For those who dabble with ladyboys …

[blackm0nk]

G’day fellas..

Just wanting to know what you consider your sexuality to be if you’re generally only with women but also attracted to ladyboys aka chicks with dicks from time to time but would never go that way with a guy who is clearly a guy … if that makes sense?

Cheers

[AllInJimmy]

Does it matter? Do you need a certain definition of your sexuality?

[blackm0nk]

Does it matter? Do you need a certain definition of your sexuality?

Not necessarily, just curious as I wouldn’t know what to say about myself lol.

[ricki]

G’day fellas..

Just wanting to know what you consider your sexuality to be if you’re generally only with women but also attracted to ladyboys aka chicks with dicks from time to time but would never go that way with a guy who is clearly a guy … if that makes sense?

Cheers

I mean it shouldn't matter that much if you are not at the receiving end but hey that's just me though.

[booty_duty]

I love eating and fucking pussy as much as the next guy, but I also don't mind occasionally sucking a ladyboy cock, does that make me gay?

Label me whatever you will but I still consider myself closer to the "straight" end of the spectrum as I'm not attracted to "regular" males.

Like I've said previously:

"Sexuality is not black and white, it's not gay or straight, there's a massive grey area where everyone fits into.

There's no need to overthink things, just try everything out and whatever floats you boat, enjoy it and DGAF about other people's opinions"

[blackm0nk]

I love eating and fucking pussy as much as the next guy, but I also don't mind occasionally sucking a ladyboy cock, does that make me gay?

Label me whatever you will but I still consider myself closer to the "straight" end of the spectrum as I'm not attracted to "regular" males.

Like I've said previously:

"Sexuality is not black and white, it's not gay or straight, there's a massive grey area where everyone fits into.

There's no need to overthink things, just try everything out and whatever floats you boat, enjoy it and DGAF about other people's opinions"


Well said mate, I like how you think. Thanks for your input.

[Roydemeo]

I also don't mind occasionally sucking a ladyboy cock, does that make me gay?
[/I]

Yes it does make you gay

[secret0]

G’day fellas..

Just wanting to know what you consider your sexuality to be if you’re generally only with women but also attracted to ladyboys aka chicks with dicks from time to time but would never go that way with a guy who is clearly a guy … if that makes sense?

Cheers

Gynephilia is the term you could use if you want to be specific - attracted to women/femininity.
So women and transwomen/ladyboys who present as female.

[booty_duty]

Yes it does make you gay

Thanks for you answer, but it was a rhetorical question.

Nonetheless, I'm glad I can sleep at night now knowing the fact that someone I don't know or have never met has passed judgement on my sexuality and placed a label on it.

Cheers

[blackm0nk]

Gynephilia is the term you could use if you want to be specific - attracted to women/femininity.
So women and transwomen/ladyboys who present as female.

Ah thanks, I hadn’t heard of that before.

[Ziggurat]

No matter how it is dressed up a cock and balls are a cock and balls.

[jimjamm]

this is relevant
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[Macktogo90]

I love eating and fucking pussy as much as the next guy, but I also don't mind occasionally sucking a ladyboy cock, does that make me gay?
[/I]

Why put labels on it? If you enjoy it then you enjoy it :)

[justincase]

Generally you would pay more to punt a LB?

[Rustyman1980]

I think you're pretty much gay / bi when you suck get fucked or fuck a person with a penis.

But so what, who cares the label if you're cool do it, but you're no longer full heterosexual any longer. Facts

[MindTheGap]

Thanks for you answer, but it was a rhetorical question.

Nonetheless, I'm glad I can sleep at night now knowing the fact that someone I don't know or have never met has passed judgement on my sexuality and placed a label on it.

Cheers

One thing that I wouldn’t count on is mature feedback regarding sexuality on this forum. Just look at the regular racist, sexist outpourings.

I pass no judgement on your sexuality - I think it’s actually great that you are so open minded and you are comfortable exploring yourself and others.

It’s not just narrow minded, it’s also factually incorrect to describe someone who mainly sleeps with women, and occasionally has sex with someone trans, as gay.

Considering how progressed our society is in so many ways, it’s extraordinary how regressive Australia is in relation to sex.

[blackm0nk]

One thing that I wouldn’t count on is mature feedback regarding sexuality on this forum. Just look at the regular racist, sexist outpourings.

I pass no judgement on your sexuality - I think it’s actually great that you are so open minded and you are comfortable exploring yourself and others.

It’s not just narrow minded, it’s also factually incorrect to describe someone who mainly sleeps with women, and occasionally has sex with someone trans, as gay.

Considering how progressed our society is in so many ways, it’s extraordinary how regressive Australia is in relation to sex.

Yeah I knew it was risky posting such a question, I tried to keep to those I actually wanted to hear from by using the question in the title. I appreciate all the responses though.

[Ziggurat]

It’s not just narrow minded, it’s also factually incorrect to describe someone who mainly sleeps with women, and occasionally has sex with someone trans, as gay.
Nah, nothing gay about worshipping cocks. :grimace2:

[andrewv]

It's funny when many of the critical analysts above do go to a shop in Leichhart and enjoy having a woman shove dildos up their asses. Yet, that is not "gay".

[grindinghard]

I love eating and fucking pussy as much as the next guy, but I also don't mind occasionally sucking a ladyboy cock, does that make me gay?

[/I]

The answer to your question is yes.

[booty_duty]

The answer to your question is yes.

Thanks for the validation.

I was so uncertain, just as I am so uncertain of the maturity levels of some of the people on here, but you've also managed to confirm my suspicions on both fronts.

[justincase]

The guys that punt LBs should try dating them.

[andrewv]

The guys that punt LBs should try dating them, ask them out. It’s a next level endorphine rush.

Men very often date the ladyboys in Thailand and the Philippines. Go and have a look.

[justincase]

There’s a higher percentage of LB in Thailand so it’d be far easier to date one.

[Hedonisticfun]

G’day fellas..

Just wanting to know what you consider your sexuality to be if you’re generally only with women but also attracted to ladyboys aka chicks with dicks from time to time but would never go that way with a guy who is clearly a guy … if that makes sense?

Cheers

Consider myself straight and have dabbled with chicks with dicks .. I just consider them females with permanent strap-ons. Tried oral but not my forte , so stuck to anal give and take (only fair to reciprocate) . Not a huge fan but do get the urge now and then for some anal both ways especially if the chick is very hot looking short and not that well endowed

Just banged this one in Athens https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?145069-Europe-bound-escorts-rates-cheaper-in-comparison-to-here

[Hedonisticfun]

It's funny when many of the critical analysts above do go to a shop in Leichhart and enjoy having a woman shove dildos up their asses. Yet, that is not "gay".

I don't consider it gay just an extension of eroticism , like getting head , being rimmed , having nipples licked etc . Can understand not for all , just like some women don't like anal , giving head etc but for others it's just an extension of erotic sex . Pretty boring and NOT funny if you're just doing missionary or doggie especially with lights off Andrew

[Eric_li]

Yeah mate, that actually makes perfect sense — and you’re definitely not alone.

A lot of guys who are generally straight but occasionally attracted to ladyboys (especially the more feminine ones) don’t necessarily identify as gay or even bi. It's more about the aesthetic and presentation than the traditional definition of gender.

I’d say it falls somewhere in the “heteroflexible” or “bi-curious” zone for some, but honestly — labels don’t matter that much unless you need them to. If you know you’re not into cis guys and you're just drawn to ladyboys occasionally, then it’s probably more about your taste than your sexuality needing a category.

End of the day, if it turns you on and no one’s getting hurt, who cares? Enjoy what you enjoy.

You’re still a red-blooded bloke — just with a bit more flavour in your preferences

[Aussieguyinsf]

Wow. Some actual thoughtful intelligent comments in this post.

[Ziggurat]

Hasn't anyone noticed over the last 20 years that society has become nothing but lables? 98% of males are straight and don't want to go any where near a cock and balls no matter how they are dressed or undressed up, yet we apparently aren't allowed to be just straight anymore, we've got to be labelled too, "cis" whatever that made up bullshit means. In fact it means precisely jackshit.

[RodgHerMoore]

Isn't it strange how defensive the LB lovers get to hear from straight men? Why does our opinion have to be invalidated or excluded from this thread just to satisfy your craving to still be seen as on our side or the "horrible realisation" you might be bi?

I could not conceive liking another human with a cock and balls touching my junk let alone me touching and sucking theirs regardless what's upstairs.

However think about this. I'm not attracted to masculine looking chicks or even feminine chicks with zero boobs either i.e. totally flat chested. I would have zero wood and wouldn't want to be in bed with them. Doesn't mean i rule out all women.

So you LB lovers similarly don't feel attraction for masculine looking gays and even femine looking gays with no boobs. LB's float your boat because you like boobs with the feminine looks.

Just accept you're bisexual. You're just so discerning you only like those gays with boobs who look feminine. That's the only difference between a "regular gay" and LB.

Ultimately you're still accepting of cock and that's the bit that us straight guys can't understand why u can't see your gay tendancies. You're bi.

[justincase]

The guys I trust I tell all about my punting and relationships.

[RodgHerMoore]

Exactly. Just enjoy your preferences. Don't give a fk about what straight guys think about u.

But by the same token we have OP title like for LB lovers only i.e. I don't wanna hear from straight guys... Or i am straight just like the idea of a girl with a strap on.... it's eroticism...or there are grey areas stop labelling.

This is self denial and shutting out the fundamental truth that you enjoy cock and yet don't want a bar of it. There's all kinds of denial tactics, calling us straight people narrow minded....pot calling the kettle black. You're narrow minded about your tendancies.

We live in a society that has an annual parade that accepts homosexuality. Just get over it and accept who you are and sorry you will have to put up with homophobes but also don't deny what you like. Liking cock IS the very definition. That IS the red line. Just be comfortable with it. Most of us straight ppl are.

You're bi.

You will find homophobes on here as punting is inherently a hetero activity as advertisers here don't aim at female punters.

You will get all types here as in real life....those on the other side of the red line too.

Pearls of wisdom from Harold v Kumar you must watch. Only 1 min....yes the cockmeat sandwich scene with Big Bob...and the whole scene is spot on.

https://youtu.be/Hne5a_jkdyw?si=HCnMnu2Q44O9r9rh

[MindTheGap]

Isn't it strange how defensive the LB lovers get to hear from straight men? Why does our opinion have to be invalidated or excluded from this thread just to satisfy your craving to still be seen as on our side or the "horrible realisation" you might be bi?

I could not conceive liking another human with a cock and balls touching my junk let alone me touching and sucking theirs regardless what's upstairs.

However think about this. I'm not attracted to masculine looking chicks or even feminine chicks with zero boobs either i.e. totally flat chested. I would have zero wood and wouldn't want to be in bed with them. Doesn't mean i rule out all women.

So you LB lovers similarly don't feel attraction for masculine looking gays and even femine looking gays with no boobs. LB's float your boat because you like boobs with the feminine looks.

Just accept you're bisexual. You're just so discerning you only like those gays with boobs who look feminine. That's the only difference between a "regular gay" and LB.

Ultimately you're still accepting of cock and that's the bit that us straight guys can't understand why u can't see your gay tendancies. You're bi.

No they are not bisexual. They are clear that they are not sexually attracted to men. Trying to pigeon hole them into being bi shows you haven’t understood the concept. Suggest do some reading on the psychology of attraction to trans as a separate gender.

[RodgHerMoore]

You clearly didn't watch the Harold & Kumar video did you?

Kumar: are all guantanamo guards gay?
Big bob: you're the one that's gay for sucking my dick
Kumar's expression of disbelief is priceless.

This is more deflection. You didnt even bother to read what i said and suddenly conflated your logic with gender identity politics.

As a straight guy I can't stand the thought of touching another guy's cock. I've seen a photo once of a naked ladyboy and my stomach churned with revulsion. I thought whst the fk is this??

Gender identity and trans ops and breast hormone therapy is all an artificial construct.

Being straight is very clear. No cock. I empathise with humans born with a penis but psychologically wanting to be a female and they hate being born into the wrong body. I get that and don't believe in osctracising and bullying them.

You can create any number of gender identities you want but if you tell me to go out with this same man that identifies as a girl I won't. I'm straight and he has a penis.

Add boobs and face surgery. He still has a penis.

You're now using gender identity to impose on me, a straight guy, what it means to be straight.

You deflect and get on some artificially constructed high horse that a penis with boobs is female and to research trans. And you're saying that's straight??? Conveniently overlooking the fact the word boy is in ladyboy??

Remember without modern tech this ladyboy has no boobs. This is all artificial. Like gender identities of Q, I, A, B.

Well enjoying cock is the red line and sorry if i lack tact in a sensitive subject but all this deflection and trying to cling onto some woke ideas doesn't take away the fact that in some cases you still like cock. It's going to be a struggle for some to realise that liking ladyboys is being bi.

But I'm going to defend the rights of straight men to not have imposed on us the idea that being straight includes the possibility we like cock just because of some woke lefty idea that there's a new gender.

That's utter rubbish.

You think I'm ignorant of your argument and imposing on you but you're the one acting like an entitled minority. You're being the more authoritarian imposing beliefs on us straight males.

Let's be honest about biology and you're either born with a penis or vaginally. Some hermaphrodites exist. I would not date or have sex with a hermaphoridite either because there's a cock.

There's no argument to say enjoying cock is straight. It's your need to refuse the reality you like cock and are bsisexual. That's the definition of bisexuality.

I'm going to be Tom Cruise and you will be Colonel Jeossop.

"DID YOU ORDER THE COCK SUCK COLONEL!?!? WELL DID YOU!?!? "

https://youtu.be/9FnO3igOkOk?si=humg_b5eQLm1ThjW

P.s. not taking anything away from the hetero contributions some members have made who are into LB's.

[Aussieguyinsf]

You clearly didn't watch the Harold & Kumar video did you?

Kumar: are all guantanamo guards gay?
Big bob: you're the one that's gay for sucking my dick
Kumar's expression of disbelief is priceless.

This is more deflection. You didnt even bother to read what i said and suddenly conflated your logic with gender identity politics.

As a straight guy I can't stand the thought of touching another guy's cock. I've seen a photo once of a naked ladyboy and my stomach churned with revulsion. I thought whst the fk is this??

Gender identity and trans ops and breast hormone therapy is all an artificial construct.

Being straight is very clear. No cock. I empathise with humans born with a penis but psychologically wanting to be a female and they hate being born into the wrong body. I get that and don't believe in osctracising and bullying them.

You can create any number of gender identities you want but if you tell me to go out with this same man that identifies as a girl I won't. I'm straight and he has a penis.

Add boobs and face surgery. He still has a penis.

You're now using gender identity to impose on me, a straight guy, what it means to be straight.

You deflect and get on some artificially constructed high horse that a penis with boobs is female and to research trans. And you're saying that's straight??? Conveniently overlooking the fact the word boy is in ladyboy??

Remember without modern tech this ladyboy has no boobs. This is all artificial. Like gender identities of Q, I, A, B.

Well enjoying cock is the red line and sorry if i lack tact in a sensitive subject but all this deflection and trying to cling onto some woke ideas doesn't take away the fact that in some cases you still like cock. It's going to be a struggle for some to realise that liking ladyboys is being bi.

But I'm going to defend the rights of straight men to not have imposed on us the idea that being straight includes the possibility we like cock just because of some woke lefty idea that there's a new gender.

That's utter rubbish.

You think I'm ignorant of your argument and imposing on you but you're the one acting like an entitled minority. You're being the more authoritarian imposing beliefs on us straight males.

Let's be honest about biology and you're either born with a penis or vaginally. Some hermaphrodites exist. I would not date or have sex with a hermaphoridite either because there's a cock.

There's no argument to say enjoying cock is straight. It's your need to refuse the reality you like cock and are bsisexual. That's the definition of bisexuality.

I'm going to be Tom Cruise and you will be Colonel Jeossop.

"DID YOU ORDER THE COCK SUCK COLONEL!?!? WELL DID YOU!?!? "

https://youtu.be/9FnO3igOkOk?si=humg_b5eQLm1ThjW

P.s. not taking anything away from the hetero contributions some members have made who are into LB's.

For a straight guy you devote a lot of time to talking about other cocks.

[booty_duty]

Gay, straight, bi, whatever.... who really cares?

The fact is that the title of this thread is "For those who dabble with ladyboys …" - the word ladyboy is clear as night and day.

If you're 100% straight as an arrow and have no curiosity in anything pertaining to penises, then why for the love of God would you even click on the thread to read it?

As at time of writing, there's been 5501 views on this thread, so I'm just saying that there perhaps isn't such a thing as 100% straight maybe?

[Ziggurat]

They are viewing it as straights, to see if there will be an answer somewhere to a mystery they find completely baffling. In his drawing of red lines this is well expressed by Rodgerhermoore.

[dewayne]

Dated a trans woman for about a year when I was in my late 20s and she was wonderful and so feminine and great in the sack. If I had to give myself a label it would be "who gives a shit"

[CharlieM]

I think the the over use of porn has a lot to do with the ever changing sexual preferences. Just my opinion based on my own personal experiences.
As an older punter on here, I started masturbating to magazines like Playboy and Penthouse at a very early age. Advanced to VHS videos and then DVD. Then married and progressed to on line Porn. Pics at first then progressed to video. By this stage over 20 years of wanking to straight porn. You start to get imune and start finding it hard to get turned on and then you stumble across something different that gets you hard. In those years was not punting and completely faithfull to my wife. Only started seriously punting after returning with my wife after an 18 month separation.
Back to the porn. Started getting hooked back in the day on wife sharing porn and it was all I could fantasise about for years. Getting turned on with my wife being fucked with other men in all sorts of scenarios. Would I ever try in real life. No way. Firstly, its just a fantasy and something i have no thoughts on trying for real. Then, there is no ways my wife would want to try and I know our marriage would never be able to cope with it.
As I moved on also noticed that I was turned on watching she male porn. Again, would I give it a go in real life. No way. Im totally in to women. Biggest perv of women ever. Love the pussy. Love licking pussy for my own satisfaction.
Is it possible that for many we are just bored and looking for something different!

[Ziggurat]

I've seen a photo once of a naked ladyboy and my stomach churned with revulsion. I thought whst the fk is this??

I have a friend of decades though only seeing him infrequently over that time who went off the radar completely for a few years and then re-emerged as a trans woman. He was showing me pictures on his phone of his new life, including his new interest in wearing tight nightclubbing style dresses. I looked at these with a polite but wan interest. He had a screen up of thumbnail stamp sized images to tap on and he tapped on one to enlarge and I just had time to cover my hand over the screen because I knew it was going to be one of him stark naked. I don't know why the fuck he thought I'd want to look at that. I knew like rodgerhermoore it would be an image that once seen could not be unseen. I said don't show me that for fuck's sake ha ha.

[RodgHerMoore]

Why are there so many views? Because there's a culture war going in and maybe a few rude awakenings.

Parting point and I'm not going to interact any more with with this stupid thread. Why am i turning into Warwick?

Let me preface this by saying clearly there are members struggling with a sensitive confronting topic and the realisation they're not straight. If you're exploring your sexuality and looking for answers the last place is on an inherently hetero forum as you won't find empathy or coddling from straight ppl or from me. I wont treat this with the delicacy it deserves

You need to go to an LGBTQIA forum or speak to a psychologist to explore your inner daemons and denials. What's with this argumentative woke crap on a punting forum of all places.

If you bring gender identity into this to justify enjoying cock is straight, if you argue there is greyness....then wake up....you're in the LGBTQIA + community without even knowing it.

Thread titles like for those Ladyboy lovers only or warning there is cock inside. You shield yourself from being judged. Why?

Deep down inside you know it's not normal straight behaviour. You already run to your minority group because you know it's not the mainstream on this forum.

Case in point. I dare you to go to a boy's high school change room with testosterone fuelled rugby playing homophobes and declare you like cock of a ladyboy and argue that's straight. You would make it out but in an ambulance. You know it.

No mental gymnastics or running to the bossom of wokeness (pun intended) will alter facts...btw you're bossom fixated which leads you to accept cock. Wtf? Says the straight guy

Speaking of wokeness and greyness i did a bit of research. I read more about the Kinsey scale than i needed to know. How about you replace the scale of heterosexuality to the degree you seek cock. If it's not zero, then you're bi.

Seriously, do yourself a favour and go to a LGBTQIA forum and seek comfort, solace and understanding there. Maybe DM each other here so you can all find a thread there to explore with that community. It's a safer space to explore your sexuality and coming out.

Instead if working on the English Dictionary definition of straight and imposing that on others, go work on yourself. That's where i get pissed off. But I'm still accepting of Bi people.

Otherwise if signs of cock hunger persist...go see your doctor.

[MindTheGap]

Why are there so many views? Because there's a culture war going in and maybe a few rude awakenings.

Parting point and I'm not going to interact any more with with this stupid thread. Why am i turning into Warwick?

Let me preface this by saying clearly there are members struggling with a sensitive confronting topic and the realisation they're not straight. If you're exploring your sexuality and looking for answers the last place is on an inherently hetero forum as you won't find empathy or coddling from straight ppl or from me. I wont treat this with the delicacy it deserves

You need to go to an LGBTQIA forum or speak to a psychologist to explore your inner daemons and denials. What's with this argumentative woke crap on a punting forum of all places.

If you bring gender identity into this to justify enjoying cock is straight, if you argue there is greyness....then wake up....you're in the LGBTQIA + community without even knowing it.

Thread titles like for those Ladyboy lovers only or warning there is cock inside. You shield yourself from being judged. Why?

Deep down inside you know it's not normal straight behaviour. You already run to your minority group because you know it's not the mainstream on this forum.

Case in point. I dare you to go to a boy's high school change room with testosterone fuelled rugby playing homophobes and declare you like cock of a ladyboy and argue that's straight. You would make it out but in an ambulance. You know it.

No mental gymnastics or running to the bossom of wokeness (pun intended) will alter facts...btw you're bossom fixated which leads you to accept cock. Wtf? Says the straight guy

Speaking of wokeness and greyness i did a bit of research. I read more about the Kinsey scale than i needed to know. How about you replace the scale of heterosexuality to the degree you seek cock. If it's not zero, then you're bi.

Seriously, do yourself a favour and go to a LGBTQIA forum and seek comfort, solace and understanding there. Maybe DM each other here so you can all find a thread there to explore with that community. It's a safer space to explore your sexuality and coming out.

Instead if working on the English Dictionary definition of straight and imposing that on others, go work on yourself. That's where i get pissed off. But I'm still accepting of Bi people.

Otherwise if signs of cock hunger persist...go see your doctor.

For someone not interested in trans women you spend an awful lot of time writing essays on the topic.

Maybe you secretly do want to try a woman with a cock inside you?

[CharlieM]

Hey RodgerHerMoore, have no fear, you are nothing like Warwick. Warwick would have condensed all that you stated in 13 paragraphs on your post in one sentence. And it would've been harsh, narrow minded and wouldn't have apologised for it. Even though we didn't always see eye to eye, I must admit that I miss him.
Yep, ...for someone not interested in anything Trans you sure went out of your way to respond to this post.

Our Punting hobby, is something that is very much frowned upon in the greater community. You know what I mean. The expression on peoples faces when they see you leave an establishment and we do the walk of shame. Us Punters a very much a minority group. We sneak in and out of shops and spend our time on anonymous forums discussing our punting experiences as we only understand each other. Im a well known person in my community and my world would be rocked if my punting exploits were to surface.

I've never been with anyone but a female(or that what I was lead to believe) and have no intention to go trans although I must admit have been tempted in the past. So if that makes me Bi so be it. I couldn't give a fuck.
What I find strange is men who shut down anything that is remotely gay, its like they're scared if they have a look, consider it or God forbid try it, that they will turn Gay. If your so sure of yourself and know there is no way you would cross that line then you should be OK with any exposure to it as you know it doesn't interest you at all. So when people put up posts criticising anyone with different sexual preferences i tend to believe that may be they are not 100% sure of their sexuality.

[pound4pound]

For someone not interested in trans women you spend an awful lot of time writing essays on the topic.

Maybe you secretly do want to try a woman with a cock inside you?

Agreed good point.

[Roydemeo]

If you suck a cock you’re bi but if you do it to completion and swallow you turn from bi to gay

[MindTheGap]

If you suck a cock you’re bi but if you do it to completion and swallow you turn from bi to gay

This did make me laugh 😂

[andrewv]

This thread has become really, really boring.

[pound4pound]

This thread has become really, really boring.

Agreed let people enjoy their own sexual fantasies what ever makes them happy and don’t hurt anybody.

[MindTheGap]

This thread has become really, really boring.

Usually does when people stop being curious and start preaching like know it alls.

Amazing how righteous some are.

[Ziggurat]

The reason there have been so many views is not because of any interest per se by this hetero site in ladyboys. They are following it because they became interested in the discussion which took interesting turns.

As the voting viewers have attested, it isn’t boring in the least, and nor is it unkind. Nor am I unkind or rodgerhermoore. It is genuinely merely a case of all these readers having their intellects puzzled by the inherent contradiction between the two words “straight” and “cock” being in the same sentence. But mainly being in the same act. :burn:

The ladyboy fanciers - those who have actively posted – have the power to provide that resolution by simply letting us know specifically what goes through their heads when they read rodgerhermoore’s logic. He’s rather ruthless in his ability to debate pithily with an unarguable logic, but his is a proposition akin to arguing that the sky is blue. The two combined make his a most unfair advantage – at least to the extent that acknowledging the sky is blue is unfair. That’s because logic exists outside of all of us and none of us are responsible for it.

But we are all responsible to it.

Silence may sometimes be an eloquent response to this, in the sense of concession. But in this instance you simply only need share what goes through your mind when you read rodgerhermoore (whom I wish had a frickin’ shorter user name, I’m sick of typing it.)

His came down to two items:

1 An appeal for you to come out as bi

based on

2 An objection that your failure to is a reverse take over of all of straightdom.

He avers it is the tail wagging the dog - big time.

Ironically, rodgerhermoore’s is therefore a generous appeal for you to live and let live. A denial you ironically throw at him.

These thousands of viewers would also therefore likewise like a resolution to it. They don’t want it to end wimpily as it has here, like a thirsty creek disappearing into desert sand. (Thirsty creek - that’s kind of poetic. :prettiness:) It doesn’t, they feel, deserve that lowly fate. The creek might be gone but their thirst remains.

Instead they want it to end with the Wagnerian drama it calls for. Here on this forum would be introduced a new epoch. It only need one of you to officially come out as as a sub-set of bi, because that, ironically, would be a reverse takeover of the multitude who won’t. They’d have no say in it, like the lack of say that an intransigence imposes on the much, much greater multitude.

Such a positive power you have. Use it ! Yours is an act to put the universe back into sane balance. Who would have thought that in this tiny tiny corner of a remote forum far far away there is the power to do that?

[MindTheGap]

It’s not a binary option. It’s not either / or. Men who find some trans women attractive do so for many different reasons. What is lacking in the arguments is an understanding of motivation and they are full of generalised appeals to authority - and just very bad logic.

Spend your time reading about the history of sexuality and you will find that people moving across the spectrum is fluid and normal.

It’s only in cultures fathered by Victorian colonization that we have such repressed minds.

[CharlieM]

This topic will fade away just as it allways has. But just as the "No Indian" topic, it will rear its head again in the near future.

[blackm0nk]

I thank everyone for their contributions. Interesting read I must say.

[Ziggurat]

It’s not a binary option. It’s not either / or.

That is your subjective experience so you're not qualified to say that. You need to be on the straight side of the divide to be able to make that judgement. For them, I assure you, it is very much a binary position. Avoidance, to them, is inescapably visceral. They don't need to read jackshit about the history of sexuality to know that, it is beyond all literature. No way are they going to be able to read themselves into liking ladyboys. There is a genuine, binary divide, and it's not caused by being a re-born neo-colonialist. :question:

I have learnt new things in this thread. I thought that a superficial feminine appearance and the certainty of anal was the attraction and that the cock and balls on a ladyboy as much as possible were avoided as an inconvenient truth. It's the straight way of thinking, and I must have been innocent and naive. For the first time I learnt here that far from avoiding so much as a glimpse of what they are packing, what they are packing is actually celebrated. It is what changed me from bafflement to an understanding of what rodgerhermoore was on about.

There are a lot of viewers of this thread on a subject that rarely comes up. The opening poster himself has found it interesting and informative. So some of those viewers should respond to the commonsense in rodgerhermoore's appeal to them because we aren't getting too far with the active posters. They could as I said inaugerate a reverse takeover and change the world. :D

[pound4pound]

Well said common sense and logical response.

[urmumsurdad]

Men suck cock = gay
Men eat pussy = straight
Women eat pussy = lesbian
Women suck cock = straight
Indian = fuck off

Stay mad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[MindTheGap]

To be gay is to be “primarily” or “exclusively” attracted to the same gender identity as yourself.

To mostly fuck women and occasionally fuck someone who is a pre-operative trans woman would not qualify you as gay.

It may qualify you as pansexual or even heteroflexible.,

What I keep reading here is an absence of curiosity and a preference to defend your positions at all costs. Feel free to do that - but you won’t learn anything of value.

[andrewv]

The proper definition of punters who mainly see girls at shops but now and then see ladyboys is that they are "kinky".

These punters would never dream of going to a shop to receive a service from a bloke-looking person.

It is just one slice of the kink spectrum. Most of us have some kinks that are not socially acceptable.

[Ziggurat]

It's funny when many of the critical analysts above do go to a shop in Leichhart and enjoy having a woman shove dildos up their asses. Yet, that is not "gay".

Well it is mere human physiology to have the same nerves in that region as any one else. Yet it is true that there are a lot of men who think the arse is far too gay and so they probably only go as far as rimming or a bit of dragon drilling, but not the whole hog.

Mr Spock might say "It's penetration, Jim, but not as we know it."
:shout:

[Aussieguyinsf]

Why are there so many views? Because there's a culture war going in and maybe a few rude awakenings.

Parting point and I'm not going to interact any more with with this stupid thread. Why am i turning into Warwick?

Let me preface this by saying clearly there are members struggling with a sensitive confronting topic and the realisation they're not straight. If you're exploring your sexuality and looking for answers the last place is on an inherently hetero forum as you won't find empathy or coddling from straight ppl or from me. I wont treat this with the delicacy it deserves

You need to go to an LGBTQIA forum or speak to a psychologist to explore your inner daemons and denials. What's with this argumentative woke crap on a punting forum of all places.

If you bring gender identity into this to justify enjoying cock is straight, if you argue there is greyness....then wake up....you're in the LGBTQIA + community without even knowing it.

Thread titles like for those Ladyboy lovers only or warning there is cock inside. You shield yourself from being judged. Why?

Deep down inside you know it's not normal straight behaviour. You already run to your minority group because you know it's not the mainstream on this forum.

Case in point. I dare you to go to a boy's high school change room with testosterone fuelled rugby playing homophobes and declare you like cock of a ladyboy and argue that's straight. You would make it out but in an ambulance. You know it.

No mental gymnastics or running to the bossom of wokeness (pun intended) will alter facts...btw you're bossom fixated which leads you to accept cock. Wtf? Says the straight guy

Speaking of wokeness and greyness i did a bit of research. I read more about the Kinsey scale than i needed to know. How about you replace the scale of heterosexuality to the degree you seek cock. If it's not zero, then you're bi.

Seriously, do yourself a favour and go to a LGBTQIA forum and seek comfort, solace and understanding there. Maybe DM each other here so you can all find a thread there to explore with that community. It's a safer space to explore your sexuality and coming out.

Instead if working on the English Dictionary definition of straight and imposing that on others, go work on yourself. That's where i get pissed off. But I'm still accepting of Bi people.

Otherwise if signs of cock hunger persist...go see your doctor.

And that open point of view and welcoming attitude might just be the reason you have to pay for sex.

[Double_Adapter]

Let’s be real here, everyone keeps harping on about ladyboys, but at the end of the fucken day, these are full-grown ass men presenting as women. If we’re being accurate, “ladymen” might be the more fitting term.....just saying.

[Roydemeo]

Let’s be real here, everyone keeps harping on about ladyboys, but at the end of the fucken day, these are full-grown ass men presenting as women. If we’re being accurate, “ladymen” might be the more fitting term.....just saying.

Ladyblokes has a nice ring to it too

[pound4pound]

Some ladyboys are more prettier than wife’s and gfs.

[Rustyman1980]

I agree
Some LB are fucking hot, but I'd have to be totally fucked up on G or a horny mthr fkr to go there, because I have reconsidered my pov, if you fuck or get fucked by a LB you're gay, at least in that moment you were, maybe now you're hetero again but you're def had a gay experience
So what.


Some ladyboys are more prettier than wife’s and gfs.

[justincase]

It’s not just the looks but the clothes they wear.

[Ziggurat]

I was wondering if your interest also extends to drag queens? If not, why not?

https://i.postimg.cc/yxz0c6Yh/DQ.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FdDfQ4S1)

For me, my image of Hell is to be in Hell and ***ked continually up the arse for eternity by a daemonic figure just like this one. :shout:

[blackm0nk]

I was wondering if your interest also extends to drag queens? If not, why not?

https://i.postimg.cc/yxz0c6Yh/DQ.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FdDfQ4S1)

For me, my image of Hell is to be in Hell and ***ked continually up the arse for eternity by a daemonic figure just like this one. :shout:

Far too blokey for me.. Haha

[dewayne]

at the end of the fucken day, these are full-grown ass men presenting as women.
Ok thread's over, it's devolved into this

[MindTheGap]

More like these girls

https://ca.pinterest.com/QueenShane1992/hot-trans-women/

The fantasy is more common that you think.

In a 2018 study by Kinsey Institute fellow Justin Lehmiller of 4,175 Americans' sexual fantasies, he found that "about one in three men and one in four women" reported they had "fantasized about sex with a transsexual partner."

The largest consumers of trans porn are “straight men”

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-024-00395-0

In a 2024 review article, it was found the "largest consumers of pornography featuring transwomen are heterosexual cisgender men. In contrast, with regard to porn featuring trans men as protagonists, the largest consumers are cisgender women and gay men."

[Ziggurat]

Ha ha, those pictures are a dead set mind ***k more than anything else.

It does raise a point. It seems that if there is a source then there will be a desire.

So who are the guys that prefer drag queens ffs?? Are they "straight" too??

[Hedonisticfun]

Some ladyboys are more prettier than wife’s and gfs.

.. and that ends any debate for me on being gay . As mentioned before I consider them , only the real attractive feminine ones , as females with permanent strap-ons

[Hedonisticfun]

[QUOTE=Ziggurat;3542195]I was wondering if your interest also extends to drag queens? If not, why not?



No , no AND NO !!! Just a bloke dressed up , same as some transvestites . Too blokey , too masculine and too UGLY. No sexual attraction whatsoever

[Aussieguyinsf]

Ok I’m a poofter. Happy?

[John Holmes]

Let’s be real here, everyone keeps harping on about ladyboys, but at the end of the fucken day, these are full-grown ass men presenting as women. If we’re being accurate, “ladymen” might be the more fitting term.....just saying.

In other words “There’s no such thing as chicks with dicks, it’s guys with boobs!” Hey, those’d who fancy them, good on ‘em’! Each to there own
🍈🍈🍌🥜🥜

[Hedonisticfun]

In other words “There’s no such thing as chicks with dicks, it’s guys with boobs!” Hey, those’d who fancy them, good on ‘em’! Each to there own
🍈🍈🍌🥜🥜

Lawdy .. talk about being categorised. Why not accept it just another way of getting your rocks off .. bi , gay , novice who cares , might as well throw every other practice into the mix as well gang banging , beastiality , BDSM etc

[Double_Adapter]

Lawdy .. talk about being categorised. Why not accept it just another way of getting your rocks off .. bi , gay , novice who cares , might as well throw every other practice into the mix as well gang banging , beastiality , BDSM etc

....and while we're at it let's chuck in kinemortophilia and necrophilia into the mix.