ML borrowed few K and disappeared /blocked me

[WollongongGuy00]

No, it's when I get home n see the kids that I feel the guilt.

Yeah, but then my kids usually do something shit and I forget about the guilt haha

[Paison]

As more people come forward, it's clear that she is still playing the EXACT same scam with others.
She's literally a virus which just keeps moving onto the next person and needs to be stopped.
If anything, we are doing the child a favour.



Lets be real here old mate, sure what she did was wrong but end of the day, can you honestly say that you guys weren't just handing over that money to get pussy?
I been there myself many times, meet a woman who is on the greedier side - wine and dine her, give lavish gifts she asks for just to get more pussy, funny thing is once you fuck her enough times, post nut clarity usually clicks in and just the site of them makes you disgusted lol.

Obviously this being a ML which has serviced hundreds of men just doing it on a grander scale

You guys just seem a bit sour as seems she didnt give you enough pussy or wasnt hot enough to get your money's worth lol

[j_highrolla]

Why not name and shame to help others stay away from the scam ?

[11Bravo]

Why not name and shame to help others stay away from the scam ?

Who needs names? Good judgement, common sense, and "No, cannot" work just fine for me. But, as in everything, YMMV

[justincase]

YMMV

I’ve never heard a guy driving a Ferrari complain about the price fuel so why should a guy complain about the money he’s given a sex worker?

[Double_Adapter]

I’ve never heard a guy driving a Ferrari complain about the price fuel so why should a guy complain about the money he’s given a sex worker?

By the same token, a bloke with a Ferrari doesn’t rent it he bloody owns it. And as ChadTC would say, only a low-value man rents a Ferrari. If you’ve gotta pay just to play, you’re not the one in the driver’s seat

[Legend2000]

Lets be real here old mate, sure what she did was wrong but end of the day, can you honestly say that you guys weren't just handing over that money to get pussy?
I been there myself many times, meet a woman who is on the greedier side - wine and dine her, give lavish gifts she asks for just to get more pussy, funny thing is once you fuck her enough times, post nut clarity usually clicks in and just the site of them makes you disgusted lol.

Obviously this being a ML which has serviced hundreds of men just doing it on a grander scale

You guys just seem a bit sour as seems she didnt give you enough pussy or wasnt hot enough to get your money's worth lol

This wasn’t post-nut regret - she strung guys along for years and pretended she was interest to milk money and gifts every time she felt like it while at the same time posting an innocent and lavish life online. That’s not a hookup, that’s a pattern. Still running it now.

[Paison]

Mate, you just explaining the bulk lot of the women in this industry.
If you have socials or contacts for enough of them you'd quickly realise lol - this whole post you guys been going on about is nothing out of the ordinary.

If its not thirst traps on insta or facebook that prompts simps to reach out, then its DMs or sms lol.

Do convo's like this sound familiar - i bet they do lol -

Woman:
> hey… sorry i’ve been quiet.
been really tired lately, just trying to stay afloat tbh.

Simp:
> hey, it’s all good. you ok?

Woman
> not really, but i’ll be fine. just tired of everything.
been thinking a lot.

Simp:
> thinking about what?

Woman:
> idk, just life. people.
maybe i just need a break from everything.

Simp
> want to talk about it?

Woman:
> maybe later… just felt like saying hi.
hope you’ve been well.

-------

This is the perfect trap to get simp to go into white knight / saviour mode lol
Which means she can easily extract benefits ie: validation, money - once in a while to keep you hooked, she may throw you a bone and let you meet them for coffee or a quick fuck as a reward lol - before she promptly discards you again once she gets what she wants $$$.

The process just keeps repeating too. And weaklings are destroyed in the process (and seems like a few in this thread been destroyed). Lol.

Just see it for what it is. These women are broken.
Real men don't put up with this shit and just move on to the next pussy. There's plenty around without needing to destroy yourself

I prob sound like a dick for saying this - but its for your own good bro.
As the tiktok generation says - be an alpha or sigma - not a beta lol
Be the man these broken women want but can never have.

[Urbumcrack]

Normalising a scam doesn't make it any less of a scam.
Same lines, timing and outcome every time.
Spare me your bullshit, this isn’t normal, it’s calculated and you just showing you are the biggest cockhead.

[Double_Adapter]

Do convo's like this sound familiar - i bet they do lol -

Woman:
> hey… sorry i’ve been quiet.
been really tired lately, just trying to stay afloat tbh.

Simp:
> hey, it’s all good. you ok?

Woman
> not really, but i’ll be fine. just tired of everything.
been thinking a lot.

Simp:
> thinking about what?

Woman:
> idk, just life. people.
maybe i just need a break from everything.

Simp
> want to talk about it?

Woman:
> maybe later… just felt like saying hi.
hope you’ve been well.

-------



Given the context, the convo would probably sound more like this bro.

Woman:
> Hey baby......so-ly I quiet long time.
I feel velly ti-lat lately… just tly keep head up?

Simp:
> hey, it’s all good. you ok?

Woman
> Not good… but I ok. Just ti-lat evely-ting.
Too much think.

Simp:
> thinking about what?

Woman:
> I donno… just life, pee-poh.
Maybe need li-toh bit blek from evely ting.

Simp
> want to talk about it?

Woman:
> shop ve-ly quiet, you want double?

Simp:
> I'll be there in 5 mins.

[Chancharlie]

Normalising a scam doesn't make it any less of a scam.
Same lines, timing and outcome every time.
Spare me your bullshit, this isn’t normal, it’s calculated and you just showing you are the biggest cockhead.

100000000000% agreed

[justincase]

By the same token, a bloke with a Ferrari doesn’t rent it he bloody owns it. And as ChadTC would say, only a low-value man rents a Ferrari. If you’ve gotta pay just to play, you’re not the one in the driver’s seat

Isn’t that the definition of punting, “pay to play”?

If the punter doesn’t pay then there’s no play so who is driving? The punter of course.

[11Bravo]

This wasn’t post-nut regret - she strung guys along for years and pretended she was interest to milk money and gifts every time she felt like it while at the same time posting an innocent and lavish life online. That’s not a hookup, that’s a pattern. Still running it now.How long of a string does it have to be until you realize it's a leash?

Seems to me the easiest way is to just say no, then see how much the behavior changes...

A scammer is a scammer. Now where it crosses the line to criminal... meets the legal definition, if you can prove it, great. Like they say, if you're playing cards with pros, sitting at the table, you can't recognize the mark... then you're the mark. I DO have empathy for the victims... sad. Lessons learned; education can be expensive.



Mate, you just explaining the bulk lot of the women in this industry.
If you have socials or contacts for enough of them you'd quickly realise lol - this whole post you guys been going on about is nothing out of the ordinary.

If its not thirst traps on insta or facebook that prompts simps to reach out, then its DMs or sms lol.

Do convo's like this sound familiar - i bet they do lol -

Have never received any messages like that.

Messages I get are:
Happy Songkran, Happy New Year, Happy Christmas (hey, they're all heathens).
Translation: are you BOTG; if you are, come see me.

Same with the occasional "How are you?"
Translation: You still alive? If not, might as well remove you from the contacts. Otherwise, come see me.

Those twerkin' videos, the exercise hula-hoop videos? That's a MASS mailing; still, I do appreciate.

Just like my dentist, insurance agent, advisor: advertising for BUSINESS. (You know you're old when they're from funeral services, hearing aid companies, aged-care companies, etc. My funeral plans? Green recycle bin, thank you.)

I send the same to a few. Translation: so I'm not cold calling when I'm BOTG.

Full disclosure, I do seem to get a lot of "Good morning" 's, but that's just on the day of my booking. Concern... of short term memory loss? But I certainly understand. If I'm not there to fill the slot (hey, TIME slot, what were you thinking), then, like an airplane seat, it's a business loss if unfilled and the time has passed.

[justincase]

My dentist keeps txting me every three months.

At least I’m wanted by someone…

[11Bravo]

My dentist keeps txting me every three months.

At least I’m wanted by someone…

Nice one; every time I read, get a laugh, but then, I am so jovial.

[justincase]

Nice one; every time I read, get a laugh, but then, I am so jovial.

It’s not because you’re so easily pleased? A helping hand across the busy street, someone buying you lunch etc I’m surprised a well travelled guy like you isn’t married off to a nice Asian lady and living happily ever after. You project that type even on an anonymous forum.

If there are two ends to a stick and you’re the better end why isn’t it so?

[Cracker38]

One of the big problems I see with this whole scenario is the issue regarding how the two individuals met. This isn’t a usual romance scam where u have met someone through a dating app, or out somewhere and then they have taken your money in some false loan arrangement.
The Op and all the others who appear to have suffered the same fate all met the ML in a scenario where they were paying money for a sexual service. This was her job and they were all engaging her for this service and a financial payment had to be made to cover this service.
At what point, even when they were seeing her outside of shops, did they believe that they were no longer contracting the services of a professional sex worker that payment would no longer be required.
Wasn’t she just providing the ‘Girl Friend Experience’ a service that is listed routinely by shops and girls as a service that is provided.
Do not escorts attend dinner/events and even oversees holidays with clients, all of which requires payment.
Could she not turn around with a log of all times she spent with everyone and claim that she believed she was still providing a professional service in the guise of providing a GF service, a service that requires financial payment.
I’m just wondering in this scenario, when the whole initial basis of the meets was a pay to play scenario, when did people believe that the circumstances had changed??

Why wouldn’t the ML in question just be able to hand everyone an invoice/receipt for services rendered as an Escort?

[GoldfishMan]

One of the big problems I see with this whole scenario is the issue regarding how the two individuals met. This isn’t a usual romance scam where u have met someone through a dating app, or out somewhere and then they have taken your money in some false loan arrangement.
The Op and all the others who appear to have suffered the same fate all met the ML in a scenario where they were paying money for a sexual service. This was her job and they were all engaging her for this service and a financial payment had to be made to cover this service.
At what point, even when they were seeing her outside of shops, did they believe that they were no longer contracting the services of a professional sex worker that payment would no longer be required.
Wasn’t she just providing the ‘Girl Friend Experience’ a service that is listed routinely by shops and girls as a service that is provided.
Do not escorts attend dinner/events and even oversees holidays with clients, all of which requires payment.
Could she not turn around with a log of all times she spent with everyone and claim that she believed she was still providing a professional service in the guise of providing a GF service, a service that requires financial payment.
I’m just wondering in this scenario, when the whole initial basis of the meets was a pay to play scenario, when did people believe that the circumstances had changed??

Why wouldn’t the ML in question just be able to hand everyone an invoice/receipt for services rendered as an Escort?

Great point! I think this legal action stuff is going to blow up in OP's face. Leave it be and let karma run its course. And most importantly, never "loan" money to a whore!

[Cockroach192736328282]

Great point! I think this legal action stuff is going to blow up in OP's face. Leave it be and let karma run its course. And most importantly, never "loan" money to a whore!


Not to mention the fact that sexual services in (probably) unlicensed shops are illegal so OP may be incriminating himself and others by reporting this. The shops where they occurred may also get investigated, even this forum…

Getting out the popcorn for this one.

[Double_Adapter]

Truth is, 99% of blokes start punting because they are chasing a happy ending. Over time, that happy ending morphs into a semi or full blown addiction and the chase for a happy ending turns into a chase for a fairy tale ending (pretty woman style). Eventually, the punter falls for the sex worker, she plays him like a violin and milks him for every dollar he's got. The penny drops, when he realises she’s giving 10 other cunts equal and better services (including raw dog); all while stringing a stable full of thirsty, clingy and needy simps and cashing in on their emotional naivety. And at this point of the story the fairy tale ending curdles into a bitter and twisted ending. This type of shit has been going on since the fucken dawn of time and will continue until the very last horny cunt walks the earth.

In summary - Men love idealistically and women love opportunistically.

[Punt2Win]

Truth is, 99% of blokes start punting because they are chasing a happy ending. Over time, that happy ending morphs into a semi or full blown addiction and the chase for a happy ending turns into a chase for a fairy tale ending (pretty woman style). Eventually, the punter falls for the sex worker, she plays him like a violin and milks him for every dollar he's got. The penny drops, when he realises she’s giving 10 other cunts equal and better services (including raw dog); all while stringing a stable full of thirsty, clingy and needy simps and cashing in on their emotional naivety. And at this point of the story the fairy tale ending curdles into a bitter and twisted ending. This type of shit has been going on since the fucken dawn of time and will continue until the very last horny cunt walks the earth.

In summary - Men love idealistically and women love opportunistically.

Exactly. Well put. It also describes the exact business model of Only Fans etc. except without the physical contact. At least massage simps get pussy lol.

[Travel420]

Yeah that mentality and being a simp also leads to the weirdos becoming stalkers. Gotta take emotions out of it when paying for play

[Legend2000]

One of the big problems I see with this whole scenario is the issue regarding how the two individuals met. This isn’t a usual romance scam where u have met someone through a dating app, or out somewhere and then they have taken your money in some false loan arrangement.
The Op and all the others who appear to have suffered the same fate all met the ML in a scenario where they were paying money for a sexual service. This was her job and they were all engaging her for this service and a financial payment had to be made to cover this service.
At what point, even when they were seeing her outside of shops, did they believe that they were no longer contracting the services of a professional sex worker that payment would no longer be required.
Wasn’t she just providing the ‘Girl Friend Experience’ a service that is listed routinely by shops and girls as a service that is provided.
Do not escorts attend dinner/events and even oversees holidays with clients, all of which requires payment.
Could she not turn around with a log of all times she spent with everyone and claim that she believed she was still providing a professional service in the guise of providing a GF service, a service that requires financial payment.
I’m just wondering in this scenario, when the whole initial basis of the meets was a pay to play scenario, when did people believe that the circumstances had changed??

Why wouldn’t the ML in question just be able to hand everyone an invoice/receipt for services rendered as an Escort?

Ha, you’ve basically written her warner bros movie script: ‘She didn’t con anyone, it was all just one big, romantic booking.’
Too bad for her the court deals in evidence, not fan fiction. But hey, if she’s lucky, maybe the judge will also buy into the ‘girlfriend experience’ - right before handing down the bill for fraud.

By your logic, my bookkeeper could empty my bank account and just call it part of my tax return service. That’s not how business works - that’s how a scam works

[forgotmyumbrella]

when he realises she’s giving 10 other cunts equal and better services (including raw dog);

Plant this in your head every time you start thinking youre special: these chicks are surrounded by men. If she loses you, she'll meet another 10 the next day, probably 40-50 by the end of the week. You're just speck of dust to her. You're replaceable she's not. This power imbalance is even worse than Tinder.

Think about it. Would you go to a lion's den to fight a lion? good luck

[Double_Adapter]

I’ve said it many times before and sound like a fucken real estate agent rotation, rotation, rotation. For emotional and mental survival, a punter needs a fucken potpourri of side chicks.

This Disney bullshit about the magic of having a regular? Yeah it's fucken real, and sure she might toss in those extras and perks you won’t get from a random punt, but it comes with hidden risks and a price tag aka emotional attachment. And that cost skyrockets if the bloke’s a simp, is emotionally soft, naive, hasn't had many relationships in the past, loves playing white knight, and likes to offer his shoulder for chicks to cry on (basically an emotional tampon).

And when all is said and done, she'll milk him dry, wrap him up, and toss him out like a used condom.

I’d bet my left testicke that every poor bastard who’s been taken for a ride by a WL/ML was with his so called "special" regular.

[justincase]

I’d bet my left testicke that every poor bastard who’s been taken for a ride by a WL/ML was with his so called "special" regular.

Ha! I was told the words “special customer” two weeks ago by a ML. Maybe someone needs to write them a better script?

[HiredGoon]

You're replaceable she's not. This power imbalance is even worse than Tinder.


You really think so? Dudes here are always talking about how these girls have a shelf life and as long as he has money there’s always another girl.

The power imbalance is definitely the other way.

[Paison]

Truth is, 99% of blokes start punting because they are chasing a happy ending. Over time, that happy ending morphs into a semi or full blown addiction and the chase for a happy ending turns into a chase for a fairy tale ending (pretty woman style). Eventually, the punter falls for the sex worker, she plays him like a violin and milks him for every dollar he's got. The penny drops, when he realises sheÂ’s giving 10 other cunts equal and better services (including raw dog); all while stringing a stable full of thirsty, clingy and needy simps and cashing in on their emotional naivety. And at this point of the story the fairy tale ending curdles into a bitter and twisted ending. This type of shit has been going on since the fucken dawn of time and will continue until the very last horny cunt walks the earth.

In summary - Men love idealistically and women love opportunistically.

Yep, completely agreed.
A quick forum search of this MLs name and previous reviews- seems she was into full gfe experience with deep kissing, intimate hugging, pussy sliding while pretending to hold out on the full shebang.
This is how many MLs con punters into thinking they special. Reserving sex for selected punters to make them feel like they are the "one" - when in reality, you are just one of 10 lol.
Just having 10 simps thinking they are special on a rotation can keep a ML pretty busy with bookings plus any other money and gifts they can leech along the way.

Guys, just stop crying about being played - move on and just stop simping

[Punt2Win]

ML; Yoo special for me. Yoo mayk me feel good not onry in poosy but also in hart. I feel lyke yoo different to udda mens. Yoo sensitive one and me likey dat. I finking of yoo sometimes on day off.

Punter; Ok so where do I transfer the 20K to again?

[Paison]

Plant this in your head every time you start thinking youre special: these chicks are surrounded by men. If she loses you, she'll meet another 10 the next day, probably 40-50 by the end of the week. You're just speck of dust to her. You're replaceable she's not. This power imbalance is even worse than Tinder.

Think about it. Would you go to a lion's den to fight a lion? good luck

That's why punters also need to keep a rotation and dont get fixated on 1.

Funny thing is, these women will ALWAYs reach out to you again - they can't help themselves, and I can almost guarantee it will be the same for this ML - so theres no need to even chase her for the money. She'll be back, she cant help herself lol - just get paid back in pussy when she is back lol - its like having a prepaid tab at the bar 😂

There is one I was fucking regularly years ago that I took out a few times and I lent her 2k (which I was happy to lose to keep the sex going), she then suddenly disappeared - i just assumed she got a boyfriend or husband. Then out of nowhere messages me years later asking how I was - like nothing happened lol.

I checked her insta and she recently got a BBL and posting motivational shit - obviously ran out of $$$ so laying traps for unsuspecting sinps lol - its just covert whoring

I honestly dont understand how some men cant instantly see through this shit lol

[11Bravo]

Lion's den?

Where do you people punt? With whom? Punters afraid she'll put the hoo-doo voo-doo spell on them? Putting your financial health at risk every time you walk into a shop? Myself, I always carry a condom, most of the time, use. For my wallet, its condom is COMMON SENSE and EXPERIENCE (kind of like a condom with spermicide).

Disney? Fantasy?

Without a doubt, that's what I'm paying for. Been to Disneyland many times. And I'm old enough to say, "She's most definitely an e-ticket ride". But I also know that the Princess is just an actress (again showing my age).

Regulars? Why I have the same barber, dentist, doctor; I trust them to deliver excellent service for a fair price. Same with restaurants and bars. I have my regular for each. In both, it's Cheers. I don't have to say a thing; walk in, make eye contact, slight nod, and my order is brought, just the way I like it.

Certainly venture out scouting, always looking for another starting pitcher. You never know when your team roster will be depleted. But it's just nice not having to start from zero, having some history...

Power imbalance?

I just treat her as an equal. I'm straight with her, she's straight with me. Example:


I recently had a previous regular message me. Hadn't seen her for several years, but I'll occasionally get the "how are you?" (translation: BOTG?, come see me) message. She was direct: business down, shop closed, short of money, could I help?

Understand business slack: BKK in July, well, that's a pass for me. Shop closed? That was a surprise, but a quick check and it shouldn't have been, given the development of Suk over the past 30 years. Surprised 24/1 lasted as long as it did. So with those two, understood "short".

I had some empathy, but then, perhaps unlike many here, I've worked "at will" jobs. Plenty of projects. And when you know the project is ending, you start reaching out. First to close associates. Then, as the end date nears, further and further, up to and including someone you've passed in the hallway once or twice.

I didn't take offense, bleat scam, gold digger... Understood desperation, a hail Mary. She was straight with me; I was straight with her. Sorry, cannot. And I explained why. Didn't have to explain, but she respected me, I respected her. Wished her good luck, she said thanks, come see her when I'm next BOTG.

Just BUSINESS. You don't need an MBA to participate.

[Punt2Win]

I honestly dont understand how some men cant instantly see through this shit lol

Easy, they have very little experience with women so everything is "real" and "special" to them. They think women in the industry are the same as civilians. I barely listen to the BS that women rattle off, and when I do I'm reading between the lines to find what the angle is. Females learn deception around the same time they learn to walk whereas some men as evidenced on this forum may never quite get it.

[forgotmyumbrella]

You really think so? Dudes here are always talking about how these girls have a shelf life and as long as he has money there’s always another girl.

The power imbalance is definitely the other way.


That's why punters also need to keep a rotation and dont get fixated on 1.

Correct, but still, you've got 3 prostitutes you paid in your phone, she's got 50 blokes messaging her non-stop. That's what I mean by power imbalance. Most simps only have 1 girl in their contacts. Hell, most men's inboxes are so dry they'd be stoked to get a discount coupon from Domino's. Some evil chicks know this and milk these poor bastards. This is their arena, play accordingly

[justincase]

Correct, but still, you've got 3 prostitutes you paid in your phone, she's got 50 blokes messaging her non-stop. That's what I mean by power imbalance. Most simps only have 1 girl in their contacts.

On the other side of the coin most men cheat so unless you tell your partner you want an open relationship what’s the difference between a punter and a sex worker? The number of partners.

[Double_Adapter]

Regulars? Why I have the same barber, dentist, doctor; I trust them to deliver excellent service for a fair price. Same with restaurants and bars. I have my regular for each. In both, it's Cheers. I don't have to say a thing; walk in, make eye contact, slight nod, and my order is brought, just the way I like it.


Regulars? We’ve all got them and I'm as guilty as the next bloke; same barber, same dentist, same doctor, same accountant, same mechanic. But here’s the thing: we don’t fall in love with them, we don’t tip or pay them more than their standard rate, and we sure as hell don’t give them sexy lingerie, flowers, jewellery, perfumes, dildos, chocolates, Gucci handbag…nor do we blow up their phone every day with “hey baby how are you” or “sweet dreams darling" or “love you” or “thinking of you” on endless repeat.

Moral of the story? Have regulars, just don't fall in love with them. And if you insist on showering your regular with tips and expensive and luxurious gifts then cough up the same for your barber, doctor, accountant, and mechanic too......it's only fair

[Double_Adapter]

Imagine how fucked up this story would be if a punter went and saw his 'regular' bank manager or 'regular' accountant, and they come up with a convincing sob story, and then the punter transfers 10k into their account.

....it's fucked!

[AusBargainPussy]

My dentist keeps txting me every three months.

At least I’m wanted by someone…

wow.... talk about taking sad to a whole new level

[11Bravo]

On the other side of the coin most men cheat so unless you tell your partner you want an open relationship what's the difference between a punter and a sex worker? The number of partners.
Well said. LOL.


Regulars? We've all got them and I'm as guilty as the next bloke; same barber, same dentist, same doctor, same accountant, same mechanic. But here's the thing: we don't fall in love with them, we don't tip or pay them more than their standard rate, and we sure as hell don't give them sexy lingerie, flowers, jewellery, perfumes, dildos, chocolates, Gucci handbag'…nor do we blow up their phone every day with “hey baby how are you” or “sweet dreams darling" or “love you” or “thinking of you” on endless repeat.

Moral of the story? Have regulars, just don't fall in love with them. And if you insist on showering your regular with tips and expensive and luxurious gifts then cough up the same for your barber, doctor, accountant, and mechanic too......it's only fair

Agreed. Like I said, it's BUSINESS. Pay an agreed upon fee for an agreed upon service. Now, I have bought a girl a small birthday cake on her birthday while she was LT, I know what it's like to be away from home and friends while an expat. We shared it. While home, I've bought some t-shirts to give to regulars on my return; NOT designer, just some local store logos to give as gifts to regulars on my return from vacation (more than likely made in their home country but it's the thought that counts). In return, I've received some nice tea, and one gave me a nice tea-set (looks very nice, but those small teacups, not something I'd use, but nice to put on a shelf).

Likewise, I've picked up some Hard Rock shot glasses for my barber - he collects them.

Just a nod of respect to a person.

[justincase]

wow.... talk about taking sad to a whole new level

Yep, it’s the deep dark dingy and often times murky world of secret men’s business that I’ve been drawn into.

Financially mentally physically and orgasmically drained only to be thrown on the scrap heap of life, like a used condom a one use wonder and now no use anymore, teetering on the brink of indecision, wondering “does she love me, will she love me, how much more do I have to give her”?

Waiting waiting waiting for her once a day textual response only to be greeted by a 😁 and a few broken words of English telling me I’m her “special customer”!

Now you know!

This my life, my self inflicted purgatory and yes it’s sad oh so very sad!

My only solace is seeking the comfort from my fickle fellow fellated forum brethren who suffer similar sympathetically but are stronger than I and have travelled this testicularly tortured well worn path many many times before!

They have the gumption and the willpower to override this “fools folly” and soldier on, keeping their women on rotation and their money in their pocket!

[Punt2Win]

My only solace is seeking the comfort from my fickle fellow fellated forum brethren who suffer similar sympathetically but are stronger than I and have travelled this testicularly tortured well worn path many many times before!



Don't go typing sentences like that anymore please. Bravo will get all upset when he realises putting sentences together isn't a skill unique to him.

[puntmewarrior]

Yeah, I actually messaged the op about this. Even though I donÂ’t approve of the actions of the ML, as I tried to point out, any action taken against her ultimately ends up hurting an innocent child. I just asked for that to be taken into consideration before any action be taken.

If her daughter gets hurt in the process, she only has the mother to blame. You likely have no idea how she has been using the daughter and being a single mother as pity to trick all of us for money. All the while spending up on luxury clothing, handbags and living in a lavish apartment.
All she can do now is block us and not return our messages. Its bullshit.

[Legend2000]

Damn straight she can't blame no one else. Ask any of the ladies at SP or the other parlours she's worked at, every one of them will tell you that this isn't isolated to men as she even owes the owner of SP money (a woman!).

This isnt just about a ML milking her clients with a girlfriend experience. It's a scammer taking money wherever she can to fund her luxury lifestyle at others expense.
This is why we need to take action.

[themort]

Damn straight she can't blame no one else. Ask any of the ladies at SP or the other parlours she's worked at, every one of them will tell you that this isn't isolated to men as she even owes the owner of SP money (a woman!).

I don't even think she's the only one from SP that has pulled this scam...

[Mrmax]

Can someone pm me who the girl at SP this thread is referring to or what page it's mentioned ? thanks

[jedibear]

Can someone pm me who the girl at SP this thread is referring to or what page it's mentioned ? thanksDitto for me pls...I want to avoid her. Thanks folks!

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[Urbumcrack]

I already mentioned on page 7 of this thread. She hasn't been at SP for a long time but continued the scamming even while pregnant and even used her baby as fodder for it.
It's been eye opening trading notes with others in the same position.
Honestly, its agood thing she is being exposed. Aside from the fact that we should all go test for STDs now.

[ChadThunderrcock]

I already mentioned on page 7 of this thread. She hasn't been at SP for a long time but continued the scamming even while pregnant and even used her baby as fodder for it.
It's been eye opening trading notes with others in the same position.
Honestly, its agood thing she is being exposed. Aside from the fact that we should all go test for STDs now.

I can't believe all you blokes got played like a fiddle by this Hooker

[Urbumcrack]

Damn straight she can't blame no one else. Ask any of the ladies at SP or the other parlours she's worked at, every one of them will tell you that this isn't isolated to men as she even owes the owner of SP money (a woman!).

This isnt just about a ML milking her clients with a girlfriend experience. It's a scammer taking money wherever she can to fund her luxury lifestyle at others expense.
This is why we need to take action.

Jessie is a nice person and not surprised this ML took advantage of her given their close relationship. I've had some dealings with Jessie and the ML in question even tried to take advantage of that.
Massively money hungry.

[puntmewarrior]

I already mentioned on page 7 of this thread. She hasn't been at SP for a long time but continued the scamming even while pregnant and even used her baby as fodder for it.
It's been eye opening trading notes with others in the same position.
Honestly, its agood thing she is being exposed. Aside from the fact that we should all go test for STDs now.

I just sent you a PM

[Legend2000]

I don't even think she's the only one from SP that has pulled this scam...

I also heard from my regular ML that couple other girls from SP who no longer work at shop did similar.
I wouldnt be surprised if it was this ML who was the one that coached them how to do it as when these other girls ran the scam, this ML was working as the reception and waxing there when she was pregnant.

[ColesBag]

I can't believe all you blokes got played like a fiddle by this Hooker

They're more emotionally intelligent than their customers. It's going to happen.

[secret0]

They're more emotionally intelligent than their customers. It's going to happen.

Yeah. Reminds me of story I heard about a guy who thought he was a WL's only bf and even left his partner and baby for her, but she played him like a fiddle: https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?144969-Indian-this-Indian-that-Hey-how-about-the-17-year-old-girl-raped-by-Arabs-for-6-hours&p=3523634&viewfull=1#post3523634

[charmingninjaman]

If her daughter gets hurt in the process, she only has the mother to blame. You likely have no idea how she has been using the daughter and being a single mother as pity to trick all of us for money. All the while spending up on luxury clothing, handbags and living in a lavish apartment.
All she can do now is block us and not return our messages. Its bullshit.

Can't believe she trick all of you like this. She was so wild outside and even create a facebook page to show her naked body lol. We used to pass her details around and she flirt and fuck around with everyone. One time we even joke that the baby call us daddy and she say yes haha. We knew she was massage girl but never knew she took everyone money like this.
Everyone in the community just known her as con đĩ rẻ tiền.

[Urbumcrack]

What do you mean by facebook page to show her naked body? Is it still up now?

[charmingninjaman]

A page showing her body, she even have the photo on her phone background so we all knew what she was about when we meet her haha. That's why we are so surprised she able to trick so many of the people. It was too obvious to everyone what she do.
If you would have just take her out drinking then you can do anything you want already. Afterward she send you some pictures of things to buy her like flower or home things, you just get it and then can fuck some more haha.
No need to give her that much money, that's so stupid - she was cheaper and can do more than just going brothel.

Not sure if page is up, she removed us as friend and not reply suddenly awhile ago.

[AvgJoe]

can totally understand where the op is coming from as has happened to me recently.

I know where they are working now and probably doing the same thing.

They promised exchange of services for the future as payback but they left where working and now work another place, they have gone from legal place to massage place and extras.

I’m sure they are getting another round of fresh victims in place to pull there stings on.

They have ghosted me and stopped all communication once got money.

Luckily for me I do all as pay id never cash.

They new place of operations has a sister massage with extras premises and they are on the roster for both.

So watch out as her story was very legit, she waited until 4th time see, and then even sent me a message about having a injury and can’t work needing more, only to start and advertise she working another place the next day.

She is also a nurse apparently

[Paison]

I don't even think she's the only one from SP that has pulled this scam...

Which others from Saigon Princess has pulled this?

[Paison]

Yeah. Reminds me of story I heard about a guy who thought he was a WL's only bf and even left his partner and baby for her, but she played him like a fiddle: https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?144969-Indian-this-Indian-that-Hey-how-about-the-17-year-old-girl-raped-by-Arabs-for-6-hours&p=3523634&viewfull=1#post3523634



Just took a look at the thread you dropped about Carol. Gave me a good laugh 😂.

Lesson here is - Smash a parlour chick if you’re bored, but don't fool yourself, once they’ve lived that grind, their head's never straight again. Build life only with a clean civi.

[justincase]

It’s a shame the shoe isn’t on the other foot, women paying for sex.

[Cracker38]

can totally understand where the op is coming from as has happened to me recently.

I know where they are working now and probably doing the same thing.

They promised exchange of services for the future as payback but they left where working and now work another place, they have gone from legal place to massage place and extras.

I’m sure they are getting another round of fresh victims in place to pull there stings on.

They have ghosted me and stopped all communication once got money.

Luckily for me I do all as pay id never cash.

They new place of operations has a sister massage with extras premises and they are on the roster for both.

So watch out as her story was very legit, she waited until 4th time see, and then even sent me a message about having a injury and can’t work needing more, only to start and advertise she working another place the next day.

She is also a nurse apparently

I would be very surprised if the ML the op was talking about is still working a massage shop somewhere as you are suggesting. She was so well known that it would be all over the forum if she was.

[trampslikeus55]

I would be very surprised if the ML the op was talking about is still working a massage shop somewhere as you are suggesting. She was so well known that it would be all over the forum if she was.
Agree. And I am getting the impression that this whole thread is BS. OP opened account just for this. Some of the agreeing negative replies opened on the day. Many of us have experienced the "needy" ML/WL, and we have learnt and moved on. This is becoming a saga. Threats for legal action. You need to find a better solicitor because the correct advise would be to say zero, file your claims and wait for justice. Not encourage a class action from no name punters. Then, without one shread of evidence other than hearsay, drop more ML in the same game. This is either a gilted BF or a vengeful punter. Both would be my guess. Anyway, I am at St Mary's tomorrow so I will ask some friends and clarify more, right or wrong 😎

[Legend2000]

Agree. And I am getting the impression that this whole thread is BS. OP opened account just for this. Some of the agreeing negative replies opened on the day. Many of us have experienced the "needy" ML/WL, and we have learnt and moved on. This is becoming a saga. Threats for legal action. You need to find a better solicitor because the correct advise would be to say zero, file your claims and wait for justice. Not encourage a class action from no name punters. Then, without one shread of evidence other than hearsay, drop more ML in the same game. This is either a gilted BF or a vengeful punter. Both would be my guess. Anyway, I am at St Mary's tomorrow so I will ask some friends and clarify more, right or wrong 😎

Go ask then. Most of the ladies at SP already know exactly who you’re talking about, so you won’t need to rely on ‘new accounts’ or ‘hearsay.’ You’ll hear the same story from them too - it’s only the clueless white-knight punters still in denial.

And your ‘legal advice’ take just shows how little you know - no solicitor tells people to sit back and wait while the same pattern repeats. That’s why we reached out and lodged together, because that’s how you actually get traction, not by parroting Google-lawyer nonsense.

[Cracker38]

Go ask then. Most of the ladies at SP already know exactly who you’re talking about, so you won’t need to rely on ‘new accounts’ or ‘hearsay.’ You’ll hear the same story from them too - it’s only the clueless white-knight punters still in denial.

And your ‘legal advice’ take just shows how little you know - no solicitor tells people to sit back and wait while the same pattern repeats. That’s why we reached out and lodged together, because that’s how you actually get traction, not by parroting Google-lawyer nonsense.

I’m not doubting you gave her money. I’m calling into question a few responses lately, like claiming she had a FB account posting naked pics of herself. A group of users who were all sharing her details and basically supporting her/paying her for the basis of having sex with her. And then the most recent who seems to say she is still working in shops. These posts are kind of sounding a bit BS.

If it’s true there was a bunch of guys all sharing her info, and you were in anyway a part of this or had knowledge of it, it raises questions as to why u would ever give her money if it’s known she’s just sleeping around with so many guys

[Legend2000]

Mate, the post from avgjoe was clearly about his own experience with SOMEONE ELSE (who is currently working in other shops) - you've clearly misread it and jumped to conclusions.

I'm not sure about the FB page, as I haven't seen it for myself, but the lies and money grabbing part isn't, plenty of us have been scammed and plenty of MLs you could ask to confirm.

[Rodman]

Go ask then. Most of the ladies at SP already know exactly who you’re talking about, so you won’t need to rely on ‘new accounts’ or ‘hearsay.’ You’ll hear the same story from them too - it’s only the clueless white-knight punters still in denial.

And your ‘legal advice’ take just shows how little you know - no solicitor tells people to sit back and wait while the same pattern repeats. That’s why we reached out and lodged together, because that’s how you actually get traction, not by parroting Google-lawyer nonsense.
If this girl hasn’t worked there for long time, none of the current working girl would know who you are talking about

[11Bravo]

If this girl hasn’t worked there for long time, none of the current working girl would know who you are talking about

Don't be too sure... she might have left an instruction manual...

[charmingninjaman]

IÂ’m not doubting you gave her money. IÂ’m calling into question a few responses lately, like claiming she had a FB account posting naked pics of herself. A group of users who were all sharing her details and basically supporting her/paying her for the basis of having sex with her. And then the most recent who seems to say she is still working in shops. These posts are kind of sounding a bit BS.

If itÂ’s true there was a bunch of guys all sharing her info, and you were in anyway a part of this or had knowledge of it, it raises questions as to why u would ever give her money if itÂ’s known sheÂ’s just sleeping around with so many guys

You can believe or not is up to you. But I just letting you know truth

[Newbieguy2025]

Wowsers, this woman sounds like a horrible person. Is this sort of thing widespread on the industry or is this just an isolated case. Any red flags to look for?
I'm still new to this sort of thing.

[11Bravo]

Wowsers, this woman sounds like a horrible person. Is this sort of thing widespread on the industry or is this just an isolated case. Any red flags to look for?
I'm still new to this sort of thing.
To avoid the Aus99 TL/DR:
1. Yes, horrible
2. No, as long as you understand the difference between love and sex, business and personal
3. Yes; before leaving your house, look in the mirror. If SUCKER stamped on your forehead, stay home.

[GoldfishMan]

To avoid the Aus99 TL/DR:
1. Yes, horrible
2. No, as long as you understand the difference between love and sex, business and personal
3. Yes; before leaving your house, look in the mirror. If SUCKER stamped on your forehead, stay home.

Yes and BTW, I can tell it's a burner troll account just by the name. Doesn't look like he's planning to stick around, does he?

[Newbieguy2025]

Yes and BTW, I can tell it's a burner troll account just by the name. Doesn't look like he's planning to stick around, does he?

Apologies, should have put a bit more thought into the name lol. I do plan on sticking round.

[Cracker38]

Curious to hear of any update to this saga? Has any complaint been lodged with police, any action being taken by them?

[Linza Giz]

Sorry this happened to you bro. You've seen the iron heart of some of these ladies. It's always better to keep it business and leave them be after the session is over. You don't take damaged goods home, you return to sender

[Urbumcrack]

Curious to hear of any update to this saga? Has any complaint been lodged with police, any action being taken by them?

Hasnt been lodged yet I dont think. I had a coffee in person with OP over the weekend just to understand some things.
He showed me what has been prepared so far, and I must say I'm surprised the amount of things he has been able to gather together.

Will be another week or so as someone decided to join at the last minute (not me).
But once lodged, the police will take anywhere from 2 weeks to 2months to look into it and decide whether to lay charges.

[Paison]

The only reason punters should meet in person are for a threesome or group orgy.

Meeting over getting fleeced a few grand by an ML is the saddest fucking thing I ever heard in my life 😂

Lads, it's time to go hang your head in shame - you aint the avengers 🤣 - you've just become a support group for losers 😂

[Double_Adapter]

Hasnt been lodged yet I dont think. I had a coffee in person with OP over the weekend just to understand some things.
He showed me what has been prepared so far, and I must say I'm surprised the amount of things he has been able to gather together.

Will be another week or so has decided to join at the last minute (not me).
But once lodged, the police will take anywhere from 2 weeks to 2months to look into it and decide whether to lay charges.

Appreciate the update, bro. Any word on the case Linq filed with the cops a few months back?

[Linza Giz]

The only reason punters should meet in person are for a threesome or group orgy.

Meeting over getting fleeced a few grand by an ML is the saddest fucking thing I ever heard in my life 😂

Lads, it's time to go hang your head in shame - you aint the avengers 🤣 - you've just become a support group for losers 😂

They say nice guys finish last for a reason

[Urbumcrack]

The only reason punters should meet in person are for a threesome or group orgy.

Meeting over getting fleeced a few grand by an ML is the saddest fucking thing I ever heard in my life 😂

Lads, it's time to go hang your head in shame - you aint the avengers 🤣 - you've just become a support group for losers 😂

You sound like a sad little keyboard warrior who’s never dealt with anything real, so you sneer at people who got ripped off. She lied through her teeth, played with people’s heads, took their cash, then ignored and hid like a rat. That’s the real disgrace here.
You’re just a clown taking cheap shots at victims because it’s the only way you’ll ever feel big

[Newbieguy2025]

Im interested in knowing how she was able to trick everyone into giving her money.

Did she have an actual relationship with all you outside of normal business?
And is it common for workers to have relations outside the shop?

[justincase]

Perhaps a master punter to date a few sex workers and get them to pay for everything. Get them to buy wallets, man bags, slip on loafers with those tassels, a few gold bling chains, one or two Hawaii shirts and some spray on hair then hand out the spoils amongst the ripped off forum brethren!

[qtron]

Who was this woman? All these posts saying how shit of a person she is yet no one has named her.