Trying to not be spotted by WL i know

[RogerWood]

Not sure if anyone else has this issue but I've found a few ladies get a bit upset if I dont tell them in advance that I'm coming to the shop they work in. I often collect their wechats or mobile numbers (might be a mistake), but when they spot me in the store and I haven't arranged to meet with them they get a tiny bit upset. I've found that if I meet with same WL I get bored and like to meet new ones most of the time.

I Guess by collecting their contact details im leading them on, but I definitely do second or more return visits with some ladies. Im thinking of heading to a few places tonight, but a bit hesitant to line anything up at them. I definitely prefer random hookups than arranged ones I've decided.

[Max86]

Yep, I’ve had that experience. Particularly with one girl who give me their WeChat contact after a couple of sessions. I tend not to see them again if they get possessive and in that case stayed away from that shop until she left.

[JJBlows]

Your her meal ticket. She probably gets upset as she dont want "her" money going to another ML

[Shitsyeah]

Not sure if anyone else has this issue but I've found a few ladies get a bit upset if I dont tell them in advance that I'm coming to the shop they work in. I often collect their wechats or mobile numbers (might be a mistake), but when they spot me in the store and I haven't arranged to meet with them they get a tiny bit upset. I've found that if I meet with same WL I get bored and like to meet new ones most of the time.

I Guess by collecting their contact details im leading them on, but I definitely do second or more return visits with some ladies. Im thinking of heading to a few places tonight, but a bit hesitant to line anything up at them. I definitely prefer random hookups than arranged ones I've decided.

I only ever once got a "number" of a WL I had seen numerous times.
In the end I found it not to be a good thing as I got involved in some of her personal issues.
No I did not have a relationship with her outside the shop.
So since then I do not exchange details with anyone I might see whether ML or WL.

And yes for some if you visit their place of employment and you see one of the others while they are also working that can lead to issues.

Happy Punting

[johncitizen]

Your her meal ticket. She probably gets upset as she dont want "her" money going to another ML

Its certainly about the money, but I think theres also a bit of ego involved.

If OP asks for her details, then thats a boost to her ego. Its telling her that shes valued, that she did a good job, etc.

If she sees him with another girl, then she starts questioning those things and the ego takes a bit of a hit. Arent I good enough for him? Is she better looking than I am? Is there something wrong with me?

OP, if it’s an issue for you, maybe manage their expectations a bit when you ask for their number (if you aren’t already). If that fails, then just cut contact.

Or wear a disguise 🥸

[urbanizer]

I can understand the trepidation as I might have felt similarly early on in my punting years. Now, I couldn’t care less what the ml thinks… she ain’t exactly crossing her legs to every other dick that swings in to the shop. It’s a free market

[ColesBag]

Your her meal ticket. She probably gets upset as she dont want "her" money going to another ML

It's always about money. The sisterhood is a load of shit when it comes to men.

[dr3w]

I’m tempted to ask the detail of a girl I see regularly and have known for long time but it’s probably for the best that I don’t; we enjoy each other company in the shop and that’s about it

[11Bravo]

Your her meal ticket. She probably gets upset as she dont want "her" money going to another ML


Its certainly about the money, but I think theres also a bit of ego involved.

Both are correct, to which I'll add to JC's, it's not just her ego, but also about "losing face" with her colleagues. A Thai a-gogo BG clued me in decades ago.

And don't discount "special", and no, it's not love (L..U..V), but just recognizing you as an individual person rather than just another widget. Someone she knows, can relax around, vaguely "trust"..., or perhaps a better word might be "predictable". Just today, opening time punt, she messaged me I should't arrive at 10:00; the shop would not be good-to-go. 10 minutes after the hour would be perfect. When I got there, I thanked her. Her reply? She knew I always arrived on-time or early (usually punt later), so didn't want me to needlessly rush. Simply recognized me as an individual (a punctual individual, along with being a puntual individual).

Solution? Easy. In any given shop, 1 regular for any given day. You want to see another girl, same day, same shop, pick the other and lose any "frequent flier miles" you may have with the first. Or see the other girl on another day and/or in a different shop. I understand the latter can take some work. I've had to do a lot of reading, checking of shop rosters, to arrange the appropriate alignments. Nice thing about having her contact, once you do, easy to find out where else she works simply by asking (nice when she messages you her full work week's locations).

And yes, I understand girls talk (the horror, the horror). But reduced conflict, if at all, because no toes are being stepped on directly.

And I do care what she thinks, especially if I'm going to see her again. I might fly economy, but, with status, there are perks available.

Bottom Line: It's just business, business competition from competing colleagues. Think a brokerage firm; who's your broker there.

IME, respect does pay dividends.


My question for the OP would be: why are you collecting contacts if they're of little value/use to you? If you're seeing her (them) for a relative short time, why bother getting her contact? Get contacts for the ones you know will be long term. If you do lose contact, just whine on the "where are they now" thread.


I’m tempted to ask the detail of a girl I see regularly and have known for long time but it’s probably for the best that I don’t; we enjoy each other company in the shop and that’s about it
For me, the main reason I collect contacts is in case she changes employment location. Easy to find when I'm BOTG again. Secondary is to avoid booking conflicts: if she AND the shop know about my booking, reduces problems. Third, if either she or I have a sudden change of plan, we can let the other know, avoids wasting time on both sides. Simply respect.

[neveragain]

Expecting a punter to only fuck with one WL is like expecting a WL to only fuck with one punter. Any WL who exhibits that kind of behaviour or guilt-tripping should be left in the past. Find the ones that appreciate it when you see them regardless of who else you've seen in between.

[Fallinlove]

Expecting a punter to only fuck with one WL is like expecting a WL to only fuck with one punter. Any WL who exhibits that kind of behaviour or guilt-tripping should be left in the past. Find the ones that appreciate it when you see them regardless of who else you've seen in between.

Hahaha this made me chuckle mate very true why in the hell would a WL act this way. Most WLs I’ve seen I’ve told them you are the only one surely they don’t believe me and vice versa almost all of them say I’m their “special one” haha neither of us believe it though I’m sure. So to think a WL would act this way is absurd getting upset when you see other WLs makes no sense but maybe if you were dating them! Even then can you get around your head with you just seeing her and she ploughing other men all day everyday ?

[triedforonce]

I'm only collecting my regular numbers (yes plural), mostly to track them if they haven't appear in the shop for a while, if i don't receive reply i just assume they aren't working anymore and that's the end of it.

My latest regular, she was working every now and then, like coming once and then no nees for 3 weeks or even more. Then i asked her number which she gave it happily, i started to see her regularly, almost every week, sometimes she contacted me first, there were occasions she just came to shop after her regular work day to see me.

Like every one said, I'm not falling into delusion that she likes me or vice versa, we just having fun and of course she likes the money. Get her number is just a way to know where and when i can meet her, until she is back for good.

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[aussiegaigin]

I ask the girl what days she works at the shop. If I want to avoid her and try other girls, I'd go on the days off.

If she is a floater, ring the shop in the morning and ask if she is working. If they say yes, just say you'll ring back later to make a booking time, but don't follow up.

[RogerWood]

I'm starting to think some younger WL who come here to live are looking for potential husbands. I know its not ridiculous to conceive that it can happen, but I thought the constant sex and role they play would sour their appetite for marriage and men in general. Ive noticed the older ladies dont seem to let on if they like u. But a few younger ones with less water under the bridge seem to think its possible. I do feel sorry for them, must be a tough reality to learn that guys just want sex and move on. Yes it's obvious to punters, but I do feel that some younger ladies see it differently.

[JJBlows]

I'm starting to think some younger WL who come here to live are looking for potential husbands. I know its not ridiculous to conceive that it can happen, but I thought the constant sex and role they play would sour their appetite for marriage and men in general. Ive noticed the older ladies dont seem to let on if they like u. But a few younger ones with less water under the bridge seem to think its possible. I do feel sorry for them, must be a tough reality to learn that guys just want sex and move on. Yes it's obvious to punters, but I do feel that some younger ladies see it differently.

Depends on the guy and girl, I have heard from some WL's that some girls have ended up marrying their customer. I think she said it was common between the Koreans and Chinese

[andrewv]

Depends on the guy and girl, I have heard from some WL's that some girls have ended up marrying their customer. I think she said it was common between the Koreans and Chinese

If a ML/WL marries her customer, it's a transactional marriage -- purely for an Aussie resident visa and/or financial security.

If the man is gullible and "falls in love", he's been manipulated to agree to marry her.

Some of you here will now go defensive and try to say otherwise, but you go and watch what happens to those marriages after 2 years when the woman gets her permanent residency and no longer needs him. In fact, some can speed up the process during the two years by going to the authorities and claiming that he abused her. She can then be granted residency without waiting the full 2 years.

[andrewv]

Not sure if anyone else has this issue but I've found a few ladies get a bit upset if I dont tell them in advance that I'm coming to the shop they work in. I often collect their wechats or mobile numbers (might be a mistake), but when they spot me in the store and I haven't arranged to meet with them they get a tiny bit upset. I've found that if I meet with same WL I get bored and like to meet new ones most of the time.

I Guess by collecting their contact details im leading them on, but I definitely do second or more return visits with some ladies. Im thinking of heading to a few places tonight, but a bit hesitant to line anything up at them. I definitely prefer random hookups than arranged ones I've decided.

No, brother. You are not "leading them on". They are entrapping you because they know by becoming a bit too personal with you, when they give you their direct contact details, you will become a bit emotionally hooked --- and you become a more secure source of $$$$$$ for them. The WL/ML are self-emoloyed workers, competing with other girls at these shops for business.

If you ask any frank and intelligent woman, she would tell you that in her views "men are weak and can be manipulated."

[GoldfishMan]

This is exactly why I love the arrangement at GC. Girls get their own rooms so they generally stay there. They don't need to walk around in the hallways going to do their bookings, so there's less chance of bumping into a regular on your way to see a different girl.

[JJBlows]

If a ML/WL marries her customer, it's a transactional marriage -- purely for an Aussie resident visa and/or financial security.

If the man is gullible and "falls in love", he's been manipulated to agree to marry her.

Some of you here will now go defensive and try to say otherwise, but you go and watch what happens to those marriages after 2 years when the woman gets her permanent residency and no longer needs him. In fact, some can speed up the process during the two years by going to the authorities and claiming that he abused her. She can then be granted residency without waiting the full 2 years.

Oh yea if it was an Aussie then I understand the visa thing, just this WL was saying it was non resident asian customers etc. Maybe they have married those rich Chinese students

[andrewv]

Not sure if the migration agent is still working in Chinatown upstairs from a restaurant. A few years ago, during a chance meeting, he told me how he and other agents operate a market of introducing Chinese female uni students and poor women to Chinese businessmen who are seeking migration to Australia.
At that time, the price was $50,000 cash plus 2 years of free rent and a living allowance from the time they got married, then when the man got his permanent residency after 2 years, they got divorced and the woman got paid a second $50,000. These women don't even have to have sex with their "husbands" during this time.

[11Bravo]

No, brother. You are not "leading them on". They are entrapping you because they know by becoming a bit too personal with you, when they give you their direct contact details, you will become a bit emotionally hooked --- and you become a more secure source of $$$$$$ for them. The WL/ML are self-emoloyed workers, competing with other girls at these shops for business.
Gee, here I thought i was just asking for the modern equivalent of a business card. Win-win: I don't need to whine "whatever happened to _____" here, and she gets another client that she can bring to a new shop if she moves. But then, I'm old enough to remember punting before mobiles. Greatest advancement to punting was the mobile phone (not even smart) that you had a contact you could sms. It's just business.

BTW: Showed my age the other day. In a restaurant, decent, asked for a "business card". Nope, didn't have. Take out menu? Nope, didn't have. But the cashier could google search for the website for me... Honestly, not something I was happy with, displaying my search history.