ML borrowed few K and disappeared /blocked me

[Legend2000]

Just wondering if anyone else here has had a similar experience.

A few years ago, a ML, I’d been seeing borrowed a few K from me. She gave me a sob story, and I fell for it - admittedly thinking more with my dick than my head. I transferred the money, and not long after she came back from overseas, she blocked me and disappeared without repaying a cent.

Recently, one of my regular MLs told me that the same woman apparently scammed another client out of around $50,000 - same MO, a few dates and meetings outside and then blocked after getting money.

Back when we were seeing each other, she got pregnant (not by me) and told me the father had bailed. I felt sorry for her and stayed involved longer than I should have. Eventually, she hit me with another emotional story about her family being in trouble overseas. So I transferred money and then she blocked me not long after she came back from overseas.

I know I was naive, and I take responsibility for getting sucked in. But I’m curious - has anyone else here crossed paths with this woman or been through something similar?

She was Vietnamese and used to be regularly reviewed on here.

My regular ML said she is going tell the other punter that got conned by her as well. I really want to do something about it - I forgot about it for awhile but so angry now that I got told that there is others out there.

[fixatedperson]

Which shop? Did you tell the shop manager?

[JJBlows]

Whats her name?

[ChadThunderrcock]

Just wondering if anyone else here has had a similar experience.

A few years ago, a ML, I’d been seeing borrowed a few K from me. She gave me a sob story, and I fell for it - admittedly thinking more with my dick than my head. I transferred the money, and not long after she came back from overseas, she blocked me and disappeared without repaying a cent.

Recently, one of my regular MLs told me that the same woman apparently scammed another client out of around $50,000 - same MO, a few dates and meetings outside and then blocked after getting money.

Back when we were seeing each other, she got pregnant (not by me) and told me the father had bailed. I felt sorry for her and stayed involved longer than I should have. Eventually, she hit me with another emotional story about her family being in trouble overseas. So I transferred money and then she blocked me not long after she came back from overseas.

I know I was naive, and I take responsibility for getting sucked in. But I’m curious - has anyone else here crossed paths with this woman or been through something similar?

She was Vietnamese and used to be regularly reviewed on here.

My regular ML said she is going tell the other punter that got conned by her as well. I really want to do something about it - I forgot about it for awhile but so angry now that I got told that there is others out there.

Was she Thai or Vietnamese? They're the usual culprits who scam lonely sad Old Bald Fat Farangs out of money

[Jimbo1]

Was she Thai or Vietnamese? They're the usual culprits who scam lonely sad Old Bald Fat Farangs out of money

Did you even read his post?

[thefatness]

Namedrop her bro who gives a shit need to know who this scamming bitch is

[MindTheGap]

Namedrop her bro who gives a shit need to know who this scamming bitch is

Please do not do this or suggest this

1. Unless there is evidence then it’s just slander. And potentially trouble for the forum for allowing it

2. If there is evidence then it’s a police matter

3. WL names are irrelevant. They change them all the time. Yumi one year at avenue is different to a girl with the same next year. They are all recycled names and always fake.

[Legend2000]

Which shop? Did you tell the shop manager?

I didn't tell anyone, as we started meeting outside of the shops a few times over extended period so no longer shop issue

[Legend2000]

Which shop? Did you tell the shop manager?


Was she Thai or Vietnamese? They're the usual culprits who scam lonely sad Old Bald Fat Farangs out of money

She was Vietnamese

[andrewv]

That was an expensive lesson in keeping it all business. Punters who get too close (friendship) and see ML/WL outside the shops are opening themselves to getting ripped off.

How many times over how many years have we all talked about keeping the sessions limited to getting what you pay for, and nothing else.

The money lent will never be recovered. There is no written record of it. If caught, the woman will say it was a gift.

Case closed except for regrets.

[Chancharlie]

Would this MLs name start with an “A” by any chance? If so send a PM

[yunglean]

Please do not do this or suggest this

1. Unless there is evidence then it’s just slander. And potentially trouble for the forum for allowing it

2. If there is evidence then it’s a police matter

3. WL names are irrelevant. They change them all the time. Yumi one year at avenue is different to a girl with the same next year. They are all recycled names and always fake.

If WL names are fake why does it matter if OP is potentially slandering LMAO it's not like we know their real names or addresses. Some random ho is not going to go through the courts for a payday when they're likely on an expired visa etc anyway

[Legend2000]

That was an expensive lesson in keeping it all business. Punters who get too close (friendship) and see ML/WL outside the shops are opening themselves to getting ripped off.

How many times over how many years have we all talked about keeping the sessions limited to getting what you pay for, and nothing else.

The money lent will never be recovered. There is no written record of it. If caught, the woman will say it was a gift.

Case closed except for regrets.

Yea she played me good for sure.

I have screenshots and messages still showing that it was a loan.
Spoke with friend who is a lawyer and said we can take her to civil court to get her to pay the money back but its worth the time if there are other debts making claim too.

[Double_Adapter]

Was she Thai or Vietnamese? They're the usual culprits who scam lonely sad Old Bald Fat Farangs out of money

Hey Chad it ain't just OBFFs getting dudded by young chicks
https://youtu.be/EPxu4lBLr9E?si=Gba2uX_VBzZjPd8l

There's simps in their 20-30's aka "Pay Pigs" getting screwed over.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/technology/onlyfans/grace-wears-lace-only-fans-star-has-full-access-to-mans-bank-account-spends-50k-for-nothing-in-return-c-15227319

[justincase]

You’re better off making a play for someone who doesn’t charge for sex. It’s a case of do as I say not do what I do as I date SW’s amongst others.

For example this afternoon I made a pass at a late twenty something hot blonde Asian piece. Quite possibly she may be a trans girl , petite puffy breasts, slim tight body, beautiful skin, perfect makeup, tall, and she’s such a stunner too, so now she has my number and I hers. Just a random meet in the street. It’s the second time we’ve crossed paths this week and previously I had already decided to hit her up if I see her again.

The thrill of the ask, it’s exciting. Way better than paying and getting. So we talked for thirty minutes, if she wasn’t interested she’d have cut it short. English is good, mandarin is one of her other languages. We live close to one another…Time will tell.

[jfoldbar]

Did you even read his post?

i dont think he did

[jfoldbar]

OP. i wanna pm you but i cant. i think its because baby member.

i assume you are a regular here, and you made new account just for this topic?

[Casshern11]

After seeing this thread and reading what OP wrote, It is exactly the same what I went through and have a feeling it's the same ML that took me for a ride.

[jfoldbar]

PP has a thread just to advertise scammers.

[secret0]

Did you even read his post?


i dont think he did

At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if he's actually autistic or a bot.

His obsession with Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth.
Any time Thais are mentioned, it's always OBFFs and how Thai WLs will steal all their money.
Any time Japanese WLs are mentioned, he can't stop talking about host debts and how every single Japanese WL absolutely must be in host debt.
And that inevitably leads to how the only way to get a woman is to be fit and handsome, because he can't fathom anything else.
Like, these little tidbits and factoids he learns are the only things he knows about them and must apply to every single person of those races or body types, and whenever someone gives an example of the opposite, his brain can't handle the world he's built in his head being wrong.

[jfoldbar]

At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if he's actually autistic or a bot.

His obsession with Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth.
Any time Thais are mentioned, it's always OBFFs and how Thai WLs will steal all their money.
Any time Japanese WLs are mentioned, he can't stop talking about host debts and how every single Japanese WL absolutely must be in host debt.
And that inevitably leads to how the only way to get a woman is to be fit and handsome, because he can't fathom anything else.
Like, these little tidbits and factoids he learns are the only things he knows about them and must apply to every single person of those races or body types, and whenever someone gives an example of the opposite, his brain can't handle the world he's built in his head being wrong.

and the only people that can ever be scammed are lonely old fat baldies.

[secret0]

1. Unless there is evidence then it’s just slander. And potentially trouble for the forum for allowing it

2. If there is evidence then it’s a police matter

This is all that really matters.

You lend money to family and friends you actually care about, but you should do it without the expectation of getting it back because you are helping them out.
'Lending' money to a stranger is the same thing... except there's no real relationship there.

[I_luv_doggie.]

To answer the specific question, no I have not.
But many years ago I did give a WL some cash to help her out. With no intention for it to be repaid.

The difference was that we become friends. No not that type of friend.

Almost 20 years later we still are and keep in touch.

You just got had.

[Kiryu0]

Man new account, one post. And no responses after posting this?

Is this even a credible story?

[Chancharlie]

Man new account, one post. And no responses after posting this?

Is this even a credible story?

Well he hasn’t named anyone yet. If he’s speaking about who I think he’s speaking about then I can vouch for the story he’s telling.

[HiredGoon]

At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if he's actually autistic or a bot.

His obsession with Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth.
Any time Thais are mentioned, it's always OBFFs and how Thai WLs will steal all their money.
Any time Japanese WLs are mentioned, he can't stop talking about host debts and how every single Japanese WL absolutely must be in host debt.
And that inevitably leads to how the only way to get a woman is to be fit and handsome, because he can't fathom anything else.
Like, these little tidbits and factoids he learns are the only things he knows about them and must apply to every single person of those races or body types, and whenever someone gives an example of the opposite, his brain can't handle the world he's built in his head being wrong.

I'm pretty sure he's mildly retarded rather than autistic. Just my non professional diagnosis.

I still think he should start a podcast though. He could go to Thailand and interview OBFFs and maybe Thai girls too. Prove all the stereotypes true. And then when it blows up he might be able to interview Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth too.

[jfoldbar]

Well he hasn’t named anyone yet. If he’s speaking about who I think he’s speaking about then I can vouch for the story he’s telling.

are you the guy that lost 50k ?



i was thinking. OP said this happens a few years ago, why wait so long to bring it up? how does that help anyone? and, is she even still around? if shes out of the game it doesnt really matter now.

[HiredGoon]

Well he hasn’t named anyone yet. If he’s speaking about who I think he’s speaking about then I can vouch for the story he’s telling.

And if he's not then you can't...

[Legend2000]

OP. i wanna pm you but i cant. i think its because baby member.

i assume you are a regular here, and you made new account just for this topic?

Yes, i create another account as I dont want to cause issues. Will PM you from my other account.

[Legend2000]

OP. i wanna pm you but i cant. i think its because baby member.

i assume you are a regular here, and you made new account just for this topic?


Would this MLs name start with an “A” by any chance? If so send a PM

Yes, name starts with an A. I will pm you from my old account.

[chemistry84]

Never give these hoes any money besides the money to fuck that. That's all.

[Chancharlie]

And if he's not then you can't...

No not me luckily.

Lol why are you guys so protective over someone who hasn’t been named. OP is just asking if something similar has happened. And I just responded to OP because I may know who he’s talking about. What she did wasn’t good. If all this post does is raise some more awareness to help other punters not get scammed or lose money like this then why not?

[jfoldbar]

No not me luckily.

Lol why are you guys so protective over someone who hasn’t been named. OP is just asking if something similar has happened. And I just responded to OP because I may know who he’s talking about. What she did wasn’t good. If all this post does is raise some more awareness to help other punters not get scammed or lose money like this then why not?

i agree here. we all like to think we're tough and all that but lets face it, we are all human and all it takes is the right pussy with the right con talk to come along, and it could happen to anyone.
its about raising awareness and being a reminder to us all.

im just curios though charlie, if you know the story, or mayby know the story, that means you have decided to keep your mouth shut about a girl that likes to con the guys, until now. why? in the interest of rasing awareness shouldnt you have said something before? to potentially help out another punter from being conned/scammed?

[Chancharlie]

i agree here. we all like to think we're tough and all that but lets face it, we are all human and all it takes is the right pussy with the right con talk to come along, and it could happen to anyone.
its about raising awareness and being a reminder to us all.

im just curios though charlie, if you know the story, or mayby know the story, that means you have decided to keep your mouth shut about a girl that likes to con the guys, until now. why? in the interest of rasing awareness shouldnt you have said something before? to potentially help out another punter from being conned/scammed?

Fair. I heard of this story a while back from an ML who worked with the ML in question. I don’t know the poor chap who lost the $50K. I just heard she walked away from him without paying. I didn’t get much else of the story. If the chap himself didn’t bring it up why would I? They may have resolved the issue between them.

Again, this may not even be the same ML we are talking about. Which is why I asked for confirmation and didn’t mention any names.

I know how OP can maybe send a message to said ML if she has blocked him. Just trying to assist another punter out. I know lending money to an ML is fraught with risk. But not all MLs are going to run off with your money. Thinking with his dick or not, he attempted to help another human. And got stung. If it was me, I wouldn’t expect to get that money back.. but if I was asking for help I would appreciate any help I could get.

[Double_Adapter]

I'm pretty sure he's mildly retarded rather than autistic. Just my non professional diagnosis.

I still think he should start a podcast though. He could go to Thailand and interview OBFFs and maybe Thai girls too. Prove all the stereotypes true. And then when it blows up he might be able to interview Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth too.

.....Meanwhile, millions of fans across the planet are scouring the internet for the latest goss on Hollywood heartthrobs Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth—only to find themselves accidentally deep-diving into an Aussie sex forum and learning about old bald fat farangs swapping tips on shops, WLs, MLs and intel on the local rub 'n tug scene.

But as they say in the biz, any publicity is good publicity, even if it’s more sleaze than silver screen.

[Legend2000]

OP. i wanna pm you but i cant. i think its because baby member.

i assume you are a regular here, and you made new account just for this topic?

Yes, thats right. I'll reach out to you from my other account.

I already in touch with someone else too. It seems like this person did the dirty on a few people. Its time for reckoning.

[11Bravo]

A few years ago, a ML, I’d been seeing borrowed a few K from me. She gave me a sob story, and I fell for it - admittedly thinking more with my dick than my head. I transferred the money, and not long after she came back from overseas, she blocked me and disappeared without repaying a cent.

Be skeptical, cautious, but not all requests are scams; some are valid. Except for an institution, e.g. bank, consider any "loan" to family, friends, strangers, a GIFT. Never "loan" more than you can afford to simply write off. If it's paid back, be pleasantly surprised. If it's not, it's not. Let it go, lesson learned.

I've done it, one of my happiest memories...

[pmmeyourknee_]

Never forget mate, They only see your wallet. Everything else is just a side quest to get into it. Asking your contact, asking you to come, being nice and flirty to you, complimenting you, even dating you for a bit.

https://i.postimg.cc/xCkZF1VK/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-22-38-pm.png

This is just a snippet. I will touch more on this topic more deeply here, Stay tune! https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?143388-What-Japanese-sex-workers-think-of-punters/page10

[Legend2000]

OP. i wanna pm you but i cant. i think its because baby member.

i assume you are a regular here, and you made new account just for this topic?


Be skeptical, cautious, but not all requests are scams; some are valid. Except for an institution, e.g. bank, consider any "loan" to family, friends, strangers, a GIFT. Never "loan" more than you can afford to simply write off. If it's paid back, be pleasantly surprised. If it's not, it's not. Let it go, lesson learned.

I did let it go for a long time. But after knowing she did it to others - not letting it go anymore.

This is not a shop problem - the shops were always professional and good to me.

I also helped other MLs who paid me back so this person is just of bad character.

Luckily, I have been good to my regulars and maintained a respectful relationship and they already helping me gather what I need and ways we can teach her she can't do this to people.

[Warriorking]

That’s sucks! But you know they’ve got this saying in America — ‘Think of it as paying to dodge a bullet.

[jfoldbar]

.....Meanwhile, millions of fans across the planet are scouring the internet for the latest goss on Hollywood heartthrobs Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth—only to find themselves accidentally deep-diving into an Aussie sex forum and learning about old bald fat farangs swapping tips on shops, WLs, MLs and intel on the local rub 'n tug scene.

But as they say in the biz, any publicity is good publicity, even if it’s more sleaze than silver screen.

hahaha. the google bots gunna send the brad pit fans here

[andrewv]

Never forget mate, They only see your wallet. Everything else is just a side quest to get into it. Asking your contact, asking you to come, being nice and flirty to you, complimenting you, even dating you for a bit.

https://i.postimg.cc/xCkZF1VK/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-22-38-pm.png

This is just a snippet. I will touch more on this topic more deeply here, Stay tune! https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?143388-What-Japanese-sex-workers-think-of-punters/page10

That's all there is to it. Yet, to this day, thousands of punters seem to want more than sex. Things they can't find in open society, like a woman that actually likes them and enjoys spending timw with them, and how they (punters) are giving these working girls "pleasure".

Real sad cases.

[justincase]

That's all there is to it. Yet, to this day, thousands of punters seem to want more than sex. Things they can't find in open society, like a woman that actually likes them and enjoys spending timw with them, and how they (punters) are giving these working girls "pleasure".

Real sad cases.

FFS not every punter is tarred with same brush.

I punt them, date them, then dump them. Dump them on a whim, dump them because I’m not desperate, dump them because I always have more to burn.

They’re all a commodity with a useby date.

Tomorrow another load arrives at the airport.

Today I told this to a guy who is married to a Thai WL half his age. He didn’t like my attitude. Well F… him too. They came to play and they’ll get played and why not?

The rest of you can go about your business…

[Legend2000]

I'm sure she doesn't have a soul and has hurt many. Just thinking back makes me feel so dirty tbh, once I found out about others.

I got taken for a ride bigtime.
Now motivated to do something about it so she can't do it to others.
People like this usually don't learn their lesson until they are exposed.

[Legend2000]

That's all there is to it. Yet, to this day, thousands of punters seem to want more than sex. Things they can't find in open society, like a woman that actually likes them and enjoys spending timw with them, and how they (punters) are giving these working girls "pleasure".

Real sad cases.

Being honest, I only wanted her body at the time and was thinking with my dick. I would never be with someone who passionately serviced hundreds of men and she is as passionate as they come, hence all the reviews.
Like I said, I got taken for a ride and I know it.

That doesn't mean she can go around do it to everyone. Thats not right.

[J3ffrey]

Being honest, I only wanted her body at the time and was thinking with my dick. I would never be with someone who passionately serviced hundreds of men.
Like I said, I got taken for a ride and I know it.

That doesn't mean she can go around do it to everyone. Thats not right.

Exactly right, woman like that all they see is money. Come to think of it, Vietnamese starting with a "A" could be the one I'm thinking of. She quit because she got pregnant and apparently got herself a sugar daddy.

[Legend2000]

Exactly right, woman like that all they see is money. Come to think of it, Vietnamese starting with a "A" could be the one I'm thinking of. She quit because she got pregnant and apparently got herself a sugar daddy.

Yep, Was told by my regular ML that she owed too many people money so couldn't go back to being a regular ML - I haven't seen her back and I've been looking, so too have others according to her.

Was also told she had a sugar daddy or daddies looking after her - no doubt she is leeching and taking advantage of them too.
How someone like that could have a kid is beyond me.

[J3ffrey]

Yep, Was told she owed too many people money so couldn't go back to being a regular ML - I haven't seen her back and I've been looking, so too have others according to her.

Was also told she had a sugar daddy or daddies looking after her - no doubt she is leeching and taking advantage of them too.
How someone like that could have a kid is beyond me.

Would like to send you a pm, but since your account is new it won't let me. Just to confirm my suspicion, because the stories I heard about this person is just diabolical and has serious money issues.

[Legend2000]

Would like to send you a pm, but since your account is new it won't let me. Just to confirm my suspicion, because the stories I heard about this person is just diabolical and has serious money issues.

Pm'd you just now

[JamesS]

Legend2000, Sorry to hear this happened to you and others and good you are exposing it.

When I "loan" money to ANYONE my going in position has always been, I'm never going to see that money again, realise probably a bit cynical but a good way to be sometimes.

Most recent "loan" I heard of personally was a a close friend who loaned a Canadian woman ~$7k, she was a lady friend he'd met online (not a dating/sex site) and each had travelled to spend time together etc., he'd met her young daughter, been talk of her moving here or him to Canada. Suddenly radio silence.

[ChadThunderrcock]

FFS not every punter is tarred with same brush.

I punt them, date them, then dump them. Dump them on a whim, dump them because I’m not desperate, dump them because I always have more to burn.

They’re all a commodity with a useby date.

Tomorrow another load arrives at the airport.

Today I told this to a guy who is married to a Thai WL half his age. He didn’t like my attitude. Well F… him too. They came to play and they’ll get played and why not?

The rest of you can go about your business…
This is the way....

The guy who married the Thai WL is an Old Bald Fat Farang. And a very low-value man at that

I thought guys would've learned by now from all these Old Bald Fat Farangs getting ripped off by Thai girls

But still, you have all these non-Brad Pitts & non-Chris Hemsworth guys giving money to these WL's.

They are White Knights in shining armours who think they can rescuse these poor Thai girls or Viet girls from a life of poverty. I guess when a guy isn't handsome, the only thing he can offer a girl is money 555

[Legend2000]

Thanks to those who reached out. Turns out she’s pulled the same stunt with others and is already pretty well known among punters and in the industry for this (even amongst people who didnt fall for the scam)

Around 90% of the PMs I received already knew who she was, even the ones who weren’t scammed.

Honestly, it’s insane how someone operates like this so openly.
Can’t believe I fell for it.
When someone gives you the full-on girlfriend experience - passionately kissing you, acting like they’re into it - it’s easy to forget it’s just a tactic.
Man, she makes me feel dirty even thinking bout it now.

Won’t happen again. Just putting this out there so others are aware .
We are weighing options and have a few ideas on what to do next

[ChadThunderrcock]

Thanks to those who reached out. Turns out she’s pulled the same stunt with others and is already pretty well known among punters and in the industry for this (even amongst people who didnt fall for the scam)

Around 90% of the PMs I received already knew who she was, even the ones who weren’t scammed.

Honestly, it’s insane how someone operates like this so openly.
Can’t believe I fell for it.
When someone gives you the full-on girlfriend experience - passionately kissing you, acting like they’re into it - it’s easy to forget it’s just a tactic.
Man, she makes me feel dirty even thinking bout it now.

Won’t happen again. Just putting this out there so others are aware .
We are weighing options and have a few ideas on what to do next

I can't believe you blokes are still falling for the old "Sick Buffalo" stories from these poor farm girls 555

Its a well known fact that SE Asian women WL's/ML's, especially Thai & Viet girls, are all very money hungry. They're all about money.

They're also the biggest Australian VISA chasers I've ever seen

These girls will scam you and bleed you dry until theres nothing left. Then move onto the next sucker.

Just look at all those Old Bald Fat Farangs who lost everything to some Thai Bargirl (a.k.a Hooker)

[pmmeyourknee_]

Thanks to those who reached out. Turns out she’s pulled the same stunt with others and is already pretty well known among punters and in the industry for this (even amongst people who didnt fall for the scam)

Around 90% of the PMs I received already knew who she was, even the ones who weren’t scammed.

Honestly, it’s insane how someone operates like this so openly.
Can’t believe I fell for it.
When someone gives you the full-on girlfriend experience - passionately kissing you, acting like they’re into it - it’s easy to forget it’s just a tactic.
Man, she makes me feel dirty even thinking bout it now.

Won’t happen again. Just putting this out there so others are aware .
We are weighing options and have a few ideas on what to do next

Yup, they know exactly who their main customers are, lonely, single guys who struggle to get girls in real life. Just a bit of warmth is enough to open their wallets. So, of course, some of them (not all, to be fair) take advantage of this and make a killing off it. Trust me, I’ve seen it happen over and over. Be careful with girls who provide GFE, seriously.

That’s why I created this thread:
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?143388-What-Japanese-sex-workers-think-of-punters

Please support it and help spread awareness.
Cheers.

[pmmeyourknee_]

Read the Bible bro, Even the strongest man (Samson) and the wisest man (Solomon) in the Bible were defeated by Lust.

Women who know how to manipulate men are the most dangerous creatures on earth. They are especially prevalent in this industry we're deeply in.

Be careful with girls who are flirty or GFE type.

Cheers

[jfoldbar]

Read the Bible bro, Even the strongest man (Samson) and the wisest man (Solomon) in the Bible were defeated by Lust.

Women who know how to manipulate men are the most dangerous creatures on earth. They are especially prevalent in this industry we're deeply in.

Be careful with girls who are flirty or GFE type.

Cheers

hahahah....the bible? a fantasy book....it is true though no man is immuned.....i watched a doco about ghenkis khan. they reckon his whole rampage started because someone shagged his missus.

[Double_Adapter]

I can't believe you blokes are still falling for the old "Sick Buffalo" stories from these poor farm girls 555

Its a well known fact that SE Asian women WL's/ML's, especially Thai & Viet girls, are all very money hungry. They're all about money.

They're also the biggest Australian VISA chasers I've ever seen

These girls will scam you and bleed you dry until theres nothing left. Then move onto the next sucker.

Just look at all those Old Bald Fat Farangs who lost everything to some Thai Bargirl (a.k.a Hooker)

People have been falling for the same old “Sick Buffalo” story since the fucken dawn of time and nothing has changed. As humans, we’re gullible animals, ready to believe almost any fucken lie; especially if it’s delivered convincingly enough. We like to think we’ve evolved and that we’re smarter than previous generations, but that is the biggest fucken horse shit ever.
Show me a chick with a huge rack, a round meaty arse, long legs, a tight body with a tight pussy, and a good mouth piece and I'll show you 10 suckers thirsting after her.

From the moment we’re born, we’re fed lies; conditioned, manipulated, and bound to something. Whether it’s a bank, a toxic relationship, a hot chick, a marriage, a family, a manipulative partner, a family business, a mortgage, an education, a job, a career, chronic health issues etc we’re all enslaved to something.

In the past, slavery was brutal and explicit; old bald fat white dudes with whips and chains. Today, the game has changed, but the players haven’t. The old bald fat white dudes in the cotton fields have been replaced by old bald fat white farangs in Armani suits. Physical slavery has morphed into economic slavery a system where money is printed out of thin air, and somehow you owe it back… with interest. It’s fucken insane.

And.......Covid-19 is right up there among the top 10 biggest cons in modern history. We poured trillions of dollars fighting it and what do we have to show for it? Fuck all!

[Bigleaf]

Can we get a name or can somone pm me.

[justincase]

I’m thinking of starting a thread titled “love song dedication”.

It’s for all the punters out there who feel a special connection with their favourite WL or ML.

Who knows they may read it and one day be yours!

Thoughts?

[Double_Adapter]

I’m thinking of starting a thread titled “love song dedication”.

It’s for all the punters out there who feel a special connection with their favourite WL or ML.

Who knows they may read it and one day be yours!

Thoughts?

Here you go I’ll nominate one.....

To All the Whores I've Loved Before
by Julio Iglesias and Willie Nelson

[themort]

Can we get a name or can somone pm me.

The name really doesn't matter, it happens all over, I have known of girls who took guys for $10k or more and owed multiple other ML lots too.

Gambling is a common element.

[Niceguy11]

The name really doesn't matter, it happens all over, I have known of girls who took guys for $10k or more and owed multiple other ML lots too.

Gambling is a common element.

It certainly is. One WL owed around $150,000 after borrowing it from the boss to gamble. She won about $60,000 on the pokies (lightning link), blew it all within a week or two then borrowed more money.

No matter how nice or friendly a WL is, they will always take advantage of punters who cave in to their demands or hear their sob stories. One J WL who has since returned to Japan quoted me $5,000 for 24 hours with her. No fucking way would I pay that type of money. Blocked and deleted.

[Chancharlie]

The name really doesn't matter, it happens all over, I have known of girls who took guys for $10k or more and owed multiple other ML lots too.

Gambling is a common element.

If these girls are just given anonymity and blame is just placed on the guy losing the money, what deterrence is there for any other ML looking to do the same thing?

[EYA06072021]

Not V Apple, right? But the girl from Wonderland?

[Simmofresh]

I suspect I’ve also been scammed by this same person. Can someone pm to confirm?

[Legend2000]

Not V Apple, right? But the girl from Wonderland?

Its NOT V Apple

[Candy1234]

Viet? Then gotta be Anna 😉

[Bangers1111]

I have lent 3 girls money over the years, it's never easy getting it back. 1 I lent 1k, took almost 13 months to pay back, another 1k during lockdown, only way I will get that back is going to see her and get free or cheap extras, shop is out of the way for me and my tastes have changed.

3rd one I still see regularly and we are pretty tight. Probably lent her 5k over the years, got maybe $1500 in cash and maybe another $2000 in free time, might book 2 hours and pay for one or book a hotel, go to her place and not pay any or much. I have pretty much written the rest off or will get back in freebies I suppose.

Only lend them $$$ if you don't need it. Some of them get themselves in to pretty dire situations and you have to have a heart of stone not to help them, especially if you can.

[andrewv]

It certainly is. One WL owed around $150,000 after borrowing it from the boss to gamble. She won about $60,000 on the pokies (lightning link), blew it all within a week or two then borrowed more money.

No matter how nice or friendly a WL is, they will always take advantage of punters who cave in to their demands or hear their sob stories. One J WL who has since returned to Japan quoted me $5,000 for 24 hours with her. No fucking way would I pay that type of money. Blocked and deleted.

Instead of $5,000 for 24 hours with a J girl, you can get any number of sugarbabies from seeking dot com for around $2,000 for as many hours as you like. Even less with some of them.

[silly boy]

I met WL. Solo mum trying to escape partner. Promised the earth in exchange for help. She did need help, but took advantage of me. Took me for a ride. Very expensive lesson. On the other hand, I met a WL as her first customer. I offered advice. We became friends. She no longer does sex work. But we remain supportive friends. She has never asked for anything.

[Legend2000]

Instead of $5,000 for 24 hours with a J girl, you can get any number of sugarbabies from seeking dot com for around $2,000 for as many hours as you like. Even less with some of them.

I bet the ML in question is on one of those sites playing sugardaddies now. Either that or scarlett blue. Apple never falls far from the tree.

They all act like they want a relationship but its all a game. She'd be good at that.

On a better note, I met a young asian lass on there with the most gorgeous set of tits I've had the pleasure of grabbing for a long time.
She's also played the game of trying to lure me into something more a few times by giving me sob stories and messaging outside of our PPM - but I'm wiser now and keeping it purely transactional. If she tries anymore I'll just pump and dump her - move onto the next and already got a couple I'm chatting with..
They are all the same - a commodity with a used by date.

[HiredGoon]

They are all the same - a commodity with a used by date.

So just like you!

[Legend2000]

So just like you!

Yes you right about that.
To these women, we're only useful as long as we're spending money. But for us, their value fades with age - we can always earn more, but they can’t turn back time. Once they get into their 30s, they are on borrowed time to be hung out to dry for the next young pretty thing waiting to take their place.

[Niceguy11]

Instead of $5,000 for 24 hours with a J girl, you can get any number of sugarbabies from seeking dot com for around $2,000 for as many hours as you like. Even less with some of them.

Thanks for that info bro. I'll look into it.

[jfoldbar]

so, whats the whole point of this thread. we didnt learn a thing so noone benefited.

[Legend2000]

so, whats the whole point of this thread. we didnt learn a thing so noone benefited.

The point of this post was to get intel for planning. That’s been achieved.

Can’t say who she is publicly (yet) - for obvious reasons. But promise that day will come.

People in the know (there are heaps) already knew. For everyone else, there’s more than enough in here to give you a pretty solid idea if you really want to know.

Let’s just say things are moving behind the scenes.

[ChadThunderrcock]

You fellas have to think with your brains

Any girl from a poor Third World Country will be a money hungry scammer. Thai girls, Viet girls. Keep your guards up with these girls. These girls will do anything for money because of their poverty backgrounds. And will be after a VISA too

This doesn't happen with J & K girls as they are from developed First World Nations. They are generally just here to work then go back once they make enough. And they are not VISA chasers

[EYA06072021]

You fellas have to think with your brains

Any girl from a poor Third World Country will be a money hungry scammer. Thai girls, Viet girls. Keep your guards up with these girls. These girls will do anything for money because of their poverty backgrounds. And will be after a VISA too

This doesn't happen with J & K girls as they are from developed First World Nations. They are generally just here to work then go back once they make enough. And they are not VISA chasers
That’s very racist and sallow. You think J & K are not gold diggers? That’s ridiculous!

[forgotmyumbrella]

Most of them are gold diggers

[pmmeyourknee_]

Wouldn't it be worse if you're from a first world country and still choose this job? I'm pretty sure they could work a normal job back in Japan and live a decent life. I mean, most of them are good looking. I'm sure they'd have opportunities. Unless it's about debt, it has to come from greed.

https://i.postimg.cc/02xRX6xY/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-29-51-pm.png

More on this to come, stay tune https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?143388-What-Japanese-sex-workers-think-of-punters/page10

[justincase]

Most of them are gold diggers

How many western women have shafted guys out of money? Read some of the divorce settlements.

[ChadThunderrcock]

That’s very racist and sallow. You think J & K are not gold diggers? That’s ridiculous!
Call it what you want. It is what it is...

You should f*ck around with a Thai/Viet girl and find out for yourself

If J & K girls want money or "extra" from you, they will ask you for it. They are honest about it

They will not try to scam you or tell you "Sick Buffalo" stories like the Thai girls & Viet girls do, to extract money out of you

[ChadThunderrcock]

Wouldn't it be worse if you're from a first world country and still choose this job? I'm pretty sure they could work a normal job back in Japan and live a decent life. I mean, most of them are good looking. I'm sure they'd have opportunities. Unless it's about debt, it has to come from greed.

https://i.postimg.cc/02xRX6xY/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-29-51-pm.png

More on this to come, stay tune https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?143388-What-Japanese-sex-workers-think-of-punters/page10

J girls do this job because of Host Club debts

They don't do it out of desperation or poverty like the Thai girls or Viet girls. Thai/Viet girls also tend to target ugly men or Old Bald Fat Farangs who they know have no other options with women... as no First World woman will even give these guys the time of day or give them a second look

[11Bravo]

The point of this post was to get intel for planning. That’s been achieved.

Can’t say who she is publicly (yet) - for obvious reasons. But promise that day will come.

People in the know (there are heaps) already knew. For everyone else, there’s more than enough in here to give you a pretty solid idea if you really want to know.

Let’s just say things are moving behind the scenes.
How long are you going to go on bleating about this? :fire:

IME, holding a grudge does more damage to you than to the other party. Just make your case and move on. And by "case", I mean that literally. Hope you have a signed (better witnessed) IOU, even better a signed and witnessed Loan Agreement (easy to find those for free on the internet). Then you've got a paper trail for court. Otherwise, you say "loan", she says "gift". Someone doesn't want to sign a loan agreement, well then, maybe it's not REALLY a loan... And then ask yourself what assets does she have that can be recovered... Pyrrhic victory?

And it's not like you've lost a kidney... money... it's not irreplaceable. Methinks your ego is more bruised than your wallet... :shame:

And to all the hardcore, bad-assed mofo's yapping about how tough they are... Yea, right. You really need to get a higher quality of friends. For the truly hardcore, we don't even get asked... :bad_egg:

[AHLUNGOR]

This is all that really matters.

You lend money to family and friends you actually care about, but you should do it without the expectation of getting it back because you are helping them out.
'Lending' money to a stranger is the same thing... except there's no real relationship there.

One thing the OP didn't mention in his post was how many free sex he had with the girl outside the shop? if she had fucked his brain off before getting money transferred, then regardless of the story, he should just treated the whole thing as paying off a high class escort. end of story.

But if there ain't no free sex, then it's different story.

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

I'm sure she doesn't have a soul and has hurt many. Just thinking back makes me feel so dirty tbh, once I found out about others.

I got taken for a ride bigtime.
Now motivated to do something about it so she can't do it to others.
People like this usually don't learn their lesson until they are exposed.


Hi Legend,


Quick question if you don't mind, while it was good between you two, did you have free sex with her outside the shop ? Just wondering how far the relationship/friendship had gone before she started asking for money ?

[Double_Adapter]

I think you might be sniffin’ out the real story here AHL. This story has got more juicy and raunchy bits than a late-night SBS movie.

As HiredGoon rightly stated, there's 3 versions to this saga; the punters version, the chicks version, and the truth - which lies somewhere in between.

[secret0]

One thing the OP didn't mention in his post was how many free sex he had with the girl outside the shop? if she had fucked his brain off before getting money transferred, then regardless of the story, he should just treated the whole thing as paying off a high class escort. end of story.

But if there ain't no free sex, then it's different story.

Cheers

Oh, I agree with you - if he was getting regular sex out of it, it's not so much lending money as it is an arrangement.

[Legend2000]

J girls do this job because of Host Club debts

They don't do it out of desperation or poverty like the Thai girls or Viet girls. Thai/Viet girls also tend to target ugly men or Old Bald Fat Farangs who they know have no other options with women... as no First World woman will even give these guys the time of day or give them a second look

I may fit the definition of an old farang. But that doesn’t mean it’s fair game to rip me off.

I’m always happy to pay your worth or even more when it’s transactional and thats not an issue.

This isn’t about nationality, it’s about what kind of person you are.
Some were raised with morals. Others were just taught to open their legs & smile while they drain you. That’s not survival. That’s being a parasite in cheap heels.

[Legend2000]

One thing the OP didn't mention in his post was how many free sex he had with the girl outside the shop? if she had fucked his brain off before getting money transferred, then regardless of the story, he should just treated the whole thing as paying off a high class escort. end of story.

But if there ain't no free sex, then it's different story.

Cheers

It was all paid for.
And this was specifically a loan which I have evidence to prove it was such.

[Legend2000]

How long are you going to go on bleating about this? :fire:

IME, holding a grudge does more damage to you than to the other party. Just make your case and move on. And by "case", I mean that literally. Hope you have a signed (better witnessed) IOU, even better a signed and witnessed Loan Agreement (easy to find those for free on the internet). Then you've got a paper trail for court. Otherwise, you say "loan", she says "gift". Someone doesn't want to sign a loan agreement, well then, maybe it's not REALLY a loan... And then ask yourself what assets does she have that can be recovered... Pyrrhic victory?

And it's not like you've lost a kidney... money... it's not irreplaceable. Methinks your ego is more bruised than your wallet... :shame:

And to all the hardcore, bad-assed mofo's yapping about how tough they are... Yea, right. You really need to get a higher quality of friends. For the truly hardcore, we don't even get asked... :bad_egg:

Never said I didn’t have a loan agreement, maybe read properly before trying to flex your Google Law degree.

Funny coming from a bloke with 2,000+ posts on a brothel forum acting like some enlightened guru while claiming he's "hardcore" .
You talk about ego, but you’re still here trying to sound above it all while throwing passive jabs like anyone asked for your approval.

Me thinks you might be trying to play white knight to this scammer for a shot at some pussy. Hate to break it to you but simping in paragraphs won't pay off. She only sees the $$$ so stop wasting your time.

[ChadThunderrcock]

I may fit the definition of an old farang. But that doesn’t mean it’s fair game to rip me off.

I’m always happy to pay your worth or even more when it’s transactional and thats not an issue.

This isn’t about nationality, it’s about what kind of person you are.
Some were raised with morals. Others were just taught to open their legs & smile while they drain you. That’s not survival. That’s being a parasite in cheap heels.

I see what you mean.

Its totally all about Nationality

Were raised in a Western country with Ethics & Morals. So you will treat these girls fair. But these Thai/Viet girls were raised in Third World countries where they are are not taught Ethics & Morals. They grew up starving & in poverty. And will try to get money to survive by any means necsesary. Even if if it means lying, cheating, scamming & stealing.

So its not a level playing field. You are dealing with them with your Western mindset. They are dealing with you with how they were raised. So they will scam you then ghost you, and think nothing of it. And they have no remorse over it.

J & K girls were raised in a First World developed country. Thats why they are generally more honest and not scammy like these Thai or Viet girls.

You just have to be smart and have your wits switched on at all times

[pmmeyourknee_]

J & K girls were raised in a First World developed country. Thats why they are generally more honest and not scammy like these Thai or Viet girls.

You just have to be smart and have your wits switched on at all times

Humans are the same everywhere, some are just better at hiding things. If you think Aussies are more honest than Thais just because they were raised with first-world standards, then I don’t know what to tell you.

[jfoldbar]

I may fit the definition of an old farang.

not fat and not bald. least thats something. hahahaha

[justincase]

not fat and not bald. least thats something. hahahaha

Let’s be realistic, most men who are old are fat and out of shape. They let themselves go and are not interested in pumping pussy to the best of their ability. It’s a whim choice and not a lifestyle decision. They go “I’m going punting today”, but didn’t think about maintaining their body to the best of their ability the weeks, months or years before. If they wanted to be a true sexual performer they’d exercise, not drink or smoke and watch what they eat.

In fact 90% of men of all ages are out of shape, maybe even more. Then they wonder why they can’t pull women or can’t perform in bed where it counts when paying for it.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Let’s be realistic, most men who are old are fat and out of shape. They let themselves go and are not interested in pumping pussy to the best of their ability. It’s a whim choice and not a lifestyle decision. They go “I’m going punting today”, but didn’t think about maintaining their body to the best of their ability the weeks, months or years before. If they wanted to be a true sexual performer they’d exercise, not drink or smoke and watch what they eat.

In fact 90% of men of all ages are out of shape, maybe even more. Then they wonder why they can’t pull women or can’t perform in bed where it counts when paying for it.
I agree. To perform well sexually, a man needs to be in his physical prime. I'm talking muscles & a 6-pack. Not some fat slob

I have been to Thailand just few months ago for SongKran. Thailand is full of these ugly ass Old Bald Fat Farangs

And they wonder why they can't pull women in their own countries. And still have to pay for it even in a Third World country like Thailand

[HiredGoon]

I agree. To perform well sexually, a man needs to be in his physical prime. I'm talking muscles & a 6-pack. Not some fat slob

I have been to Thailand just few months ago for SongKran. Thailand is full of these ugly ass Old Bald Fat Farangs

And they wonder why they can't pull women in their own countries. And still have to pay for it even in a Third World country like Thailand

Why would you want to go to a third world country full of starving people with no ethics and morals and who you despise and look down on?

[11Bravo]

Never said I didn’t have a loan agreement, maybe read properly before trying to flex your Google Law degree.
Well then, what's the problem? IMO, waving a paper and threatening her won't get you there. So it's lawyer and court time... I'd still suggest doing some math... one thing to have a court's judgment, another thing to collect. What assets does she have and where? On-shore or off; money wires leave a paper trail, hawala styles don't. Unfortunately, unlike some other countries, don't think Ozland has debtors' prisons... So take the high road, win the court case, and have her "exported", saving others - good for you.


Funny coming from a bloke with 2,000+ posts on a brothel forum acting like some enlightened guru while claiming he's "hardcore" .
Rather than "enlightened", I prefer "not gulible". Will also say that there but for the grace of God go I... I've seen some very intelligent people make some very stupid mistakes. I do try to learn from others and not repeat.


You talk about ego, but you’re still here trying to sound above it all while throwing passive jabs like anyone asked for your approval.
Again, rather than "above", I'd say "around", as in I've been around, know the score. I also understand it's a free forum, you have your tone, I have mine... Myself, I've never looked for approval on any forum... I just call 'em like I see 'em: you trusted someone (no shame there), you got played, by a pro... life in the big city. Do what you can; move on. Drama not required.


Me thinks you might be trying to play white knight to this scammer for a shot at some pussy. Hate to break it to you but simping in paragraphs won't pay off. She only sees the $$$ so stop wasting your time.
You are quite funny, the typical "simp" accusation when one doesn't join the lamentations. No idea and no interest in the lady. Xin loi; di di mau.

[11Bravo]

I agree. To perform well sexually, a man needs to be in his physical prime. I'm talking muscles & a 6-pack. Not some fat slob

I have been to Thailand just few months ago for SongKran. Thailand is full of these ugly ass Old Bald Fat Farangs

And they wonder why they can't pull women in their own countries. And still have to pay for it even in a Third World country like ThailandWhy would you want to go to a third world country full of starving people with no ethics and morals and who you despise and look down on?

Yea, any number of reasons to visit Thailand; for me, fixating on OBFF's is NOT one of them.

[HiredGoon]

Yea, any number of reasons to visit Thailand; for me, fixating on OBFF's is NOT one of them.

True. But I was talking about his feelings towards the main populace!

[11Bravo]

True. But I was talking about his feelings towards the main populace!

Yes, that IS understood, over and over and over... again.

Groucho Marx: "I wouldn't want to belong to a club that would have me as a member."

Or perhaps "you reap what you sow"...

[ChadThunderrcock]

Why would you want to go to a third world country full of starving people with no ethics and morals and who you despise and look down on?

Because I still like fornicating with beautiful & exotic Thai women

[11Bravo]

I see what you mean.

Its totally all about Nationality

Were raised in a Western country with Ethics & Morals. So you will treat these girls fair. But these Thai/Viet girls were raised in Third World countries where they are are not taught Ethics & Morals. They grew up starving & in poverty. And will try to get money to survive by any means necsesary. Even if if it means lying, cheating, scamming & stealing.
Ah, yes, those schemin', cheatin', lyin' inscrutable Orientals... totally devoid of Western morality... Those temples... all tourist traps... The Thai, Myanmar governments' dual prices systems, one for locals, one for farangs... such discrimination, ripping off those of the West...

Seems that, while some may have heard the names Confucius, the Buddha, they might not have read the books. Why bother? All that Western morality... Careful... woke alert, woke alert. Yea, but, perhaps if you ask the Native Americans, the Indigenous Australians, they might have a slight difference of opinion on Western morality, those ungrateful savages scorning the benefits of Western Civilization.

Like pmmeyourknee_ said, dishonesty can be found everywhere. It's the individual that matters.

Personally, I just follow the Golden Rule, found in many cultures, Western and Eastern.

But hey, for those discerning individuals, I'm willing to sell my rights to the North bound 3rd lane between 12:00-15:00 Harbor Bridge tolls for a cheap price.

[Double_Adapter]

Its totally all about Nationality

Were raised in a Western country with Ethics & Morals. So you will treat these girls fair. But these Thai/Viet girls were raised in Third World countries where they are are not taught Ethics & Morals. They grew up starving & in poverty. And will try to get money to survive by any means necsesary. Even if if it means lying, cheating, scamming & stealing.

So its not a level playing field. You are dealing with them with your Western mindset. They are dealing with you with how they were raised. So they will scam you then ghost you, and think nothing of it. And they have no remorse over it.



Ethics and Morals is only the tip of the iceberg! The other 3 key ingredients missing from the mix include Values, Principles and Behaviours. All 5 form part of cultural and societal norms. These 5 ingredients not only apply to third world countries but also, to developed and prosperous ones.

So in the punting mix this is how the 5 work together for a WL/ML:

Morals - what the WL/ML believes deep down. She might think "I’ll do hand jobs and blow jobs, but I draw the line at kissing, rimming and FS".
Maybe she's fine with light spanking, but anal’s off the table. Morals are her personal boundaries and beliefs; her inner do's and don’ts, her line in the sand.

Ethics - the house/shop rules includes both written and unwritten.
No stealing other WL customers. Respect booking times, respect customer privacy, regular checkups for STI/STDs, no stealthing, no stealing from unattended wallets or blackmailing customers etc. Ethics is the professional code of conduct that keeps the whole joint from descending into an all in gangbang c/w bukkake.

Values - what the WL/ML prioritises in her job. Maybe she values validation or perhaps her health and personal safety; she might value money, tips, expensive gifts or romantic getaways with SDs. She might value punters that have good personal hyegene, wash their junk thoroughly, no BO, no halitosis, are respectful, don't haggle for discounts, don't push the sex boundaries, don't demand for freebies and no man handling in the room.

Principles - her core sex work philosophy. Treat every client the same, don't date customers, don't fall in love with punters, no raw dog, don't go to work when sick or with STD/STIs, no Indians, no Koreans, asians only. Principles are her non-negotiables, the stuff she holds firmly to.

Behaviours - what the WL/ML says but what she actually does behind closed doors. She says she values boundaries, but if she keeps giving GFE extras, raw dog, rim jobs her behaviours are not in alignment with her values and principles.

The same 5 concepts can equally be applied to punters.

[HiredGoon]

Because I still like fornicating with beautiful & exotic Thai women

They are some lucky ladies.

[GoldfishMan]

Never "lend" money to any working girl that you patronize. Your only function to her is a source of money, and normally this function would require her to be fucked by you. Assuming she doesn't enjoy being fucked by you (let's be real, haha), once she can get your money without having to fuck you, what do you think will happen?
You can donate or give money if you want, but lending, advance payments, etc .... Basically expecting any sort of return "later" is foolish.

[justincase]

True. But I was talking about his feelings towards the main populace!

Maybe his feelings are derived from working in the industry?

[justincase]

Never "lend" money to any working girl that you patronize. Your only function to her is a source of money, and normally this function would require her to be fucked by you. Assuming she doesn't enjoy being fucked by you (let's be real, haha), once she can get your money without having to fuck you, what do you think will happen?
You can donate or give money if you want, but lending, advance payments, etc .... Basically expecting any sort of return "later" is foolish.

I’ve heard some whopper stories during sex worker dating and I’ve gone as far as checking some out and yes they do get themselves into precarious situations, now that I think of it two not one have told me of exceedingly large six figure debts. Of course there’s the host of smaller issues overseas that they happen to tell you about.

Let’s see, from just one WL, overseas expenses for her family…

I’ve paid for water filtration in the house. A flushable toilet system, UPS connected to a wifi modem with sim card backup so the family can always be contacted. Medical expenses, passports, new iPhone, new laptop, holidays, school tuition for her child who her mother cares for, $500A weekly sent OS for a year till I burnt the relationship, no doubt a lot of other things that I’ve forgotten but yes guys do get stitched up.

I gave all that freely and she cheated but then so do I so I’m not complaining, it was the cost of banging her. I’m not even stressed about it, it’s only because I was a control freak that I burnt the relationship and I’m putting my experiences online for you to read.

Roll forward and now nothing’s changed, no lessons were learnt and I still do the same because I can.

I see spending money on women as a transactional cost and some men have their hand in their pocket for their wife, the wife’s family, the girlfriend on the side, her family and the sex workers they punt and date plus their family(s)!

Now tell me, is your life as complicated as mine?

[asnabc]

Now tell me, is your life as complicated as mine?

I don't see your life glamorous at all and your motivations of going to the next level of having relationship's with WLs. Each to their own though, you can do what you want.

I pay, have sex with hot WL's, then leave - I don't take the transaction further. I'm also glad I had proper relationships with girls in my 20's before marriage, your life experiences does shape the way you are...

[charmingninjaman]

wow wtf :miao: I think I may know who you talking about if she was pregnant and name starting with A. We used to hang out at her apartment for drinking. She was always chasing money and gifts like using herelf for that and everyone knew what she was. One of my friends fucked her regularly even in front of the kid sometimes and she even got him Tom Ford perfume, probably with your money lol. We was planning to do her together but she disappeared for awhile shortly after. This was a few years ago.

If same person she is perfect example of what Viet say con cave

[jfoldbar]

wow wtf :miao: I think I may know who you talking about if she was pregnant and name starting with A. We used to hang out at her apartment for drinking. She was always chasing money and gifts like using herelf for that and everyone knew what she was. One of my friends fucked her regularly even in front of the kid sometimes and she even got him Tom Ford perfume, probably with your money lol. We was planning to do her together but she disappeared for awhile shortly after. This was a few years ago.

If same person she is perfect example of what Viet say con cave

man the suspense is killing me. a viet that starts with A who was regularly reviewed here? i couldnt think of any, so spent a good hour checking review history and cant find anyone.

[HiredGoon]

If same person she is perfect example of what Viet say con cave

Pretty sure that's not Vietnamese.

[ChadThunderrcock]

When are some guys going to learn to not give & lend money to these WL's

Just pay, respect them, f*ck then leave

But theres alot of very Low-Value men who want to take it further & get into relationships with these Gold-Diggers.

If you're old, bald & fat. Then work on that.
I'd say get a hair transplant. Diet, go to the gym and lose weight if you're fat. And brush up your game and social skills so you can court normal civilian non-WL women.

[KushKat]

Agree. My individual circumstances only, but I find punting expensive and can't understand how ppl would even loan money to these girls. They use fake names. Is that not a sign? Re hair transplant s, does anybody know if you can get them in Bali? Turkey too far for me....

[HorneyGollum]

Agree. My individual circumstances only, but I find punting expensive and can't understand how ppl would even loan money to these girls. They use fake names. Is that not a sign? Re hair transplant s, does anybody know if you can get them in Bali? Turkey too far for me....

Could always go for the Jason Statham look ��

[justincase]

Agree. My individual circumstances only, but I find punting expensive and can't understand how ppl would even loan money to these girls. They use fake names. Is that not a sign? Re hair transplant s, does anybody know if you can get them in Bali? Turkey too far for me....

On Temu you can get all sorts of wonderful things, false teeth, artificial limbs, toupees, pretty much anything and very very cheap, the teeth are starting at $2.50 !!!

The Temu toupee at $11.00 is great value so why go to Bali? With the money you save on airfare you could be the $60 dollar Temu man!

[justincase]

If you're old, bald & fat. Then work on that.
I'd say get a hair transplant. Diet, go to the gym and lose weight if you're fat. And brush up your game and social skills so you can court normal civilian non-WL women.

Do you honestly think any farang could be bothered with self improvement? Admit it, they’re a lost cause. They were stupid enough to let themselves go, so how are they going to be smart enough to better their situation?

All a farang thinks about is booze, cigarettes, food, rubbing his belly and when the urge takes him finding the cheapest punt. There is no focus on anything else except instant gratification.

[jfoldbar]

On Temu you can get all sorts of wonderful things, false teeth, artificial limbs, toupees, pretty much anything and very very cheap, the teeth are starting at $2.50 !!!

The Temu toupee at $11.00 is great value so why go to Bali? With the money you save on airfare you could be the $60 dollar Temu man!

yeah but we cant get a little asian honeypot to jump up and down on it.

[Double_Adapter]

You can get 1500 hair grafts (around 3000 hairs) for just under $5k, otherwise you can score fake hair sprays online for 50 bucks.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Do you honestly think any farang could be bothered with self improvement? Admit it, they’re a lost cause. They were stupid enough to let themselves go, so how are they going to be smart enough to better their situation?

All a farang thinks about is booze, cigarettes, food, rubbing his belly and when the urge takes him finding the cheapest punt. There is no focus on anything else except instant gratification.

I don't know if you have ever been to Thailand. I went there few months ago. Every Farang there looks the same. Old, Bald and Fat. Beer belly's and just on the booze all day.

And they complain that Western women don't want them. So they have to go to some poor Third World country. Then complains they they get used as an ATM machine by Thai women. Come on, if they're not improving themselves. What do they expect...

[manonamission]

The point of this post was to get intel for planning. That’s been achieved.

Can’t say who she is publicly (yet) - for obvious reasons. But promise that day will come.

People in the know (there are heaps) already knew. For everyone else, there’s more than enough in here to give you a pretty solid idea if you really want to know.

Let’s just say things are moving behind the scenes.

Can you pm me? Been trying to get in touch but can’t pm you

[justincase]

I don't see your life glamorous at all and your motivations of going to the next level of having relationship's with WLs. Each to their own though, you can do what you want.

I pay, have sex with hot WL's, then leave - I don't take the transaction further. I'm also glad I had proper relationships with girls in my 20's before marriage, your life experiences does shape the way you are...

Not saying it’s glamorous at all, it’s what I find interesting. My first twenty one girlfriends were blondes then I realised there are other flavours. At the time I thought blondes were the “be all and end all” of my life. Now I’d never go back to one as I see them as bland.

Anyone can have hot sex with a WL but having them as arm candy is just going that one step further. Whilst dating that Thai transsexual and taking her out there was non stop gawking by the public everywhere we went. For starters I’m twice her age and she is HOT 🔥 so everyone looked. That in itself was enough entertainment to justify the spend. Pretty much every man and every woman stared lol. It’s akin to driving a Lamborghini and everyone has to look at you at least once. So yeah I got off on it. The Lamborghini costs but when you’re driving it you don’t care…

[justincase]

I don't know if you have ever been to Thailand. I went there few months ago. Every Farang there looks the same. Old, Bald and Fat. Beer belly's and just on the booze all day.

And they complain that Western women don't want them. So they have to go to some poor Third World country. Then complains they they get used as an ATM machine by Thai women. Come on, if they're not improving themselves. What do they expect...

Yes I’ve been. Aussie farangs are generally smaller than the east European variety. Aussies tend to wear thongs and the others sandals paired with socks. There’s a few other subtle differences, weight being one, paleness of skin another. Sometimes the euro variety wear more bling, watch, chain and occasionally gold teeth.

[Icegodofhungary]

When are some guys going to learn to not give & lend money to these WL's

Just pay, respect them, f*ck then leave

But theres alot of very Low-Value men who want to take it further & get into relationships with these Gold-Diggers.

If you're old, bald & fat. Then work on that.
I'd say get a hair transplant. Diet, go to the gym and lose weight if you're fat. And brush up your game and social skills so you can court normal civilian non-WL women.

So Chad, considering that one of your previous personas on this forum was OldBaldFatFarang, do you identify as a Farang? Are you one of those fat fuck losers, or are you a better class of Farang? In the months since we saw the last of OldBaldFatFarang to the emergence of ChadThunderrcock, did you in face get a hair transplant, diet, go the gym, lose weight, brush up on your game and social skills and court some normal civilian non-WL women?

Is ChadThunderrcock in face the final form of OldBaldFatFarang? Or will the transformation continue? Who or what will we see next?

Or was OldBaldFarFarang all just part of the con, and you're really some young Brad Pitt in his prime / Chris Hemsworth / Leo in Titanic looking dude just laughing at all the old fat losers and the poor suckers who fall for the foul machinations of these immoral femme fatales?

[11Bravo]

I don't know if you have ever been to Thailand. I went there few months ago. Every Farang there looks the same. Old, Bald and Fat. Beer belly's and just on the booze all day.

And they complain that Western women don't want them. So they have to go to some poor Third World country. Then complains they they get used as an ATM machine by Thai women. Come on, if they're not improving themselves. What do they expect...
Yea, I've been, but I tend to avoid the farang ghettos, not the reason I'm there. But then, I don't have a farang fetish as some seem to have. Seems to me that's like saying Sydney is overrun with Indians (when you spend all your time in Harris Park...) Just other places to be.


Anyone can have hot sex with a WL but having them as arm candy is just going that one step further. Whilst dating that Thai transsexual and taking her out there was non stop gawking by the public everywhere we went. For starters I’m twice her age and she is HOT 🔥 so everyone looked. That in itself was enough entertainment to justify the spend. Pretty much every man and every woman stared lol. It’s akin to driving a Lamborghini and everyone has to look at you at least once. So yeah I got off on it. The Lamborghini costs but when you’re driving it you don’t care…
Whatever... myself, obviously, I don't care about others' approbations... Guess I'm just selfish. When I'm with someone, it's because of what she does for me, not the crowd.

[justincase]

Whatever... myself, obviously, I don't care about others' approbations... Guess I'm just selfish. When I'm with someone, it's because of what she does for me, not the crowd.

Some guys talk during a punt and don’t punt, I punt and don’t talk as it’s not why I’m there. So getting contact details is a very quick activity. Dating is outside of punting and obviously the experience is different, different objectives and different persona. I’m just making a statement about the experience(s) that unfolded during my time with her, if it hadn’t of happened I’d have never mentioned it.

[stefprou]

I may fit the definition of an old farang. But that doesn’t mean it’s fair game to rip me off.

I’m always happy to pay your worth or even more when it’s transactional and thats not an issue.

This isn’t about nationality, it’s about what kind of person you are.
Some were raised with morals. Others were just taught to open their legs & smile while they drain you. That’s not survival. That’s being a parasite in cheap heels.
can u pm me ? i had similar experience before and this is probably who ive been looking for

[LBW1959]

If there's one lesson from all of this, it's that sex work is a business. Would you lend the guy you buy tyres from several thousand dollars if he told you a sad story about his private life? No??? Then the same applies to the woman who's selling you sex.

[Urbumcrack]

Its NOT V Apple

Are you talking about Alice? As she is the only ML that is Viet and also had a baby that I know.

Can you please PM me if it is. There are some things I would like to ask. Thanks.

[Paison]

This is such a depressing story. You guys are a bunch of idiots for trusting an ML. Thats the problem with you people, just because a ML or WL offers you there phone number, doesnt mean she like you. All it means is they want to milk you for more visits/money or something else and its NOT love!
Use your brains and be more smarter.
Just pay them, play with them and leave it at that. There is nothing to be gained from our side and the benefit always tilt towards their side - they will make sure of that. They are in that game and have been with more men than you been to a public toilet. Parlours and brothels aint the place to get a friend or girlfriend.

[ColesBag]

Never forget mate, They only see your wallet. Everything else is just a side quest to get into it. Asking your contact, asking you to come, being nice and flirty to you, complimenting you, even dating you for a bit.

https://i.postimg.cc/xCkZF1VK/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-22-38-pm.png

This is just a snippet. I will touch more on this topic more deeply here, Stay tune! https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?143388-What-Japanese-sex-workers-think-of-punters/page10

Imagine a W/L & M/L only being with men for money. Why I'm as shocked as you are.

[pmmeyourknee_]

Imagine a W/L & M/L only being with men for money. Why I'm as shocked as you are.

Here is some more bro

https://i.postimg.cc/L4DMVxdd/Screenshot-2025-05-20-at-9-28-39-pm.png

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https://i.postimg.cc/fTYqKLSV/Screenshot-2025-07-05-at-3-35-19-pm.png

[pmmeyourknee_]

Simps these days have gone nuts man. Instead of spending their money on a civvie, they'd rather take a Japanese prostitute they can't converse with out of a brothel. The irony is that a regular civilian girl would probably show more appreciation. Why is this? Is Tinder not working anymore?

https://i.postimg.cc/Qxzw6P0z/Screenshot-2025-05-27-at-8-03-59-am.png

https://i.postimg.cc/7Yq0FYQG/Screenshot-2025-05-27-at-8-07-03-am.png

[HiredGoon]

Not saying it’s glamorous at all, it’s what I find interesting. My first twenty one girlfriends were blondes then I realised there are other flavours. At the time I thought blondes were the “be all and end all” of my life. Now I’d never go back to one as I see them as bland.

Anyone can have hot sex with a WL but having them as arm candy is just going that one step further. Whilst dating that Thai transsexual and taking her out there was non stop gawking by the public everywhere we went. For starters I’m twice her age and she is HOT 🔥 so everyone looked. That in itself was enough entertainment to justify the spend. Pretty much every man and every woman stared lol. It’s akin to driving a Lamborghini and everyone has to look at you at least once. So yeah I got off on it. The Lamborghini costs but when you’re driving it you don’t care…

Paying for people to look at you is not the flex you think it is.

[cometoIndia]

Simps these days have gone nuts man. Instead of spending their money on a civvie, they'd rather take a Japanese prostitute they can't converse with out of a brothel. The irony is that a regular civilian girl would probably show more appreciation. Why is this? Is Tinder not working anymore?

https://i.postimg.cc/Qxzw6P0z/Screenshot-2025-05-27-at-8-03-59-am.png

https://i.postimg.cc/7Yq0FYQG/Screenshot-2025-05-27-at-8-07-03-am.png


That is brutal hahaha. I haven't seen any J girl again for a while since my last dud with one of them, not that many of them want to see me either. This just confirmed my bias. My Japanese mate did tell me that a lot of Japanese are only nice on the outside, but deep down, they are all bullies. HIS words, not mine. Don't quote me on this. I know some of them are genuinly nice, or at least I hope so. I think they are the hardest to read... With Aussies, you can tell if someone's a cunt or not within 5 secs.

[Paison]

That is brutal hahaha. I haven't seen any J girl again for a while since my last dud with one of them, not that many of them want to see me either. This just confirmed my bias. My Japanese mate did tell me that a lot of Japanese are only nice on the outside, but deep down, they are all bullies. HIS words, not mine. Don't quote me on this. I know some of them are genuinly nice, or at least I hope so. I think they are the hardest to read... With Aussies, you can tell if someone's a cunt or not within 5 secs.

This is pretty common across most the women in the industry regardless of race. Most have a list of clients or ex clients they use for money and attention.
A chinese WL I used to see in Ginza a couole years ago recently reached out to me randomly on Wechat after no contact for more than a year.
She did it while sitting across from her now husband at a restaurant 🤣 - one we previously went to together. I said I would love to see how she looks now so she sneaked a selfie of herself to me while her husband went to the toilet.
And I'm on my way now to have a coffee with her today after she drops her kid to the in laws lol. Hopefully back to mine after.

You can play with fire. Just don't be stupid and think you are actually special to her and get burnt.
After fucking them for awhile, just move onto the next one or buy them a handbag or a small lumpsum payment as a gift if you not sick of it yet want to keep getting it. Thats the only way to play it.

[justincase]

What’s the difference between a punter who plays around and a prostitute who plays around? The head count.

[BornHoNam]

What is your largest amount you lost I have been scammed as well.

[Becareful]

For japanese its usually the ones that acts really happy and giggly but once you leave she will feel digusted. The stories they told me how they manipluate customers where they dont even know they got scammed is kinda scary...

[11Bravo]

This is such a depressing story. You guys are a bunch of idiots for trusting an ML. Thats the problem with you people, just because a ML or WL offers you there phone number, doesnt mean she like you. All it means is they want to milk you for more visits/money or something else and its NOT love!
Use your brains and be more smarter.
Just pay them, play with them and leave it at that. There is nothing to be gained from our side and the benefit always tilt towards their side - they will make sure of that. They are in that game and have been with more men than you been to a public toilet. Parlours and brothels aint the place to get a friend or girlfriend.

Case 1:
Have I ever loaned a WG money? Yes, she was a regular and had a compelling reason which I believed as I knew her. I loaned her $2K AUD.
Did she pay it back? She wanted to work it off weekly but I told her she needed a cash flow, so just save and pay it back lump sum. She did, New Year's Eve (clean slate for the New Year, typical).

Case 2:
Have I ever had a civilian ask me for a loan? Yes, store clerk who I chatted with every time while checking out. Said she'd be my special friend if I'd just loan her $5K. Declined. No chatting for the following month, then she was gone (home).


Moral of the stories:
1. Use some common sense (as Paison says, seems to be sorely lacking in some).

2. Don't loan money you can't afford to lose to anyone.

3. With the providers, as I've often said, you treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice (and chances are you'll be viewed as an ATM). Treat her like a person, she'll be a person, just like any other person (maybe Case 1, maybe Case 2; see Moral #1).

Myself, I go by character, not by profession. YMMV.

[ChadThunderrcock]

3. With the providers, as I've often said, you treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice (and chances are you'll be viewed as an ATM). Treat her like a person, she'll be a person, just like any other person (maybe Case 1, maybe Case 2; see Moral #1).

Myself, I go by character, not by profession. YMMV.

Wrong. No matter how nice & respectful you treat these girls, they will always see you as an ATM.

The nicer you treat them, the more they see this as weakness and the more she realizes you are a sucker she can milk money out of.

Just look at all those Old Bald Fat Farangs who lost their entire life savings to some Thai Bargirl.

Moral of the story, unless you are super handsome like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth, these sex workers will never truly genuinely like you. These girls are young & hot, do you really think they will fall in love with some Middle Class Average Ass Old Bald Fat Farang....

[jedibear]

Wrong. No matter how nice & respectful you treat these girls, they will always see you as an ATM.

The nicer you treat them, the more they see this as weakness and the more she realizes you are a sucker she can milk money out of

Just look at all those Old Bald Fat Farangs who lost their entire life savings to some Thai Bargirl

Moral of the story, unless you are super handsome like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth, these sex workers will never truly genuinely like you. These girls are young & hot, do you really thing they will fall in love with some Middle Class average ass Old Bald Fat Farang....Yeah whatever he said!

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[Paison]

Wrong. No matter how nice & respectful you treat these girls, they will always see you as an ATM.

The nicer you treat them, the more they see this as weakness and the more she realizes you are a sucker she can milk money out of.

Just look at all those Old Bald Fat Farangs who lost their entire life savings to some Thai Bargirl.

Moral of the story, unless you are super handsome like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth, these sex workers will never truly genuinely like you. These girls are young & hot, do you really think they will fall in love with some Middle Class Average Ass Old Bald Fat Farang....

Exactly! Thats the thing, the more nicer you are to these ML and WL, the more you get milked.
Not saying you have to be an asshole, you can still treat them normal but just need to know you aren't dealing with nornal civilians here. These women have served hundreds of men, most are so damaged that the only thing left for them is to keep up with appearances like designer items and handbags. They can live without men but just need attention and money to keep the fascade going or their fragile ego falls apart.

On another note, got lucky with the ex Chinese WL today. She didnt look as good as what her filtered Wechat pics made her out to be, definitely run down from having a child but still a good fuck regardless and all it cost me was a convo and lunch at a cafe - she actually got her husband to pick her up after I fucked her lol

[pmmeyourknee_]

For japanese its usually the ones that acts really happy and giggly but once you leave she will feel digusted. The stories they told me how they manipluate customers where they dont even know they got scammed is kinda scary...

So true. Once you see how they actually are, it really changes how you look at them. The more friendly, bubbly, and giggly they act, the more it turns me off. No kidding. Funny how their hostess tactics backfire on me now

[pmmeyourknee_]

Exactly! Thats the thing, the more nicer you are to these ML and WL, the more you get milked.
Not saying you have to be an asshole, you can still treat them normal but just need to know you aren't dealing with nornal civilians here. These women have served hundreds of men, most are so damaged that the only thing left for them is to keep up with appearances like designer items and handbags. They can live without men but just need attention and money to keep the fascade going or their fragile ego falls apart.

On another note, got lucky with the ex Chinese WL today. She didnt look as good as what her filtered Wechat pics made her out to be, definitely run down from having a child but still a good fuck regardless and all it cost me was a convo and lunch at a cafe - she actually got her husband to pick her up after I fucked her lol

Truer words have never been spoken. This forum could use more of your wisdom.
Also what a chad, massive respect :shout:

[HiredGoon]

Exactly! Thats the thing, the more nicer you are to these ML and WL, the more you get milked.
Not saying you have to be an asshole, you can still treat them normal but just need to know you aren't dealing with nornal civilians here. These women have served hundreds of men, most are so damaged that the only thing left for them is to keep up with appearances like designer items and handbags. They can live without men but just need attention and money to keep the fascade going or their fragile ego falls apart.

On another note, got lucky with the ex Chinese WL today. She didnt look as good as what her filtered Wechat pics made her out to be, definitely run down from having a child but still a good fuck regardless and all it cost me was a convo and lunch at a cafe - she actually got her husband to pick her up after I fucked her lol

So you're happy to keep "damaging" these girls for your personal pleasure?

[Paison]

So you're happy to keep "damaging" these girls for your personal pleasure?

It’s not my fault they’re damaged, thats the path they chosen. If they’re selling sex and calling it empowerment, own it - don’t blame the client.

Most of them get so jaded from pleasing that many men with their bodies, they start calling themselves 'independent' - while living off men’s money. Check any OnlyFans or escort private IG, it’s always in the bio

It’s like the ex WL I saw yesterday, kept saying husband doesn't take good care of her - all the while he is working he's ass off to support her and the kid.
While she randomly reaches out to her ex clients like me - chasing the thrill and attention. While I just blow smoke up her ass telling her she is still as beautiful as ever and a strong mother. Its all a game - just dont be the one who gets played.

Real men see through the fasçade, recognize the pattern, and walk away without looking back while simps hang around throwing money at broken pussy.

For all the men in this thread who got ripped. Just move on and be smarter next time.

[HiredGoon]

It’s not my fault they’re damaged, thats the path they chosen. If they’re selling sex and calling it empowerment, own it - don’t blame the client.

Most of them get so jaded from pleasing that many men with their bodies, they start calling themselves 'independent' - while living off men’s money. Check any OnlyFans or escort private IG, it’s always in the bio

It’s like the ex WL I saw yesterday, kept saying husband doesn't take good care of her - all the while he is working he's ass off to support her and the kid.
While she randomly reaches out to her ex clients like me - chasing the thrill and attention. While I just blow smoke up her ass telling her she is still as beautiful as ever and a strong mother. Its all a game - just dont be the one who gets played.

Real men see through the fasçade, recognize the pattern, and walk away without looking back while simps hang around throwing money at broken pussy.

For all the men in this thread who got ripped. Just move on and be smarter next time.

Yep you sound like a "real man" if that means not giving a shit about people. But what the hell is a fascade?

[Meng]

It’s not my fault they’re damaged, thats the path they chosen. If they’re selling sex and calling it empowerment, own it - don’t blame the client.

Most of them get so jaded from pleasing that many men with their bodies, they start calling themselves 'independent' - while living off men’s money. Check any OnlyFans or escort private IG, it’s always in the bio

It’s like the ex WL I saw yesterday, kept saying husband doesn't take good care of her - all the while he is working he's ass off to support her and the kid.
While she randomly reaches out to her ex clients like me - chasing the thrill and attention. While I just blow smoke up her ass telling her she is still as beautiful as ever and a strong mother. Its all a game - just dont be the one who gets played.

Real men see through the fasçade, recognize the pattern, and walk away without looking back while simps hang around throwing money at broken pussy.

For all the men in this thread who got ripped. Just move on and be smarter next time.

You should of let the husband know. It's fucked up. He should be given a chance to leave her.

[HiredGoon]

Most of them get so jaded from pleasing that many men with their bodies, they start calling themselves 'independent' - while living off men’s money. Check any OnlyFans or escort private IG, it’s always in the bio


Whose money do you live off?

[ChadThunderrcock]

Exactly! Thats the thing, the more nicer you are to these ML and WL, the more you get milked.
Not saying you have to be an asshole, you can still treat them normal but just need to know you aren't dealing with nornal civilians here. These women have served hundreds of men, most are so damaged that the only thing left for them is to keep up with appearances like designer items and handbags. They can live without men but just need attention and money to keep the fascade going or their fragile ego falls apart.

On another note, got lucky with the ex Chinese WL today. She didnt look as good as what her filtered Wechat pics made her out to be, definitely run down from having a child but still a good fuck regardless and all it cost me was a convo and lunch at a cafe - she actually got her husband to pick her up after I fucked her lol

Finally theres some people on here who are sane and actually see the girls for how they really are.

Rather than simping, white knighting & defending these "Princesses" like some of the Low-Value Men on here.

[ChadThunderrcock]

Simps these days have gone nuts man. Instead of spending their money on a civvie, they'd rather take a Japanese prostitute they can't converse with out of a brothel. The irony is that a regular civilian girl would probably show more appreciation. Why is this? Is Tinder not working anymore?

https://i.postimg.cc/Qxzw6P0z/Screenshot-2025-05-27-at-8-03-59-am.png

https://i.postimg.cc/7Yq0FYQG/Screenshot-2025-05-27-at-8-07-03-am.png

This is what I keep telling you all. No matter how much money you have or expensive gifts you give her, if you are ugly and not handsome, she will not appreciate you or anything you do for her.

For these girls to genuinely like you for who you are, you have to be good looking & handsome like Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jackson Wang, SuperJunior Siwon, Daniel Henney or BTS Jimin.

Heck, these girls would even sleep with a broke guy for free if he was hot and good looking.

Whoever thinks having money will do you any favour is delusional and just compensating for what they lack in looks. All you are doing is marking yourself as an ATM machine to be used. While she gives your money to the handsome Japanese host she keeps going back to.

[pmmeyourknee_]

It’s not my fault they’re damaged, thats the path they chosen. If they’re selling sex and calling it empowerment, own it - don’t blame the client.

Most of them get so jaded from pleasing that many men with their bodies, they start calling themselves 'independent' - while living off men’s money. Check any OnlyFans or escort private IG, it’s always in the bio

It’s like the ex WL I saw yesterday, kept saying husband doesn't take good care of her - all the while he is working he's ass off to support her and the kid.
While she randomly reaches out to her ex clients like me - chasing the thrill and attention. While I just blow smoke up her ass telling her she is still as beautiful as ever and a strong mother. Its all a game - just dont be the one who gets played.

Real men see through the fasçade, recognize the pattern, and walk away without looking back while simps hang around throwing money at broken pussy.

For all the men in this thread who got ripped. Just move on and be smarter next time.

Holy shit another wisdom dropped. Appreciate your lessons here.
I agree that it's honestly pathetic how they pretend they don't need men, look down on us, while in reality, we are the ones feeding them LOL. Not other men they idolise, but us punters. We are their source of income.
They need us more than we need them right? If we all stop punting, we would still be fine with jerking off or free hookups, but what are they going to eat? If anything they should worship us, not the other way around.

[justincase]

Myself, I go by character, not by profession. YMMV.

Let’s face when it comes to women the “lil’ bro” makes a lot of decisions till you get burned.

Thinking about your post above even that ML I started a thread about (the one I dated) got shafted by one of her ML friends, they lend money and just don’t get it back. They think “oh she’s making money, she doesn’t need it”, but they all seem to have family OS and it’s a never ending drain on their finances. It’s even stressful for them. She’d tell me.

Look, quite a lot of the time I’d even contribute to various families overseas and I think I’ve mentioned it before. But unless you see a long term plan with a WL or ML it’s just pissing your money into the wind. I give $$$ to homeless people but the sad thing is that they’re always wanting and it never stops.

Once you start punting and if you like the flavour dating then are you going to settle down with just one? If so then can you trust her to be truthful, not even loyal as I’m not into loyalty though money can buy a degree of loyalty but being truthful is important. If so then you could give without hesitation but where do you find a truthful person?

WL’s and MLs by profession lie, lie to the punter, even simple lies such as flattery to retain a customer.

The guys on here that complain about losing a few grand so what? After a while it’s just a distant memory. Move on and make more money, making money is priority number one as it gives you the freedom to punt and not bitch about it.

[Paison]

You should of let the husband know. It's fucked up. He should be given a chance to leave her.

No way I will be getting involved in their family mess.
I feel bad for the guy. She sent me couple messages to ask if I want to visit her this week but I likely wont be responding. Just the thought of some other man's kid being there makes me pretty disgusted tbh and full turned me off.
She'll likely block me soon like she does every once in awhile, only to come back again at a later date like she always does.
Time to go back to brothels for me to clear my head.
Being around people like this can get pretty depressing - even though the free sex is always tempting 🤣

[LookingForTheOne]

Can you pm me? Been trying to get in touch but can’t pm you. I am currently in this situation.

[charmingninjaman]

Can you pm me? Been trying to get in touch but can’t pm you. I am currently in this situation.

Why you give the money to her? She not pretty, just short, fat also a baby. This is unbelievable lol

[forgotmyumbrella]

There really should be a mandatory lesson on how not to be a simp before you're allowed to punt, like a driver's licence.

[HiredGoon]

There really should be a mandatory lesson on how not to be a simp before you're allowed to punt, like a driver's licence.

And if you use the word "simp" you fail the test.

[Chancharlie]

Can you pm me? Been trying to get in touch but can’t pm you. I am currently in this situation.

In this situation with the same ML? This is crazy

[Paison]

And if you use the word "simp" you fail the test.

Always find it funny how ho's always try to reframe their simps simply as "nice guys" or "friends" 🤣. Anything but the word simp while they suck them dry lol

[justincase]

In the overall scheme of things, HAVE any punters lived off a WL or ML? There must be some working woman somewhere who is supporting an old bald fat farang of any nationality, yes?

If so I’d like to find out how he got into that arrangement as it’d make interesting reading.

I know about some of the partners of various working women and quite frankly I don’t see what the attraction is. It isn’t sex I can assure you of that…

[Paison]

Why you give the money to her? She not pretty, just short, fat also a baby. This is unbelievable lol

Funny you say that - because in my experience, it’s the ugly looking ones who are the real manipulators. They can’t rely on looks, so they overcompensate with fake sweetness and full-blown GFE to trap suckers wearing different masks. Then they milk them for cash and ego boosts just to feel relevant completely losing their sense of self so I'm not that surprised the ML that ripped all these guys here off was ugly😅

Meanwhile, the really attractive model-tier MLs and WLs tend to set firmer boundaries, no pussy touching, no kissing etc - they get clients based on looks alone and often transition out of the industry more smoothly as they sold SOME but not ALL their soul.

Uglier ones need to keep a rotation of men even after they transition out the industry as they are so damaged they need simps to continually give them attention or they fall apart and one man is never enough no matter how kind, rich or good looking you are.

[Paison]

I asked chat for a list of things Sex workers would say to collect simps without accountability (some of this probably sounds familiar to you all 🤣)-

Here’s a refined set of manipulative lines in the voice of a sex worker who’s not fluent in english, but emotionally sharp - someone who plays the part well, and uses vulnerability, charm to disarm, entice, and control:

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💬 Lines from a Manipulative, Non-Native English Speaking Sex Worker


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🌶️ Blurring Work and Emotion

“I don’t meet clients outside… if I do that, it mean more than just work.”

“With you, is different. It not feel like just customer.”

“I try keep feelings out… but you, you make it hard.”

“Sometimes I forget this is job when I talk with you.”



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💎 Faux Vulnerability

“I not good at trusting. But I feel safe when is you.”

“You see me… not like most. That scare me little.”

“You make me feel like real woman, not just body.”

“I don’t tell this to others. Only you.”

“I don’t see anyone else right now.. Only you.”





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💰 Soft Financial Guilt

“I feel stupid to ask… but today very hard. I don’t want to bother you.”

“I try be strong always… but rent come and now I’m stuck.”

“You help me last time… it stay in my heart.”

“I not need much… just little help to breathe again.”

“I don’t mean to bother you and if you can't it ok..... But my grandma/mum/auntie is very sick now.”

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🧲 Emotional Push-Pull

“Sometimes I go quiet when I feel too much. Don’t be mad.”

“I don’t want lose you… but I also don’t want make you tired of me.”

“If I pull away… is because I care too much, not too little.”

“You give me peace… but I scared to ask you stay.”

“I still want you… but I also want to feel peace”

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🔥 Subtle Tease, Just Out of Reach

“If I was only yours… you not sleep at night.”

“You see what I show… but there more I never show client.”

“You touch my mind, not only body. That is more dangerous.”

“I wish I can break rules for you. But I try to be smart.”

“Thank you for always being there for me.... when things settle down with my life lets catch up for coffee.”

[ChadThunderrcock]

There really should be a mandatory lesson on how not to be a simp before you're allowed to punt, like a driver's licence.

Yes ! There should be a pre-education mandatory course for these Simps before they are allowed to enter shops to punt.

The same way major Airlines should also include in-flight mandatory educational videos like those Flight safety videos before take-off for Old Bald Fat Farangs on "How not to lose everything to a Thai Bargirl" before they land in Bangkok.

[HiredGoon]

Yes ! There should be a pre-education mandatory course for these Simps before they are allowed to enter shops to punt.

The same way major Airlines should also include in-flight mandatory educational videos like those Flight safety videos before take-off for Old Bald Fat Farangs on "How not to lose everything to a Thai Bargirl" before they land in Bangkok.

You should get a mandatory kick in the nuts every time you say “old bald fat farang”

[puntmewarrior]

The point of this post was to get intel for planning. That’s been achieved.

Can’t say who she is publicly (yet) - for obvious reasons. But promise that day will come.

People in the know (there are heaps) already knew. For everyone else, there’s more than enough in here to give you a pretty solid idea if you really want to know.

Let’s just say things are moving behind the scenes.


Is she short and has tattoo on her wrist?
Can you please PM me if it is? I think she is do the same thing to me recently.

[11Bravo]

Thinking about your post above even that ML I started a thread about (the one I dated) got shafted by one of her ML friends, they lend money and just don’t get it back. They think “oh she’s making money, she doesn’t need it”, but they all seem to have family OS and it’s a never ending drain on their finances. It’s even stressful for them. She’d tell me.
In my demographics, that's why they're here. Expats...


Look, quite a lot of the time I’d even contribute to various families overseas and I think I’ve mentioned it before. But unless you see a long term plan with a WL or ML it’s just pissing your money into the wind.
Perspective. Like any gift, you do it to make yourself feel good.


If so then can you trust her to be truthful, not even loyal as I’m not into loyalty though money can buy a degree of loyalty but being truthful is important.Buying loyalty with money? That's called hiring, and she's an employee. If the business goes south, employees leave. Truthful? That goes along with respect.


WL’s and MLs by profession lie, lie to the punter, even simple lies such as flattery to retain a customer.
You mean when she tells me, "You hansom man", that's a lie? Hard to believe... Both parties SHOULD know the score. It's the little white lies that grease life. Thing to do is have fun with it. For the serious stuff... most of it isn't the other person's business. But then, I'm not there looking for a partner, just a business transaction with a bit of fun. See "sanook".


Move on and make more money, making money is priority number one as it gives you the freedom to punt and not bitch about it.
Money's important, but, WADR, it doesn't seem to have brought you happiness. Or maybe it has.

[11Bravo]

The providers are certainly very astute, they have to be, if for no other reason than safety. They obviously recognize me as an experienced punter who knows the score, know I'm not a mark. Or perhaps, because of my age, they figure it's not worth the time and effort to try and attach my assets. Or perhaps it's because Asians respect their elders (though it is a bit deflating when she uses that specific word). Regardless, I don't have to gear up before entering, afraid that the schemin' Jezebel might hypnotize, mesmerize, tranquilize me with her deadly eyes, siren's voice. Common sense works for me.

Girls see me as much as an ATM as my barber does: I'm there for a service, lighten my load, shoot the shit, for the agreed upon price. I don't worry that my barber is trying to shortchange me on the back, going to ask me for extra; I respect him, he respects me. Same in any shop. And I certainly have nothing to prove as to my masculinity.

It's why I recommend one doesn't start punting until he has had some life experience, can differentiate between sex and a relationship.

Perhaps different demographics. The girls I know, she might be buying some designer bags, but it's not for her ego. It's for gifts for family, showing respect, when she goes home. Or to sell, money to be made in that. Damaging? WITHOUT a doubt. But for certain countries the sacrifices made to support family (WTF !?! No CentreLink, no free education, you have to pay for medical, pharmaceuticals?) Not a simp, not a white knight, not defending; just sayin... 20,000 baht, 6,000 RMB doesn't go too far if it's not just you... Asian FAMILY.

Like I'd say when asked why I was in-country: "Same same you, come here, make money, go home." Common bond, mutual respect. Works for me, YMMV.

[Paison]

The providers are certainly very astute, they have to be, if for no other reason than safety. They obviously recognize me as an experienced punter who knows the score, know I'm not a mark. Or perhaps, because of my age, they figure it's not worth the time and effort to try and attach my assets. Or perhaps it's because Asians respect their elders (though it is a bit deflating when she uses that specific word). Regardless, I don't have to gear up before entering, afraid that the schemin' Jezebel might hypnotize, mesmerize, tranquilize me with her deadly eyes, siren's voice. Common sense works for me.

Girls see me as much as an ATM as my barber does: I'm there for a service, lighten my load, shoot the shit, for the agreed upon price. I don't worry that my barber is trying to shortchange me on the back, going to ask me for extra; I respect him, he respects me. Same in any shop. And I certainly have nothing to prove as to my masculinity.

It's why I recommend one doesn't start punting until he has had some life experience, can differentiate between sex and a relationship.

Perhaps different demographics. The girls I know, she might be buying some designer bags, but it's not for her ego. It's for gifts for family, showing respect, when she goes home. Or to sell, money to be made in that. Damaging? WITHOUT a doubt. But for certain countries the sacrifices made to support family (WTF !?! No CentreLink, no free education, you have to pay for medical, pharmaceuticals?) Not a simp, not a white knight, not defending; just sayin... 20,000 baht, 6,000 RMB doesn't go too far if it's not just you... Asian FAMILY.

Like I'd say when asked why I was in-country: "Same same you, come here, make money, go home." Common bond, mutual respect. Works for me, YMMV.

No one’s saying women can’t choose to sell their bodies for money - and you’re right, sometimes it’s out of necessity, like supporting their families or other personal reasons. But don’t turn around and blame the client — that’s like a drug dealer blaming the addicts when they get caught 🤣

And like we see with a lot of WLs and MLs, the woman in this thread has clearly gone out of her way to lie and manipulate weak vulnerable men. . A parasite feeding off desperation.

[Punt2Win]

The providers are certainly very astute, they have to be, if for no other reason than safety. They obviously recognize me as an experienced punter who knows the score, know I'm not a mark. Or perhaps, because of my age, they figure it's not worth the time and effort to try and attach my assets. Or perhaps it's because Asians respect their elders (though it is a bit deflating when she uses that specific word). Regardless, I don't have to gear up before entering, afraid that the schemin' Jezebel might hypnotize, mesmerize, tranquilize me with her deadly eyes, siren's voice. Common sense works for me.

Girls see me as much as an ATM as my barber does: I'm there for a service, lighten my load, shoot the shit, for the agreed upon price. I don't worry that my barber is trying to shortchange me on the back, going to ask me for extra; I respect him, he respects me. Same in any shop. And I certainly have nothing to prove as to my masculinity.

It's why I recommend one doesn't start punting until he has had some life experience, can differentiate between sex and a relationship.

Perhaps different demographics. The girls I know, she might be buying some designer bags, but it's not for her ego. It's for gifts for family, showing respect, when she goes home. Or to sell, money to be made in that. Damaging? WITHOUT a doubt. But for certain countries the sacrifices made to support family (WTF !?! No CentreLink, no free education, you have to pay for medical, pharmaceuticals?) Not a simp, not a white knight, not defending; just sayin... 20,000 baht, 6,000 RMB doesn't go too far if it's not just you... Asian FAMILY.

Like I'd say when asked why I was in-country: "Same same you, come here, make money, go home." Common bond, mutual respect. Works for me, YMMV.


You fall for the "family" lines? The bags and gold jewellery get sold at the pawn broker and spent on her boyfriend. Thank you kindly for your donation.

[justincase]

Money's important, but, WADR, it doesn't seem to have brought you happiness. Or maybe it has.

Happiness is a mindset.

Knowing you don’t need anyone or anything to be happy.

I may walk around with money in my pocket but I just can’t be bothered punting, just can’t be bothered dating, just can’t be bothered socialising. Then other days its the opposite and it’s full steam ahead, fill my day to day with everything.

Yes it’s good to have money… just in case.

Some days it’s stay in bed and sleep, other days it’s work double or triple what everyone else does. Knowing that it’s entirely up to me to make my own choices and not be controlled by anyone or anything.

How many people have freedom to do what they want?

Most are programmed into a job, hell they even go to university for four or five years to program themselves into a job. Then that’s it, that’s them that’s their destiny. They find a level of security and don’t deviate out of that comfort zone.

To each their own poison.