Do WLs actually keep in touch after? My experience was… mixed

[Liveball24]

Hey guys,

Just curious about your experiences. Do you guys usually stay in contact with WLs after seeing them?

I went punting before and one WL asked for my number, so we kept in touch for a while. But with another WL, I asked for her number and she refused.

So now I’m a bit confused — is it normal for WLs to keep contact, or was my first case just rare?

Keen to hear what others have experienced.

[1inchguy]

Keep in touch for what? For regular session?

Here's my experience. I have regulars we exchange numbers. This is for easier booking so I dont have to deal with the manger or jealous girls (yes some girls that pick up the phone or managers say the girl youre booking is not working even though she is. Or even try to push you to see other girls.)

That said , long time ago I have had exchange numbers with ml lady. We kept in contact and we message regularly, talking about our life etc we have lunch or dinner then fs but at her place. I still paid for the service. I never pushed anything to be free.
Kept this up for few years but I lost interest and moved on..

[Liveball24]

Keep in touch for what? For regular session?

Here's my experience. I have regulars we exchange numbers. This is for easier booking so I dont have to deal with the manger or jealous girls (yes some girls that pick up the phone or managers say the girl youre booking is not working even though she is. Or even try to push you to see other girls.)

That said , long time ago I have had exchange numbers with ml lady. We kept in contact and we message regularly, talking about our life etc we have lunch or dinner then fs but at her place. I still paid for the service. I never pushed anything to be free.
Kept this up for few years but I lost interest and moved on..

I was wondering if they take your number just to manage clients. During my session, she got a call from a client and sent him a message while we were talking.

[Hedonisticfun]

Hey guys,

Just curious about your experiences. Do you guys usually stay in contact with WLs after seeing them?

I went punting before and one WL asked for my number, so we kept in touch for a while. But with another WL, I asked for her number and she refused.

So now I’m a bit confused — is it normal for WLs to keep contact, or was my first case just rare?

Keen to hear what others have experienced.

Just like punters prefer certain WLs , WLs prefer certain punters .. giving out personal numbers gives a preference to seeing you again outside the establishment or agent/agency , have even had other punters cancelled to accept my session

[neveragain]

Some of them Wechats and whatsapps yes, but not straight up numbers.

[OmniMime]

WeChat, Whatsapp and phone numbers, yes, depending on who it is. But never with social media accounts since I preferred keeping it outside the punting field.

[GoldfishMan]

I am utterly baffled that OP is confused that some girls behave differently from others.
I mean who can possibly think that every person of any category, sex, race, skin colour, job role, etc, will behave in exactly the same way? A baby might think that way but a grown man? Come on...

[11Bravo]

The greatest advance in punting was when mobiles (not smart, plain mobiles) became cheap enough so that the providers could afford them. For the punters, you could now SMS message a provider directly: where was she? where would she be? would she like to meet? Reduced the frustration of having to go look for them in the bars, clubs, shops. If she couldn't read or write English, no problem. One of her friends could. For the providers, it gave them a client list, which was VALUABLE. Punters were "loyal" to providers, not bars, clubs, shops. So valuable that when a provider left, she would SELL her phone (and phone number client list) to another girl.

Now with smart phones and apps, numbers are used less, apps more. WeChat has built-in translation. There's Line, Whatsapp. In SYD, for me, it's mostly WeChat. Line in BKK. It works for both parties. She has a client list that she can bring to a new shop. You can readily find her again, foregoing the plaintive wailings of "Has anyone seen {______}?" Some will make bookings for you, others will ask that you still do yourself. But it's handy to pass along info in both directions: let her know you've booked her, where is she working now, what's her schedule. With her: restricted monthly duty, running late, sick... I never try and bypass the shop, it's just a way to make sure everyone is on the same page. As HDF says, providers have their preferences.

IME, if a provider thinks you have potential as an income source, she'll provider her contact. If not, you're clutter, she won't. Some won't on the first meet, others will. IME, most use apps, numbers less preferred.

Some punters are concerned they might receive unsolicited messages. Providers are smart, they don't want to alienate good customers. I've never had a problem. You just need to explain what is acceptable. As I've said many times, if you respect her, she'll respect you. If you're straight with her, she'll be straight with you.

As to keeping in touch, for me, yes we do. As an example: a couple of my BKK favs, there was a 3 year gap of physical contact due to Covid restrictions. Not a problem. We kept in contact. Travel allowed, picked right back up. Anywhere, if you have her contact, you'll be "known", for better of for worse.

Highly recommended, especially as I remember the dark ages, before mobiles.

[johncitizen]

Hey guys,

Just curious about your experiences. Do you guys usually stay in contact with WLs after seeing them?

I went punting before and one WL asked for my number, so we kept in touch for a while. But with another WL, I asked for her number and she refused.

So now I’m a bit confused — is it normal for WLs to keep contact, or was my first case just rare?

Keen to hear what others have experienced.

It’s not normal for me. Out of all of the ones I’ve seen, I only keep contact with three, all on WeChat.
Two of them I speak to only when I want to see them, and they don’t message me unless I message them first. That’s about once every 1-2 months.
The other one is my regular who I see once a week, but it’s a bit unusual because we message each other every day and do things together outside of the store.
I have a few of the stores on WeChat and if I want to see a girl, I just message them that way. Most of them are very responsive and if you’re a good customer you build credibility.

[stallionmachine123]

I ain’t giving no number to a WL or ain’t taking a number off them.

My regulars I know what day they working and I book beforehand with the shop.

That’s my regular contact with them.

[johncitizen]

Great insight once again Bravo.

[Abs90]

Hey guys,

Just curious about your experiences. Do you guys usually stay in contact with WLs after seeing them?

I went punting before and one WL asked for my number, so we kept in touch for a while. But with another WL, I asked for her number and she refused.

So now I’m a bit confused — is it normal for WLs to keep contact, or was my first case just rare?

Keen to hear what others have experienced.

It's no different from me working reception or manager, if I get the feeling you can be a regular at the shop, spend money and will be no trouble then yep I'm getting your number and saving your name, I might even shout you lunch at the pub next door afterwards and even send you a random text mid week to check in on you. I will also do this same thing with as many guys as I can. If I think you're not worth the time then I won't be getting your number. I become friends with a lot of them but at the end of the day it's still business.

[11Bravo]

Do WLs actually keep in touch after? My experience was… mixed
As you can see from the replies, it varies.

stallionmachine123 doesn't. johncitizen has a few. Myself, I have a number. Old habits die hard, can't teach an old dog new tricks, etc., etc., but I find it useful for my needs and uses. It's convenient dealing direct, and I've had no problems with it. Never had to block anyone.

Abs90 typifies the "other" side:

I become friends with a lot of them but at the end of the day it's still business.

I agree; bottom line, it's business associates. Understand the boundaries.

I'd also recommend WeChat for shop contacts. Many post rosters there. As johncitizen says, it helps when you build credibility and are known with a shop (again, for better or worse). Just good business to take care of your good customers.

Just ask yourself if you'll want to see her again, and how important is having the convenience of a direct contact. Not all will provide, but I just figure if she will be a repeat it never hurts to ask. Whatever works for you.

[Fallinglove]

Mate most WLs give will give ya their contacts via either we chat, or others . I usually keep in touch with most of my regulars especially good to keep in touch with the K and J queens dirty talks and gets me in the mood. Then I go and plough them very hot .

[Double_Adapter]

Exchanging of contact details is not the issue here, it's what happens after contact details have been exchanged between said parties.

Not long ago, people used to hand out traditional business cards like fucken footy cards in a schoolyard. The purpose of exchanging contact details is simple: enable current or potential future business. That’s it - it ain't get any simpler than that!

The problem is that some cunts have completely misread the signal. They think if a WL/ML shares her contact details it implies a personal interest in him ie "she must be catching the feels for me" or “wow, she gave me her number, guess we’re basically dating now.” they treat it as a fucken invitation for a romantic and sexual relationship to develop...It’s not. It’s a fucken transactional, professional interaction.

If a chick gives you their contact details, it means:
“Here’s how to reach me for work.”
Not fucken:
“Text me at 10pm asking how my day was.”

Think about it - you hand out a bunch business cards to 50 potential clients.....then some cunt starts calling and texting you every fucken day, late at night including weekends with messages like;
"hi how's your day been"
"wanna catch up for coffee today"
"you free this weekend for lunch"
"miss you, when can i see you again"
"did you like the box of chocolates I sent you"

You wouldn’t see that as business. You’d see it as stalking, intrusive, inappropriate, and completely out of line.

That’s the point. The issue isn’t the exchange it’s the fucken assumption and behaviour that follows. Anything else is just some cunt confusing LinkedIn with Tinder/Grinder/RSVP.

[TheFullMonty]

I think every situation is slightly different. For many WL it’s purely transactional in that they want you to keep visiting them so hand nos out. For others it can be connection in that you get on as people together so they like to stay in touch for personal reasons, whatever they are. The main thing is being able identify which one it is, behave accordingly & in line with the wishes of the WL / ML as no one needs a stalker.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

Another simp thread.

[Meh]

Given a number? Yeah. We ended up spending a lot of time together - going to the gym, restaurants, and bars, hanging out at the beach, doing airport pickups and drop-offs. I had amazing time but it ended really bad.

Would I do this again if I could turn back time? You bet I would

[Meh]

But then again, there's a bright side. About a year ago, when I was frequenting SP, I had a really good time exchanging numbers and hanging out with some of the girls outside the shop. God, I'll never forget getting piss drunk with Carol at beer o'clock on Fridays, right there at the Waterloo shop :)

[Wank_Somemore]

If you like the girl who refused at first, see her a few more times. There is a higher chance she will give it to you once she's comfortable. The girls who give it to you on your first session is purely business.

I've had girls given me their tax file numbers to do their simple tax return. So who knows how much trust you can gain with them.

[GoldfishMan]

Another simp thread.

Damned straight bro lol!

[justincase]

I get a lot of numbers… from everyone. It’s what you do with them that matters. Some I never follow up as I just can’t be bothered.

Routinely I’ll block or delete if I deem them not worth my future time. During the punt there’s the game and the objective is to win the game. After that I think yeah nah.

Do you want to be subjected to supporting any female? Because one thing leads to another and that’s the end result. You’re their ATM.

Tell me me, how many ML’s or WL’s support a man? It’d be 1 in 1000 and let’s face it, it’s never going to be enough is it?

[Meh]

I get a lot of numbers… from everyone. It’s what you do with them that matters. Some I never follow up as I just can’t be bothered.

Routinely I’ll block or delete if I deem them not worth my future time. During the punt there’s the game and the objective is to win the game. After that I think yeah nah.

Do you want to be subjected to supporting any female? Because one thing leads to another and that’s the end result. You’re their ATM.

Tell me me, how many ML’s or WL’s support a man? It’d be 1 in 1000 and let’s face it, it’s never going to be enough is it?

That's a fair point, but it might not be the whole picture. From spending time with some SP and MAC girls in the past, I'd say many of them are just looking for a boyfriend - especially the younger ones. Sure, visas can be a factor, but often they're simply looking for someone to be with and rely on. After all - surprise, surprise - they're not so different from any other young woman, just in a much harsher environment.

[Sinkie]

What is the point of this? I don't see it. Unless you consider potential romantic interest, or sugaring.
Booking can be done through the shops.
I did this a couple times, but that was because I had a romantic interest in the ML, just to be frank. It didn't go anywhere as expected. This never crossed my mind with a WL.

[11Bravo]

What is the point of this? I don't see it. Unless you consider potential romantic interest, or sugaring.
Let me answer the question with a question: This thread has 2 pages. Why does this other thread have so many?
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?73635-WHERE-or-WHO-ARE-THEY-NOW

You know the ole cliche: one number of prevention can prevent 100+ pages of cure.


Booking can be done through the shops.
Without a doubt. But will a shop tell you that she's limited duty on your booking day? Tell you she's called in sick BEFORE you show up? That she's running late so you should adjust your arrival BEFORE you show up? That she didn't show up for work BEFORE you show up? When and where she'll be when she returns from vacation? IME, the shop has a vested interest in you being IN the shop before delivering bad news. When dealing direct, the vested interest is in giving you accurate info...

Just a matter of dealing directly with the supplier rather than a middleman. It's just BUSINESS.

YMMV.

[Double_Adapter]

Just a matter of dealing directly with the supplier rather than a middleman. It's just BUSINESS.

Supply Chain Mgmt 101

[Meh]

Without a doubt. But will a shop tell you that she's limited duty on your booking day? Tell you she's called in sick BEFORE you show up? That she's running late so you should adjust your arrival BEFORE you show up? That she didn't show up for work BEFORE you show up? When and where she'll be when she returns from vacation? IME, the shop has a vested interest in you being IN the shop before delivering bad news. When dealing direct, the vested interest is in giving you accurate info...



Well put. Your point about incentives and transparency really hits the mark - direct contact usually means more accurate info

[11Bravo]

Supply Chain Mgmt 101

Guess some enjoy dealing with marketeers with their promises and glitzy brochures rather than manufacturers of the actual product.

[justincase]

From spending time with some SP and MAC girls in the past, I’d say many of them are just looking for a boyfriend - especially the younger ones. Sure, visas can be a factor, but often they’re simply looking for someone to be with and rely on. After all - surprise, surprise - they’re not so different from any other young woman, just in a much harsher environment.

A boyfriend to do what? Rely on.

Why get involved?

I started helping people back in 1982… there’s a never ending stream of people that need to be helped one way or another…

Girlfriends their parents, their other siblings, relatives. Hell I used to pay one GF’s father a weekly retainer, can’t remember why but he got it and did nothing for it. Paid for his OS holidays too FFS.

Unless you need a “psychological crutch” then you’re better off not getting involved too deeply. Sure, dinner, drinks, entertainment and sex is fine but why get involved doing anything else?

When I date SW’s it’s usually good bye, here’s a present of some money go spend it on something now go away.

[DevilJin]

Recently started to see a WL outside and let me tell you they get a lot more hornier plus free sex. I think she wants to date but for me Fwb is good enough

[Sinkie]

Let me answer the question with a question: This thread has 2 pages. Why does this other thread have so many?
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?73635-WHERE-or-WHO-ARE-THEY-NOW

You know the ole cliche: one number of prevention can prevent 100+ pages of cure.


That thread is literally the epitome of simping. Chasing a girl when clearly she doesn't even give afuck about you. Did she message you about where she moved, or did you have to ask? Lol... Chill. It's a hard pill to swallow, I've been there too. Speaking from experience. If she's gone, simply book another girl. No one is irreplaceable unless you catch a feeling

[11Bravo]

That thread is literally the epitome of simping. Chasing a girl when clearly she doesn't even give afuck about you. Did she message you about where she moved, or did you have to ask? Lol... Chill. It's a hard pill to swallow, I've been there too. Speaking from experience. If she's gone, simply book another girl. No one is irreplaceable unless you catch a feeling
Agree.

When you have her direct contact, no need to whine and whimper. You just ask her yourself. Easy Peasy. You get an answer, or you understand no answer is an answer. Sure beats the shops that keep all the departed on their websites for page + page + page scrolling. When you ask the shop, it's "she's on vacation, she'll return... ah, not certain exactly when." Right...

Maybe "she" doesn't give a fuck about you, or maybe "she" respects you enough to understand no need to break radio silence until a sitrep is requested.

No hard pill; no swallowing required. As any expat KNOWS, that time does come, and you just wish them well as they move on.

And yes, no one is irreplaceable. You say "caught a feeling", I say "delusional", unable to distinguish between your (2nd person plural) fantasy and reality.

Full disclosure: I did chase one stunner I'd known for years when I found that her chats had disappeared when I tried to ping her. When I was BOTG, did take that long, lonely walk to her shop, hoping that one of her co-workers might acknowledge me, provide some intel. You know, sometimes the punting Gods smile on you. Nice FR on ISG; for here, TL/DR for many. But some are just worth it.

[ColesBag]

It's good business to maintain occasional contact with a client.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

This is the thread that inspired me to create the simp thread, to trigger and weed out the weak cunts.

[rubicon]

I've exchanged a few numbers over time but in reality it has been a fairly pointless exercise. It seemed to happen on the spur of the moment in the room but afterwards I couldn't work out exactly why!

[1inchguy]

Let me answer the question with a question: This thread has 2 pages. Why does this other thread have so many?
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?73635-WHERE-or-WHO-ARE-THEY-NOW

You know the ole cliche: one number of prevention can prevent 100+ pages of cure.


Without a doubt. But will a shop tell you that she's limited duty on your booking day? Tell you she's called in sick BEFORE you show up? That she's running late so you should adjust your arrival BEFORE you show up? That she didn't show up for work BEFORE you show up? When and where she'll be when she returns from vacation? IME, the shop has a vested interest in you being IN the shop before delivering bad news. When dealing direct, the vested interest is in giving you accurate info...

Just a matter of dealing directly with the supplier rather than a middleman. It's just BUSINESS.

YMMV.

This
I rather get direct info with the girl I want to see than to speak to the shop. Prior before getting the girls number. I book through the shop and the girl isnt there.. or its double book, the girl even knows about it. Eventually she gave me her number to make booking easier.

Sometimes she sends me videos of herself which is a plus

[11Bravo]

Well, it was time to [you say casual chat | I say ping] several providers. IYKYK. One of the replies I got back had me LOL, and a day later, still makes me smile. And these days, a good laugh a nice change from current events.

[TheFinger]

Years ago I exchaned emails with a few WLs, wasn't a regular but would email them when I was after a good fucking. They were always happy to have me back...

[HiredGoon]

If they want to keep in touch they will. If they don't they won't.
Simple as that.

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

If they want to keep in touch they will. If they don't they won't.
Simple as that.

Yeah Goon, simp-le as that.

[ergoproxy]

Not always. I was asked for my contacts by 2 of my regulars. One of them wanted to walk my dogs 😂 the other one, asked me out for drinks.

Much like what has been mentioned above, I’ve only ever contacted them for their availability for the week/weeks ahead.

[11Bravo]

If they want to keep in touch they will. If they don't they won't.
Simple as that.Yep. Seems a no brainer when a number of members here complain about dud punts, asking where the good ones are. With contacts, you just help yourself.

On the other hand, we all have different standards. Guess if yours is "has a pulse", keeping contacts might be a bit overwhelming.

I'm not concerned at all about looks or service, happy with a starfish. Just want to fuck them. Like them, filthy and on the cheap.
Mid-life crisis?

[11Bravo]

Not always. I was asked for my contacts by 2 of my regulars. One of them wanted to walk my dogs 😂 the other one, asked me out for drinks.
Much like what has been mentioned above, I’ve only ever contacted them for their availability for the week/weeks ahead.Well, as usual, there's a thread for that:
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?159167-WTF-boundaries-reconfirmed

[HiredGoon]

Yeah Goon, simp-le as that.

Lol, I see what you did there 😄
You know every mention of the word simp is a point off your alpha card though right?

[AUSSIEHOTGUY]

Lol, I see what you did there ��
You know every mention of the word simp is a point off your alpha card though right?

Check out my latest thread. I fully expect your contribution.

[11Bravo]

Not always. I was asked for my contacts by 2 of my regulars. One of them wanted to walk my dogs �� the other one, asked me out for drinks. I'd definitely be cautious of the former. Any Asian making that offer, I'd make sure of the spelling. Walk or wok - major difference. :startle:

[ergoproxy]

I'd definitely be cautious of the former. Any Asian making that offer, I'd make sure of the spelling. Walk or wok - major difference. :startle:

Oh god hahahahahaha. Thanks for that great reminder.

[HiredGoon]

Check out my latest thread. I fully expect your contribution.

Well done for not using the word simp. Lots of gay hate though and we all know what that means…

[HiredGoon]

I'd definitely be cautious of the former. Any Asian making that offer, I'd make sure of the spelling. Walk or wok - major difference. :startle:

Insert eye roll here