Falling in love with WLs

[Ads890]

Just found out my On/Off Thai Gf for the better part
of 4yrs has been Offering much more than just
Therapeutic massages to customers. Strangely Im
the Cunt for accuse her do - quoting her own words -
shit work like that.
So present her with 3 photos recently advertised in
Sydney. After 4 years be very intimate with this girl
even with face covered or blurred in 1/3 photos.
Her birthday suit alone is enough for positive id.
The other 2/3 photos are clear face photos and no
attempt to hide her identity but still she strongly
denies any wrong doing.
And I agree.. if this is what she wants to do and she
do so safely. Go for it Sweetheart.
Im sure I'm not the 1st and definitely won't be the
last guy to fall head over heels with WL claiming
only to be ML...BUT .. with all the lies told to family
back in Thailand or friends, bfs or even husbands.

Honesty and respect is key people.
Treat all people. The same way you wish to be treated.

[itouch]

You may be right only if you can give her enough money to quit her job.

[jzchan]

Just found out my On/Off Thai Gf for the better part
of 4yrs has been Offering much more than just
Therapeutic massages to customers. Strangely Im
the Cunt for accuse her do - quoting her own words -
shit work like that.
So present her with 3 photos recently advertised in
Sydney. After 4 years be very intimate with this girl
even with face covered or blurred in 1/3 photos.
Her birthday suit alone is enough for positive id.
The other 2/3 photos are clear face photos and no
attempt to hide her identity but still she strongly
denies any wrong doing.
And I agree.. if this is what she wants to do and she
do so safely. Go for it Sweetheart.
Im sure I'm not the 1st and definitely won't be the
last guy to fall head over heels with WL claiming
only to be ML...BUT .. with all the lies told to family
back in Thailand or friends, bfs or even husbands.

Honesty and respect is key people.
Treat all people. The same way you wish to be treated.

Not sure we understand your post dude. So you are ok with it? Or you are upset?

No right or wrong answers, just quite confused by your first post.

As the other member said, unless you are rich enough to support her completely, why stress? It’s just her job. What you guys might have might be another type of ‘special’ lol. No judgement, we are all paying for it one way or another. That’s just a fact of life with women.

[GoldfishMan]

Which shop and which girl? I'll go talk some sense into her for you.

[rooter]

She is a sex worker. She sells her body for money.
That's what she does. It's like complaining that water is wet.

[paulgallen]

Its good to blow off some steam as your 1st post ! It really sux when your gf is doing extras for others

[Idkfa]

What's the plan bro? Ginza?

[Riff888]

If you cannot support her financial needs whatever they may be then you can't expect her to stop.

Just accept it and try not to read into other guy's ARs too much.

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[footboy2012]

Honesty and respect is key people.
Treat all people. The same way you wish to be treated.

I think this is all you need.

Extremely disrespectful to do that.

I would move the fuck along - I know it's easier said than done, but think with your brain and not emotions here.

[tpol]

And don't go reading the bareback with wl thread or ml eating my arse thread

[rooter]

Its totally OK to fall in love with a WL or ML.
In fact I would encourage every punter to fall madly, deeply, head over heels, crazy in love with a WL/ML.
But ... and this is a very big butt, bigger than Nikki Minaj's, Beyonce's, and Kim Kardashian's butt, you have to be emotionally prepared to fall out of love with a WL.
Falling out of love is as important as falling in love!
Enjoy brothers! Enjoy!
I have been saying the same thing for 8 years on this forum, but basically the simple rule is Pay. Fuck. Leave!
But that's not a cold clinical monetary attitude.
No! No way!
You go into a punt a nd give a girl your heart and soul and treat her like the queen of the universe, because for that brief hour she is.
But then you walk away, and she doesnt exist anymore, and that person you were with her during that crazy hour doesn't exist anymore.

[theusual]

It seems like a logical thing to just forget these forums exist while seeing a WL. Hell, even if she is a friend, just don't look at her ARs. It'll break your brain.

[PervySage]

And don't go reading the bareback with wl thread or ml eating my arse thread

Or what is the best time to see a WL / ML thread....

Cos you are seeing her at end of day...

[PervySage]

Hey OP (ads890) Are you the guy who discovered Nikki from seven hills is now going FS..

Just curious.. apologies if u r not!

[goodbloke]

lol. There's a saying your reality is what you believe to be true. if you believe that the WL don't exist after the session. Then she dosen't exist for you after the session in your reality . I had many WL exist after the sessions.

[liminal]

So u need to come to this forum to post, what ?

Must be Sunday night again

[cuteguy]

Many girls from overseas are here to make money to send back to their families. While many here go from one low paid job to another to make ends to pay for their college fees and help their families back home, others work in the sex industry to make large sums of money. It's a fact that many will tell lies about what they do in order to keep it a secret. This is why many guys get burnt in the end because it comes as a shock that their lovely caring and affectionate girlfriend was giving herself to many other guys in return for more money. This is why it's best not to date such girls nor have a serious relationship with them.

[bigfatkilo]

I'll go see her and she will either fall in love with me or realise how lucky she is to have you

[Andrewwoody]

I "saw" a fairly high class ML for about 7 months. We met through mutual friends, had a brief fling but then she never returned my messages (I am married, which she knew). Then bumped into her about six months later when she had just started working as a ML, and she suggested we met at the parlour to be discreet. We did this for about 5 months, each time spending a few hours at the parlour, drinking wine, having dinner and eventually a massage, which after a couple of bookings turned into much more. It was the most expensive date in Sydney, but I enjoyed it and could afford it.

These experiences were interspersed with some genuine dates and I never really knew whether she was genuinely interested or just wanted a regular source of cash. There was never any chance of it becoming a serious relationship - there was a 16 year age different - but it made me feel unbelievably alive. One day I told her I loved her and she went absolutely mental, and later blocked my number. I've not seen her since. I've not been back to the parlour since then either.

The whole experience probably cost me $15-20k. I'm sure her motives were almost entirely financial, but I had a lot of fun, and in the end it's only money.

I'm a bit wiser now, and would not do something like it again, but have no regrets.

[liminal]

I "saw" a fairly high class ML for about 7 months. We met through mutual friends, had a brief fling but then she never returned my messages (I am married, which she knew). Then bumped into her about six months later when she had just started working as a ML, and she suggested we met at the parlour to be discreet. We did this for about 5 months, each time spending a few hours at the parlour, drinking wine, having dinner and eventually a massage, which after a couple of bookings turned into much more. It was the most expensive date in Sydney, but I enjoyed it and could afford it.

These experiences were interspersed with some genuine dates and I never really knew whether she was genuinely interested or just wanted a regular source of cash. There was never any chance of it becoming a serious relationship - there was a 16 year age different - but it made me feel unbelievably alive. One day I told her I loved her and she went absolutely mental, and later blocked my number. I've not seen her since. I've not been back to the parlour since then either.

The whole experience probably cost me $15-20k. I'm sure her motives were almost entirely financial, but I had a lot of fun, and in the end it's only money.

I'm a bit wiser now, and would not do something like it again, but have no regrets.

Awww. Sad story bro which high class parlour was this

[Sneaky castro]

I do not have a problem falling in love with WL. I don't really understand this. I thought the point of going to a parlour was to leave your emotions behind and just fuck like rabbits and leave. No strings attached.

[quagmire]

I fall in love with them all the time, but then I remember the words of my teacher (master one hung lo)
"Locust" he would say "the wise punter does not pay for the hooker to stay, he pays for her to leave"

[manjuice333]

I did it recently, had a relationship with a ML which didn't end too well for me lol.

Wouldn't recommend it.

[aussiegaigin]

I did it recently, had a relationship with a ML which didn't end too well for me lol.

Wouldn't recommend it.

Many guys have this problem with women who aren't MLs or WLs.

[warwick1]

I fall in love with them all the time, but then I remember the words of my teacher (master one hung lo)
"Locust" he would say "the wise punter does not pay for the hooker to stay, he pays for her to leave"

I heard Charlie Sheen say that.......

[warwick1]

Awww. Sad story bro which high class parlour was this

"High class parlour" , classic oxymoron....................

[manjuice333]

Many guys have this problem with women who aren't MLs or WLs.

This too I know as I’m also married, which is why it didn’t end too well for me hahaha but that is another story..

[AHLUNGOR]

I "saw" a fairly high class ML for about 7 months. We met through mutual friends, had a brief fling but then she never returned my messages (I am married, which she knew). Then bumped into her about six months later when she had just started working as a ML, and she suggested we met at the parlour to be discreet. We did this for about 5 months, each time spending a few hours at the parlour, drinking wine, having dinner and eventually a massage, which after a couple of bookings turned into much more. It was the most expensive date in Sydney, but I enjoyed it and could afford it.

These experiences were interspersed with some genuine dates and I never really knew whether she was genuinely interested or just wanted a regular source of cash. There was never any chance of it becoming a serious relationship - there was a 16 year age different - but it made me feel unbelievably alive. One day I told her I loved her and she went absolutely mental, and later blocked my number. I've not seen her since. I've not been back to the parlour since then either.

The whole experience probably cost me $15-20k. I'm sure her motives were almost entirely financial, but I had a lot of fun, and in the end it's only money.

I'm a bit wiser now, and would not do something like it again, but have no regrets.


So, it’s a bit like a sugar daddy case, if you can afford it, and it didn’t ruin your marriage, and made you feel great and Alive ! Why not !

Good on you !

Cheers

[krnboy]

I do not have a problem falling in love with WL. I don't really understand this. I thought the point of going to a parlour was to leave your emotions behind and just fuck like rabbits and leave. No strings attached.

Some people can be emotionally unstable and can fall in love easily.

[manjuice333]

Some people can be emotionally unstable and can fall in love easily.

It’s happening to me right now.. Damn Jap girls got me again!!

[Labia Vortex]

When I become a little too comfortable with a WL I know it's the beginning of an Alice down the rabbit hole experience and I back off
Too complicated....I want/ need simple in my life

[rooter]

Falling in love is not a problem, as long as you can fall out of love.

[Raybo]

I love them all, then time is up, I leave and life returns to normal.

[cato]

Just found out my On/Off Thai Gf for the better part
of 4yrs has been Offering much more than just
Therapeutic massages to customers. Strangely Im
the Cunt for accuse her do - quoting her own words -
shit work like that.
So present her with 3 photos recently advertised in
Sydney. After 4 years be very intimate with this girl
even with face covered or blurred in 1/3 photos.
Her birthday suit alone is enough for positive id.
The other 2/3 photos are clear face photos and no
attempt to hide her identity but still she strongly
denies any wrong doing.
And I agree.. if this is what she wants to do and she
do so safely. Go for it Sweetheart.
Im sure I'm not the 1st and definitely won't be the
last guy to fall head over heels with WL claiming
only to be ML...BUT .. with all the lies told to family
back in Thailand or friends, bfs or even husbands.

Honesty and respect is key people.
Treat all people. The same way you wish to be treated.

Can I ask: when you say 'therapeutic massages to customers' do you mean she used to work in a totally legit massage shop, or were there happy endings involved?

[rooter]

I think I will add a new stanza to my classic mantra.
Pay. Fuck. Love. Leave.

[asiafever]

https://youtu.be/r8MhDEOswo8

Be like Tommy here.

[asiafever]

It’s happening to me right now.. Damn Jap girls got me again!!

Duuuuude.
No.
Say it ain't so.
I thought you got out.
You were my beacon of hope. I've been holding strong thinking "My man manjuice can do It, so can I!"
Now I see this, and within 20 minutes I'm looking to book privates while texting the 22 year old ex and wanting to message a certain Viet massage establishment....
I'm in relapse!


But yeah, Jap girls will do that to you...

[woods23]

Some people can be emotionally unstable and can fall in love easily.

Yep. I Once I saw this girl she was extremely cute nd gfe. 20mins later I told her " I'm in love with you " she just laughs thinking I'm lying but I wasn't ;)

[sporty32]

Which shop and which girl? I'll go talk some sense into her for you.

Ouch !!! that was a low blow !!!

[manjuice333]

Duuuuude.
No.
Say it ain't so.
I thought you got out.
You were my beacon of hope. I've been holding strong thinking "My man manjuice can do It, so can I!"
Now I see this, and within 20 minutes I'm looking to book privates while texting the 22 year old ex and wanting to message a certain Viet massage establishment....
I'm in relapse!


But yeah, Jap girls will do that to you...

lol mate, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak! Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.

If I'm a beacon of anything it is sexual addiction and despair, not hope. Did I say that out loud..?

lol relapse indeed! I wanted to check out this Jap girl and got hooked after the first visit.

[asiafever]

lol mate, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak! Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.

If I'm a beacon of anything it is sexual addiction and despair, not hope. Did I say that out loud..?

lol relapse indeed! I wanted to check out this Jap girl and got hooked after the first visit.

I can't blame you, I have the self restraint of an untrained labradoodle... as well as affectionate as an untrained labradoodle... Which I guess makes me one of those "easy to fall in love with someone" type people... slash labradoodle...
Hence my 2-3 visit policy. It just makes my life easier.
There have been exceptions where I've seen a girl dozens of times and had no thought of anything other than our sessions, but if I've recognised a trend in my behaviour then best not to push it.

[manjuice333]

I can't blame you, I have the self restraint of an untrained labradoodle... as well as affectionate as an untrained labradoodle... Which I guess makes me one of those "easy to fall in love with someone" type people... slash labradoodle...
Hence my 2-3 visit policy. It just makes my life easier.
There have been exceptions where I've seen a girl dozens of times and had no thought of anything other than our sessions, but if I've recognised a trend in my behaviour then best not to push it.

lol I’m slipping again, this Jap girl.. I think part of the reason is she reminds me of the last one and the other is I have enjoyed being inside this girl perhaps more than any other I can think of. It’s a powerful drug. I’m truly a ‘crack’ addict.

I know exactly what you mean mate. I’ve had heaps of girls I return to as regulars cause I like my sessions with them, and usually their anatomical structure lol, but there’s no attachment.

Anyway, I’m chasing the new one. She hasn’t said no yet. In fact, she agreed to a date but it’s been hard to pin her down.

I might relent for now.

[niva321]

I fell really hard for a WL a while back. I question what went on between myself and her but during that time I was a bit depressed and the attention was addicting.

I can say now I have a healthy relationship with a wholesome good girl. And making progress in various areas helped build my confidence and now I think I’d be immune to the charms of a WL chasing me outside the shop.

[harrycd]

I can't blame you, I have the self restraint of an untrained labradoodle... as well as affectionate as an untrained labradoodle... Which I guess makes me one of those "easy to fall in love with someone" type people... slash labradoodle...
Hence my 2-3 visit policy. It just makes my life easier.
There have been exceptions where I've seen a girl dozens of times and had no thought of anything other than our sessions, but if I've recognised a trend in my behaviour then best not to push it.

I feel you bro, I was like that with one WL and decided to stop seeing her, now I knew she had 0 feelings for me but I was like a jack russell (fuck labrapoodles). I normally don't feel that way with WL's so this was a one off.

[asiafever]

I fell really hard for a WL a while back. I question what went on between myself and her but during that time I was a bit depressed and the attention was addicting..

Yes. Exactly. Had a very similar incident. It was pure escapism.

[asiafever]

I feel you bro, I was like that with one WL and decided to stop seeing her, now I knew she had 0 feelings for me but I was like a jack russell (fuck labrapoodles). I normally don't feel that way with WL's so this was a one off.

Haha not a fan of labradoodles?

[B J Hunter]

For 55 mins every session there is no talk or look of love between myself and my girl. But when I reach into my pocket she locks sexeyes with me, she comes up close and touches me in that special way, she’s all bouncy and tells me how much she enjoys my company and tells me to come back again and see her again, she can’t wait. I pull out... a pineapple or 2 and she’s like a lovesick puppy. Ahh the feeling of true love!

[Nelly69]

Reading this thread is really screwing with my head! I used to think how do you fall in love with a sex worker, they are paid to pleasure a man and how can you feel comfortable when you know they have sucked 100's or 1000's of dicks....

So, I've been seeing a ML outside of bookings for the past few weeks, I've known her on and off for about 5 years and have always had a spark with her. Lately I have gotten to know her personally on some dates which is completely different to the persona she puts on in the shop. I am find her to be sweet and genuine. (I know, I know....) At the moment I can't stop thinking about her and I am sure there is a mutual feeling between us. I see AR pop up on her and my mind just go crazy and pretend its only her job and it doesn't mean anything... I am using all my will power and trying my best not to fall in love, but part of me is saying. fuck lets do it, you haven't had any luck with normal woman (ex wifes)! I have enough money so she can stop working which she doesn't know about. but I don't want her to be with me because of my money...

fuck, I don't know, never thought I would ever be in this position, I am thinking about how am I going to introduce her to my family? what if someone i know was her ex client? How would I deal with that?

So I feel ya! Maybe I need another life, or maybe this Covid thing is really getting to me...

[Niceguy11]

Even though I have regulars, I don't feel that I am falling in love with them. One example is this WL I have been seeing since 2018. Every time we have sex, its not GFE but always PSE but everything else. Afterwards we hug and talk, have a shower then I'm on my way. I don't know why, but I would never fall in love with her.

On the other hand, this other WL that I was seeing was more honest and truthful with her feelings and for some strange reason, that is the reason why I was attracted to her. Whenever a WL is honest, and I can tell they are being honest, then this makes me more attracted to them in a weird way. Maybe because they are being honest I don't know.

[asiafever]

Reading this thread is really screwing with my head! I used to think how do you fall in love with a sex worker, they are paid to pleasure a man and how can you feel comfortable when you know they have sucked 100's or 1000's of dicks....

So, I've been seeing a ML outside of bookings for the past few weeks, I've known her on and off for about 5 years and have always had a spark with her. Lately I have gotten to know her personally on some dates which is completely different to the persona she puts on in the shop. I am find her to be sweet and genuine. (I know, I know....) At the moment I can't stop thinking about her and I am sure there is a mutual feeling between us. I see AR pop up on her and my mind just go crazy and pretend its only her job and it doesn't mean anything... I am using all my will power and trying my best not to fall in love, but part of me is saying. fuck lets do it, you haven't had any luck with normal woman (ex wifes)! I have enough money so she can stop working which she doesn't know about. but I don't want her to be with me because of my money...

fuck, I don't know, never thought I would ever be in this position, I am thinking about how am I going to introduce her to my family? what if someone i know was her ex client? How would I deal with that?

So I feel ya! Maybe I need another life, or maybe this Covid thing is really getting to me...

Never read reviews. NEVER! Nothing will fuck you up quicker, trust me on this one...

[PervySage]

Never read reviews. NEVER! Nothing will fuck you up quicker, trust me on this one...

Everyone can fall for an ML I suppose... But falling for one that's popular and regularly reviewed well...

Reading reviews won't fuck you up as much as knowing she is a popular ML...

Met many MLs who are popular and booked out one thing they have in common is they pretend to be "good girls" and most are anything but haha... They are popular cos they convince punters only they get the "special service"...

Anyway enjoy the ride, but get ready to jump off..

[local]

Reading this thread is really screwing with my head! I used to think how do you fall in love with a sex worker, they are paid to pleasure a man and how can you feel comfortable when you know they have sucked 100's or 1000's of dicks....

So, I've been seeing a ML outside of bookings for the past few weeks, I've known her on and off for about 5 years and have always had a spark with her. Lately I have gotten to know her personally on some dates which is completely different to the persona she puts on in the shop. I am find her to be sweet and genuine. (I know, I know....) At the moment I can't stop thinking about her and I am sure there is a mutual feeling between us. I see AR pop up on her and my mind just go crazy and pretend its only her job and it doesn't mean anything... I am using all my will power and trying my best not to fall in love, but part of me is saying. fuck lets do it, you haven't had any luck with normal woman (ex wifes)! I have enough money so she can stop working which she doesn't know about. but I don't want her to be with me because of my money...

fuck, I don't know, never thought I would ever be in this position, I am thinking about how am I going to introduce her to my family? what if someone i know was her ex client? How would I deal with that?

So I feel ya! Maybe I need another life, or maybe this Covid thing is really getting to me...

I think the key-point here...
The thread is referring to WL's, where you are referring to an ML.
So which is she, and what extras is she doing ?

[woods23]

Everyone can fall for an ML I suppose... But falling for one that's popular and regularly reviewed well...

Reading reviews won't fuck you up as much as knowing she is a popular ML...

Met many MLs who are popular and booked out one thing they have in common is they pretend to be "good girls" and most are anything but haha... They are popular cos they convince punters only they get the "special service"...

Anyway enjoy the ride, but get ready to jump off..

Ohhh sounds very familiar I can think of one :cool2:.
She like to say " I'm a good girl" all the time haha

[asiafever]

Everyone can fall for an ML I suppose... But falling for one that's popular and regularly reviewed well...

Reading reviews won't fuck you up as much as knowing she is a popular ML...

Met many MLs who are popular and booked out one thing they have in common is they pretend to be "good girls" and most are anything but haha... They are popular cos they convince punters only they get the "special service"...

Anyway enjoy the ride, but get ready to jump off..

Oh Yeah, agree, if you go in KNOWING she is a popular, often reviewed girl you are either a masochist or a psychopath (there are probably other options but I'm too deep in this bottle of wine to care to list them..).

[somtum]

I developed feelings for a stunner At Michelles (eastern suburbs) back in the day. She was so much fun. I visited her on my birthday and she shouted me anal. Best birthday gift ever. Perfect ass as well.

Thinking of it, I had many great experiences there. I remember Cindy (hot asian) she gave amazing BBBJ with CIM. Charlie (British/Moroccan) so much fun and great kisser.

[Nelly69]

Oh Yeah, agree, if you go in KNOWING she is a popular, often reviewed girl you are either a masochist or a psychopath (there are probably other options but I'm too deep in this bottle of wine to care to list them..).

Yeah, I've been away in Melbourne for the last 2 weeks and reading all the AR of her has been driving me crazy, more so because I can't see her... Maybe I am a masochist... Maybe I am punishing myself after a failed marriage... ahh.... maybe stop thinking with little fella...

I need to change my local RNT shop, whats a good recommendation for the west?

[asiafever]

Yeah, I've been away in Melbourne for the last 2 weeks and reading all the AR of her has been driving me crazy, more so because I can't see her... Maybe I am a masochist... Maybe I am punishing myself after a failed marriage... ahh.... maybe stop thinking with little fella...

I need to change my local RNT shop, whats a good recommendation for the west?

Been there done that as well. Finding new digs can be a good start.

How far west?
Seven Hills at the moment Leabons is THE go to shop. Not sure about other days but Mondays and Fridays has a couple of stellar performers.
St Mary's of course I'm going to say Saigon Princess.
Let me know what you're after and I can point you towards a girl at SP certainly.
I don't know about anyone else but to me there isn't much better than a girl who will passionately kiss you as you're cumming, I mean really passionate hands on face, maybe some tongue sucking etc, that is my kryptonite. When a girl does that, and as the waves of ecstasy subsides she slows down also, then pulls away, purses her lips like she juat applied lip balm, and opens her eyes with a smile, that's me done I'm hooked.

[Nelly69]

Thanks Asiafever, I am in the Liverpool area. I think I should stick to young Asian girls so not to fall in love again. Saigon Princess sounds like a good start... I know there are lots of reviews of good RNT joints in the city but don't feel like driving an hour for it.

Now my soft side is thinking, should I ghost the ML? lol

ahh, its good to have a place to vent..

[B J Hunter]

Yeah, I've been away in Melbourne for the last 2 weeks and reading all the AR of her has been driving me crazy, more so because I can't see her... Maybe I am a masochist... Maybe I am punishing myself after a failed marriage... ahh.... maybe stop thinking with little fella...

I need to change my local RNT shop, whats a good recommendation for the west?

It’s the silent non written AR’s you gotta worry about. The written ones have it all there in blow by blow detail for you. What happens with the non written AR’s is where the real action is!

[warwick1]

It’s the silent non written AR’s you gotta worry about. The written ones have it all there in blow by blow detail for you. What happens with the non written AR’s is where the real action is!

How would you know if they are not written...........

[Nelly69]

It’s the silent non written AR’s you gotta worry about. The written ones have it all there in blow by blow detail for you. What happens with the non written AR’s is where the real action is!

you are really messing with me BJ Hunter! lol

[holi_day]

It’s the silent non written AR’s you gotta worry about. The written ones have it all there in blow by blow detail for you. What happens with the non written AR’s is where the real action is!


That's probably true. If I am emotionally into a WL, I wouldn't want to write a report and like "wow, she is amazing! guys, come and fuck her....!" Not even mention her name in the forum.

So one thing for sure is that people who is writing an AR, they are not seriously or emotionally into this WL.

The other scenario is that when the WL you fall for, is telling you her connections with other punters like stay overnight in his place or hotel, hang out celebrating the birthday or Valentine's day etc...not sure how you guys feel.

[B J Hunter]

you are really messing with me BJ Hunter! lol
Yeah I know mate, it’s just my way of saying BEWARE, you know the truth of what goes on. You going to play with fire, eventually you’re going to get burnt. Or as some of our more learned friends would say, fuck, suck, love, pay and leave that shit at the door.

[bigdicklamn]

No money mo honey bois, need huge amount of money to support

[B J Hunter]

How would you know if they are not written...........
Written in the punters minds never to be released for publication. Punters protecting their turf and not wanting to let on how far and what their favourite girls really get up to for them (and him, and me, and you).

[asiafever]

Thanks Asiafever, I am in the Liverpool area. I think I should stick to young Asian girls so not to fall in love again. Saigon Princess sounds like a good start... I know there are lots of reviews of good RNT joints in the city but don't feel like driving an hour for it.

Now my soft side is thinking, should I ghost the ML? lol

ahh, its good to have a place to vent..

No dramas mate. Let me know before you go and I'll give you my recs.

[asiafever]

Written in the punters minds never to be released for publication. Punters protecting their turf and not wanting to let on how far and what their favourite girls really get up to for them (and him, and me, and you).

Very very true.
Plenty of reports I never wrote...

[Nelly69]

Yeah, thats all true. I never write about my best punts out of respect for the WL and secretly want to keep her to myself. And I know everything she does to me is probably repeated 5 times a day but somehow I just convince myself that was special to me. I know all this but I still fall for it after 10 years of punting... lol

[manjuice333]

Nelly, may I regale you with a tale of my (mis)adventures during the recent lockdown when I had the city and a ML all to myself for months?

If you go back and look around March or so I made some thread with a lame title like heart broken or something like that lol. To summarise, I've been punting for over 10 years and banged tons of good looking girls but never once got attached. Then, unexpectedly, I meet this beautiful Japanese girl in an upmarket (expensive) massage shop. I felt a genuine connection with her instantly and I could tell she liked me because when I touched her she was dripping wet. I'm like wow your pussy is so wet, and she said "cause I like you", I was hooked after that. I saw her like 2 or 3 times then lock down hit, shop shut down and I panicked thinking I'm never going to see this girl again. In desperation I called the shop and asked if the girl could meet me outside at a certain time/place and they were reluctant but said they'd pass the message on. I couldn't believe it when she actually showed up!

We had lunch together and then I saw her almost every day after that for months on end (outside in the real world). It eventually ended due to some personal circumstances and her going back to Japan but I am still in touch with her.

So my advice to you would be that if you like your ML and think there is a possibility of a relationship there I wouldn't be against it simply because she is a ML. I used to think I'd never date/marry a ML/WL but life has a way of changing our perceptions/expectations.

Having said that, if I were to go for a full on relationship with said girl there would have to be a discussion and agreement that at some point if she wants it to work too she's going to have to get another job. But, what harm is there to go on a few dates and get to know each other first? You might find after some time that there's nothing really there after all, in which case no harm done you can both move on. Or, you might find you both really like each other, which will lead to its own challenges.

IMO, if she's meeting up with you outside of work she probably does genuinely like you, at least a bit.

Of course, there are other alternatives to be considered here as well. Maybe she's looking to settle and get out of the business and sees you as potentially someone to do that with. That doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.. lol I don't know if I'm really selling this whole endeavour here..

[asiafever]

Nelly, may I regale you with a tale of my (mis)adventures during the recent lockdown when I had the city and a ML all to myself for months?

If you go back and look around March or so I made some thread with a lame title like heart broken or something like that lol. To summarise, I've been punting for over 10 years and banged tons of good looking girls but never once got attached. Then, unexpectedly, I meet this beautiful Japanese girl in an upmarket (expensive) massage shop. I felt a genuine connection with her instantly and I could tell she liked me because when I touched her she was dripping wet. I'm like wow your pussy is so wet, and she said "cause I like you", I was hooked after that. I saw her like 2 or 3 times then lock down hit, shop shut down and I panicked thinking I'm never going to see this girl again. In desperation I called the shop and asked if the girl could meet me outside at a certain time/place and they were reluctant but said they'd pass the message on. I couldn't believe it when she actually showed up!

We had lunch together and then I saw her almost every day after that for months on end (outside in the real world). It eventually ended due to some personal circumstances and her going back to Japan but I am still in touch with her.

So my advice to you would be that if you like your ML and think there is a possibility of a relationship there I wouldn't be against it simply because she is a ML. I used to think I'd never date/marry a ML/WL but life has a way of changing our perceptions/expectations.

Having said that, if I were to go for a full on relationship with said girl there would have to be a discussion and agreement that at some point if she wants it to work too she's going to have to get another job. But, what harm is there to go on a few dates and get to know each other first? You might find after some time that there's nothing really there after all, in which case no harm done you can both move on. Or, you might find you both really like each other, which will lead to its own challenges.

IMO, if she's meeting up with you outside of work she probably does genuinely like you, at least a bit.

Of course, there are other alternatives to be considered here as well. Maybe she's looking to settle and get out of the business and sees you as potentially someone to do that with. That doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.. lol I don't know if I'm really selling this whole endeavour here..

Yeah I guess as long as you know the odds going in and are aware of the pitfalls, then nothing ventured nothing gained really.
As a poet once wrote: " Of all things said, by tongue or pen, the saddest are these: It might have been!"

[asiafever]

Nelly, may I regale you with a tale of my (mis)adventures during the recent lockdown when I had the city and a ML all to myself for months?

If you go back and look around March or so I made some thread with a lame title like heart broken or something like that lol. To summarise, I've been punting for over 10 years and banged tons of good looking girls but never once got attached. Then, unexpectedly, I meet this beautiful Japanese girl in an upmarket (expensive) massage shop. I felt a genuine connection with her instantly and I could tell she liked me because when I touched her she was dripping wet. I'm like wow your pussy is so wet, and she said "cause I like you", I was hooked after that. I saw her like 2 or 3 times then lock down hit, shop shut down and I panicked thinking I'm never going to see this girl again. In desperation I called the shop and asked if the girl could meet me outside at a certain time/place and they were reluctant but said they'd pass the message on. I couldn't believe it when she actually showed up!

We had lunch together and then I saw her almost every day after that for months on end (outside in the real world). It eventually ended due to some personal circumstances and her going back to Japan but I am still in touch with her.

So my advice to you would be that if you like your ML and think there is a possibility of a relationship there I wouldn't be against it simply because she is a ML. I used to think I'd never date/marry a ML/WL but life has a way of changing our perceptions/expectations.

Having said that, if I were to go for a full on relationship with said girl there would have to be a discussion and agreement that at some point if she wants it to work too she's going to have to get another job. But, what harm is there to go on a few dates and get to know each other first? You might find after some time that there's nothing really there after all, in which case no harm done you can both move on. Or, you might find you both really like each other, which will lead to its own challenges.

IMO, if she's meeting up with you outside of work she probably does genuinely like you, at least a bit.

Of course, there are other alternatives to be considered here as well. Maybe she's looking to settle and get out of the business and sees you as potentially someone to do that with. That doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.. lol I don't know if I'm really selling this whole endeavour here..

Yeah I guess as long as you know the odds going in and are aware of the pitfalls, then nothing ventured nothing gained really.
As a poet once wrote: " Of all things said, by tongue or pen, the saddest are these: It might have been!"

[Nelly69]

Nelly, may I regale you with a tale of my (mis)adventures during the recent lockdown when I had the city and a ML all to myself for months?

If you go back and look around March or so I made some thread with a lame title like heart broken or something like that lol. To summarise, I've been punting for over 10 years and banged tons of good looking girls but never once got attached. Then, unexpectedly, I meet this beautiful Japanese girl in an upmarket (expensive) massage shop. I felt a genuine connection with her instantly and I could tell she liked me because when I touched her she was dripping wet. I'm like wow your pussy is so wet, and she said "cause I like you", I was hooked after that. I saw her like 2 or 3 times then lock down hit, shop shut down and I panicked thinking I'm never going to see this girl again. In desperation I called the shop and asked if the girl could meet me outside at a certain time/place and they were reluctant but said they'd pass the message on. I couldn't believe it when she actually showed up!

We had lunch together and then I saw her almost every day after that for months on end (outside in the real world). It eventually ended due to some personal circumstances and her going back to Japan but I am still in touch with her.

So my advice to you would be that if you like your ML and think there is a possibility of a relationship there I wouldn't be against it simply because she is a ML. I used to think I'd never date/marry a ML/WL but life has a way of changing our perceptions/expectations.

Having said that, if I were to go for a full on relationship with said girl there would have to be a discussion and agreement that at some point if she wants it to work too she's going to have to get another job. But, what harm is there to go on a few dates and get to know each other first? You might find after some time that there's nothing really there after all, in which case no harm done you can both move on. Or, you might find you both really like each other, which will lead to its own challenges.

IMO, if she's meeting up with you outside of work she probably does genuinely like you, at least a bit.

Of course, there are other alternatives to be considered here as well. Maybe she's looking to settle and get out of the business and sees you as potentially someone to do that with. That doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.. lol I don't know if I'm really selling this whole endeavour here..

Thanks Manjuice, its good to have other punters support! I'm back in town this week, may go out for another date and see what happens.

[the_boss_king]

all I have to say is, play the game. don't get played !

[Rackster]

Dont do it if you can avoid it. (Asian shop girls specifically) Majority are here because they are the ones supporting their families, and their old age, - no pensions in China. Most live in the rooms in the shop, and dont see the light of day except for 4 days a month, (or to the RSL after work to smash the punting dollars back into the community) where they sometimes have a room they rent elsewhere... So, no matter how hard you try, when your mind wanders and thinks what they are doing, theres a very high chance its one of us, or some overtly obese sweating dude, or your grandpa's dick in her mouth for $50.. Then theres the extended booking that run through till late in the morning, and you know they are doing what you want to be doing... If they get time to stay, then usually too tired to play, and then ifs a rush to get them back to work for their 4 hour double booking with their friend that 'does things' and you are off to another shop to ease your tension...

Does your head in...

[AHLUNGOR]

There is pension system in China from age 60 (m) and 55 (f) !

[CFM001]

Dont do it if you can avoid it. (Asian shop girls specifically) Majority are here because they are the ones supporting their families, and their old age, - no pensions in China. Most live in the rooms in the shop, and dont see the light of day except for 4 days a month, (or to the RSL after work to smash the punting dollars back into the community) where they sometimes have a room they rent elsewhere... So, no matter how hard you try, when your mind wanders and thinks what they are doing, theres a very high chance its one of us, or some overtly obese sweating dude, or your grandpa's dick in her mouth for $50.. Then theres the extended booking that run through till late in the morning, and you know they are doing what you want to be doing... If they get time to stay, then usually too tired to play, and then ifs a rush to get them back to work for their 4 hour double booking with their friend that 'does things' and you are off to another shop to ease your tension...

Does your head in...

Love the line about smashing the money back into the community! I've never seen ML/WL type lafies in the RSL though? What are they doing? Pokies?

[Archer]

Love the line about smashing the money back into the community! I've never seen ML/WL type lafies in the RSL though? What are they doing? Pokies?

Check out the casino and you will find a few there on their days off.


no matter how hard you try, when your mind wanders and thinks what they are doing, theres a very high chance its one of us, or some overtly obese sweating dude, or your grandpa's dick in her mouth for $50.

100%! Unless you are comfortable in an open relationship and sharing her with everyone here haha.

[Assent]

Never buy anything that floats, flys or fucks

Just rent :cool2:

[Budgyboy]

Im with ya assent, ive lost $$ on all three when buying. Although if you are tempted to buy make sure its shiny brand new and maybe just maybe you wont loose as much.

[timtam]

Bro you are in the same bay as me over the last few years and nearly every year I have done the same stupid thing and I blocked these feelings as the years go by and you learn and move on. As many bro will say pay fuck and leave. Enjoy the moment and when it ends, you should end it as fast as it starts. Don’t bother thinking back and move on. So every year I move on to the next adventure and you learn and experience new excitement in your life. Plenty of pussies out there and plenty of them will want your money, let your money make you happy and don’t let it fuck you and your serious relationship (if you have a family or gf) up.

[B J Hunter]

Guys if there was an alternative site where all the WL’s and ML’s were talking shit just like us they’d be telling each other the same thing! “Handy, Suck, fuck and move on to the next job” . Now I’m not about to tell you Emotions and forming feelings for both punters and the girls are real sometimes and can’t be denied playing in this world, it happens to the best of us. And while it may sound cold It’s those punters who continue to say beware and don’t do it are saying it from experience. Hey we’ve all been in a relationship that ended, if you’re the one who ended it 99% of the time you’ll move on quickly because it ended on your terms. When your the poor person on the other end of the break up you can end up fucked up and depressed for an eternity. I for one find it hard to resist the temptation of an outside relationship with an ML, and the opportunities are endless, but I tell myself and remember the wise words of so many on here, don’t do it, there’s a whole world of pain awaiting if your not mentally equipped to deal with the inevitable outcome. I also wouldn’t want to put any girl in that position either. It’s not worth it for sex, no matter how good you both might think it is.

[Nelly69]

I am told there is a forum for WL and ML, they use it to find jobs and discuss techniques. Won't be a stretch for them to discuss customers as well.

[Meng]

I am told there is a forum for WL and ML, they use it to find jobs and discuss techniques. Won't be a stretch for them to discuss customers as well.

Ooh! Link to this mysterious forum. Unlocking the secrets of the universe.

[manjuice333]

Ooh! Link to this mysterious forum. Unlocking the secrets of the universe.

lol yes please! The thought of this is so intriguing it’s given me an erection.

[Archer]

I am told there is a forum for WL and ML, they use it to find jobs and discuss techniques. Won't be a stretch for them to discuss customers as well.

I have heard about this network but cannot get more information on it. They do AR and warn each other about troublesome customers.

[exstar]

Ive been told a lot MLs know each other outside of shops and they usually communicate via LINE groups - they’re not savvy enough to setup forums - yes they do talk about punters and which shops are good to work at etc

[cuteguy]

I have heard about this network but cannot get more information on it. They do AR and warn each other about troublesome customers.

Not surprised at all. Just like punters have forums about WLs and MLs so do they have their chat groups. I even heard that strippers have their own chat forum where they chat about their customers and regulars and even have nicknames for customers. :shout:

[DireStraits]

I will be among the happiest of us in this thread to be proven wrong on this but I do think the existence of a forum where WL/ML review and keep tabs on punters in Sydney is a figment of our (very fertile) imagination. Sure there are a handful of female users on this site, and sure some of them may well have exchanged a few dozen PMs concerning punters who post here. But it's one heck of a leap to go from that to a full-blown separate forum that's maintained with utmost secrecy (that no one here actually knows what it is) and where the predominantly Asian WL/MLs post reviews and banter about punters in Sydney.

Someone please prove me wrong 😄

[asiafever]

Be careful what you wish for.
I dare say more than a few guys would get a pretty rude shock to see what the girls really thought of them, myself included, if indeed they think anything of us at all...

[B J Hunter]

I love a good conspiracy theory. Making a few people nervous this phantom ML website. Maybe all of the ML’s have got together and contracted the website build and admin to the guy who created ‘The Shop List’. He’s hard at work right now compiling profiles on us all with the girls intel and those secret photos taken of us on the way in, during session and out of the shop. Oh god I hope I was having a good hair day.
We need Scully and Mulder to get to the bottom of this for us.

[Nelly69]

hahaha, Yes this would be a funny forum to infiltrate, I could see myself being one of these meme during a session...

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[holi_day]

I don't quite believe there is a forum like this for WLs. Even there is, it won't be very active.

Most of the WLs do not use English don't expect them to read and write much about their work. However, they do chat tons over customers within their close WLs friends, in their own language.

[Archer]

It's not a forum but LINE groups. They describe customers based on clothing and nationality. Who to look out for and which customers gives good pineapple 🍍

[Shoryureppa]

Lust should not be confused with love.

I know full well what I am paying for, the illusion and fantasy of it all.

Keep your mind sharp lads.

[PervySage]

Lust should not be confused with love.

I know full well what I am paying for, the illusion and fantasy of it all.

Keep your mind sharp lads.

And yet every few months there is a similar thread...the fact is punts are enjoyable when there is a "connection" whether that is real for ML /WL is a different debate 😁

Keep you mind sharp is good advice

[quagmire]

Relationships with a WL are almost always doomed, unless you are wealthy enough to take her away and start again it will not last. I am currently seeing a lady regularly at her home, until yesterday we were both being very cool about it.
I know she is fucking lots of men and she knows I am fucking other girls, she often invites one over on her days off for me if she is not up for it. I do have feelings for her but I've kept them in check and I was unsure how she felt about me as she has been very cool with everything. But something happened yesterday, she was at work at the shop and I was at her place with one of her friends, in the evening she called to tell me the shop was quiet and I should come over, I was too tired and was heading home.
She then started to question me about the other girl, this was only the second time I had seen her friend but she was clearly unhappy and admitted to being jealous, she was really struggling with it because she hadn't realized that she had developed an attachment to me. I had to reassure her that I had no feelings for the other girl but admitted to her that I do have for her. I am not sure where it goes from here, we both have complicated lives and combining them can only make matters worse. I have no intention of trying to be a "white knight" or some such, today we will catch up and clear the air.

[B J Hunter]

Relationships with a WL are almost always doomed, unless you are wealthy enough to take her away and start again it will not last. I am currently seeing a lady regularly at her home, until yesterday we were both being very cool about it.
I know she is fucking lots of men and she knows I am fucking other girls, she often invites one over on her days off for me if she is not up for it. I do have feelings for her but I've kept them in check and I was unsure how she felt about me as she has been very cool with everything. But something happened yesterday, she was at work at the shop and I was at her place with one of her friends, in the evening she called to tell me the shop was quiet and I should come over, I was too tired and was heading home.
She then started to question me about the other girl, this was only the second time I had seen her friend but she was clearly unhappy and admitted to being jealous, she was really struggling with it because she hadn't realized that she had developed an attachment to me. I had to reassure her that I had no feelings for the other girl but admitted to her that I do have for her. I am not sure where it goes from here, we both have complicated lives and combining them can only make matters worse. I have no intention of trying to be a "white knight" or some such, today we will catch up and clear the air.
Kenny Loggins has some words of warning for you.
Dangerzone - give it a play

Revvin' up your engine
Listen to her howlin' roar
Metal under tension
Beggin' you to touch and go
Highway to the Danger Zone
Ride into the Danger Zone
Headin' into twilight
Spreadin' out her wings tonight
She got you jumpin' off the deck
Shovin' into overdrive
Highway to the Danger Zone
I'll take you right into the Danger Zone

[holi_day]

Adding a few words from Roxette.

"Hold on tight, you know she's a little bit dangerous
She's got what it takes to make ends meet
The eyes of a lover that hit like heat
You know she's a little bit dangerous!"

[asiafever]

I'll add a few lines that remind me of a few girls I've known...
"Her mind is Tiffany-twisted
She got the Mercedes bends, uh
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys
That she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard
Sweet summer sweat
Some dance to remember
Some dance to forget"..

[liminal]

Relationships with a WL are almost always doomed, unless you are wealthy enough to take her away and start again it will not last. I am currently seeing a lady regularly at her home, until yesterday we were both being very cool about it.
I know she is fucking lots of men and she knows I am fucking other girls, she often invites one over on her days off for me if she is not up for it. I do have feelings for her but I've kept them in check and I was unsure how she felt about me as she has been very cool with everything. But something happened yesterday, she was at work at the shop and I was at her place with one of her friends, in the evening she called to tell me the shop was quiet and I should come over, I was too tired and was heading home.
She then started to question me about the other girl, this was only the second time I had seen her friend but she was clearly unhappy and admitted to being jealous, she was really struggling with it because she hadn't realized that she had developed an attachment to me. I had to reassure her that I had no feelings for the other girl but admitted to her that I do have for her. I am not sure where it goes from here, we both have complicated lives and combining them can only make matters worse. I have no intention of trying to be a "white knight" or some such, today we will catch up and clear the air.

Mr quandary please share your real life exploits on this topic?

[Nelly69]

Relationships with a WL are almost always doomed, unless you are wealthy enough to take her away and start again it will not last. I am currently seeing a lady regularly at her home, until yesterday we were both being very cool about it.
I know she is fucking lots of men and she knows I am fucking other girls, she often invites one over on her days off for me if she is not up for it. I do have feelings for her but I've kept them in check and I was unsure how she felt about me as she has been very cool with everything. But something happened yesterday, she was at work at the shop and I was at her place with one of her friends, in the evening she called to tell me the shop was quiet and I should come over, I was too tired and was heading home.
She then started to question me about the other girl, this was only the second time I had seen her friend but she was clearly unhappy and admitted to being jealous, she was really struggling with it because she hadn't realized that she had developed an attachment to me. I had to reassure her that I had no feelings for the other girl but admitted to her that I do have for her. I am not sure where it goes from here, we both have complicated lives and combining them can only make matters worse. I have no intention of trying to be a "white knight" or some such, today we will catch up and clear the air.

Yeah, I trust is the biggest thing being in a relationship with a WL, but you are brave spending time at her place with her friend. Thats kinda odd if you ask me...

[azza1234]

Damn dude..... I had my regular ML ask me if I see other girls as well, for some reason I just kept saying no

[Raybo]

I pretty much love them all. Say the same thing every time this thread comes up. Is it get married, have children, raise family type love? Nah......it's different.

The love is the time you spend together, occasionally having a chat in between those times. The laughs, the tears and the exploration of each other's body that determines the 'love' you have.

[wilisno]

I pretty much love them all. Say the same thing every time this thread comes up. Is it get married, have children, raise family type love? Nah......it's different.

The love is the time you spend together, occasionally having a chat in between those times. The laughs, the tears and the exploration of each other's body that determines the 'love' you have.
My kind of attitude in punting, haha ! ;) ;) ;)

[Niceguy11]

I'm not falling in love with my regular, but do care for her the same way I do with my friends. She made it clear she will never get into a relationship with a punter that she has met in a shop and would prefer to meet someone outside of the shop. We do hang out outside of the shop like take her dog for a walk, get dinner or just hangout playing games, just like a normal friendship relationship. Outside the shop, we are just normal people living normal lives and never had sex. I mean it's on the cards and we can, but I just appreciate the normality of being friends if that makes sense. Just to make it clear, I don't have feelings for her, but do care about her the same way as I do with my good friends.

I talk about my problems with my work and she tells me her problems with her work/job. I don't know if other punters have a regular who is brutally honest with the way the sex industry is, but god damn, its a eye opener. The saddest thing she told me is that she hates fucking random guys and wants to build a better life for herself which is totally understandable. I know its her choice but she is determined to get out of the industry sooner rather than later.

Look, I can understand the O.P about falling in love with a WL, its a real thing and can happen to all of us. It's very hard to not get attached and if you develop feelings of love, I can certainly understand that.

[Jumper]

I'm not falling in love with my regular, but do care for her the same way I do with my friends. She made it clear she will never get into a relationship with a punter that she has met in a shop and would prefer to meet someone outside of the shop. We do hang out outside of the shop like take her dog for a walk, get dinner or just hangout playing games, just like a normal friendship relationship. Outside the shop, we are just normal people living normal lives and never had sex. I mean it's on the cards and we can, but I just appreciate the normality of being friends if that makes sense. Just to make it clear, I don't have feelings for her, but do care about her the same way as I do with my good friends.

I talk about my problems with my work and she tells me her problems with her work/job. I don't know if other punters have a regular who is brutally honest with the way the sex industry is, but god damn, its a eye opener. The saddest thing she told me is that she hates fucking random guys and wants to build a better life for herself which is totally understandable. I know its her choice but she is determined to get out of the industry sooner rather than later.

Look, I can understand the O.P about falling in love with a WL, its a real thing and can happen to all of us. It's very hard to not get attached and if you develop feelings of love, I can certainly understand that.
Thanks for bringing this up.
I had few times having meals, shopping or settle some problems together with regular ML, I liked this even no sex just kinda of friendship.
Few days ago, as normal dates for breakfast, one of them invited me to her apartment, told me to shower then have sex.
Please don’t ask me who and where.
I felt a bit awkward so pay her $200. What do you think?

[B J Hunter]

Thanks for bringing this up.
I had few times having meals, shopping or settle some problems together with regular ML, I liked this even no sex just kinda of friendship.
Few days ago, as normal dates for breakfast, one of them invited me to her apartment, told me to shower then have sex.
Please don’t ask me who and where.
I felt a bit awkward so pay her $200. What do you think?

Don’t pay any money next time and see if you get another invite! Then you’ll know, Is it love or the love of money?

[DireStraits]

Thanks for bringing this up.
I had few times having meals, shopping or settle some problems together with regular ML, I liked this even no sex just kinda of friendship.
Few days ago, as normal dates for breakfast, one of them invited me to her apartment, told me to shower then have sex.
Please don’t ask me who and where.
I felt a bit awkward so pay her $200. What do you think?
I think... giving her *any* amount of cash when she invited you over because she wanted to be with you was highly insulting.
But never mind what I think - how did she react to it? Did she refuse? Look disappointed? That's how you'll know whether there was an expectation of payment...

[Nelly69]

Thanks for bringing this up.
I had few times having meals, shopping or settle some problems together with regular ML, I liked this even no sex just kinda of friendship.
Few days ago, as normal dates for breakfast, one of them invited me to her apartment, told me to shower then have sex.
Please don’t ask me who and where.
I felt a bit awkward so pay her $200. What do you think?

I too would be interested on her reaction on giving her money, I am kinda seeing a ML and we go out for dinner often and I do have feelings for her but if I was ever to go back to her place and have sex, I would consider that emotional vs transactional. My ML have never asked me for money and I still see and pay her at the shop but I would never transact that outside of a RNT place. Don't treat transaction as love man!

[Jumper]

Don’t pay any money next time and see if you get another invite! Then you’ll know, Is it love or the love of money?
I don’t like free lunch. Few hours together playtime, teatime and fuck time. I have to compensate her something as she serve $400/an hour. I will not contact her again unless she contact me.

I think... giving her *any* amount of cash when she invited you over because she wanted to be with you was highly insulting.
But never mind what I think - how did she react to it? Did she refuse? Look disappointed? That's how you'll know whether there was an expectation of payment...
We didn’t discuss about money before sex but she did mentioned just tips will do???
She didn’t feel disappointment just received. She messaged me after I left saying thanks.


I too would be interested on her reaction on giving her money, I am kinda seeing a ML and we go out for dinner often and I do have feelings for her but if I was ever to go back to her place and have sex, I would consider that emotional vs transactional. My ML have never asked me for money and I still see and pay her at the shop but I would never transact that outside of a RNT place. Don't treat transaction as love man!
No love, she knows I have family but ask me to be her boyfriend. She just need companion ask me to stay overnight during Xmas break. As she knows I will be off til new year.

I haven’t contacted her since, but even she contact me.
Hi bro, just need opinions doesn’t mean to show off as doesn’t want to break this relationship as I feel enjoying having time with her.

[Niceguy11]

Thanks for bringing this up.
I had few times having meals, shopping or settle some problems together with regular ML, I liked this even no sex just kinda of friendship.
Few days ago, as normal dates for breakfast, one of them invited me to her apartment, told me to shower then have sex.
Please don’t ask me who and where.
I felt a bit awkward so pay her $200. What do you think?

It's great you gave her the cash man, but I reckon next time just hold off and see what happens. From my experience, she has never asked for cash outside the shop.

[tarl1975]

I have learned my lessons having relationships with WLs - just love them during those sessions as if you have entered another realm. I have also met WLs who fell in love with the punters - they have also learnt their lessons.

[DireStraits]

I have to compensate her something as she serve $400/an hour.
I'm sorry - would you mind please clarifying... $400/an hour? Is that her normal rate as a ML?? I've never seen a ML charge anything like that! WLs yes, but not MLs...

[warwick1]

Thanks for bringing this up.
I had few times having meals, shopping or settle some problems together with regular ML, I liked this even no sex just kinda of friendship.
Few days ago, as normal dates for breakfast, one of them invited me to her apartment, told me to shower then have sex.
Please don’t ask me who and where.
I felt a bit awkward so pay her $200. What do you think?

Sounds familiar, you help them out with their own interests outside and I do it because I have the time and there is no other motive, I am past all that and then the money thing turns up, disappointing but no big deal...merry xmas to all...............

[Jumper]

I'm sorry - would you mind please clarifying... $400/an hour? Is that her normal rate as a ML?? I've never seen a ML charge anything like that! WLs yes, but not MLs...
She is a ML in the shop but occasionally escort hourly $400. This is standard for escorts girls for FS.

Thanks everybody. I will come back if she contact me to her apartment again.

[cuteguy]

I have learned my lessons having relationships with WLs - just love them during those sessions as if you have entered another realm. I have also met WLs who fell in love with the punters - they have also learnt their lessons.

In most cases, it's the customer who gets his heart broken if he falls for a WL. Most WLs know that if they want to work as WLs then they can't have relationships with customers. They have to keep their work separate from their private lives.

[Raybo]

if you actually fall in love with a girl and she seems to feel the same way, why would you share it here?

[Dettol]

Same old thread that always end up with some lames just try to outfantasy one another LOL !

[niva321]

Oh hey it's Dettol, the saltiest shrimp dick on this forum

[Jamez11]

See's the title, probably reads every single post then complains about it... yep salty shrimp dick move

[CFM001]

if you actually fall in love with a girl and she seems to feel the same way, why would you share it here?

He's probably just in a mood. Wants to share and see if anybody here can relate to him. I get it. It's probably all you can think about right now. Dude needs someone to talk to.

Jumper, I've been in a similar position. Just do what you want to do, but be prepared to get burnt, because most likely it will happen once the fantasy wears off.
But if you're young with no commitments, just see what happens.

Have fun brother

[Niceguy11]

He's probably just in a mood. Wants to share and see if anybody here can relate to him. I get it. It's probably all you can think about right now. Dude needs someone to talk to.

Jumper, I've been in a similar position. Just do what you want to do, but be prepared to get burnt, because most likely it will happen once the fantasy wears off.
But if you're young with no commitments, just see what happens.

Have fun brother

Yeah bro. Totally agree with you now about the whole getting involved with WL'S either as friend or relationship.

From my recent experience, it's just not worth it as their lives are complicated and often many regulars on the side. I'm not attached or anything, just friends but to see how they manage multiple "relationships" with regulars is a bit crazy. My point is there is always others out there.

It's just too complex bring a WL friend or boyfriend. Better off dating or friends with non WL

[CFM001]

Yeah bro. Totally agree with you now about the whole getting involved with WL'S either as friend or relationship.

From my recent experience, it's just not worth it as their lives are complicated and often many regulars on the side. I'm not attached or anything, just friends but to see how they manage multiple "relationships" with regulars is a bit crazy. My point is there is always others out there.

It's just too complex bring a WL friend or boyfriend. Better off dating or friends with non WL

Glad you've worked it out for yourself. It's hard when there are feelings affecting your decisions.
Just curious to know what you saw in terms of how they "manage" their multiple relationships.

[Niceguy11]

Glad you've worked it out for yourself. It's hard when there are feelings affecting your decisions.
Just curious to know what you saw in terms of how they "manage" their multiple relationships.

It's hard to explain bro. I guess when you hang out with them, they generally talk about their other regulars and the stuff they do. You get a insight into the good ones and the bad ones. Some of them are nice but others seem to take advantage of a person's vulnerable state and that's just shit.

It really is a sad situation for WL's that are in the industry and trying to get out. They try to but the simply can't for reasons beyond me.

I don't mind still being friends and will be there for the support if needed.

[quackm2002]

I would describe what you wrote as an uncomfortable truth. You summed this thread and the one on finding a wife partner in a shop up perfectly. Hard to believe there are this many delusional guys around.



Same old thread that always end up with some lames just try to outfantasy one another LOL !

[rooter]

Same old thread that always end up with some lames just try to outfantasy one another LOL !


I would describe what you wrote as an uncomfortable truth. You summed this thread and the one on finding a wife partner in a shop up perfectly. Hard to believe there are this many delusional guys around.

I disagree. I am sure there are plenty of delusional guys around. As well as lonely guys, naïve guys etc.
I think the stories of relationships with WLs are mostly true.
Lot's of guys lose the plot with WLs and think life outside the brothel is the same as life in the brothel.
And there are lots of WLs who for whatever reason are willing to enter into a relationship: money, visa, permanent residence, loneliness, despair etc
Statistically when you think of the thousands of WLs, hundreds of thousands of punters, and millions of punts every year, it's not surprising that this would happen every now and then.

[AHLUNGOR]

I disagree. I am sure there are plenty of delusional guys around. As well as lonely guys, naïve guys etc.
I think the stories of relationships with WLs are true.
Lot's of guys lose the plot with WLs and think life outside the brothel is the same as life in the brothel.
And there are lots of WLs who for whatever reason are willing to enter into a relationship: money, visa, loneliness etc
Statistically when you think of the thousands of WLs, hundreds of thousands of punters, millions of punts every year, it's not surprising that this would happen.

Very true rooter,

If we could take (probably not and never will!) the sex bit out of the sex industry , it’s basically a service industry for human contacts, relaxation, friendship, companions etc etc etc.

Just like any other social settings and situations where boys meet girls, boys meet boys and girls meeting everyone else in between? in fact I think it is the sex bit that got people thinking, be on high alert, very cautious and scared and hesitate to open up , let go and get right into it, no ?

So, it will happen , it’s happening as we speak and it won’t stop as long as there are feelings left in the boys and girls involved or encountered !

Just sit back, enjoy the ride, let nature takes its course and don’t look back . Because, if all fails- the sex bit must still be good and sensational, if it was a dud punt, you won’t get hooked or got involved, right ?

[DireStraits]

Quite possibly the most human, empathetic post in this thread!


Very true rooter,

If we could take (probably not and never will!) the sex bit out of the sex industry , it’s basically a service industry for human contacts, relaxation, friendship, companions etc etc etc.

Just like any other social settings and situations where boys meet girls, boys meet boys and girls meeting everyone else in between? in fact I think it is the sex bit that got people thinking, be on high alert, very cautious and scared and hesitate to open up , let go and get right into it, no ?

So, it will happen , it’s happening as we speak and it won’t stop as long as there are feelings left in the boys and girls involved or encountered !

Just sit back, enjoy the ride, let nature takes its course and don’t look back . Because, if all fails- the sex bit must still be good and sensational, if it was a dud punt, you won’t get hooked or got involved, right ?

[Budgyboy]

We all get a bit salty from time to time. I am guilty of it and i have been called out because of it.But ive also given as much as what i got, it evens out. It is after all a forum and one of the better ones and if you stick around long enought all is forgiven. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and some of the senior members have seen the same threads rehashed over the years so it can be a bit tedious, but dont let that stop you as there is new members joining everyday.

[Dettol]

For some of you dudes who are deep in your feelings... right now this thread is on the front page just under another one titled “Info on Big Clits”.

Just thought I’d put things in perspective for you Romeos.

[Minathy8724]

For some of you dudes who are deep in your feelings... right now this thread is on the front page just under another one titled “Info on Big Clits”.

Just thought I’d put things in perspective for you Romeos.

Now, I am not sure if you mean to be funny, but that comment is the most hilarious thing I have read. Classic. :)

[warwick1]

For some of you dudes who are deep in your feelings... right now this thread is on the front page just under another one titled “Info on Big Clits”.

Just thought I’d put things in perspective for you Romeos.

Very good, love it........

[Jamez11]

The only thing worse than a guy falling in love with a wl, is a salty little bitch who religiously follows the topic and leaves a salty little bitch comment.

If it annoys you so much don't read it.

[quackm2002]

Another classic comment from Dettol.

I don’t deny relationships happen from time to time but for the most part, they are a figment of the guy’s imagination or fantasy playing out. Are you still paying her for sex? If so, it’s likely a fantasy. If you’re not, then your problems have just begun.

A lot of girls lead guys along picking up substantial gifts and cash along the way. MLs are absolute experts at this with the “I only do this with you” line

It’s also pretty pathetic because the elephant in the room here is that for some of the active posters on this and that wife/partner thread, their only hope of finding a relationship seems to be in a shop.

[asiafever]

A lot of girls lead guys along picking up substantial gifts and cash along the way. MLs are absolute experts at this with the “I only do this with you” line


Yup. One very popular ML a while ago showed me a $1000 pair of Gucci shoes a customer gave her, the $5000 Chanel bag another customer gave her and the god knows how expensive necklace yet another gave her. Before one of our sessions started another customer was texting her to check her shoe size for a pair of Chanel trainers she liked, she showed me pics and asked my opinion! Girl probably made more money than they did...

[Nelly69]

Yup. One very popular ML a while ago showed me a $1000 pair of Gucci shoes a customer gave her, the $5000 Chanel bag another customer gave her and the god knows how expensive necklace yet another gave her. Before one of our sessions started another customer was texting her to check her shoe size for a pair of Chanel trainers she liked, she showed me pics and asked my opinion! Girl probably made more money than they did...

Who gives a ML $5,000 chanel bag??? Fuck, pretty screwed up to think you can buy love!

[yug]

Who you guys talking to?
The OP posted once and got off this thread quicker than Usain Bolt on Steroids.
Clearly, he was reeling from the experience so he took a huge emotional dump and got off the potty.

But please go on.
I guess we haven't finished insulting each other because, as we know, that's how we feel better about ourselves.
Use those literary words to boost our egos and try to win this unwinnable discussion we are in.
I posted mine. I can now sleep well at night!...Ohhh...feels so good!...Feels like cumming on giant tits!

[Climax598]

Who gives a ML $5,000 chanel bag??? Fuck, pretty screwed up to think you can buy love!
You know us man. Brain say no but dick do the talking. You know woman pussy are like magnet.

[warwick1]

You know us man. Brain say no but dick do the talking. You know woman pussy are like magnet.

Boganville...............................

[Nelly69]

Women pussy are more like black holes, sucks you in and never escape....

[Kwinko]

This topic come up over and over and over....

[PervySage]

Yup. One very popular ML a while ago showed me a $1000 pair of Gucci shoes a customer gave her, the $5000 Chanel bag another customer gave her and the god knows how expensive necklace yet another gave her. Before one of our sessions started another customer was texting her to check her shoe size for a pair of Chanel trainers she liked, she showed me pics and asked my opinion! Girl probably made more money than they did...


Who gives a ML $5,000 chanel bag??? Fuck, pretty screwed up to think you can buy love!

There are some very rich punters out there and regular punters are in a different world.

If you try the "outside shop game" as I call it, you have to remember trying to "save" or "support" an ML / WL there is a ton of richer guys doing the same 😁

ML / WL live jn a different world too, most are not thinking of just paying off one house they think of paying off several, buying a business and having passive income by age of 35.

Regular punters think of paying off a mortgage by 50! If you are a regular punter on a salary and doing this as a hobby be aware you can't "help" these girls nor do they want saving.

The various threads in these topics has shown too many punters are "nice or naive"

Having said that I also enjoy meeting ML outside of shop but I know now even I have a good job etc etc, for most ML.the lifestyle they want vs what I think is good are world's apart.

[asiafever]

There are some very rich punters out there and regular punters are in a different world.

If you try the "outside shop game" as I call it, you have to remember trying to "save" or "support" an ML / WL there is a ton of richer guys doing the same ��

ML / WL live jn a different world too, most are not thinking of just paying off one house they think of paying off several, buying a business and having passive income by age of 35.

Regular punters think of paying off a mortgage by 50! If you are a regular punter on a salary and doing this as a hobby be aware you can't "help" these girls nor do they want saving.

The various threads in these topics has shown too many punters are "nice or naive"

Having said that I also enjoy meeting ML outside of shop but I know now even I have a good job etc etc, for most ML.the lifestyle they want vs what I think is good are world's apart.

Spot on. Girl in question was booked solid 5 or 6 days a week, last I spoke to her a while ago she had bought an apartment in a popular suburb and had a few different side gigs going, as well as sending money home for her family. Next phase according to her was to reduce her work and focus on the side gigs. Haven't seen her around for a while so I guess the transition has gone well. She didnt want nor need saving.

[rooter]

Too many guys watching fairy tale movies like Pretty Woman :)

[Niceguy11]

There are some very rich punters out there and regular punters are in a different world.

If you try the "outside shop game" as I call it, you have to remember trying to "save" or "support" an ML / WL there is a ton of richer guys doing the same 😁

ML / WL live jn a different world too, most are not thinking of just paying off one house they think of paying off several, buying a business and having passive income by age of 35.

Regular punters think of paying off a mortgage by 50! If you are a regular punter on a salary and doing this as a hobby be aware you can't "help" these girls nor do they want saving.

The various threads in these topics has shown too many punters are "nice or naive"

Having said that I also enjoy meeting ML outside of shop but I know now even I have a good job etc etc, for most ML.the lifestyle they want vs what I think is good are world's apart.

Yeah bro that's right. Some WL's have rich punters who like them and take them out. I know this from first hand experience. I'm not rich but on a 6 figure salary. There are punters out there that drive expensive cars and have expensive houses however, the girls need to take care because it's generally the expensive punters who treat them like shit. I'm not saying every one of them does but the vast majority have so much money, they treat them like a sex doll. I've heard rich punters booking girls for 10 hours high on coke. The girls take it as well but after a few hours, they are in excruciating pain.

But yes, most girls want to get out. Just a matter of when not if.

[cuteguy]

Yeah bro that's right. Some WL's have rich punters who like them and take them out. I know this from first hand experience. I'm not rich but on a 6 figure salary. There are punters out there that drive expensive cars and have expensive houses however, the girls need to take care because it's generally the expensive punters who treat them like shit. I'm not saying every one of them does but the vast majority have so much money, they treat them like a sex doll. I've heard rich punters booking girls for 10 hours high on coke. The girls take it as well but after a few hours, they are in excruciating pain.

But yes, most girls want to get out. Just a matter of when not if.

This is the world that many WLs will find themselves or be tempted to fall in and then find it difficult to escape. Wealthy guys who have loads of cash to spend on these girls and give them expensive presents like LV bags and holidays and let's not forget the drugs too.

[Niceguy11]

This is the world that many WLs will find themselves or be tempted to fall in and then find it difficult to escape. Wealthy guys who have loads of cash to spend on these girls and give them expensive presents like LV bags and holidays and let's not forget the drugs too.

Yeah bro, spot on. The drugs is just another problem they face. The industry + drugs + rich punters = an endless rabbit hole that they will never escape. It's only once they realise that they are essentially being used will they escape. They will come to a point of realisation. It's not a matter of if but when. It's like gambling. You get to a point where your like fuck this, I'm done. And the same with drugs. You get so low that you decide enough is enough. I've been there myself so can easily relate to WL's who are on drugs, gamble and drink. That was me about 15 years ago. But not anymore. It's the realisation that will get them to change.

[Nelly69]

The WL that I stopped seeing back in Nov just msg me today saying she misses me and and sorry to be a bitch. she will change and give her heart to me blar blar blar... too late I say, I think you lost your regular income and expensive dinners and wants that back! Yes, I know she reads this forum and probably worked out my Alias! Too bad, my fellow bros here have slapped me out of a bad fantasy. I'll save my money for the real girls! lol

[Niceguy11]

The WL that I stopped seeing back in Nov just msg me today saying she misses me and and sorry to be a bitch. she will change and give her heart to me blar blar blar... too late I say, I think you lost your regular income and expensive dinners and wants that back! Yes, I know she reads this forum and probably worked out my Alias! Too bad, my fellow bros here have slapped me out of a bad fantasy. I'll save my money for the real girls! lol

What happened before November bro ? I'm too lazy to go back in the thread to see what happened lol. But yeah, I reckon something probably happened with her hence why she misses you. It's like when regulars message you when you haven't seen them for a while saying "hi baby when you going to see me ?".

[Bunty4]

The WL that I stopped seeing back in Nov just msg me today saying she misses me and and sorry to be a bitch. she will change and give her heart to me blar blar blar... too late I say, I think you lost your regular income and expensive dinners and wants that back! Yes, I know she reads this forum and probably worked out my Alias! Too bad, my fellow bros here have slapped me out of a bad fantasy. I'll save my money for the real girls! lol
Well done mate...you will thank yourself...as many wise punters have said MLs and WLs need no saving, they enjoy Thier journey of making money.... at the beginning of their journey they might feel terrible but money changes everything.

[GoldfishMan]

Who gives a ML $5,000 chanel bag??? Fuck, pretty screwed up to think you can buy love!
Heh, I'm actually guilty of this but not with WLs. I really enjoyed giving gifts to my past GFs, but it wasn't for "love".
Over time, I realised the reason I kept doing it was for a combination of "thank you sex" and being able to have passionate sex with a girl while she's wearing a sexy piece of "something" that I saw in the shops. For example, I'd walk past a shop like Stuart Weitzmann, ogle at the sexy girls in the shop buying those sexy long boots. I'd then buy a pair for my GF, and get her to wear them when we have passionate "thank you sex".
I have a thing for legs and shoes, so I've done this with multiple past GFs buying them nice shoes. Always designer shoes, oh my god I dunno how they can design shoes that are so sexy. Gucci, Balenciaga, CL, Chanel, Valentino (rock studs, a miracle of fashion design!)... I love them all.
I haven't done this with a WL before, but only because I couldn't get my head around the logistics of it!

[AHLUNGOR]

Heh, I'm actually guilty of this but not with WLs. I really enjoyed giving gifts to my past GFs, but it wasn't for "love".
Over time, I realised the reason I kept doing it was for a combination of "thank you sex" and being able to have passionate sex with a girl while she's wearing a sexy piece of "something" that I saw in the shops. For example, I'd walk past a shop like Stuart Weitzmann, ogle at the sexy girls in the shop buying those sexy long boots. I'd then buy a pair for my GF, and get her to wear them when we have passionate "thank you sex".
I have a thing for legs and shoes, so I've done this with multiple past GFs buying them nice shoes. Always designer shoes, oh my god I dunno how they can design shoes that are so sexy. Gucci, Balenciaga, CL, Chanel, Valentino (rock studs, a miracle of fashion design!)... I love them all.
I haven't done this with a WL before, but only because I couldn't get my head around the logistics of it!


Sexy long boot 👢 like this ??

https://64.media.tumblr.com/74a830248cbd677a0d3e99e8e10eba40/tumblr_pfr67tirN21rhkmmxo1_1280.jpg

[GoldfishMan]

Sexy long boot 👢 like this ??

https://64.media.tumblr.com/74a830248cbd677a0d3e99e8e10eba40/tumblr_pfr67tirN21rhkmmxo1_1280.jpg
Hell yes, bro AHL. In black, on slinky long legs, and a gstring. Best of all, with my GF so no need for condom. Was one of the best fucks of my life.

[Niceguy11]

Well done mate...you will thank yourself...as many wise punters have said MLs and WLs need no saving, they enjoy Thier journey of making money.... at the beginning of their journey they might feel terrible but money changes everything.

Yeah man it does. Its just amazing at how important money is to the girls. When they start in this industry, they need money to survive as they start with nothing. Once they start earning the good money, its very hard for them to get out of the industry. I mean they can quit anytime, nothing is holding them back but the high income is just too much of a incentive for them to stay. They also develop a taste for expensive things like bags and shoes etc.

Personally, I think its good Nelly69 cut off contact with her. I still don't recommend getting into a relationship with a WL. In relation to being friends, it really comes down to a case by case basis. It's hard for me to explain, but if you feel she is legitimate in hanging out with you without the financial gain or wanting to get PR which is hard to determine at first, then sure being friends is fine.

[cuteguy]

Yeah man it does. Its just amazing at how important money is to the girls. When they start in this industry, they need money to survive as they start with nothing. Once they start earning the good money, its very hard for them to get out of the industry. I mean they can quit anytime, nothing is holding them back but the high income is just too much of a incentive for them to stay. They also develop a taste for expensive things like bags and shoes etc.

Personally, I think its good Nelly69 cut off contact with her. I still don't recommend getting into a relationship with a WL. In relation to being friends, it really comes down to a case by case basis. It's hard for me to explain, but if you feel she is legitimate in hanging out with you without the financial gain or wanting to get PR which is hard to determine at first, then sure being friends is fine.

You're spot on Niceguy11. No one is forcing them to work or stay in this industry. Money is the driving force here. I can understand some girls find this line of employment the only means of paying their college fees but when the girls are buying expensive brand name goods then they must be doing well. If they want to live the high life, dine out at expensive restaurants, drink expensive champagne, buy expensive LV bags, fashion accessories or jewellery, travel and stay at 5 star hotels or resorts than you don't feel sorry for them.

It's not easy being in a relationship with a WL. However, if you are able to accept what she does and just hang out and be friends, that's your choice. Let's make it clear. Not every girl is money hungry or bad. There are some that may be nice and don't want to be doing this job all the time and want to have some time out from work. If she accepts you as a friend and expects no financial rewards just because she hangs out with you then it's fine to socialise. On the other hand, where she expects you to pay for everything and get the princess treatment at all times then forget it. Don't waste your time!

[bigfatkilo]

Best advice someone gave me, chase money not women, because women will then chase you.

Good luck and keep it real!

[Niceguy11]

You're spot on Niceguy11. No one is forcing them to work or stay in this industry. Money is the driving force here. I can understand some girls find this line of employment the only means of paying their college fees but when the girls are buying expensive brand name goods then they must be doing well. If they want to live the high life, dine out at expensive restaurants, drink expensive champagne, buy expensive LV bags, fashion accessories or jewellery, travel and stay at 5 star hotels or resorts than you don't feel sorry for them.

It's not easy being in a relationship with a WL. However, if you are able to accept what she does and just hang out and be friends, that's your choice. Let's make it clear. Not every girl is money hungry or bad. There are some that may be nice and don't want to be doing this job all the time and want to have some time out from work. If she accepts you as a friend and expects no financial rewards just because she hangs out with you then it's fine to socialise. On the other hand, where she expects you to pay for everything and get the princess treatment at all times then forget it. Don't waste your time!

Yeah cuteguy, I have accepted her for who she is. I don't really care she is a WL and to be honest, it makes no difference to my friends who are lawyers, doctors and from other backgrounds. When we hang out outside the shop, its just like hanging out with a normal female or male friend. The times that we have gone out for dinner, she haspaid for most of the dinners we have had. I have offered to pay but she has always pulls out her card quickly and pay which sucks because I want to pay.

The more I get to know her, the more I'm being bought back to reality in terms of punting. About 6 weeks ago, my whole thinking on punting was just to fuck, blow and leave. But now my perspective is coming back. To be totally honest, when I do have sex with her now, its extremely hard to do so. She is probably the most beautiful Chinese girl I have laid eyes on and when she dresses up, I can't stop staring at her and telling her how gorgeous she looks. Like seriously, I'm talking like Fan Bing Bing hot for the Chinese girl lovers out there. But back to my point. It's becoming extremely hard to have sex with her. I do get erect and we have sex like normal but its not like it use to be 6 months ago compared to now. It's the same experience, it has always been the same, but I don't know. Maybe I'm disconnecting from the punting side of things since I now know so much about the realities of punting and feel bad ? Best way to put it is it feels like I'm having sex with my Chinese University friend who is also hot but not a WL.

Anyways, I'm happy where its going at the moment. Sooner rather than later, I'll be quitting punting I think. If my regular moves back to China which is probably imminent, then yeah, that will be me done and dusted.

[woods23]

Yeah cuteguy, I have accepted her for who she is. I don't really care she is a WL and to be honest, it makes no difference to my friends who are lawyers, doctors and from other backgrounds. When we hang out outside the shop, its just like hanging out with a normal female or male friend. The times that we have gone out for dinner, she haspaid for most of the dinners we have had. I have offered to pay but she has always pulls out her card quickly and pay which sucks because I want to pay.

The more I get to know her, the more I'm being bought back to reality in terms of punting. About 6 weeks ago, my whole thinking on punting was just to fuck, blow and leave. But now my perspective is coming back. To be totally honest, when I do have sex with her now, its extremely hard to do so. She is probably the most beautiful Chinese girl I have laid eyes on and when she dresses up, I can't stop staring at her and telling her how gorgeous she looks. Like seriously, I'm talking like Fan Bing Bing hot for the Chinese girl lovers out there. But back to my point. It's becoming extremely hard to have sex with her. I do get erect and we have sex like normal but its not like it use to be 6 months ago compared to now. It's the same experience, it has always been the same, but I don't know. Maybe I'm disconnecting from the punting side of things since I now know so much about the realities of punting and feel bad ? Best way to put it is it feels like I'm having sex with my Chinese University friend who is also hot but not a WL.

Anyways, I'm happy where its going at the moment. Sooner rather than later, I'll be quitting punting I think. If my regular moves back to China which is probably imminent, then yeah, that will be me done and dusted.

As hot as Fan Bing Bing? Fck me...you need help right now!!

[Niceguy11]

As hot as Fan Bing Bing? Fck me...you need help right now!!

Yeah woods. She looked absolutely amazing lol.