ML borrowed few K and disappeared /blocked me

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Originally Posted by ColesBag

Odds on the guy in Vietnam owes money to people over there as well. Birds of a feather.

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Lowkey something I’ve noticed in my (very short but very active) punting era, after longer bookings some of the girls open up to me. I’m still pretty young so they kinda treat me like a little bro, which is funny.
A pattern I’ve seen? A lot of them are sending money overseas to a boyfriend or family back home. Some have kids, some don’t. It’s just interesting how common that situation is.

Jap WLs/MLs - have a good looking boyfriend they are funding overseas him and usually no kids

Viet WLs/MLs - have a regular looking boyfriend overseas they are funding and usually have kids

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Originally Posted by andrewv

The real questions are:
(1) stupid men lose money and fall for this trick every day, and
(2) Once you pay, there is zero chance of getting the money back.

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Except neither of those are questions.

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Had he just swapped out two tiny words he could've turned those statements into questions.

1. Do stupid men lose money and fall for this trick every single day?
2. Once you pay, Is there truly zero chance of ever getting the money back?

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Originally Posted by ColesBag

Odds on the guy in Vietnam owes money to people over there as well. Birds of a feather.

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I used to frequent the Star quite a bit and got friendly with a guy who used to pour thousands a day at the baccarat tables. Small world, turns out he's wife was working at Ginza and I was one of her regulars. Was real awkward when we all bumped into each other, but he was all cool with it and even told me to see her more often haha.

Later i even found out they had 2 kids together.

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Originally Posted by Paison

Yes all too common, or a degenerate gambler.

I used to frequent the Star quite a bit and got friendly with a guy who used to pour thousands a day at the baccarat tables. Small world, turns out he's wife was working at Ginza and I was one of her regulars. Was real awkward when we all bumped into each other, but he was all cool with it and even told me to see her more often haha.

Later i even found out they had 2 kids together.

I won't he surprised if this is a similar situation.

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One Vietnamese WL i was fooling around with was telling me the same thing about her dad, how he had two families to two different woman, left her mum to shack up with the other woman and then later that woman dumped him and stolen all his money. He would always message her whilst she was here working asking for money because he would gamble it away and she was always crying because of him, didnt help that he didnt work and was always fishing.

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Originally Posted by Newbieguy2025

Lowkey something I’ve noticed in my (very short but very active) punting era, after longer bookings some of the girls open up to me. I’m still pretty young so they kinda treat me like a little bro, which is funny.
A pattern I’ve seen? A lot of them are sending money overseas to a boyfriend or family back home. Some have kids, some don’t. It’s just interesting how common that situation is.

Jap WLs/MLs - have a good looking boyfriend they are funding overseas him and usually no kids

Viet WLs/MLs - have a regular looking boyfriend overseas they are funding and usually have kids

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These ML's and WL's all have boyfriends and husbands back home but they tell you all that they are single

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Originally Posted by MegaChad

These ML's and WL's all have boyfriends and husbands back home but they tell you all that they are single

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1000% correct.
These girls lie as easily as they breathe. It’s just like a reflex action for them.

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Originally Posted by MegaChad

These ML's and WL's all have boyfriends and husbands back home but they tell you all that they are single

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Nothing wrong with selling the fantasy. Truth is, most of us punters dont want to drop 300/hr if we found out the WL advertised in her early 20s was actually a milf in her 30s with loose hole due to kids and funding a degen overseas.

It only becomes a problem if the WL tries to take that fantasy outside of the shop to try drain some lonely poor schmuck of all he's money.

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Originally Posted by Paison

Nothing wrong with selling the fantasy. Truth is, most of us punters dont want to drop 300/hr if we found out the WL advertised in her early 20s was actually a milf in her 30s with loose hole due to kids and funding a degen overseas.

It only becomes a problem if the WL tries to take that fantasy outside of the shop to try drain some lonely poor schmuck of all he's money.

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In this case that's what happened. Had a DM on here that this ML is still at it, scamming poor guys with her lies of stories to feel sorry for her.

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Originally Posted by JJBlows

One Vietnamese WL i was fooling around with was telling me the same thing about her dad, how he had two families to two different woman, left her mum to shack up with the other woman and then later that woman dumped him and stolen all his money. He would always message her whilst she was here working asking for money because he would gamble it away and she was always crying because of him, didnt help that he didnt work and was always fishing.

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This reminded me few years ago i had a massage with Vietnamese ML. First time seeing her as she was giving me massage we small talk
Eventually she opened up about her situation and why shes doing massages, its because she owes alot of money to loan shark. Shes quite sad about it but i thought about it too and i can see why she would do this cause loan sharks can be deadly, you may see it on the news sometimes either drug related or their family member gambling or borrowing or what not but with loan sharks if you dont pay it off they charge you interest and you end up owing interest too so it piles up! To the point you'll get killed, or forced into smuggling etc.. I know cause my family member was in similar situation.
She opened up how her sons doesn't help her out at all after i told her how i help out with my family similar situation.

Anyway part 2 was just standard HJ, she mention she doesn't offer anything else. I told her she's not gonna make enough with just HJ, she would need to do abit more and if its okay i can give her extra.
she ended up giving me BBBJ, wasnt the best but enough to get me to cum. Paid her extra and she suggested to see her again.
i told her sure next time.

Never went back after that. She was old looking 50's, but her body was fit.

I felt bad for her at that time but people lie so i forgot about it until now..

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Originally Posted by 1inchguy

Eventually she opened up about her situation and why shes doing massages

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Sometimes you're better off limiting with just small talk and never go too deep. Life isn't fair. Just enjoy your transactional time with the WL and just leave it as that.

It's the biggest turn off when you start feeling sorry for the girl, or worst off, she lied through her teeth and conned you emotionally.

Before I go any further, I just want to say this post wasn't meant to smear all MLs. I still visit massage parlours and brothels, not going to stop.

I've met plenty of good people over the years. In fact, two of the women have been instrumental in helping connect some of us and shed some light on whats been going on and spreading word in the community so this doesn't happen again.
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Most of the women are just in the industry to make a living like the rest of us - this post is only about one very vile individual and the pattern several of us have experienced.

Anyway, just in case any of you might be in a similar situation (and still in denial), here’s the pattern we’ve seen:

- Spends time building what feels like a genuine relationship
- Sleeps with the guys and acts like a normal relationship is building
- After a while starts asking for financial help
- Usually begins with small things - couple hundred bucks, bills, gifts, help with travel and when you say you can loan it to her, she will reply ok - sometimes like in my case, she may even pay back the small amount (and come back for an even bigger amount which won't get repaid)
- Amounts slowly get bigger once you've helped a few times
- Seeing several men at the same time who don’t know about each other (big overlap)
- Emotional stories or problems that make you feel bad for her
- If you start asking for the money back or questioning things about where things are going, she ghosts or blocks you
- The guys who don't chase her for the money tend to stay in contact (lighter after she gets money)
- Those same guys often get reapproached again later for more money until they are bled dry and can't give anymore, then she will block them or disappear
- She’ll disappear for a while, then pop back up weeks or months later like nothing ever happened with “hey how have you been” or asking to catch up for coffee
- Thats usually the start of the whole cycle again

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Originally Posted by Legend2000

Before I go any further, I just want to say this post wasn't meant to smear all MLs. I still visit massage parlours and brothels, not going to stop.

I've met plenty of good people over the years. In fact, two of the women have been instrumental in helping connect some of us and shed some light on whats been going on and spreading word in the community so this doesn't happen again.
.
Most of the women are just in the industry to make a living like the rest of us - this post is only about one very vile individual and the pattern several of us have experienced.

Anyway, just in case any of you might be in a similar situation (and still in denial), here’s the pattern we’ve seen:

- Spends time building what feels like a genuine relationship
- Sleeps with the guys and acts like a normal relationship is building
- After a while starts asking for financial help
- Usually begins with small things - couple hundred bucks, bills, gifts, help with travel and when you say you can loan it to her, she will reply ok - sometimes like in my case, she may even pay back the small amount (and come back for an even bigger amount which won't get repaid)
- Amounts slowly get bigger once you've helped a few times
- Seeing several men at the same time who don’t know about each other (big overlap)
- Emotional stories or problems that make you feel bad for her
- If you start asking for the money back or questioning things about where things are going, she ghosts or blocks you
- The guys who don't chase her for the money tend to stay in contact (lighter after she gets money)
- Those same guys often get reapproached again later for more money until they are bled dry and can't give anymore, then she will block them or disappear
- She’ll disappear for a while, then pop back up weeks or months later like nothing ever happened with “hey how have you been” or asking to catch up for coffee
- Thats usually the start of the whole cycle again

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To be honest it sounds like a typical telationship outside punting.
You could meet a girl and the cycle starts there.

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Originally Posted by Legend2000

Before I go any further, I just want to say this post wasn't meant to smear all MLs. I still visit massage parlours and brothels, not going to stop.

I've met plenty of good people over the years. In fact, two of the women have been instrumental in helping connect some of us and shed some light on whats been going on and spreading word in the community so this doesn't happen again.
.
Most of the women are just in the industry to make a living like the rest of us - this post is only about one very vile individual and the pattern several of us have experienced.

Anyway, just in case any of you might be in a similar situation (and still in denial), here’s the pattern we’ve seen:

- Spends time building what feels like a genuine relationship
- Sleeps with the guys and acts like a normal relationship is building
- After a while starts asking for financial help
- Usually begins with small things - couple hundred bucks, bills, gifts, help with travel and when you say you can loan it to her, she will reply ok - sometimes like in my case, she may even pay back the small amount (and come back for an even bigger amount which won't get repaid)
- Amounts slowly get bigger once you've helped a few times
- Seeing several men at the same time who don’t know about each other (big overlap)
- Emotional stories or problems that make you feel bad for her
- If you start asking for the money back or questioning things about where things are going, she ghosts or blocks you
- The guys who don't chase her for the money tend to stay in contact (lighter after she gets money)
- Those same guys often get reapproached again later for more money until they are bled dry and can't give anymore, then she will block them or disappear
- She’ll disappear for a while, then pop back up weeks or months later like nothing ever happened with “hey how have you been” or asking to catch up for coffee
- Thats usually the start of the whole cycle again

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Gold digging is a real talent

Thanks for the update Bro.

This is a stark reminder for all the bros roaming the punting wilderness: keep your wits about you. Romance scams are still alive and thriving. They’ve simply evolved from the old-school model of exchanging emails and photos...to the diamond package that now involves the exchange of body fluids.

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Originally Posted by 1inchguy

To be honest it sounds like a typical telationship outside punting.
You could meet a girl and the cycle starts there.

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my apprentice is always complaining about how little he earns and how much he spends on his GF.

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Originally Posted by JJBlows

my apprentice is always complaining about how little he earns and how much he spends on his GF.

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You should explain the economics of how punting is cheaper. Although at his age the cost per root may still be cheaper with his GF.

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Originally Posted by Legend2000

Before I go any further, I just want to say this post wasn't meant to smear all MLs. I still visit massage parlours and brothels, not going to stop.

I've met plenty of good people over the years. In fact, two of the women have been instrumental in helping connect some of us and shed some light on whats been going on and spreading word in the community so this doesn't happen again.
.
Most of the women are just in the industry to make a living like the rest of us - this post is only about one very vile individual and the pattern several of us have experienced.

Anyway, just in case any of you might be in a similar situation (and still in denial), here’s the pattern we’ve seen:

- Spends time building what feels like a genuine relationship
- Sleeps with the guys and acts like a normal relationship is building
- After a while starts asking for financial help
- Usually begins with small things - couple hundred bucks, bills, gifts, help with travel and when you say you can loan it to her, she will reply ok - sometimes like in my case, she may even pay back the small amount (and come back for an even bigger amount which won't get repaid)
- Amounts slowly get bigger once you've helped a few times
- Seeing several men at the same time who don’t know about each other (big overlap)
- Emotional stories or problems that make you feel bad for her
- If you start asking for the money back or questioning things about where things are going, she ghosts or blocks you
- The guys who don't chase her for the money tend to stay in contact (lighter after she gets money)
- Those same guys often get reapproached again later for more money until they are bled dry and can't give anymore, then she will block them or disappear
- She’ll disappear for a while, then pop back up weeks or months later like nothing ever happened with “hey how have you been” or asking to catch up for coffee
- Thats usually the start of the whole cycle again

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Pardon me. Where's the fucking in all of this?

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Originally Posted by BiggieSmalls

You should explain the economics of how punting is cheaper. Although at his age the cost per root may still be cheaper with his GF.

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I did say it is way cheaper and brought up how some of my married mates are realising what married life really is like, but he will figure it all out like how the rest of us did, life teaches us lessons

I dono about the cheaper part for now cause he tells me he has to pay for dinner, dates, festivals tickets and weekend aways, plus her mood swings and jealousy, she's a fiesty ones from what he tells me and she's already pressuring him to wear a condom now when in the beginning of dating they didnt use them

It does make me wonder with ML’s like this about how they choose their targets? This ML in question was obviously very good and picking her targets and knowing who is going to hand over money to her.
What was it about these guys the ML knew she could work over?

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Originally Posted by Cracker38

It does make me wonder with ML’s like this about how they choose their targets? This ML in question was obviously very good and picking her targets and knowing who is going to hand over money to her.
What was it about these guys the ML knew she could work over?

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A large percentage of punters are likely lonely guys.
She probably tests the waters with the stuff she says to elicit some sort of sympathy, from little to large things like 'oh, I haven't eaten today' to 'oh, I can't afford my rent' etc. If a guy shows any sort of sympathy or offers to help, then she goes from there. Also, the ones who have it as their main goal (to get as much money out of the guy) probably do it like the other scammers do - try it with everyone they meet. 1% success rate is still money in their pocket in the end.

Also, there are also white knight/saviour type of guys who fall in love with the girls and offer to help first.

It's a whole spectrum of people scamming and getting scammed.