Fight of the Century! Mayweather vs Pacquiao

[illidanstormrage]

So I figure most punters would have something on the fight tomorrow. Who have you got?

I think Manny can do it I got him for $150 at 2.80 odds on Sportsbet.

[jetlyf]

I think Manny would have to knock floyd down at least once if he wants to win.
I can't see Manny winning with points alone.

[wilisno]

I don't like the cocky Mayweather, but I still think he will win ! Judging from his last few fights, Pacquiao is not as sharp as he was 3 years ago !

[rooter]

At his peak Manny would have taken out Mayweather, but Manny is past his peak.
Even though he is 2 years younger than Mayweather, he has effectively been in semi retirement for many years now pursuing a career as an actor and politician.
As much as I would love to see Manny punch the shit out of the arrogant, woman beater scum Mayweather, I can't see it happening

[wilisno]

At his peak Manny would have taken out Mayweather, but Manny is past his peak.
Even though he is 2 years younger than Mayweather, he has effectively been in semi retirement for many years now pursuing a career as an actor and politician.
As much as I would love to see Manny punch the shit out of the arrogant, woman bashing scum Mayweather, I can't see it happening
Yep ! The way Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto, I reckon he could beat anybody then !

[Bazzladance69]

Unfortunately we are talking. about Las Vegas, it is so corrupt
Given the fact that Mayweather is there golden boy hard to see him get beat ,
It's a win win for both fighters
150million each

[wilisno]

Not sure he can handle our

QUEEN:miao:
Queen can retire after seeing him ! The guy carries a million dollars in cash whenever he goes shopping !

[wilisno]

Unfortunately we are talking. about Las Vegas, it is so corrupt
Given the fact that Mayweather is there golden boy hard to see him get beat ,
It's a win win for both fighters
150million each
That's why I rarely watch boxing these days, I'd rather watch UFC !

[jellyshots]

Manny can do it if he gets Mayweather on the ropes. He has a high punch rate so could pretty much go to town. I think Floyd has to jab to keep his distance but he also drops his guard when he does it and Manny, being a southpaw could hook or left cross. It'll be a great one to watch :)

[Miyamoto]

My heart says pacman, my head says Maywether. Manny will have to KO him cold. There was a fight where Maywether got rocked by a good shot and the ref immediately jumped in to stop him taking anymore, allowing him to recover.

[jetlyf]

My heart says pacman, my head says Maywether. Manny will have to KO him cold. There was a fight where Maywether got rocked by a good shot and the ref immediately jumped in to stop him taking anymore, allowing him to recover.

the judges will probably rule towards mayweather in points if pacman doesn't knock him out

[harmony]

I have a hard time treating seriously any contest where the contestants have decided beforehand what their prize money is going to be

Yes yes I know that negotiations have been going on for years, and that there is lucrative pay per view money on offer. Money ... money ... money.

But...

Since when did this become acceptable in sport, both contestants agreeing beforehand who wins what money ?

Im sorry, but I make an early call for problems here, including one fighter throwing in the towel early, or a number of other possibilities

I suppose these days it will become acceptable for one guy to find ways to stop the fight early, if its clear that he is NOT going to win the other guys Championship belts
For example, the staff in his corner making his facial cuts bleed, or many other variations

People are paying more than $200 000, for actual seats, expecting a good contest. We will soon see...

I have great respect for boxers, a lot of boxers never find success, so I will applaud if we get a good fight, including if both boxers can go the distance, or provide a clear cut win.

[sukeong]

Some good analysis here but where is everyone watch this? I'm assuming some don't have main event

PS. Heart wants pacman to beat the crap out of the serial woman assaulter but I think the latter does what he does best. Adapt and outthink/outfight his opponent to win by points

[cisco]

Anyone thing this match is fair ? One on defense n the other one keep throwing a punch ? I think manny is a truly figther , sorry may you are good but not a fighter , thats what i think n see :)

[rooter]

Mayweather has a superb defence and is very hard to hit.
He is as slippery as an eel.
A lot of good fighters have simply not been able to land clean punches on him.
He isn't much of a puncher and wins nearly all his fights by points decisions.
For this reason I don't rate him as one of the all time greats.
Mayweather is lucky that he faced both Manny and De La Hoya when they were past their peak.
Manny especially at his peak would have had the speed power and stamina to land punches on him and knock him out.
Mayweather is a woman beater and an arrogant arsehole, and I really wish Manny had punched his lights out.
But you have to give him some credit; at least he won't end up like so many boxers broke and destitute and ripped off by promoters and other parasites.
He has taken control of his career and finances and will retire a very rich man.

[wilisno]

Well ! That just paved the way for a re-match, another 150 million dollars in the bank ! ;) ;) ;)

[rooter]

Well ! That just paved the way for a re-match, another 150 million dollars in the bank ! ;) ;) ;)

True!
I think both fighters really wanted a clear win.
And Manny especially really was going for the KO but just couldn't land a clean punch on Floyd.
But you do tend to think that at the back of their mind once it got to around the 8th Round and neither fighter had gone down they were thinking "lets just go the distance, no disgrace in losing a points decision, and it does open it up for a re-match and another $100 million"

[harmony]

Yep, I watched the fight at a local bar, and my worries were confirmed
Mayweather has confirmed his paycheck before the fight. Now all he had to do was not get knocked out, and his legacy is preserved
The fight was good at times, but for the majority of the time, particularly the last round, Mayweather was more evasive than committal

As one of my friends commented: "It was 12 rounds of light sparring"

I read today that Mayweather does box like that, not really offering a spectacle, and not getting into sustained close exchanges
Made for a very boring boxing match overall
Lets face it, for any foreigner to win in the USA against a USA fighter, you will have to knock the USA fighter out. No less.
Pacquiao felt he had won the fight, but again, to win someones championship belts, you have to knock him down.

Oh for the days when we had men of charisma, and men with true punching power, dominating the headlines, and the boxing canvass
As with all sports, there are peaks and troughs of exciting superstars, and the ageing boxers yesterday are drawcards, but not entertainers any more.
I doubt that was the boxing match of the Century in fight quality terms

But congratulations to both Mayweather and Pacquiao.
You are the flagbearers in the welterweight division, and thus earnt the paychecks that a major bout generates
In addition, congrats for maintaining your physiques and conditioning for more than 20 years, despite the temptations of a glamourous lifestyle and the hangers-on
That takes a mountain of discipline, commitment and drive.
Amazing.
Respect.

My 2 cents only

[harmony]

Great article which breaks down the scorecard:


To casual observers, Pacquiao’s view was on the money
He was the aggressor for much of the fight.
He landed the heaviest blows.

But that’s not how boxing works.

Its a numbers game

For 48 fights now, Mayweather has picked off opponents time and again in essentially the same manner.

One of the greatest counter-punchers the sport has seen, his first priority is defence.
His second priority is also defence.

When he throws a punch, he makes it count.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEDoyI8UgAATtI9.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEFWk6SW8AAT3hN.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/floyd-mayweathers-victory-explained/story-fndkzthy-1227333953802

[AHLUNGOR]

The split of the prize money should always be decided by winning the match !

What was the total prize money again ? $300 millions or something like that ?

If the winner can take $200M and the loser $100M, I think we had a better chance of a fairer fight won't you think?

Sorry, I don't follow boxing, just a thought !

From the news, at the end of round 12, the Filipino guy thought he had won too, perhaps a draw is more appropriate ?

[harmony]

A photo from the fight, brought about by Photoshop trickery, no doubt

Trainer Applies Fresh $100 Bill To Floyd Mayweather’s Bleeding Eyelid
http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/5006/6/original/960.jpg

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/trainer-applies-fresh-100-bill-floyd-mayweathers-b-50329

[wilisno]

The split of the prize money should always be decided by winning the match !

What was the total prize money again ? $300 millions or something like that ?

If the winner can take $200M and the loser $100M, I think we had a better chance of a fairer fight won't you think?

Sorry, I don't follow boxing, just a thought !

From the news, at the end of round 12, the Filipino guy thought he had won too, perhaps a draw is more appropriate ?
The split is not the prize money, it's a price negotiated by the boxers and the promoter. It's business, if the promoter doesn't think the fight could generate that much income, he won't make the offer. That's why they kept postponing it to generate more interest, if it happened 5 years ago, it wouldn't have exceeded 50 million dollars !

[rooter]

Manny v Money ;)

[Azzkikr]

The split is not the prize money, it's a price negotiated by the boxers and the promoter. It's business, if the promoter doesn't think the fight could generate that much income, he won't make the offer. That's why they kept postponing it to generate more interest, if it happened 5 years ago, it wouldn't have exceeded 50 million dollars !

The hype and prize was bigger 5 years ago had it happened thEn. It was guaranteed at least $100 million or more back then but then again that's what they say. And a quick rematch would have generated more. Simply because the two fighters were in their prime and the interest was at its peak. The hype and interest now wasn't as big as it was 5 years ago simply because people just got tired of waiting and waiting. Sure there was still hype and interest just not as much as it could have been 5 yrs ago. The promoters knew this and income wasn't a problem, but they just couldn't agree on terms and everyone knew that Floyd was ducking Manny and waited till he slowed down a bit and KO by Marqyez. Smart move on Floyds part. There have been many docos and interviews about what caused the 5yr delay and it had nothing to do with money as the money "was there". Overall the fight didn't quite live up to the hype and the projected pay per view incomes have yet to be finalised to see if it even reached the predicted $$$$$.

[harmony]

"But I want rematch!!! Lol"
Are you joking bro ?

"For 48 fights now, Mayweather has picked off opponents time and again in essentially the same manner.
One of the greatest counter-punchers the sport has seen, his first priority is defence.
His second priority is also defence."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/floyd-mayweathers-victory-explained/story-fndkzthy-1227333953802

What I want, is the emergence of interesting combatative fighters
So we dont have to wait 5 years between interesting, world stopping fights.
Fighters who bring charisma, charm, power, but most importantly, entertainment

All respect, but yesterdays fight, was not worth the wait.
To spend another hour watching those two fight again ?

Because Mayweather just needs to be evasive once more, and avoid being knocked out, to retain his titles

No thanks !
Next !

[wilisno]

Exactly!! Couldn't agree more. Even if they purposely milking it for 5 years. That's too long and yes people would have just got frustrated with the whole cat and mouse situation that they lost interest. Anyway it happened so be happy. But I want rematch!!! Lol
It has been proven the postponement works whatever you think ! ;) ;) ;)

[H3da]

Tbh, the match wasn't as expecting as I thought it would be

[harmony]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-leads-criticism-mayweather-5628264

Mike Tyson leads criticism of Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight labelling it "underwhelming"

Mike Tyson has led the criticism of Floyd Mayweather's functional victory over Manny Pacquiao (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-fight-report-5627628), labelling the fight 'underwhelming'.
The always-outspoken former heavyweight champion of the world took to Twitter following the fight to tweet his disappointment for the long-awaited fight.
"We waited 5 years for the that... #underwhelmed", he posted to the social network.

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/05/03/1227332/516801-856247ce-f11b-11e4-845d-5939ce041631.jpg

Underwhelming: Mike Tyson was not impressed

[harmony]

I long for the days when we knew the name of the current Heavyweight Champion

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/24/mike-tyson-greatest-fights-fear-factor

Mike Tyson's greatest hits: the fights that made him feared

Here are six fights that earned Iron Mike a reputation that could make opponents wilt even before they entered the ring

http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-700/h--/q-95/sys-images/Sport/Pix/columnists/2014/1/24/1390576926544/Mike-Tyson-010.jpg

Hector Mercedes, TKO, 1st round, 6 March 1985, Albany

In his debut as a professional Mike Tyson's aggression gave the Puerto Rican no chance
The debutant threw power combinations at his opponent before sending Mercedes down on one knee
The opponent gave up after just 1min 47sec, leading to Tyson's first knock out and win as a professional

Donnie Long, KO 1st round, 9 Oct 1985, Atlantic City

Tyson's ninth straight win and ninth straight KO in six months as a pro
As always Tyson started aggressively and threw punches to the head, sending Long down after 37 seconds
Despite coming back, Long was sent to his knees twice before the referee waved an end to the bout after 1m 28s
Long said afterwards: "I remember going to the fight, and I remember waking up in the hospital"

Eddie Richardson, KO 1st round, 13 November 1985, Houston

Tyson's winning streak continued, the fight over after 1m 17 seconds
One broadcaster said after the match: "I see right now a major flaw in Mike Tyson's career, and that's going to be to have a fight that lasts long enough to get some good footage on"

Trevor Berbick, TKO 2nd round 22 Nov 86

Tyson's first world title fight against Trevor Berbick
Despite meeting a more experienced Berbick, Mike "Kid Dynamite" Tyson went in confident of victory: "I'll win the title as surely as Tuesday follows Monday."
He only needed two rounds before sending the Jamaican to the mat after 2m 35s for his 26th straight win, earning the WBC belt as the youngest heavyweight champion in history, aged 20 years, four months

Tony Tucker, 12 rounds 1 Aug 1987

Tyson and Tucker both went into the fight unbeaten, Tyson with 27 KOs in 30 fights and Tuckers 29 in 34
The bout went the distance but, after landing 216 of his 412 punches, Tyson became the undisputed world champion

Michael Spinks, KO 1st round 27 Jun 1988

At the time this was the richest fight in history, but it was all over after 91 seconds when Tyson knocked Spinks out in the first round. This fight is considered by many to be the highest point of Tyson's career and achievements. Spinks, previously unbeaten, would never fight professionally again


TYSON IS THE YOUNGEST HEAVYWEIGHT BOXER IN HISTORY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJA9qu1Fr0

Tyson in this bout in 1986 was the challenger, and had it all to do, to beat a very determined World Champion, Trevor Berbick

With a dominant display of power fighting, Tyson won the Heavyweight Championship of the World, and the youngest in history to do it, at age 20

Mike Tyson was able to ignore the points system, and just win by domination, then knock out

The fight starts at 6 minutes, with the concluding stages of the bout at the 13 minutes mark


People used to value the really big Title Fights, as a chance to witness power, and decisive results

[zorsty]

Random but... 4g63t, what u running under ur hood? Lol
My evo needs a snail upgrade

[amigo]

That wasn't a fair fight pacquiao's right arm was injured according to the news, that's why couldn't perform at he's peak

[jellyshots]

Manny doesn't make any excuses for it. In the long run, he maintained his reputation for being a tenacious competitor. Mayweather, regardless of whether he has one or two more fights and retires undefeated will still be remembered as the guy who hits women and runs from guys like Manny.

Manny was like a hunter who just didn't get enough momentum to chase down his prey. Big deal, he goes hungry. I doubt Mayweather will have the guts to do a rematch. If Manny took it that close injured, how much different would it have been if he wasn't?

I suspect that when Mayweather does retire and leave the title open, someone like Manny will just come along and snap it up.

Now to throw a great fight into the mix...

Kostya Tszyu vs Zab Judah. Zab was fast, accurate and in the first round ducked, weaved and landed a lot of clean punches. Round 2 was very different and Kostya started to use his jab to peg Zab down. Controversial ending but he pretty much cold clocked Zab who had his hands down.

[wilisno]

Manny doesn't make any excuses for it. In the long run, he maintained his reputation for being a tenacious competitor. Mayweather, regardless of whether he has one or two more fights and retires undefeated will still be remembered as the guy who hits women and runs from guys like Manny.

Manny was like a hunter who just didn't get enough momentum to chase down his prey. Big deal, he goes hungry. I doubt Mayweather will have the guts to do a rematch. If Manny took it that close injured, how much different would it have been if he wasn't?

I suspect that when Mayweather does retire and leave the title open, someone like Manny will just come along and snap it up.

Now to throw a great fight into the mix...

Kostya Tszyu vs Zab Judah. Zab was fast, accurate and in the first round ducked, weaved and landed a lot of clean punches. Round 2 was very different and Kostya started to use his jab to peg Zab down. Controversial ending but he pretty much cold clocked Zab who had his hands down.
The Kostya Tszyu vs Zab Judah fight wasn't controversial at all ! If the ref didn't stop the fight, the only outcome would be Zab Judah would receive more punishment or even knocked out cold !

[zorsty]

Nice!! Iv got the same plus few extras fp green turbo but its on its way out :(
Only managed a 225kw on 24psi from last dyno day. Tuned 9 turbo got just as much!

U def need to upgrade ur dump/front to 3" too.. iv got a maperformance screamer dump, music to your ears!!


You drive an Evo too? Nice!
Lol my mods are:

- hot side pipe upgrade
- front pipe upgrade
- catback system upgrade 3"
- ECU flash
- boost increase to 22/24PSI
- Exedy sports clutch upgrade(heavy clutch)+flywheel
- Carbon Fibre front lip
That's bout it. It's only "light" mods compared to what can be done to it. Haven't dyno'd it yet so I don't know how much power it's making but I'm guessing 200/220kw
Next is the wheels :)

[Miyamoto]

Harmony, if you want interesting, combative fighters, watch Conor McGregor on UFC

[jellyshots]

Now this this is interesting...

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-replay-tells-another-story/

[cisco]

if those 3 judges not from usa then it will be fair :)

[harmony]

The Thriller In Manilla
Wednesday, October 1, 1975

Documentary details:
"The Thriller in Manila was the greatest fight of all time.
It was the third and final confrontation between Joe Frazier and Mohammed Ali, two men who hated each other.
It was a personal hatred born out of the explosive racial politics of 1970s America.
Yet, eight years earlier, these two men had been friends"

SMH documentary
http://www.smh.com.au/tv/sport/thriller-in-manila-4302552.html

The actual fight, in full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahEjU-BFS8c