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Originally Posted by Phaser74

Keep believin sunshine
I wish i had the gear you are on.

Sane men don’t pay for sex. They get it for free.
Ask 100 normal women. “What do you think about a man who pays for sex?”
Ask 100 married women “What would you think if your husband paid for sex with a prostitute?”

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Why would I ask the most irrational, illogical beings on the planet when I could just ask a man.

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Originally Posted by SGBAnnerley

I wonder when men are going to wake up? Remember, these gals are prostitutes, but I ve seen multiple men on here talking about all the "respect" they deserve.

Not that I have anything against prostitution, but these women are in our country, earning a lot of money tax free, many on a student or some other temporary visa. Some here illegally. They are not victims.

I ve used sex workers in Asia, when I lived and worked there, and here in Brisbane obviously.

These women are not GF or wife material, anyone with a few brain cells knows that. Have your fun and be on your merry way.

The "I want a baby" thing is a trap, so is the "let's get married soon", especially dangerous for men who own mortgage free property, or still have a mortgage.

I had a Chinese ML try the "want to marry soon?" line with me a few years ago, a gal at Woolloongabba, I won't say name or shop, but , it was in 2021. Because I am an Aussie who can speak Chinese it makes it's a lot easier for me to work out how these gals think, you can see right through their BS.

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sadly, true. Not only asians, euros as well.

speaking of tax, its not fair...

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Originally Posted by thunderdome

Interesting. How did U find out she was doing extras? With her working in a shop U had to have suspicions already right? First thing I would have done is find out if the shop is legit only or not. What made U think she has OF account? U could check her phone for the app I guess. But it doesn't really matter now anyway since U are slitting up. At least U got some while it lasted. Water U der the bridge now.

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After we started dating, I noticed some odd behaviours. She worked in a CBD shop twice a week and the other weekdays, in a major shopping centre shop. On the days she worked in the CBD, she dressed differently, didn;t have a uniform (she said she leaves it in the shop); she wore a lot of makeup; and she had a certain purse (which i checked onece after she finished and it was full of cash - even though she said the owners paid her via eft). One night I picked her up and she was coming out of a different shop - one I knew did extras. I asked her about it. She avoided the questions.

Too many red flags. Run away if you can.

Very popular ML gets married two Saturdays ago. Working up until three days before wedding and then back on roster four days later. Probably not overly related to your situation but does show a certain mindset i think.
Of course there could be a perfectly plausible explanation.

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Originally Posted by Fitch

Why would I ask the most irrational, illogical beings on the planet when I could just ask a man.

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If you haven’t learned how to argue with a woman by your age, just give up.
Their logic is not the same as a mans, but its perfectly easy to define.
If you want to learn, listen to women instead of paying immigrants to lick your taint.

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Originally Posted by it ain't me

Very popular ML gets married two Saturdays ago. Working up until three days before wedding and then back on roster four days later. Probably not overly related to your situation but does show a certain mindset i think.
Of course there could be a perfectly plausible explanation.

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Visa, saving for honeymoon, husband is a punter, shes working a legit job now etc.
Why should she give up work cause shes married? This isnt the 1950s

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Originally Posted by Holdan427

After we started dating, I noticed some odd behaviours. She worked in a CBD shop twice a week and the other weekdays, in a major shopping centre shop. On the days she worked in the CBD, she dressed differently, didn;t have a uniform (she said she leaves it in the shop); she wore a lot of makeup; and she had a certain purse (which i checked onece after she finished and it was full of cash - even though she said the owners paid her via eft). One night I picked her up and she was coming out of a different shop - one I knew did extras. I asked her about it. She avoided the questions.

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You poor bastard.
How long until you do this again?

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Originally Posted by SGBAnnerley

Just in regard to "married men
not paying for sex", married men get cleaned out in the family court/divorce courts all the time. They pay more than most other men, a lot don't even get any sex.

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And women get tossed aside when a hot new young thing comes along or the guy gets bored with Vanilla or she puts on weight or she hasnt got time to suck his dick for 30 plus minutes cause of other household obligations.
This isnt a one way system.

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Originally Posted by thunder545454

I don't ask women anything, women are miserable creatures.

Ive dated a few ML they will tell you most customers at shops are married men.

There is an uncomfortable truth no one in society will admit, most of all women, it's that 90% of my mates after their wife has popped out kids, completely loses her sex drive, whatever the reasons they give are valid or not, who cares reality is a womans sex drive goes from 100 to 0 after kids.

Mens sex drive stays the same creating a massive miss match, regardless of womens opinions on it being gross or not, all men in sexless marriages want relief, they don't want a relationship, they don't want complications, they want 45mins of fun to release their pent up sexual energy.

So your assumption most guys who go for hand jobs are some kind of weirdo freaks couldn't be further from the truth there are alot, but the bulk of customers are normal married men.

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Thank you for not rising to my bait.
Ive know many very happy and satisfied women. What goes in goes out.
If you treat a woman well, they will look after you most of the time.

I dont doubt the majority of customers are married men. Some married men are fucked up, some just want some strange with a young hot thing, for some the choice is die inside or feel alive. None of these are sane men.

The single men, what the fuck is going on there? Loads of free strange out there. Dont want commitment or hassle? That happens everywhere with the singles. Not a cent changes hands.

The undateable, unfuckable and repulsive. A very significant portion of punters fit this group. Again. Not sane. Most single women over the age of 35 are just looking for a half decent guy with a job and sanity. A lot of guys cant even clear this low bar.

The bit in bold is my favourite bit. Its true yes, but not the womans fault.
Two main reasons
First, medical science favours expediency in childbirth to the womans emotional and physical needs. Fuck the mother, lets get this kid out safe and sound. From unnecessary c-sections causing severe body issues, to snipping the taint which fucks up a womens nerves down there to using a plunger to all manner of cruelty. Fuck you we have a pipeline. Post partum depression is at all time high and the women blame themselves. Father of the kid doesnt understand and thinks shes just being a moody bitch since becoming a mum. Fuck this shit, im outta here. If a women has control over her childs birth she is way more happier after it and the hormones return to normal levels
Second, men are such dipshits. Shes got to think of feeding the baby in the night, all the dishes, clothes washing, cleaning the house, making dinner etc etc. Shes exhausted. Her responsibilities change after birth.
Man still wants to spill his seed if hes getting raped by satan and getting his foot chopped off.
Do all the chores for her so she has nothing left to do, let her put her feet up, let her have a wine or two to chill and she will blow your brains out.

If a man wants a relationship to work, man up and help out. If she feels appreciated and heard, she will reciprocate.
Life isn't the same anymore for both of you, not just her.
If you want a single life, be single. Dont crack the shits when shes pissed off, tired and needing fucking help.

Most men fucked up somewhere along the way to send them into a massage shop. Mummy didnt love them enough, they didnt want to be a father, they married the wrong woman etc etc. Guys all have an excuse to explain abnormality. Obviously it happens, but men need to take some responsibility for their situation and not just whine. Like a woman.

There are millions of very happily married men who have their shit together. Others suffer in silence. Some top themselves. And some end up getting tossed off by a young immigrant.

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Originally Posted by it ain't me

Very popular ML gets married two Saturdays ago. Working up until three days before wedding and then back on roster four days later. Probably not overly related to your situation but does show a certain mindset i think.
Of course there could be a perfectly plausible explanation.

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Wow. what a story.

Several years ago, an ML, who was not popular but was busy enough to be fully booked, told me that her husband allowed her to see punters outside the shop. She asked me to be a fuck buddy, and I said yes. Also, her husband was also okay with a threesome, but I had to pay for her services at their home. I said NOPE.

The hubby was an engineer with a PhD from the UK, making $4,400 a week before tax at the time. They had met in the shop. he wasn't fugly IMO.

Two years later, while I was still seeing her, she divorced him after visa and took half of the house.

Now, she has quit, gotten a regular job, married a regular guy, and is a mother of one.

we don't do anymore. we weChat once a while.

Run Holdan. Please run.

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Originally Posted by Nonodemerit

Wow. what a story.

Several years ago, an ML, who was not popular but was busy enough to be fully booked, told me that her husband allowed her to see punters outside the shop. She asked me to be a fuck buddy, and I said yes. Also, her husband was also okay with a threesome, but I had to pay for her services at their home. I said NOPE.

The hubby was an engineer with a PhD from the UK, making $4,400 a week before tax at the time. They had met in the shop. he wasn't fugly IMO.

Two years later, while I was still seeing her, she divorced him after visa and took half of the house.

Now, she has quit, gotten a regular job, married a regular guy, and is a mother of one.

we don't do anymore. we weChat once a while.

Run Holdan. Please run.

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I have already left

atta boy! yeah.

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Originally Posted by Phaser74

You poor bastard.
How long until you do this again?

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Save your sage advice

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Originally Posted by Phaser74

Thank you for not rising to my bait.
Ive know many very happy and satisfied women. What goes in goes out.
If you treat a woman well, they will look after you most of the time.

I dont doubt the majority of customers are married men. Some married men are fucked up, some just want some strange with a young hot thing, for some the choice is die inside or feel alive. None of these are sane men.

The single men, what the fuck is going on there? Loads of free strange out there. Dont want commitment or hassle? That happens everywhere with the singles. Not a cent changes hands.

The undateable, unfuckable and repulsive. A very significant portion of punters fit this group. Again. Not sane. Most single women over the age of 35 are just looking for a half decent guy with a job and sanity. A lot of guys cant even clear this low bar.

The bit in bold is my favourite bit. Its true yes, but not the womans fault.
Two main reasons
First, medical science favours expediency in childbirth to the womans emotional and physical needs. Fuck the mother, lets get this kid out safe and sound. From unnecessary c-sections causing severe body issues, to snipping the taint which fucks up a womens nerves down there to using a plunger to all manner of cruelty. Fuck you we have a pipeline. Post partum depression is at all time high and the women blame themselves. Father of the kid doesnt understand and thinks shes just being a moody bitch since becoming a mum. Fuck this shit, im outta here. If a women has control over her childs birth she is way more happier after it and the hormones return to normal levels
Second, men are such dipshits. Shes got to think of feeding the baby in the night, all the dishes, clothes washing, cleaning the house, making dinner etc etc. Shes exhausted. Her responsibilities change after birth.
Man still wants to spill his seed if hes getting raped by satan and getting his foot chopped off.
Do all the chores for her so she has nothing left to do, let her put her feet up, let her have a wine or two to chill and she will blow your brains out.

If a man wants a relationship to work, man up and help out. If she feels appreciated and heard, she will reciprocate.
Life isn't the same anymore for both of you, not just her.
If you want a single life, be single. Dont crack the shits when shes pissed off, tired and needing fucking help.

Most men fucked up somewhere along the way to send them into a massage shop. Mummy didnt love them enough, they didnt want to be a father, they married the wrong woman etc etc. Guys all have an excuse to explain abnormality. Obviously it happens, but men need to take some responsibility for their situation and not just whine. Like a woman.

There are millions of very happily married men who have their shit together. Others suffer in silence. Some top themselves. And some end up getting tossed off by a young immigrant.

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Totally agree can romance your wife into sex, if you disappear the kid, treat her like a first date dress nice, buy a new cologne take her out spin her around, when you get home she will rape your cock off totally agree.

But thats not the issue, the issue men want to fuck their wifes 2-3 times, you can romance her once or twice a month into bed, but what do you do about the other 10 times a month you need to release the poision.

Ive been married in my 30's with a kid and wife went from sex twice a day 5 days a week, pretty much open for sex anytime anywhere, to drier than a desert after a kid.

In my 40's dating women, who are in their 30's without kids, it's back to anytime anywhere any reason get your cock in me as much as possible.

You cannot disagree that the stark difference there is very painful for a man in his 30's who goes from anytime anywhere to zero interest from now till death pretty much overnight, majority don't want to divorce due to financial reasons, so they go for relief via ML.

These are sane men, put in an insane situation doing the best they can, no woman can understand a man sexual desire, if they did they wouldn't brgrudge them going for a jerk off, when they don't want to do it.

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Originally Posted by thunder545454

Totally agree can romance your wife into sex, if you disappear the kid, treat her like a first date dress nice, buy a new cologne take her out spin her around, when you get home she will rape your cock off totally agree.

But thats not the issue, the issue men want to fuck their wifes 2-3 times, you can romance her once or twice a month into bed, but what do you do about the other 10 times a month you need to release the poision.

Ive been married in my 30's with a kid and wife went from sex twice a day 5 days a week, pretty much open for sex anytime anywhere, to drier than a desert after a kid.

In my 40's dating women, who are in their 30's without kids, it's back to anytime anywhere any reason get your cock in me as much as possible.

You cannot disagree that the stark difference there is very painful for a man in his 30's who goes from anytime anywhere to zero interest from now till death pretty much overnight, majority don't want to divorce due to financial reasons, so they go for relief via ML.

These are sane men, put in an insane situation doing the best they can, no woman can understand a man sexual desire, if they did they wouldn't brgrudge them going for a jerk off, when they don't want to do it.

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Thank you for being open.
Lets start with a key point

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Ive been married in my 30's with a kid and wife went from sex twice a day 5 days a week, pretty much open for sex anytime anywhere, to drier than a desert after a kid.

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Was the birth traumatic?
Or natural birth no tearing, no interference, no damage?
Was it a cunty kid wanting a lot of attention?
Did you honestly expect to have wild fuckathons after a kid?

The woman is doing 90% of the child stuff in almost every situation. That takes a lot of time and energy. You go from #2 on her priority list, behind her, to shit on a stick way down the pecking order.

Did you talk to her about your sexual needs and try and find a compromise solution?
Did she know you had a permanent erection and wanted to fuck 24/7?
She feels like shit, fat, ugly and tired. No wonder sex isnt high on her priority list.
You may have to wank a little more, but if she is physically and mentally unscarred from the birth she is likely to be up for it.
Especially if she knows others have their eye on you. She will fight like a tiger if she knows another bitch is hunting her man.

Or you married a cunt if she just flicked a switch and fucked you over after your sperm donation. The cunt was in full display to your friends and family. You just ignored them cause the tail was great.

Honestly how many men do EVERYTHING possible to resolve issues before resorting to massage shops?
How many just crack the shits, say fuck her and mount Miss Japan?

There is fault in relationships on both sides.
The man for not discussing like an adult and working to a compromise in most situations and not understanding a womans massive life complications following a child.
The woman for not understanding the mans needs and his lack of ability to express himself and sudden grouchiness.

Going to a massage shop is the easy out. If you genuinely love the bitch, you will do everything in your power to find a solution that doesnt involve immigrant dick sucking.

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Originally Posted by Phaser74

Thank you for being open.
Lets start with a key point

Was the birth traumatic?
Or natural birth no tearing, no interference, no damage?
Was it a cunty kid wanting a lot of attention?
Did you honestly expect to have wild fuckathons after a kid?

The woman is doing 90% of the child stuff in almost every situation. That takes a lot of time and energy. You go from #2 on her priority list, behind her, to shit on a stick way down the pecking order.

Did you talk to her about your sexual needs and try and find a compromise solution?
Did she know you had a permanent erection and wanted to fuck 24/7?
She feels like shit, fat, ugly and tired. No wonder sex isnt high on her priority list.
You may have to wank a little more, but if she is physically and mentally unscarred from the birth she is likely to be up for it.
Especially if she knows others have their eye on you. She will fight like a tiger if she knows another bitch is hunting her man.

Or you married a cunt if she just flicked a switch and fucked you over after your sperm donation. The cunt was in full display to your friends and family. You just ignored them cause the tail was great.

Honestly how many men do EVERYTHING possible to resolve issues before resorting to massage shops?
How many just crack the shits, say fuck her and mount Miss Japan?

There is fault in relationships on both sides.
The man for not discussing like an adult and working to a compromise in most situations and not understanding a womans massive life complications following a child.
The woman for not understanding the mans needs and his lack of ability to express himself and sudden grouchiness.

Going to a massage shop is the easy out. If you genuinely love the bitch, you will do everything in your power to find a solution that doesnt involve immigrant dick sucking.

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I don't think we fucked much for a year after the kid both too tired, had kid in early 20's man nothing to do with the birth, those first 2-3 years you are a zombie sex isn't on the brain.

Im talking about being in 30's when the kids been in school a few years everyone getting good sleep, everything calm, you got a stay at home wife who is living a life of luxury and the kid at school all day, im talking about at that stage it just never went back to more than 1-2 times a month.

It doesn't matter what talks were had, what was discussed at the end of the day, sth changes within them and they go from pre-kid fucking 5 times a week morning and night to just not having interest in sex.

We had a twice a week cleaner, kid at school, she didn't have to work, nothing going on there was just zero interest.

You can convince yourself, if you do this that and the other it will come back, well for 90% it doesn't, I wanted to fuck I put in place everything she requested over and over, it never changed a dam thing, eventually you work you are chasing a rainbow to no where, oh kids at home when he goes to school it will change, oh house work has me burnt out, get a cleaner, nothing changed, it's all bullshit.

It is what it is, post kids most women not all, but most lose complete interest and men don't, now I date women and go to massage shops whenever the fuck I want to, I don't take any woman seriously, because I know no matter what you provide women don't give a fuck, harsh reality.

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Originally Posted by Holdan427

After we started dating, I noticed some odd behaviours. She worked in a CBD shop twice a week and the other weekdays, in a major shopping centre shop. On the days she worked in the CBD, she dressed differently, didn;t have a uniform (she said she leaves it in the shop); she wore a lot of makeup; and she had a certain purse (which i checked onece after she finished and it was full of cash - even though she said the owners paid her via eft). One night I picked her up and she was coming out of a different shop - one I knew did extras. I asked her about it. She avoided the questions.

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Gee she's not very smart haha. Surprise her one night and go for a massage lol.

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Originally Posted by thunderdome

Gee she's not very smart haha. Surprise her one night and go for a massage lol.

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I did suggest that to her a few times - she declined :)

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Originally Posted by Holdan427

I did suggest that to her a few times - she declined :)

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Don't ask. Just walk in as a paying customer. You've probably already been paying for it. Just need to find out her screen name and book without her knowing.