter. However reviews do give information for us to take a calculated risk, so don’t stop with the reviews!

[schloong]

I think this is it. People are punting with their regulars, so there's no need to write up new reports.

That says it all for me Bro woodland...

[andrewv]

The media has not been reporting on the thousands of fixed-rate mortgages that were signed up at 2% long ago which are now all converting to 7% or more variable rates.

Many people today need to find an extra $1000 to $2500 a month to pay the jump of 5% in interest rate alone!!! From their after-tax incomes.

[local]

Noticed a drop in after reports on all forums across the board. Is it just me or is cost of living affecting punters which is resulting in less punts?

And if thats the case, why aren't shops dropping prices? (More of a half rant half question tbh)

Market value ?

My own work which normally doesn't deal with the public has been effected by the slowdown, but its a major worry as I see it for Australia in general. We are really suffering the effects of stagflation, but nobody really wants to admit it. It might not be here now, but just around the corner.

Look at the financials of the banks and you might see something which is not publicly commented on, sure they make billions, but look at their ready cash reserves (which really is not cash as such). The figures show an increasing rate of mortgage difficulties which technically are defaults, but they are trying to hold of on repo's so not to be the first to cop shit over it.

Yet, is the real estate boom over ?

I have always stated "never by into a unit building till it reaches it 7th year" as by then the building issues either are in the courts or been there. Nowadays this is extremely relevant.

There is a nasty side effect of the last couple of years booming, the extremely poor quality of renovations which after the 6 years warranty, will create so many more issues not in apartments, but it 95% it will be kept quiet even by the press.

Most major manufacturing has moved offshore, the blue collar work force we have now is too small and too spoilt.

Even the great usa is turning on it allies which only more show for the shitbags in government now (may 2024) are cozying up to the marxist ideals of the stupid lazy society of the latest gens.

the majority chinese sex industry in australia isn't even locally driven....

Oh I should check out the aussie sex side of things, I suspect they are doing better and meeting their market demand.

So who really has enough time to do reports ? (I am trying to retire and just keep getting boringly busier).

[trampslikeus55]

If the cost of living is not effecting your lifestyle then you are very lucky, a drug dealer or a theif. Or you could have successfully organised your life so congratulations. The next step in this cycle will be that punt gets dearer, not cheaper. The good girls will move around. The good shops will charge more. The band is being stretched 😎

[yunglean]

The price has to go down or girls are gonna be out of work

[Double_Adapter]

The price has to go down or girls are gonna be out of work

The only 2 things needing to go down is a chick and the zipper on your pants

[kpopcity]

Market value ?

My own work which normally doesn't deal with the public has been effected by the slowdown, but its a major worry as I see it for Australia in general. We are really suffering the effects of stagflation, but nobody really wants to admit it. It might not be here now, but just around the corner.

Look at the financials of the banks and you might see something which is not publicly commented on, sure they make billions, but look at their ready cash reserves (which really is not cash as such). The figures show an increasing rate of mortgage difficulties which technically are defaults, but they are trying to hold of on repo's so not to be the first to cop shit over it.

Yet, is the real estate boom over ?

I have always stated "never by into a unit building till it reaches it 7th year" as by then the building issues either are in the courts or been there. Nowadays this is extremely relevant.

There is a nasty side effect of the last couple of years booming, the extremely poor quality of renovations which after the 6 years warranty, will create so many more issues not in apartments, but it 95% it will be kept quiet even by the press.

Most major manufacturing has moved offshore, the blue collar work force we have now is too small and too spoilt.

Even the great usa is turning on it allies which only more show for the shitbags in government now (may 2024) are cozying up to the marxist ideals of the stupid lazy society of the latest gens.

the majority chinese sex industry in australia isn't even locally driven....

Oh I should check out the aussie sex side of things, I suspect they are doing better and meeting their market demand.

So who really has enough time to do reports ? (I am trying to retire and just keep getting boringly busier).

I will have to agree with you on the face the the Chinese sex industry in Aus is not purely locally driven.

Every time I step into Ginza, when I wait for the girls, every other punter sitting in the punting room has been Chinese or East Asian - I don't think ive actually bumped into any punters non-asian. Maybe thats just me and its a coincidence but yea its definitely catered towards a different crowd compared to say your local thai massage place.

[JuneC]

i've had to cut back on date night with the wifey to sneak in some punts..even the annual family holiday. I need a
second job!

[CharlieM]

I will have to agree with you on the face the the Chinese sex industry in Aus is not purely locally driven.

Every time I step into Ginza, when I wait for the girls, every other punter sitting in the punting room has been Chinese or East Asian - I don't think ive actually bumped into any punters non-asian. Maybe thats just me and its a coincidence but yea its definitely catered towards a different crowd compared to say your local thai massage place.

Have been keen to try out Ginza for a while. Did I understand correctly, but do punters all wait in the same waiting room together? If so, this doesn't sound right for top tier Asian shop. This old Italian is definitely not going now. I would stick out like a fly drowning in glass of milk.

[JuneC]

shit! so GINZa allows indians. you lost me there

[bummer]

I will have to agree with you on the face the the Chinese sex industry in Aus is not purely locally driven.

Every time I step into Ginza, when I wait for the girls, every other punter sitting in the punting room has been Chinese or East Asian - I don't think ive actually bumped into any punters non-asian. Maybe thats just me and its a coincidence but yea its definitely catered towards a different crowd compared to say your local thai massage place.

There is of course another side....
In the last few weeks I have received messages from a few "retired" ladies. These have been different original nationalities, but basically they either met a husband or had a kid and in all cases thought they had set themselves up never to work again. Well seems things are getting a it tough out there. The offers have been to meetup and see what happens/what might be arranged. This is only early stages, hang on for the long ride brothers.

[rubit moore]

The price has to go down or girls are gonna be out of work

Fuck ‘em. They get large amounts of cash each day, tax-free, contribute fuck all to this country apart from handjobs and sex and just suck the life out of your finances. It’s got way out of my price range here, I can’t see how continually forking out the likes of $300 to $500 per hour is affordable. Good for you if you can do it. Who gives a fuck what I think anyway haha. The Glory Days are well and truly behind us.

[kpopcity]

No 5 marrickville just posted ladies photos on there wechat update (instead of the usual text roster). I guess business is slow enough they need to amp their marketing since this is the first time ive seen them upload girl photos

[Spanky69]

When i calculated my 2023 punt I would have been able to afford that necklace my wife has been nagging me! and for 2024 that ring she's been asking me! oh well YOLO

You still can, make it a pearl necklace, just as nature intended.

[kpopcity]

Fuck ‘em. They get large amounts of cash each day, tax-free, contribute fuck all to this country apart from handjobs and sex and just suck the life out of your finances. It’s got way out of my price range here, I can’t see how continually forking out the likes of $300 to $500 per hour is affordable. Good for you if you can do it. Who gives a fuck what I think anyway haha. The Glory Days are well and truly behind us.

Also from personal preferences, quality have gone way down after covid.

Before covid, 150/hr shops out west you could find girls in their 20-30s. Now you are lucky if you can find someone 45.

Also dont get me started on the standard, gold, diamond service bs - which will cost 250/hr without rimming or pussyslide.

Also i feel like girls are uglier now too. If we talk pure beauty, Lara probably takes it at Ginza right now. But if you had Lara on in 2018-2019 when Jin, Lulu, Daisy etc were on, she wouldnt get anywhere close to top tier.

The fact they cancelled working holidays visa for chinese girls doesnt help the pussy price. 45k gdp per capita quality japanese girls isnt flying 2000km here to work at rates lower than back home.

[Bakergeoff]

Mortgage has gone up so much that I am so poor now, I just come here you read after reports and live vicariously through others...

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[Spanky69]

Mortgage has gone up so much that I am so poor now, I just come here you read after reports and live vicariously through others...

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All I can suggest is don’t date a ML unless she believes Monopoly money is real. They you’re in with a chance.

[massage addict]

Yeah i have drop off my punting for sure. The prices haven't have not reflected the service post covid. Defiantly seeing my regular girls more often and not searching for new girls as a bad punt really hurts these days. I am down to 1 punt ever week and a half to 2 weeks, from 4 to 5 a fortnight.

[JuneC]

Just date an ML and promise a PR then you can get buy one get other night free

[Maxxx13]

i've had to cut back on date night with the wifey to sneak in some punts..even the annual family holiday. I need a
second job!

Ha, JuneC, I know what you mean

[Niceguy11]

Times are tough for all of us. We are all going to make choices to keep within our comfort zones. I am happy to see my regular, no need to take chances on a potentially dud encounter. However reviews do give information for us to take a calculated risk, so don’t stop with the reviews!

Yep, its the reason why I have avoided new WL's. A few have been good but have either disappeared off rosters or returned home. Regulars are great because you know what you'll be getting. The WL is happy and your happy so its a win win situation lol.

[JC74]

The cost of living issue is real, also uncertainty of the economy is worrying, I don't think it's getting better. If we have less punters' spending/demand, price might come down.

[JC74]

Yet, is the real estate boom over ?

I have always stated "never by into a unit building till it reaches it 7th year" as by then the building issues either are in the courts or been there. Nowadays this is extremely relevant.

There is a nasty side effect of the last couple of years booming, the extremely poor quality of renovations which after the 6 years warranty, will create so many more issues not in apartments, but it 95% it will be kept quiet even by the press.


Well said, local, totally agree with you on the property sector, we will definitely see more buliding issues in the next few years. Plus, the recent heavy rainfall is not helping.

[schloong]

I had a complete reno done on my place last year & it was done by a relative who has his own business. Excellent first class job & great to move back into a "new" home...

[harmsup_jai]

Ive been focusing on my watch collection and realized I’m able to pick up many more time pieces from not punting as much.

[Coxswain]

I am thankful for my disability support pension. Gets me by

[Spanky69]

I am thankful for my disability support pension. Gets me by

I’d be happy with just the parking sticker. Perhaps when I’m 95 I’ll apply for one, the sticker that is. Though I’m seriously thinking of living right in the CBD. It’s so convenient. After dating that ML and seeing how she has her digs set up, there is no need to drive anywhere except on an adventure.

[Spanky69]

Ive been focusing on my watch collection and realized I’m able to pick up many more time pieces from not punting as much.

I haven’t been able to watch any ads as I just don’t have the time. I’ve tried time and time again but it escapes me.

[Spanky69]

I had a complete reno done on my place last year & it was done by a relative who has his own business. Excellent first class job & great to move back into a "new" home...

A reno done by a relo. Is there any recourse?

[CharlieM]

Dual income Married(partnered) people in their mid fifties up, who no longer have a mortgage, live in their own home and whose children have left home are the ones that are not feeling the pinch as much. I fall into this category and by the odd punter I've bumped into, can only imagine their are heaps of us punters in a similar situation.

Punting is a vice like smoking and gambling. Cigarettes are up to $65 a packet and smokers still smoke. And I guess the same can be said for punters and gamblers. Most of us will keep on punting regardless and that's why the price for a punt keeps increasing. I browse the private adds and the prices are higher than ever and that can be said for shops as well. Most of us will cut back in some way. Some will chose cheaper alternatives. Some will punt less frequently and some will shorten the times of their visit to say from 1hour to 45 or 30 minutes.

[Spanky69]

Dual income Married(partnered) people in their mid fifties up, who no longer have a mortgage, live in their own home and whose children have left home are the ones that are not feeling the pinch as much. I fall into this category and by the odd punter I've bumped into, can only imagine their are heaps of us punters in a similar situation.

Punting is a vice like smoking and gambling. Cigarettes are up to $65 a packet and smokers still smoke. And I guess the same can be said for punters and gamblers. Most of us will keep on punting regardless and that's why the price for a punt keeps increasing. I browse the private adds and the prices are higher than ever and that can be said for shops as well. Most of us will cut back in some way. Some will chose cheaper alternatives. Some will punt less frequently and some will shorten the times of their visit to say from 1hour to 45 or 30 minutes.

I read somewhere there was a 15 min blow n go. You only have to drop your pants or unzip.

Now that’s gotta be cheaper surely,

[Coxswain]

I had a successful evening, a gap in the rain. Was gifted with 140 cans bottles, in less than 3 hours.Redeemed them. Got my 6$ aldi special... yum. 1 litre small talk Shiraz. Feeling chirpy. Go find some bumpers. See if I can find Valerie. Have some loving in the Wentworth park showers. Enjoy the portables outside , while they do up the toilet block

[Coxswain]

Taking the asbestos away. , slowly

[JuneC]

If only i can stop punting i could be on a European holiday with the family each year

[ryanpumper]

I had a successful evening, a gap in the rain. Was gifted with 140 cans bottles, in less than 3 hours.Redeemed them. Got my 6$ aldi special... yum. 1 litre small talk Shiraz. Feeling chirpy. Go find some bumpers. See if I can find Valerie. Have some loving in the Wentworth park showers. Enjoy the portables outside , while they do up the toilet block

I want a go at this Valerie whore. Need to experience a homeless gobby.

[Raybo]

Have been keen to try out Ginza for a while. Did I understand correctly, but do punters all wait in the same waiting room together? If so, this doesn't sound right for top tier Asian shop. This old Italian is definitely not going now. I would stick out like a fly drowning in glass of milk.

For 310, you may have to wait in the common waiting room. If you turn up right on time at 479 they will usually tell you to go to the room they have allocated and wait for your girl there.

[kpopcity]

For 310, you may have to wait in the common waiting room. If you turn up right on time at 479 they will usually tell you to go to the room they have allocated and wait for your girl there.

Last time i was at 310, 3 dudes in the waiting room. Last time i was at 479, 4 dudes in the waiting room.

All looked like young international students from China

[JuneC]

shit even in asia 2 hour punt is worth $400 fml

[OmniMime]

Noticed a drop in after reports on all forums across the board. Is it just me or is cost of living affecting punters which is resulting in less punts?

And if thats the case, why aren't shops dropping prices? (More of a half rant half question tbh)

For me, my story-writing become obviously lessened to post-pandemic period. Job promotions, more working hours that makes me too tired to bother to punt, and having moved to outside the city far to the west. To this day, of all the free time I could mange to spare, I've mostly been at Mirage Massage. But, yeah, I should have been putting down my story on Kiko from Mirage. Just as extensive, or exceeding, that of my punts with ex-Kaede.

[Spanky69]

Go find some bumpers.

What you need to do is get a cordless vacuum and walk the streets of Sydney harvesting the bumpers. It’d save a lot of back breaking work bending over picking them up. Then when you get enough to resell to the common folk instead of dem buyin’ da chop chop you can scale up to a sweet street sweepa. Then you’ll be rollin’ in the spending dosh.

Think big not small.

[_D_]

Noticed a drop in after reports on all forums across the board. Is it just me or is cost of living affecting punters which is resulting in less punts?

And if thats the case, why aren't shops dropping prices? (More of a half rant half question tbh)

Defiantly looks like it has slowed down, even talking to some girls after punts a lot are saying they are having slow days.

[JuneC]

yes cost of living has done that and the kids needs are getting bigger

[Coxswain]

Through the window curtain rain , long night gone.. yellow day speed shivers melt away. At six o'clock I'm going down. Coffees hot and the toast is brown, hey steetsweeper , clear my way.. sweethearts breakfast the best In town

[Coxswain]

Not for me. Breakfast, or politley dining at the y. Put me off for still to this day. A old club on bayswater road. Couple of Eccies , caught the ferry back to her place at manly. Went down a lot of bush.. fme it was butter milk fermenting with a hint of gorgonzola . Didn't want to embarrassed her told said I need to piss. Went too the toilet, nearly vomited. Gulped some water. Bong in the lounge room with her. Escaped. Last time I ever put my nose next to that odour. 30 years ago. That's life

[Coxswain]

Not for me a cordless vacuum. My olanzapine may wear off. Find myself in a room eating punnets of pineapples , sculling celery juice, licking the lead paint on the walls, wondering how I can have a dick as thick as a coke can. Content with what I have

[Coxswain]

Yep , the cost of living. Even tetsuya wakuda.... 35 years

[Coxswain]

Good on him , he done well. A humble man. I wish him all the best. A legend

[Coxswain]

He deserves to retire well. A genuine gentlleman

[jethro751]

My whitegoods sales are down due to the current climate so I have to be able to discount where anyone is really struggling. Also there is a HIV story going around and this has dampened things until we get to the bottom of it.

[Spanky69]

My whitegoods sales are down due to the current climate so I have to be able to discount where anyone is really struggling. Also there is a HIV story going around and this has dampened things until we get to the bottom of it.

New or factory seconds, what brands? Your PM is locked. It’s a business I’m interested in.

[Spanky69]

I see one privates rates have gone up from $300 to $350 ph yet she still works for less elsewhere in a brothel. If things were great why take a pay cut? Obviously they are not.

[Spanky69]

When shops ramp up their advertising it's an indication of tougher times.
Some are offering day time discounts
Follow postcode pricing
Some great shops and girls in the burbs

My ex ML did have two very slow days last week. Like $16 an hour one day and $20 an hour two days later. These are the hourly rates on what she made for an 8 hour day. They were two days spent at the same shop.

Obviously she suffers when the boss moves her around to the quiet shops. In reality I don’t believe a girl should be moved from shop to shop on the pretext of boosting trade on a dead site.

If a shop is in a cluster of the same shops then competition is tough. Better a stand alone with nothing nearby.

A good attractive girl shouldn’t have to suffer based on her boss’s inability to run a good business.

[Spanky69]

Agree 1000%....
Some girls aren't aware of better shop alternatives
Have pointed several in the right direction

I’ve been in shops where girls tell other girls in other shops to come over. It’s busy etc. I’m not sure if there’s any policy to stay onsite if it’s quiet? What reward is there for staying in a barren place? They don’t get a minimum retainer so they can be shafted by their boss, correct?

[massage addict]

Punters are punting heaps less. Its evident in lack of after reviews

[bobothecow]

with recent rent increase I'll be slowing down to once a fortnight, if things get bad probably once a month, rather keep my money for travels, though i was in Bangkok last week, and out side of the BJ bars the value difference wasn't that much cheaper... that said i don't do FS.

[Endo123]

Punters are punting heaps less. Its evident in lack of after reviews

To be fair, a part of that is because they aren't that many new girls coming in as before it seems.

[dotcumdotinyou]

The governments reducing the number of student visas right now so there won't be much new talent coming in for a while.

Its a double edged sword for me, happy cause my rent won't go up too much but sad cause less new talent arriving

[Endo123]

It also depends which nationality of student visas are being reduced / increased. Since alot of ML/WL seem to come from certain countries.

[hornybastard123]

honestly, the incoming girls are definitely not as good as the 2015s (when I first started). it feels like you have to fork out an insane amount of money to have a chance to bang some hot chick (and even then, you might get ripped off). depressing, probably it's for the best though, makes it easier to quit this viice

[Spanky69]

honestly…depressing, probably it's for the best though, makes it easier to quit this viice

There is no turn around matey, you keep going till you crash and burn then get eaten by the female of the species.

It is the way.

[Spanky69]

The governments reducing the number of student visas right now so there won't be much new talent coming in for a while.

Its a double edged sword for me, happy cause my rent won't go up too much but sad cause less new talent arriving

I’m not a renter but I think it’s a good way to be.

You’re not strapped to a mortgage for one thing.

You can get decent digs for not much coin. Doesn’t have to be a big place and therefore not much maintenance on your days off. Live in the city buy your meals, shops close buy and very convenient.

[faruk]

I’m not a renter but I think it’s a good way to be.

You’re not strapped to a mortgage for one thing.

You can get decent digs for not much coin. Doesn’t have to be a big place and therefore not much maintenance on your days off. Live in the city buy your meals, shops close buy and very convenient.

Yeah but your landlord/agent can come do inspections any time. Very invasive and inconvenient.

[ColesBag]

Cigarettes are up to $65 a packet and smokers still smoke.

No wonder vaping has exploded like it has. Not me though, I like my lungs clear for breathing oxygen & inhaling pussy.

[Spanky69]

Yeah but your landlord/agent can come do inspections any time. Very invasive and inconvenient.

Just have a topless woman walking around in a Gbanger when they turn up and they won’t even look at anything else. In all seriousness just change the locks and tell them to make an appointment. When I used to rent decades ago that’s what I always did. Who wants a previous tenant entering with a spare key?

[Endo123]

No wonder vaping has exploded like it has. Not me though, I like my lungs clear for breathing oxygen & inhaling pussy.

Not a smoker myself but cost aside I imagine the novelty of having your smokes smell like strawberry or whatever colourful favour has a bit to do with it. I usually avoid second hand smoke from smokers but from vapers depending on their favour I don't mind / even enjoy it.

[JC74]

No wonder vaping has exploded like it has. Not me though, I like my lungs clear for breathing oxygen & inhaling pussy.

I quit smoking mainly because of the costs, I don't like vaping neither, taste too artificial.

[schloong]

I gave up the smokes about 4 or so years ago after about 40+ years of smoking. Wasn't enjoying it anymore as I was just having a few puffs & chucking it. I was surprised at how easy it was - 99.9% mental state I'm told. A lot of my mates still smoke & it doesn't bother me...

[Spanky69]

I gave up the smokes about 4 or so years ago after about 40+ years of smoking. Wasn't enjoying it anymore as I was just having a few puffs & chucking it. I was surprised at how easy it was - 99.9% mental state I'm told. A lot of my mates still smoke & it doesn't bother me...

There’s plenty of smokes still around, just look down in the gutters and on the footpaths, I’d have been wary during covid but now that the hoax is clear you’re good to go!

[The Sampler]

Interestingly despite punters punting less and shops experiencing declining customers, the shops and privates are still jacking up the prices.

[spanner]

So they hike up the price when they have less customers and they also hike it up when there is more demand. Sounds like a lose lose situation for us.

I have been doing repeats with some of the girls that I know won’t be a dud. So haven’t been doing new ARs.

[ColesBag]

Interestingly despite punters punting less and shops experiencing declining customers, the shops and privates are still jacking up the prices.

They're subject to the same price rises as the rest of us.

[Climax598]

Interestingly despite punters punting less and shops experiencing declining customers, the shops and privates are still jacking up the prices.
The price increase is to make up lost income to cover present expenses and maintenance a profit. Is a lost cause for girls/shops/punters for ever price increase. Less punters = lost income = less income for girls and shops. With unemployment is increasing. We know Telstra is cutting 10% of staffs and other companies are following, the bad times are coming.

[The Sampler]

The price increase is to make up lost income to cover present expenses and maintenance a profit. Is a lost cause for girls/shops/punters for ever price increase. Less punters = lost income = less income for girls and shops. With unemployment is increasing. We know Telstra is cutting 10% of staffs and other companies are following, the bad times are coming.

This is where i say it is 'interesting'.

Because it doesn't follow normal supply vs demand economics.
Normally when there's less demand, and much supply prices go down.
Prices go up when theres more demand and less supply.

So it doesn't make sense to me that shops and privates jack up prices to make up for having less customers.

I do know inflation in general is causing cost of living rises for everyone including shops, MLs and WLs.
So i get it, punting costs go up too. But I have noticed that the cost of extras increasing by multiples rather than percentages.

The only thing i can think of that is sustaining this is infact that there is still a similar number of punters still punting and are cashed up enough to cover the gap.
Otherwise same economic principles we would see a supply decrease in the form of shops closing and ladies going out unemployed which thankfully we are not seeing...yet.

[Climax598]

This is where i say it is 'interesting'.

Because it doesn't follow normal supply vs demand economics.
Normally when there's less demand, and much supply prices go down.
Prices go up when theres more demand and less supply.

So it doesn't make sense to me that shops and privates jack up prices to make up for having less customers.

I do know inflation in general is causing cost of living rises for everyone including shops, MLs and WLs.
So i get it, punting costs go up too. But I have noticed that the cost of extras increasing by multiples rather than percentages.

The only thing i can think of that is sustaining this is infact that there is still a similar number of punters still punting and are cashed up enough to cover the gap.
Otherwise same economic principles we would see a supply decrease in the form of shops closing and ladies going out unemployed which thankfully we are not seeing...yet.
I believe things goes up will eventually come down just that it haven't bit hard.
Good time never last. But they are some rich punters will pay any price just to have the girl to help them release them juice.
I know the economic principal are out of the window in sex industry. For a men once the dick is having a erection all economic principal is out he will find a way to punt maybe less or shorter time or see an old milf that happens.

[trampslikeus55]

This is where i say it is 'interesting'.

Because it doesn't follow normal supply vs demand economics.
Normally when there's less demand, and much supply prices go down.
Prices go up when theres more demand and less supply.

So it doesn't make sense to me that shops and privates jack up prices to make up for having less customers.

I do know inflation in general is causing cost of living rises for everyone including shops, MLs and WLs.
So i get it, punting costs go up too. But I have noticed that the cost of extras increasing by multiples rather than percentages.

The only thing i can think of that is sustaining this is infact that there is still a similar number of punters still punting and are cashed up enough to cover the gap.
Otherwise same economic principles we would see a supply decrease in the form of shops closing and ladies going out unemployed which thankfully we are not seeing...yet.
I think you are mistaken to think it is a supply and demand business. Good WL/ML can set there rates and get work. Profile the top K girls at Ginza. 8 hours a day booked taking $225 or so an hour. Probably close to $2K per day. 4 to 5 days per week. Now it is quiet. Let's say bookings down 50% then they are on $1K per day. Do you think they will drop the rate, fuck twice as much to make the 2K per day. Not likely. And the shop isn't going to want that either.
There is a lot of good shops doing it tough at present. They need to keep girls working but can't afford to lose good girls for cheap punters. And the cheap shops can't afford to pay good girls to come and work at cheap rates. It is the punter that has to reset. Unfortunately, the good times are over for many.

[kayofa]

It's not just cost of living. Apparently scams and online banking hacks are still rampant so more and more people losing their life savings. All their hard earned money disappearing into thin air, no one has enough spare change for punting - both sexual and gambling.

[kayofa]

I think you are mistaken to think it is a supply and demand business. Good WL/ML can set there rates and get work. Profile the top K girls at Ginza. 8 hours a day booked taking $225 or so an hour. Probably close to $2K per day. 4 to 5 days per week. Now it is quiet. Let's say bookings down 50% then they are on $1K per day. Do you think they will drop the rate, fuck twice as much to make the 2K per day. Not likely. And the shop isn't going to want that either.
There is a lot of good shops doing it tough at present. They need to keep girls working but can't afford to lose good girls for cheap punters. And the cheap shops can't afford to pay good girls to come and work at cheap rates. It is the punter that has to reset. Unfortunately, the good times are over for many.

Like Uncle Scrooge McDuck said, "Money has to perform its function and circulate, otherwise it'll be worthless!"

With all the sex workers making all that money I wonder if they ever let the money recirculate back into the market?

On the other hand there's some potential good news - Chinese investment property owners in Brisbane and GC are selling their properties in droves to fund their failing businesses back in China, however the bad news is that the money is flowing out overseas instead of being recirculated locally.

Money hoarded in banks with zero interest are the worst contributors to recession. The only type of stimulus needed in this country is the drop in pricing to get people to start spending confidently.

[CharlieM]

I'm no economics expert. But one thing I have noticed is that since Covid there has been a significant spike in the cost of living. I can't think of anything that hasn't significantly increased in price over the past few years. From electricity, rents, groceries, mortgages,fuel etc.
I have had to raise my prices for my services in my business to partially curb the effects of the increase in costs to myself. The way I look at it is that Shops are facing the same dilemma and so are the working girls. They are not immune to the effects of inflation because its the "sex industry". Obviously the cost to run a shop today is significantly higher than it what it was in 2020. Your local Thai restaurant isn't dropping their prices even if business hasn't been so good lately. Its the opposite, they have increased their prices to meet the increase in costs.

As a good mate of mine would say back in the day when we were fucking streetwalking WLs up at the Cross "wank wank money in the bank"

[GoldfishMan]

There are so many things that affect prices that are beyond the supply and demand theory. In fact, the only type of product that I can think of where you can actually apply that theory perfectly 100% are fad/collectible items like beanie babies.
Anything else, there are other factors that affect prices. For punting, it sure as heck ain't a perfect curve.

As The Sampler rightly said, there are punters out there who can still afford to pay the high prices. Or there are punters who have made this hobby a compulsive habit, who punt even when they can't really afford it. On the other side, there are punters who are so financial stuck that even cutting prices by 50% they wouldn't punt.

Also need to consider, what are the alternatives to punting? Pull a girl on Tinder?

When the supply demand curve is so "noisy", then the shops will be asking "why would I cut my prices by 20% of it would not bring in more than 20% in sales volume?".

[Jack-Jack]

Interesting thread......anyone else notice a bit of drop in the quality of girls coming in either bit bigger size or slightly older than what we used to be blessed with?

also - any regulars that go kyoto/sakura and notice they have caved a bit in that some of their super young girls now at the $310 mark when they used to casually put them at like $330?

[faruk]

Also need to consider, what are the alternatives to punting? Pull a girl on Tinder?

Jerk off to porn. Each jerk off saves you $200-300.

[kpopcity]

Interesting thread......anyone else notice a bit of drop in the quality of girls coming in either bit bigger size or slightly older than what we used to be blessed with?

also - any regulars that go kyoto/sakura and notice they have caved a bit in that some of their super young girls now at the $310 mark when they used to casually put them at like $330?

Yep, i noticed that too. C Chance was 350 or 360/hr, J Mion last time was 360 or 380/hr I think. C Venus who I never expected to come back to Ginza is now back, so Im guessing she needs the money.

In terms of quality for sure - nothing compares to pre-covid. But I would also argue this could be a shift due to immigration. Precovid, a lot of girls in the shops were from mainland China, which has a low gdp per capita. Many young premium girls are willing to work for 250-300/hr (1000 rmb), with pretext they can get a lot of customers. Raking in 5000 rmb a day is a monthly salary in their home city. Since immigration policy is making it hard for them to get visas, a lot of Visas now go to people from India, Nepal, Vietnam and Japan (when I walk around George St, you notice a lot more Indians and international student Viets). And the thing with Japan is, if a true Japanese stunner stays in Japan, she probably can make a lot more than Aus since the prices isnt too different. There isnt really much incentive for the beautiful girls to leave Japan and come to Aus due to them being a wealthier nation than rest of Asia.

However, that being said, K Miki is still 380/hr hahaha. We would truely be in a recession if she drops her prices

[Spanky69]

It is the punter that has to reset. Unfortunately, the good times are over for many.



You want a nice car you pay the money.
You want a nice house you pay the money.
You want a nice WL/ML you pay the money.

That’s how it is.

For a female to offer her body to a guy for $250 or $300ph is acceptable I’d say. She’s engaging in a high risk activity and should be rewarded accordingly. Not just her body is on offer but her psyche.

If the guys cannot pay the hourly rate then go work a second job, go hustle, go sell your grandmother.

Don’t bitch about it.

Next thing you’ll be wanting cheap cars, cheap fuel, cheap alcohol and even cheaper women!

Nothing is going down only up.

Remember that.

[Spanky69]

Jerk off to porn. Each jerk off saves you $200-300.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking when I was called a “jerk off” yesterday, but hey at least I’m saving money. That’s a joke son, a joke…

[GoldfishMan]

Quality of girls cumming here is probably related to the strength of the AUD. On the 5-year charts, you can see how weak our currency has been against the CNY, KRW, JPY, etc. Even against the JPY where our currency is on the up trend, it's only because the JPY is tanking very badly. SGD/JPY is an even steeper curve than AUD/JPY, for example.

[Niceguy11]

There are so many things that affect prices that are beyond the supply and demand theory. In fact, the only type of product that I can think of where you can actually apply that theory perfectly 100% are fad/collectible items like beanie babies.
Anything else, there are other factors that affect prices. For punting, it sure as heck ain't a perfect curve.

As The Sampler rightly said, there are punters out there who can still afford to pay the high prices. Or there are punters who have made this hobby a compulsive habit, who punt even when they can't really afford it. On the other side, there are punters who are so financial stuck that even cutting prices by 50% they wouldn't punt.

Also need to consider, what are the alternatives to punting? Pull a girl on Tinder?

When the supply demand curve is so "noisy", then the shops will be asking "why would I cut my prices by 20% of it would not bring in more than 20% in sales volume?".

Exactly bro. When punting becomes too much you either run out of money or start dipping into savings.

[schloong]

A simple equation for me - if I can't afford to punt, I don't...

[Double_Adapter]

Jerk off to porn. Each jerk off saves you $200-300.

For the bros. doing it tough, here's a few words of encouragement from a prolific masturbator

https://youtu.be/oapoCDhcY2g?si=Qm8sWdqkPmPQhS5t

[Dmam]

Microeconomics theory has long incorporated spending on vices and essentials into its supply/demand curve analysis. It has always been known that vices and essentials have what are known as inelastic demand curves. If something is heavily desired/needed and substitutes are imperfect, then the demand curve will be inelastic. Nothing is perfectly inelastic but other things will be sacrificed to a point.

Cigarettes are a good example. People always prioritise spending on addictions. Look at how much successive governments have tried to tax away that addiction and studies prove that it was the graphic advertisements including as to impotence that did far more to change behaviours than the enormous price rises.

Petrol and medicines have inelastic demand curves. You need petrol for your car and other things will be sacrificed if you need your car to go to work.

The US Government learned this the hard way with the War on Drugs. When supply is restricted and prices go up, a crack addict does not wake up in the morning and say “Jeez, need to cut down on my crack consumption”. They find a way, legal or illegal, to finance their habit. This is why crime rates shot up. Suppliers, knowing the demand is inelastic will risk it all to enter the market.

Punting is relatively inelastic. Of course not perfectly so, but people want it and substitutes (your hand, Tinder) are imperfect. What stops a lot of the spend is that many guys have significant others and it is harder to hide the spend when money is tighter. If they were left to their own devices, they would prioritise the spend.

Also, the popular cauc privates are doing fine. There are a lot of people in the East and lower North Shore with paid off mortgages and there is a lot of money still sloshing around those communities. Iin other areas, yes business will be slower, but there will always be a strong market. It is why people pay ridiculous amounts in countries where it is illegal.

[Spanky69]

I think the going rate for sex varies with the suburb, just like fuel for example.

[thepoonter]

I notice N5M has discounts now if you book early in advance and Ginza has a few WLs at $280/hr now. Probably due to less demands from punter

[Footballpunter]

So I've been getting conflicting answers when I ask both WLs and shops. Some told me it's been really quiet while others told me they are still getting 90-100% everyday. But the fact that N5M is starting a discount probably means that in general it's not going so well. Perhaps it's a consolidation period where the popular girls get even more business while punters trying to get the most out of their now-limited funds while the less popular ones goes quiet.

[massage addict]

One of regulars of at least 2 years told me last week after a nude hand job session " sorry its not $50 any more honey" Oh, how much is it? She says $70 or $80. Fuck i only have a 3 pineapples and a blue swimmer on me, which I mistakenly pulled out of my pocket to give her the standard pineapple. So, I give her another one, and ask for change. She leaves, comes back, and gives me $20. mmmm... I guess it s now $80 for a nude handy. Fuck me a 60% price rise. I normally pay $100 for b2b and Daty, or a head job. I didn't ask how much that was now, $160? I will never know as I will not be returning to see her again. Its a shame as she gave an incredible part 1, and part 2 was above average as well.

[Icegodofhungary]

I’m in a fortunate position at the moment where I can afford a regular punt, though money is precious enough right now that I don’t want to feel like I’ve wasted it on a dud punt. I’ve found a shop where the track record of good to bad is ver favourable and pretty much sticking to that- not trying further afield even though I appreciate I might be missing that greener grass on the other side.

And even then I am tending to repeat visit favourites more or as much as than taking a risk on someone new.

Trying to give something back by posting a few ARs.

[faruk]

I spoke to a regular ML who told me that Sunday was very quiet for the whole shop. I was surprised given the weekend should normally be quite busy, and it wasn't bad weather or anything.

[RO1312]

One of regulars of at least 2 years told me last week after a nude hand job session " sorry its not $50 any more honey" Oh, how much is it? She says $70 or $80. Fuck i only have a 3 pineapples and a blue swimmer on me, which I mistakenly pulled out of my pocket to give her the standard pineapple. So, I give her another one, and ask for change. She leaves, comes back, and gives me $20. mmmm... I guess it s now $80 for a nude handy. Fuck me a 60% price rise. I normally pay $100 for b2b and Daty, or a head job. I didn't ask how much that was now, $160? I will never know as I will not be returning to see her again. It’s a shame as she gave an incredible part 1, and part 2 was above average as well.

Yep… that will be counting me out too

[Spanky69]

I spoke to a regular ML who told me that Sunday was very quiet for the whole shop. I was surprised given the weekend should normally be quite busy, and it wasn't bad weather or anything.

The punters on fixed incomes are most probably suffering the most. Where they’d have some free money to punt now they don’t as the cost of living has gone up.

[Kroid19]

So I've been getting conflicting answers when I ask both WLs and shops. Some told me it's been really quiet while others told me they are still getting 90-100% everyday. But the fact that N5M is starting a discount probably means that in general it's not going so well. Perhaps it's a consolidation period where the popular girls get even more business while punters trying to get the most out of their now-limited funds while the less popular ones goes quiet.

The discount only applies for bookings before 4pm

[GoldfishMan]

So I've been getting conflicting answers when I ask both WLs and shops. Some told me it's been really quiet while others told me they are still getting 90-100% everyday. But the fact that N5M is starting a discount probably means that in general it's not going so well. Perhaps it's a consolidation period where the popular girls get even more business while punters trying to get the most out of their now-limited funds while the less popular ones goes quiet.

It's just the same "dynamics" as usual, only now it is highlighted by the lack of volume. Popular girls will always be solidly booked out under most conditions because there "should" be enough volume to fill up their slots (no pun intended!). Then the "spill-over" volume would go for the less popular ones. At the moment, what we're seeing is the volume of the spill-over is a lot less than before so you end up with this stark contrast of some girls being booked out, some girls sitting idle.

If you start to see top stars like J Ice or C Chance etc, be available because of lack of punters, that means some sort of all encompassing economic calamity would've happened. Thankfully that hasn't happened (yet?).

[Spanky69]

It must be hard for some.

[schloong]

Hey massage addict - that's a real bummer mate. It certainly proves one thing: you are just an ATM to her so I'd be doing exactly what your'e doing. Vote with your feet! She may get the hint if business drops off dramatically :surprise:

[Spanky69]

I’m big on recycling, do you think they’d barter for a few thousand aluminium cans?

[faruk]

It's just the same "dynamics" as usual, only now it is highlighted by the lack of volume. Popular girls will always be solidly booked out under most conditions because there "should" be enough volume to fill up their slots (no pun intended!). Then the "spill-over" volume would go for the less popular ones. At the moment, what we're seeing is the volume of the spill-over is a lot less than before so you end up with this stark contrast of some girls being booked out, some girls sitting idle.

If you start to see top stars like J Ice or C Chance etc, be available because of lack of punters, that means some sort of all encompassing economic calamity would've happened. Thankfully that hasn't happened (yet?).

This makes sense. Those who are the spill overs want the most value for their money, so instead of seeing some other girl available, they would rather hold onto their cash and come back another day to see the popular girl they wanted.

[Spanky69]

This makes sense. Those who are the spill overs want the most value for their money, so instead of seeing some other girl available, they would rather hold onto their cash and come back another day to see the popular girl they wanted.

Hold onto their load and their wad? Keep both for another day? It’s one way of punting…

[MrPB]

On another note, has anyone notice how there's a bit more consistent advertising from the shops, and they're a little more active in this forum?

[GoldfishMan]

On another note, has anyone notice how there's a bit more consistent advertising from the shops, and they're a little more active in this forum?
I've noticed that they each have their own modus operandi. Like 42G / N5M, they just love to bump their positive reviews. Along with most of the RNT joints.
The Ginzas and CBD Style don't do this though.

[Footballpunter]

I've noticed that they each have their own modus operandi. Like 42G / N5M, they just love to bump their positive reviews. Along with most of the RNT joints.
The Ginzas and CBD Style don't do this though.

I noticed that trend as well. Some shops will bump certain girls' AR to signal that they are working. However, they don't do this for every girl they have in the line up. Which lead me to wonder, are those the girls who are more free than others? Is that why they only decide to bump their reviews?

It kinda makes sense right? If a girl is already 90% booked, there should be no need to advertise anymore.

[Thomas Crown]

Only 2 punts from myself so far this year and I’ve walked away from 2 places not wanting to spend precious $ on lesser option or expectation!
I even overheard another guy in the waiting room say nope I’m out
Keep it gents

Love this attitude.

[Folcis]

On another note, has anyone notice how there's a bit more consistent advertising from the shops, and they're a little more active in this forum?

Definitely. I don't mind it in general, but I get irritated when they spam the after report threads.

[massage addict]

mistakenly posted the same thing twice.

How do you delete posts?

[massage addict]

Hey massage addict - that's a real bummer mate. It certainly proves one thing: you are just an ATM to her so I'd be doing exactly what your'e doing. Vote with your feet! She may get the hint if business drops off dramatically :surprise:

We are atm`s to them all, but in return we expect good service. The price increases in percentage terms in this industry over the last 3 years is massively higher than any other service or item out there. They need to wake up to themselves.

[Footballpunter]

I just saw some prices above $1000 - $1500 on private escort websites...

Yes, some of them are quite hot, but are they really THAT hot...

[schloong]

I noticed that trend as well. Some shops will bump certain girls' AR to signal that they are working. However, they don't do this for every girl they have in the line up. Which lead me to wonder, are those the girls who are more free than others? Is that why they only decide to bump their reviews?

It kinda makes sense right? If a girl is already 90% booked, there should be no need to advertise anymore.

I regard it as lazy marketing as they don't put much effort into their operations. Just my 2 cents worth...

[GoldfishMan]

I just saw some prices above $1000 - $1500 on private escort websites...

Yes, some of them are quite hot, but are they really THAT hot...

Those agencies have always had higher priced girls. I don't see that as being caused by this inflationary period.
For example, back when the agencies started out more than 10 years ago, MOC had a virgin girl that cost thousands an hour (25k I think). There were also supposedly really hot ones going for above $1k an hour but I've never tried them.

To see the impact of inflation, you have to look at the lowest priced girls. And right now, the lowest priced girls are going for about $500 /hr. I've seen $480/hr being advertised on some girls in the other agencies.

I remember during COVID and right after it, 2020 - 2022, the price was $450/hr. Then they jacked it up to $550 last year, and now it looks like they've had to lower their prices.

Agency girl prices are definitely going lower.

[stallionmachine123]

Due to COL I stick to my regular list and not really keen to try new places or ML.

I guess it’s not a punt if you already know what you are getting 😊

[Spanky69]

Cost of living.

Basically most people are comfortable with their lot in life. They’re happy to stay where they are, they’re not willing to go the extra mile or work double their normal weekly hours. People say life is already difficult, that it’s ok here and they complain that a push to achieve anything more is just a difficult struggle. You only have to drive around on the weekend and see people blow a pineapple on squashed avocado and a latte. Why aren’t they working to get a better life?

Without struggle nothing gets achieved.

Without struggle the cost of living wins.

[Mr_KB666]

Everywhere seems to be slow now, cafes & restaurants aren't as busy. When I have caught an uber recently they were saying the same, people just aren't spending as much as they used to. Personally I have cut way back on visiting massage shops to focus on paying off the mortgage that little bit quicker.

[faruk]

Everywhere seems to be slow now, cafes & restaurants aren't as busy. When I have caught an uber recently they were saying the same, people just aren't spending as much as they used to. Personally I have cut way back on visiting massage shops to focus on paying off the mortgage that little bit quicker.

Very sensible thing to do. Mortgage now and punt later.

[kpopcity]

Hmmmm

22 rydalmere just jacked up their prices

[tommyb]

N5M now offering discounts on bookings... bit far from me but hopefully their sister store in gladesville follow suit too!

[Dmam]

At Michelle’s in Potts Point is now closed on some evenings during the week. It is closed tonight. They decide on the day of. I asked what was going on and they said there is not enough business this winter and it is the first time they have done this since they opened at that location many years ago.

[mrblack]

Maybe they should lower prices and increase volume ��

[Dmam]

Maybe they should lower prices and increase volume �� I think the Cauc Aussie, European, and South American MLs that work there would try their luck at private before they accepted less money in this environment.

[local]

Maybe they should lower prices and increase volume ��

Thats supply and demand, but their implementation will probably result in extra and maybe permanent closure by pricing themselves out of the market.

[wcukewa]

I don't think demand is going down. Just last week, was stuck in traffic on Cleveland street near front door of ginza. In the 3~4min I was waiting for the lights, saw at 2 enter and 1 leave.

[punter185]

The lag has only just begun, there are a lot of people coming of contracts over the rest of the year and they're going to be hit hard when they have to renegotiate with there lenders. Rents are also going higher, so even if you don't have a mortgage you're still coping it from interest rates. The other problem is inflation is still high and the reserve will probably have to increase rates before the end of the year so people aren't spending. Retail and hospitality is already in a recession they're 6% down in the last quarter and that's going to get worse in this quarter. Restaurants can't put their prices up so they're reducing portions, at an Italian restaurant I used to go to I'd only order the lasagne as it would fill me up, the last time I went it was half the size it used to be.
I've only had 3 punts this year and have no interest (for the moment) to go again specially at the current prices.

Yeh not many punts this year. Does that mean a blokes jerking off for relief?

[Abracadabra]

I don't think demand is going down. Just last week, was stuck in traffic on Cleveland street near front door of ginza. In the 3~4min I was waiting for the lights, saw at 2 enter and 1 leave.

Ahhh, the "front doorers"!

I usually don't care too much generally, but I use the laneway at GC, as front door exposed to traffic just like Kyoto and you never know who is simply passing by and clocks you!

[Dmam]

I don't think demand is going down. Just last week, was stuck in traffic on Cleveland street near front door of ginza. In the 3~4min I was waiting for the lights, saw at 2 enter and 1 leave.

Ginza is an entirely different market to the $310/hr Cauc massage parlours. The latter is being ravaged by cost of living and privates.

[Themysterypi]

Hmmmm

22 rydalmere just jacked up their prices

There other shop 45 George as well.

No way the quality of girls there are worth it.

[GoldfishMan]

I don't think demand is going down. Just last week, was stuck in traffic on Cleveland street near front door of ginza. In the 3~4min I was waiting for the lights, saw at 2 enter and 1 leave.

You sure they weren't just food delivery guys? I rarely see any real punters going in the front door. Mostly are the food delivery guys who go in that way.

[wcukewa]

The 3 I saw had no backpack and didn't carry anything in their hands.

[Icegodofhungary]

I haven't been here long, so can't really judge on the slow down of reports, but it seems like there are several people here who've been pretty prolific on the AR's lately. There are plenty of shops that don't get a look in.

It is a bit disheartening to spend time and effort writing up a detailed AR only to see it slip down to page whatever of the After Report forum with only 500 views and no comments. There are threads started yesterday that have more views than that! I don't need a pat on the back, but the point of writing these things is to share knowledge and help out our fellow punters I would have thought, not much point spending the effort if it's not going to help anyone. To be fair, the one I wrote on Yuko at Mirage, there was another AR on her written a bit before mine, so maybe there was enough info on her anyway. Still, makes me wonder if it's worth writing up my next one, another lady who already has an AR on the forum, maybe it's just not helping anyone to have multiple ARs on the same girl, or from the less popular shops?

[Aussieguyinsf]

No slowdown for me. I just discovered and reviewed this early 20s Indo gem. http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?131083-Vita-gorgeous-young-early-20s-Indo-delight-Nasi-cum-Goreng-all-over-her-tight-bod

[Icegodofhungary]

No slowdown for me. I just discovered and reviewed this early 20s Indo gem. http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?131083-Vita-gorgeous-young-early-20s-Indo-delight-Nasi-cum-Goreng-all-over-her-tight-bod

Just read it, sounds good man. Sadly I had a bad experience at this shop and won't return, but good to hear of your experience.

[faruk]

I haven't been here long, so can't really judge on the slow down of reports, but it seems like there are several people here who've been pretty prolific on the AR's lately. There are plenty of shops that don't get a look in.

It is a bit disheartening to spend time and effort writing up a detailed AR only to see it slip down to page whatever of the After Report forum with only 500 views and no comments. There are threads started yesterday that have more views than that! I don't need a pat on the back, but the point of writing these things is to share knowledge and help out our fellow punters I would have thought, not much point spending the effort if it's not going to help anyone. To be fair, the one I wrote on Yuko at Mirage, there was another AR on her written a bit before mine, so maybe there was enough info on her anyway. Still, makes me wonder if it's worth writing up my next one, another lady who already has an AR on the forum, maybe it's just not helping anyone to have multiple ARs on the same girl, or from the less popular shops?

Your reviews are always appreciated mate

[schloong]

Any reviews are good intel mate & appreciated. I don't write AR's much as I'm usually seeing my regular so it'd just be copy, paste, etc...:smile:

[c1teh9]

I haven't been here long, so can't really judge on the slow down of reports, but it seems like there are several people here who've been pretty prolific on the AR's lately. There are plenty of shops that don't get a look in.

It is a bit disheartening to spend time and effort writing up a detailed AR only to see it slip down to page whatever of the After Report forum with only 500 views and no comments. There are threads started yesterday that have more views than that! I don't need a pat on the back, but the point of writing these things is to share knowledge and help out our fellow punters I would have thought, not much point spending the effort if it's not going to help anyone. To be fair, the one I wrote on Yuko at Mirage, there was another AR on her written a bit before mine, so maybe there was enough info on her anyway. Still, makes me wonder if it's worth writing up my next one, another lady who already has an AR on the forum, maybe it's just not helping anyone to have multiple ARs on the same girl, or from the less popular shops?

Keep sharing bro, all reviews are valuable.

If it was up to me I'd have it so each shop has its own thread in a punters only section (so no shops can spam) and all punters reviews for that shop go under the same thread.

[Icegodofhungary]

Thanks for the encouragement lads.

Alright, I’ll keep going with the novel my AR of session with K Star is turning into. If that goes well I’ll write up some intel on the new girl I’m seeing tonight.

[legitl]

Hmmmm

22 rydalmere just jacked up their prices

Also most of the girls are gold/diamond only too so it's like a double price increase, not worth it there anymore.

[asnabc]

Also most of the girls are gold/diamond only too so it's like a double price increase, not worth it there anymore.

I was about to try this place. Any other recommendations around Rydalmere preferable with younger WL's?

[Nthnrr]

The level of decent Caucasian talent is saving me plenty of money. Not worth it half the time these days.

[Icegodofhungary]

Hey gents, just posted a quick review for Nami at Platinum 121 (don’t think anyone has reviewed her yet), and bumped my previous unseen report for Yuko at Mirage lol.

[kpopcity]

The level of decent Caucasian talent is saving me plenty of money. Not worth it half the time these days.

Even the asian talent is disappointing. Havnt really had a satisfying punt in ages. Only decent punts recently has been milfs. Young girls has always been expensive and disappointing

[Themysterypi]

I have slowed down.

Lucky I enjoy the Asian milfs so it not crazy 300 or 500 per hour.

[Aussieguyinsf]

And another new review. No slowdown for me. http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?131339-Joanne-skinny-Chinese-vixen-with-great-hard-massage-and-butt-play-Finger-licking-good

[kpopcity]

Def a slow down in lower socioeconomic areas.

I would imagine cost of living isnt affecting the rich since a massive increase in wealth if you have housing sorted. But the ones in poorer areas are definitely feeling the pinch.

Went to a shop in riverwood last night and went to a shop in liverpool tonight and it seems like i was the only one there with all girls available.

Usually these places the girls are booked out.

[Sydlong]

Some of the shops I use regularly seem to be quieter, some more keen to get your booking and in the door for sure

Then there are a couple of great girls that are as busy as ever, because they are good.

Overall I think less girls and less punters happening at the moment and I reckon it will get a bit worse still in the last 6 months of 2024, not better

[Icegodofhungary]

A lot of the shops seem to be spamming the AR threads particularly hard these past few weeks, may be another sign of slowing business.

[Themysterypi]

When it slows down some shops seek to compensate by increasing rates
This only compounds the original problem

Maybe why 22 rydelmere / 45 George up their rates. It's so not worth there for diamond.

[massage addict]

Even the girls in the massage shops are trying to put their prices up for the extras. The problem is the service you get these days is barley worth the the 50, 100, 130-150 it used to be let alone an additional "$20 bucks per tier" That's a fucken 40% increase.... who the fuck are they kidding?

[Rasputin]

As soon as I have the required number of posts to start a review thread I will venture out to a premises and do the deed. Then write it in the said format.

Be nice and I’ll reciprocate.

[dpsdvmh6]

As soon as I have the required number of posts to start a review thread I will venture out to a premises and do the deed. Then write it in the said format.

Be nice and I’ll reciprocate.

Please don’t Spanky; we can smell you a mile away!


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[chemistry84]

Was checking E&B and holy fk the Private market is absolutely fucked. Standard 30mins now is least 250-300 for a 'decent' looking girl. Time for a recession for a supply increase in working girls.

[ditchtheboss]

I got a message from a potential SB who messaged me first and asked for $1000 ppm. The absurd of it is that she was way below average looking. I would think twice to do her for nothing. I declined and she asked how much I would pay and I said I wasn’t interested. Complete absurd, I wonder if some guys pay that sort of money for it.

[CharlieM]

Please don’t Spanky; we can smell you a mile away!


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Like an itch that no matter how much you scratch won't go away

[Double_Adapter]

Like an itch that no matter how much you scratch won't go away

Sounds like it's Chlamy or Gono

[Nthnrr]

Have noticed a few of these lately

Price change
Accommodating more clients [Smile]

[Fireworks]School Holiday Promotions[Fireworks]
World Square and 6 Poplar
1/7 to 14/7/24

45m $70-->$60
60m $90-->$80

World Square
Level 2, suite 27/650 George St, Sydney 2000

Surry Hills
Shop 1/6 Poplar st, Surry Hills NSW 2010

[HitNMiss]

Was checking E&B and holy fk the Private market is absolutely fucked. Standard 30mins now is least 250-300 for a 'decent' looking girl. Time for a recession for a supply increase in working girls.

I was thinking the exact same thing on Friday. I was helping a mate do a job out in Penrith and was done quite early so I strolled around to a few massage shops of locanto and wasn’t keen on any I seen , so jumped on E&B . Most of the half decent ones wanted $200 for half hour , then when you enquire services they want $50 for each ( dfk, bbbj etc ) so it would be $300 and over , fuk that . Better to go to ginza .

[Endo123]

When do you guys think we will see the light of this proverbial tunnel?

[kpopcity]

When do you guys think we will see the light of this proverbial tunnel?

Never. The entire cost of living crisis is just the norm for many other cities like London.

And it will only get worse. Houses will double every 10 years at a 7-8% annual compound. Food, insurance and every day expense will grow at 4-5% every year. Wages, especially private sector wages will stagnate at 2%. This has been the norm last 10 years.

Run the number forward next 10-15 years and you will see how Sydney will look like.

The wealthy and well to do will be even wealthier as their freestanding home prices rise. The poor class will be absolutely screwed. The middle class will feel much more pressure as the new 200k salary is feels like 100k

Throw in a rapidly aging population and strain on medicare, we will realistically see free healthcare disappear in the next 2 decades. Everyone will be forced to pay for private health insurance like in the US.

[Abracadabra]

You would assume a natural slowdown of some sort in line with what's occuring in our world, but I can't get a feel for how significant it is, if in fact it is happening?
I've had some texts from a couple of shops encouraging me to drop by, plus I haven't noticed a lot of punters in the waiting rooms of the high level shops nor has it seemed overly difficult to book who I want to see when I wanted to...
Maybe circumstantial.

That said the girls I've seen don't seem to be bored and prices sure haven't dropped.

[trampslikeus55]

When do you guys think we will see the light of this proverbial tunnel?
The light is but a flicker and the costs of living we are experiencing will be the normal going forward. This is a recession in real terms and the COL is the hidden charges kicking in. Fuel, gas and electricity will not come back with the government so firmly invested in taxing and funding them. And I don't think the Libs want the task of fixing the problem even if they knew how. 😡

[asnabc]

A private thai WL I saw 6 months ago just messaged me asking how I was doing, times must be tough. Note to self, don't give your number to WL's.

[RO1312]

Even the girls in the massage shops are trying to put their prices up for the extras. The problem is the service you get these days is barley worth the the 50, 100, 130-150 it used to be let alone an additional "$20 bucks per tier" That's a fucken 40% increase.... who the fuck are they kidding?

My regular told me recently some girls are charging $70 for a NHJ if booking 45 or 60 mins. I saw someone else say that and because we talk about anything I thought I’d ask. Makes sense from the girls perspective I guess

Money would be tighter for everyone at the moment. I’ve only gone back to the same girl because she gives the right service I’m looking for and I leave happy every time. Shame it can’t happen as often as I’d like but the spread out visits are good so it never goes stale. Just my opinion

[TasteTester]

Girls might have to start giving better extras like their assholes up in order to meet their bottom line.

Next level service is a true and tested method throughout history in all sectors of the market to ensure customer loyalty and retention :)

[dotcumdotinyou]

I wonder what they'll do when interest rates go up again.

[Rdlr84]

One popular girl at MAC told me its gone quiet there lately. I guess punters are feeling the costs- I know I am.

[Niceguy11]

From WL’s perspective yes it has slowed down but from my experience, shops are still busy. Like I said a few weeks ago, when I was waiting for a booking, 5 punters entered the shop in a 30 minute period

[GoldfishMan]

Let's see if Stage 3 tax cuts have any effect on punting volumes. Maybe the shops can do promotions with that theme.

[ditchtheboss]

Let's see if Stage 3 tax cuts have any effect on punting volumes. Maybe the shops can do promotions with that theme.

I still can’t believe n5m offers a discount if you book one day ahead. It was still up on their website yesterday.

[stallionmachine123]

Let's see if Stage 3 tax cuts have any effect on punting volumes. Maybe the shops can do promotions with that theme.

Haha I can probably fit in a 45 min punt somewhere.

[personaa]

This industry is quite different. I guess slowdown in punting has made some girls to increase their rates to cover the loss from less customers?!

Check Miku at No5.

45 min booking has jumped from 240 to 260.
30 minutes is now 210 and
1 hour is now 310.

[pornonporn]

With the cost of living shouldn't more caucasians and aussie girls start doing massages i hear so many complaining cost of living

[dotcumdotinyou]

Economists are factoring in a 40% chance of an interest rate hike for next month so there go the tax cuts. And bankruptcies are up 36% from this time last year so unemployment is set to rise. So probably sooner rather than later the higher end shops will start to feel it and the girls may have to start dropping their rates.

Also to try and stem the flow of immigration the govt has double the costs for student visas and banned visa hopping once here so we'll have to see how that affects new talent coming in.

[GoldfishMan]

This industry is quite different. I guess slowdown in punting has made some girls to increase their rates to cover the loss from less customers?!

Check Miku at No5.

45 min booking has jumped from 240 to 260.
30 minutes is now 210 and
1 hour is now 310.

It's not so different at all, we just happen to be on the other side of the fence. We're the consumer, so we can't understand why they would increase their rates in the face of high inflation and fewer punters.

On their side, what's a girl's rate but her wages? When inflation hits, everybody hopes, prays and begs for a pay rise. The only difference is for these girls, their the boss, they can give themselves a raise whenever they want to
by increasing their rate. They're just giving themselves what everyone wants. Whether or not it backfires is another story.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Its only good for us punters if the prices drop as well.

I think the reason we don't see a lot more young Aussie girls coming into the profession is that if rents get to high or they lose their jobs they tend to move back to mum and dad's place or some other family member, so they're not as quick to jump as someone who's here on a visa and don't have family to help them.

[pornonporn]

I reckon. I also want to see more Australian Born Asian girls turning to the oldest profession in the world.
Especially with this current economic financial pressure.

I want to see hot blonde aussie girl.
I saw one today in sydney with huge cleavage just walking on the street.
It's so cold why is she exposing her tits.

[personaa]

If you change from hot blonde Aussie to Jamaican then you might give this one a go! https://hunterhunnie.com.au/jamaican-girl-kiss/

[trampslikeus55]

Bro, that hot blonde aussie with exposed tits you saw is probably already some rich guy's play thing.



Dont know if its related to recession or economy. I noticed Kyoto & Sakura, alot of the J girls used to be at least $320-$340 per hour. Now alot of them are ~$300/hr.
Alot more J girls from other well known shops are also $280-$300/hr.
I know its still more expensive than pre-covid. But better than $330-$380/hour.

Give it time, maybe one more interest rate hike, we will probably see more Aussie Born girls in the industry as well due to economic/financial hardship - most of these J girls from overseas work here to pay off their debt to the Host Clubs in Japan
More girls flooding market = more stock.
More stock/supply outnumbering demand = prices falling
All good points and logically all probably right. The trigger will be when shops start folding. A tighter squeeze on locations will change the market. Or we will see the girls not coming or just going home ☹️

[chemistry84]

Its only good for us punters if the prices drop as well.

I think the reason we don't see a lot more young Aussie girls coming into the profession is that if rents get to high or they lose their jobs they tend to move back to mum and dad's place or some other family member, so they're not as quick to jump as someone who's here on a visa and don't have family to help them.


I was thinking the exact same thing on Friday. I was helping a mate do a job out in Penrith and was done quite early so I strolled around to a few massage shops of locanto and wasn’t keen on any I seen , so jumped on E&B . Most of the half decent ones wanted $200 for half hour , then when you enquire services they want $50 for each ( dfk, bbbj etc ) so it would be $300 and over , fuk that . Better to go to ginza .

Yeah there's definitely a lot of folks moving in with their parents to steam the hit from higher rents/costs. That will shield the market from more girls. Also there's going to be likely an influx of women doing OnlyFans rather than turning towards whoring. I don't blame them going down the OF option given it's easier (stay home, shoot some videos) vs getting dicked 10+ times during a day and probably not liking the customers you are dealing with. However, OF market will also become saturated.

The massage shop I regularly visit (not sure if they are lying) but they tell me things have slowed down quite a bit. This is a Parramatta massage shop (second CBD) and there's a slow down for them. Sometimes some girls have 0 customers. Some of the regulars also visiting have had to cut back too. Plus I keep getting messages on WeChat of Shops trying to get me to come in, only so many times you can try 'new' girls as no one wants a dud punt in this environment. Separately some of the private girls I visited have also messaged me to visit them. Things IMO are getting worse... we are slowly getting there.

Now on the flip side, the Retail sales figure yesterday was hot (prior numbers were pretty bad) and with the CPI being above the RBA's target we are essentially assured another rate hike in August (unless things get worse). I also expect unemployment to increase. Personally I think things we get worse for the economy, punting will still there but it must force massage shops and potentially privates to lower their prices. Some girls will do well no matter what (built up good cliental base and are somewhat immune to the economy). Others will see them struggle and fight for every dollar and there's where you'll likely girls doing services they normally wouldn't. Stagflation here we come, if we aren't here already.

[kpopcity]

Bro, that hot blonde aussie with exposed tits you saw is probably already some rich guy's play thing.



Dont know if its related to recession or economy. I noticed Kyoto & Sakura, alot of the J girls used to be at least $320-$340 per hour. Now alot of them are ~$300/hr.
Alot more J girls from other well known shops are also $280-$300/hr.
I know its still more expensive than pre-covid. But better than $330-$380/hour.

Give it time, maybe one more interest rate hike, we will probably see more Aussie Born girls in the industry as well due to economic/financial hardship - most of these J girls from overseas work here to pay off their debt to the Host Clubs in Japan
More girls flooding market = more stock.
More stock/supply outnumbering demand = prices falling

Very interesting!
So 2 new girls at Ginza Empire on the roster. Both are New Zealand born Koreans. I know Kiwis have it much tougher than Aus in terms of standard of living. Interesting to see some trans tasman talent come in.

[Jack-Jack]

I reckon. I also want to see more Australian Born Asian girls turning to the oldest profession in the world.
Especially with this current economic financial pressure.

no need bro they can just do only fans with hot guys or their partners and easily make much more at shops with the ultra benefit of doing sex when they want and who they want with

having said that just saw that added 2 super younng K Girls there that are ABNZ

[Jack-Jack]

Bro, that hot blonde aussie with exposed tits you saw is probably already some rich guy's play thing.



Dont know if its related to recession or economy. I noticed Kyoto & Sakura, alot of the J girls used to be at least $320-$340 per hour. Now alot of them are ~$300/hr.
Alot more J girls from other well known shops are also $280-$300/hr.
I know its still more expensive than pre-covid. But better than $330-$380/hour.

Give it time, maybe one more interest rate hike, we will probably see more Aussie Born girls in the industry as well due to economic/financial hardship - most of these J girls from overseas work here to pay off their debt to the Host Clubs in Japan
More girls flooding market = more stock.
More stock/supply outnumbering demand = prices falling

yea fingers crossed - Ginza priced well and got right mix of K C J and V Girls

Kyoto and sakura many of the higher end priced J girls dropping prices
No 5 offering discounts
Ginza advertising the girls that offer doubles etc

[Jack-Jack]

Very interesting!
So 2 new girls at Ginza Empire on the roster. Both are New Zealand born Koreans. I know Kiwis have it much tougher than Aus in terms of standard of living. Interesting to see some trans tasman talent come in.

yea my mates texted me this too but i already booked one of the J girls hhahahah

beat me to posting and hope to see intel on them in the coming days

You have plans to see one of the new NZK girls at Ginza?

[Vincentius]

So far I’ve had two ask me when am I going to see them. Maybe it’s me but I don’t like to be asked as it’s like they’re only after money and yes that’s the case but it spoils the illusion.

[kpopcity]

yea my mates texted me this too but i already booked one of the J girls hhahahah

beat me to posting and hope to see intel on them in the coming days

You have plans to see one of the new ABNZ girls at Ginza?

Im going to wait for some reviews. Unless they are very good i cant be bothered. So far ive been just going back to my regulars out west since last month Ive had a few shocker experiences with new punts

[massage addict]

no need bro they can just do only fans with hot guys or their partners and easily make much more at shops with the ultra benefit of doing sex when they want and who they want with

having said that just saw that added 2 super younng K Girls there that are ABNZ

They make fuck all from only fans. There are very girls making a decent living from it. After all why would you pay to view the of content when you can get it for free from 100s of porn sites.

[tommyb]

This industry is quite different. I guess slowdown in punting has made some girls to increase their rates to cover the loss from less customers?!

Check Miku at No5.

45 min booking has jumped from 240 to 260.
30 minutes is now 210 and
1 hour is now 310.

wow really? I've seen her a couple times at the sister shop... she's good but i don't think $310 good unless she's upped her game! sometimes i feel like japanese girls just price themselves higher... whereas if that was a chinese girl at that price you'd expect her to be amazing

[alphaomega8384]

One of my regular suggested that business has been terribly slow these days, they make half of what they used to during that days..

[SmithChips]

One of my regular suggested that business has been terribly slow these days, they make half of what they used to during that days..

Sad for them aye. But it's also sad that their effort has also halved, if they maintained the effort and went above and beyond, I am sure it won't be as bad. Guess these girls are often not savvy when it comes to business.

[alphaomega8384]

Sad for them aye. But it's also sad that their effort has also halved, if they maintained the effort and went above and beyond, I am sure it won't be as bad. Guess these girls are often not savvy when it comes to business.

That’s my guess too, I won’t be surprised if some of these girls haven’t even completed schooling yet.. the regular I have been seeing for sometime has maintained same level of service since I met her first time, so no complaints there but she was suggesting the number of customers visiting the shop has reduced significantly this year..

[rooter]

Vice is recession proof.
The harder times get the more guys want to gamble, drink, punt etc.
And in boom times again guys want to gamble, drink, punt etc
You can never lose with vice - bad times guys want to drown their sorrows - good times guys want to celebrate their glory.
Enjoy!

[schloong]

Wise words from our esteemed bro rooter! :cool2:

[TasteTester]

What about the middle time that makes up the majority of our lives?

[Danny801]

Im coming across some desperado in the ml. Business is down, customers are few, and they wanna make money. In my last 2 punts i played some hardball, said i only wanted a hj and will only tip $50. This is after i had built up some good rapport. They started suggesting more services to upsell me to the $100 price point. I reluctantly gave in. Made for a great session when the ml wants your business and is chasing you!

[alphaomega8384]

I was chatting to a regular and she was suggesting business is really bad right now.. hardly any guests visiting shops she works at.. sounds like a bad state!

[kpopcity]

I was chatting to a regular and she was suggesting business is really bad right now.. hardly any guests visiting shops she works at.. sounds like a bad state!

Is this a massage shop or a brothel?

A high end shop or low end shop?

I just dropped by Billys at Marrickville last week and there was a young girl working there (young by their standards - early to mid 30s i would say). She says she also works at massage parlour at Burwood and in the massage places FS including massage would cost double. So i think business slowed so much she had to get a job a Billys instead of just her usual shift at the massage place

[Jack-Jack]

Im going to wait for some reviews. Unless they are very good i cant be bothered. So far ive been just going back to my regulars out west since last month Ive had a few shocker experiences with new punts

I’ve seen leana and posted a review on her haha

Hoping to catch her friend chloe next week

[alphaomega8384]

Is this a massage shop or a brothel?

A high end shop or low end shop?

I just dropped by Billys at Marrickville last week and there was a young girl working there (young by their standards - early to mid 30s i would say). She says she also works at massage parlour at Burwood and in the massage places FS including massage would cost double. So i think business slowed so much she had to get a job a Billys instead of just her usual shift at the massage place

She works at a brothel.. sounded business has never been this terrible

[kpopcity]

I’ve seen leana and posted a review on her haha

Hoping to catch her friend chloe next week

I just read your review. Interesting, im quite tempted after the write up, especially after you mentioned she looks a bit like rayasteel. My ex-gf looks a bit like rayasteel - also korean but ABK not NZBK. So tempted to go and bring back memories of when i was young having sex with this ex :cool2:

So if you were to pick, would you choose leana or miwa to try?

[kpopcity]

WHOA!

Just checked out Ginza clubs roster and Macao Ruby just lowered herself from $350/hr to $320/hr.

My metric for a recession in Sydney isnt the unemployment numbers or CPI. The single metric is when K Miki drops her $380/hr price. I think its coming soon hahaha. If Miki drops to $330 im booking a slot just to see that the "prettiest korean girl in sydney" looks like.

[Johny77]

Prices don’t seem to be dropping when it comes to MLs. Was quoted $150 for cbj and $200 for fs at Khemika in Campsie and Gold Chai Thai massage in Croydon Park (on top of the massage fee). And they were both average looking at best. Obviously opted against taking them up on it. If I am going to drop that sort of coin, I would prefer to finally visit Ginza.

[vitamin]

Once you stop punting for a while it's actually hard to pick it back up. Like quitting smoking. I want to go. But lazy as. Just rub one out.

[faruk]

Prices don’t seem to be dropping when it comes to MLs. Was quoted $150 for cbj and $200 for fs at Khemika in Campsie and Gold Chai Thai massage in Croydon Park (on top of the massage fee). And they were both average looking at best. Obviously opted against taking them up on it. If I am going to drop that sort of coin, I would prefer to finally visit Ginza.

MLs will always have a go at quoting insane prices. Don't give in and after a while they will drop their asking price.


Once you stop punting for a while it's actually hard to pick it back up. Like quitting smoking. I want to go. But lazy as. Just rub one out.

Very true brother

[GoldfishMan]

Once you stop punting for a while it's actually hard to pick it back up. Like quitting smoking. I want to go. But lazy as. Just rub one out.

Exactly right, bro. Once you stop for a couple of months, several things come together that prevent you from going again. The laziness is a big part of it, you're right. The other thing is it gets very difficult to justify spending that much money just to get your rocks off.

[massage addict]

Exactly right, bro. Once you stop for a couple of months, several things come together that prevent you from going again. The laziness is a big part of it, you're right. The other thing is it gets very difficult to justify spending that much money just to get your rocks off.

and thats exactly what these massage girls are helping us to see with their crazy price increases. I laughed at one the other week after she said "price go up now nude hj is $70" haha what? yes baby everything go up more expensive, i said it nothing has gone up 40%! thats just insane, dont worry about it i will jack myself off when i get home just finish the massage please. after 5 min more massage she said she will do for $50

[schloong]

Well done mate for sticking to your guns! Just need more of us to do the same & show them we are not simply ATM's...

[MrPB]

and thats exactly what these massage girls are helping us to see with their crazy price increases. I laughed at one the other week after she said price gp up now nude hj is $70 haha what? yes baby everything go up more expensive, i said it nothing has gone up 40%! thats just insane, dont worry about it i will jack myself off when i get home just finish the massage please. after 5 min more massage she said she will do for $50

Props to you for that - I've had sessions where in the moment they give me a higher than market price (for a fairly standard punt) and it is very difficult to turn it down there and then.

I have to learn how to exercise some self control.. that is, not let the dick do all the thinking!

[DueNorth]

I pretty sure that there is no clearer evidence of a slow down in punting then 227 NS posting 3 past Ester reviews. She is a legend in the game and is often fully booked. It seems times are slowing if she needs new customers. I know for a fact she does not like reviews. I did notice that the reviews were very tame, obviously not giving too much away as she is definitely aYMMV provider.

[faruk]

I pretty sure that there is no clearer evidence of a slow down in punting then 227 NS posting 3 past Ester reviews. She is a legend in the game and is often fully booked. It seems times are slowing if she needs new customers. I know for a fact she does not like reviews. I did notice that the reviews were very tame, obviously not giving too much away as she is definitely aYMMV provider.

Similar experience here. An often booked out ML at a particular shop, I was told by the shop she was available and asked if I wanted a booking.

Also when I saw a ML the other day, who I know offers FS for $100, she showed me her purse and only had one $100 note in there, meaning she had only one punter taking up her FS offer that day.

[massage addict]

Props to you for that - I've had sessions where in the moment they give me a higher than market price (for a fairly standard punt) and it is very difficult to turn it down there and then.

I have to learn how to exercise some self control.. that is, not let the dick do all the thinking!

Mate once you do it once it's so easy to do it again. No post organic disgust like when you no your being taken for a ride and still pay it in the moment as soon as you blow your load you regret it big time. I refuse to be hit with a 40% increase that's not inflation that's a down right scam!

[HitNMiss]

Props to you for that - I've had sessions where in the moment they give me a higher than market price (for a fairly standard punt) and it is very difficult to turn it down there and then.

I have to learn how to exercise some self control.. that is, not let the dick do all the thinking!

I can relate with this . I went to 2 different massage shops yesterday and asked upfront what they would charge for certain services and ended up walking out of both . Normally my cock brain would take over and I would go ahead anyway because I’m there . It wasn’t just the cost that made me walk it was also the fact that the lady’s weren’t that engaging so I felt it wouldn’t be that good of a punt and they were no spring chickens , if I weighed up the end price I could go to ginza and get a lot more for the same $$

[massage addict]

I can relate with this . I went to 2 different massage shops yesterday and asked upfront what they would charge for certain services and ended up walking out of both . Normally my cock brain would take over and I would go ahead anyway because I’m there . It wasn’t just the cost that made me walk it was also the fact that the lady’s weren’t that engaging so I felt it wouldn’t be that good of a punt and they were no spring chickens , if I weighed up the end price I could go to ginza and get a lot more for the same $$

Nice work mate if everyone sticks to their guns the girls will stop trying to take the piss eventually.

[lonely heart]

Is this a massage shop or a brothel?

A high end shop or low end shop?

I just dropped by Billys at Marrickville last week and there was a young girl working there (young by their standards - early to mid 30s i would say). She says she also works at massage parlour at Burwood and in the massage places FS including massage would cost double. So i think business slowed so much she had to get a job a Billys instead of just her usual shift at the massage place

Was that Crystal or Sakura?

[kpopcity]

Was that Crystal or Sakura?

Forgot her name. Decent english. May have been sakura dunno.

On another side note, since cost of living ive been trying to avoid new girls after a string of duds. Now i strictly go with my regulars - this is about 15 or so gals around Sydney.

Yesterday i hit up one (Linda at 24 liverpool) and the fuck was so intense. One of my best punts this year. All for 150/hr.

Keep to your regulars if you want consistent experience during these hard times.

Stay hard.

[Themysterypi]

Punting less and less, maybe once per month instead of weekly. Hard to try a new girl, and if they don't have decent reviews here.

[Octane79]

I haven't punted for close to 6 weeks now. Cost of living and the risk of a dud punt the main factors.

Thank God the last punt
was a decent one!

I'm still across rosters but I'm finding a lack of diversity over the last couple of years.

Still gutted I didn't get to experience Zara i think (Egyptian)? at no5 a few years back...

[faruk]

Fuck me dead how expensive is electricity now?

Can't afford to keep the lights on let alone punt

[ditchtheboss]

To me the main sign that punting has slowed down is that I have been able to book K Rebecca on the same day or hours after the roster was published twice in a few days. Or perhaps she is not as popular as she used to be but I don’t think so

[faruk]

REX airlines goes into insolvency, 610 jobs lost.

This should have a significant flow on effect which would affect at least a small amount of punters.

[cassius]

Definitely doing less. And not so much in the high end agencies like I used to as they just got too expensive. Even some Massage places become problematic when they ask for 230 for an hour and you don’t even know what the girl is going to offer as extra or even if she’s on her period.

[Climax598]

Fuck me dead how expensive is electricity now?

Can't afford to keep the lights on let alone punt
Lucky I have solar and battery still have to pay $600 for the quarter. We have a cold winter this year.

[Climax598]

To me the main sign that punting has slowed down is that I have been able to book K Rebecca on the same day or hours after the roster was published twice in a few days. Or perhaps she is not as popular as she used to be but I don’t think so
Just wait till they offer discounts we know for sure is bad. That may be soon coming.

[ditchtheboss]

Just wait till they offer discounts we know for sure is bad. That may be soon coming.

N5m already started. I was so surprised when I saw it. Shane it is so out of the way for me

[Abracadabra]

To me the main sign that punting has slowed down is that I have been able to book K Rebecca on the same day or hours after the roster was published twice in a few days. Or perhaps she is not as popular as she used to be but I don’t think so

Similarly I noticed a couple of weeks back that after finishing a session with a well regarded Ginza girl and chatting to the reception guys she walked by reception 10mins later and clearly didn't have a follow-up booking.
Maybe circumstantial or a short break but since I've been seeing her it has always been back to back, go go go, don't leave the room during her 8 hr roster ....

[Footballpunter]

N5m already started. I was so surprised when I saw it. Shane it is so out of the way for me

Unfortunately, they stopped last week I think. They ran it for about 2 months.