Going out with ml/wl

99% agree but these ladies are human too, they’re not all completely desensitised robots. Just as us punters are not all unethical degenerates. It’s a tough industry and these girls have seen pretty much everything from us punters, probably scarred for life in terms of their perception of men. But I think there are some genuine ladies too. I’m not saying I want to hookup and have a real relationship with them. I just find it interesting getting to know them and hear their stories. Some of us think these girls are trash with no redeeming qualities. I think that’s a bit harsh.

The problem here is that most of the comments reek of jealousy. It's like seeing a circle of friends trying to drag down that one person who is doing better than the rest.

Why would anyone discuss their love life on a brothel review forum? Unless it's a sex worker who feels lonely, don't want to use dating apps for fear of being judged for their line of work and their only avenue for dating is their regular customers.

Most sex workers I've met who were interested in a relationship are often those who are super insecure. They give the best service in the first few sessions then suddenly go cold and give mediocre services to gauge how much that customer "loves" her. And this is why most of the time sex workers can't get boyfriends.

Love is selfless in nature. A relationship or marriage based on selfish needs will ultimately end when those selfish needs are no longer met. It gets worse if the selfish couple have kids together, the kid will grow up to become juvenile nuisances.

We are in a degenerate age anyways. Women claiming to be independent and strong yet they rob men through the family courts.

Successful relationships are built not with trust but selflessness. When you sacrifice something without expecting anything in return, it comes back to you tenfold. Trust is built over time but selflessness is the spark that kickstarts a relationship.

I'm sure many female sex workers have access to this forum. If you want to convert a regular customer into a boyfriend, you need to start treating him special and go all the way. The only reason why men cheat is because once women turn into girlfriends or wives they don't bother working on the relationship. Men only want women who can give them consistent adoration and physical intimacy. If you keep pushing men away under the pretext of wanting them to desire you more, you'll surely lose them for good.

It's like dangling a carrot in front of a horse - if you don't allow the horse to have a nibble and you overwork it, the horse will surely force you off its back. I ride horses and from experience, they're like us humans, therefore the reason why I treat both humans and animals with respect.

@JohnJones, Your post was really insightful. Thanks for sharing.

If you are not in a relationship that you want to jeopardise then why not give it a try, particularly if you have spare cash to burn?

I haven't done it except for two intense flings in Thailand. Good know where they might of gone if I was living there. I think there are blokes there who suffer saviour syndrome and end up trying to address the whole reason why they are WLs which is a big poor family.

In Australia the ML and WLss who seemed most keen to me are the ones who do the work for a living at the cheaper places. They are time poor and probably bored day in day out stuck in their windowless rooms. They are keen for experiences outside the shop eg going on a trip to a beach or going out for dinner somewhere interesting and being spoilt a little. If you do this I wouldn't expect sex as the last thing they might want to do in their precious free time is have sex. If they want to reward you then great as they know all punters like sex.

[QUOTE=Jamit;2739670]If you are not in a relationship that you want to jeopardise then why not give it a try, particularly if you have spare cash to burn? [QUOTE]

Because you have to be okay with the girl still fucking tons of guys day and night I'm sure a lot of guys on here think they can deal with that but in reality they can't.

Whats the advantage of having a mistress rather than punting different girls every week? I speak from experience my mistress does give me fantastic bbbjs every week. There is no emotion love wise involved. We are friends but we don't know everything about each other. We don't date. We keep things in private.

although I do punt as well I find things often go better when I am with my mistress we both know what each other wants and the boundaries. But I still like to try different gals.

Not saying that WGs are trash or any lesser a human being than non-WGs, but the nature of their work has a profound impact on how they value sexual intimacy, makes them standout as a woman.

For example, if a girl has only ever had sex with one man her whole life up to a point in time, then the next man that she "gives it to" would also be very important to her. Her perception would still be "if I have sex with this guy, then his value to me is similar level to the only previous guy I've done it with". Then as time goes by and she has more different sex partners, the value of sex to her becomes more and more diluted.

WGs are at the extreme end of the spectrum, where their perception of the value of sex would be massively diluted. I suspect that a successful relationship with a WG might turn out to be a lot less about sex than many of us would like to think!

The irony is, another type of person is also in this end of the spectrum: longtime punters. I'm one of them, been punting (and fucking around!) for close to 30 years now. After having sex with countless different girls, sex to me is now almost completely separated from "love". I would ogle at girls on the street or WGs in shops, I'd be happy to fuck them, but do I love any of them? No. Can I grow to love them? Not likely at all, or it could happen but it wouldn't be because of the sex.

Having sex, to me, is just no longer the same "be all and end all" of a relationship anymore.

It's a fascinating microcosm we have between us, punters and WGs.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Not saying that WGs are trash or any lesser a human being than non-WGs, but the nature of their work has a profound impact on how they value sexual intimacy, makes them standout as a woman.

For example, if a girl has only ever had sex with one man her whole life up to a point in time, then the next man that she "gives it to" would also be very important to her. Her perception would still be "if I have sex with this guy, then his value to me is similar level to the only previous guy I've done it with". Then as time goes by and she has more different sex partners, the value of sex to her becomes more and more diluted.

WGs are at the extreme end of the spectrum, where their perception of the value of sex would be massively diluted. I suspect that a successful relationship with a WG might turn out to be a lot less about sex than many of us would like to think!

The irony is, another type of person is also in this end of the spectrum: longtime punters. I'm one of them, been punting (and fucking around!) for close to 30 years now. After having sex with countless different girls, sex to me is now almost completely separated from "love". I would ogle at girls on the street or WGs in shops, I'd be happy to fuck them, but do I love any of them? No. Can I grow to love them? Not likely at all, or it could happen but it wouldn't be because of the sex.

Having sex, to me, is just no longer the same "be all and end all" of a relationship anymore.

It's a fascinating microcosm we have between us, punters and WGs.

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Agree 👍 If you base your relationships about or solely on the sex, then you are going to have a lot of short relationships 😎

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Originally Posted by trampslikeus55

Agree 👍 If you base your relationships about or solely on the sex, then you are going to have a lot of short relationships 😎

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I once had a WL tell me "if you want to make babies with me, you'd have to marry me". I said to her "will you be my wife?..... For 1 hour". She laughed so hard her pussy farted!

Remember you don't pay to attend the booking, you pay so you can leave at the end

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I’ve had a working girl ask me if I was born in Australia, what I do for a living, how old I am, how much I make a year… then she asked for my WeChat and phone number…

After 10 visits and her going above and beyond with her great customer service, Then she asked me out on a date…

Thinking about it. I ultimately said no thank you. … some time later she now quit being a working girl and now has a regular job… I still think about her … I think I made the right decision in saying no.. she would have just used me for money… or would have left after finding someone better than me …

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Originally Posted by NightShift

I’ve had a working girl ask me if I was born in Australia, what I do for a living, how old I am, how much I make a year… then she asked for my WeChat and phone number…
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That sounds like a dating application form. Surprised she did not ask you where do you see yourself in 10 years.

Should tell the next girl your a investor business man with your own business. See how quickly she will try to latch on to you. You did the right thing saying no to her. 10 visits is a lot to punt on one girl.

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Originally Posted by NightShift

I’ve had a working girl ask me if I was born in Australia, what I do for a living, how old I am, how much I make a year… then she asked for my WeChat and phone number…

After 10 visits and her going above and beyond with her great customer service, Then she asked me out on a date…

Thinking about it. I ultimately said no thank you. … some time later she now quit being a working girl and now has a regular job… I still think about her … I think I made the right decision in saying no.. she would have just used me for money… or would have left after finding someone better than me …

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Does it matter if you're locally born? Many girls wouldn't care if you're a citizen or permanent resident as long as you haven't sponsored a spouse in the past 5 years.

Not sure how loaded you are but if you're one of those simps giving out random expensive gifts and/or random tips then of course she'd be using you. A few in the past had asked me for gifts on their birthday, when I gift them silver earrings they weren't too happy because silver is too cheap for them.

One tip when looking for a future partner regardless of her line of work - walk away when she demands that you see/book her more than once a week, asks for brand new high-end designer brands or really expensive gold/diamond jewellery as a gift. She should be happy with gifts that come from the heart.

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Originally Posted by JohnJones

One tip when looking for a future partner regardless of her line of work - walk away when she demands that you see/book her more than once a week, asks for brand new high-end designer brands or really expensive gold/diamond jewellery as a gift. She should be happy with gifts that come from the heart.

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This is very good advice. And a bummer now a days because the influence of social media, this kind of girl is rare now a days. Especially when they still under 30. So for bros who still under 30 it will be hard for them. Ussually these girls realized they got all wrong after their 30. So yeah it is a tough market out there atm.

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Originally Posted by PKING2

This is very good advice. And a bummer now a days because the influence of social media, this kind of girl is rare now a days. Especially when they still under 30. So for bros who still under 30 iy will be hard for them. Ussually these girls realized they got all wrong after their 30. So yeah it is a tough market out there atm.

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We are in degenerate times. This is the time when people think spiritual practice isn't important, but they don't realise that by aligning themselves towards a life of honesty, integrity, gratefulness and selflessness - wealth will naturally follow. Because who in the world wants to give money to fake people and dishonest establishments?

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This is very good advice. And a bummer now a days because the influence of social media, this kind of girl is rare now a days. Especially when they still under 30. So for bros who still under 30 it will be hard for them. Ussually these girls realized they got all wrong after their 30. So yeah it is a tough market out there atm.

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In regards to dating - maybe with millennials but with zoomers, they value authenticity, healthy mental well-being, shit like that.

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Originally Posted by JohnJones

Does it matter if you're locally born? Many girls wouldn't care if you're a citizen or permanent resident as long as you haven't sponsored a spouse in the past 5 years.

Not sure how loaded you are but if you're one of those simps giving out random expensive gifts and/or random tips then of course she'd be using you. A few in the past had asked me for gifts on their birthday, when I gift them silver earrings they weren't too happy because silver is too cheap for them.

One tip when looking for a future partner regardless of her line of work - walk away when she demands that you see/book her more than once a week, asks for brand new high-end designer brands or really expensive gold/diamond jewellery as a gift. She should be happy with gifts that come from the heart.

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Thanks for the tips..

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Originally Posted by bleekpit

A tiny bit unrelated but also connected to one of the answers previously about accidentally bumping into ML or WL outside of the shop.

How likely is this to happen? I guess unless you've met 100s of ML/WL. Just a question out of curiosity lol

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I've bumped into 3 locally. One I happily say hello to even if I'm with my partner, the other 2 it's just a knowing look if they or I are with partners

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Originally Posted by TheOtherI

I’ve done it a couple of times, I get the feeling they are just lonely, or a little homesick. Due to their work hours I think it makes it hard to organically make friends, especially if they are new to the country.

The few times I did spend time with them it didn’t involve anything sexual, just dinner and conversation, or even just a coffee and a walk around a park.

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This is pretty well on the mark.

They often don't have much of a life outside the shops. Some are probably genuinely wanting a relationship and a way out of the business, others just some company, and then there are others looking to take you for a ride.

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Originally Posted by NightShift

I’ve had a working girl ask me if I was born in Australia, what I do for a living, how old I am, how much I make a year… then she asked for my WeChat and phone number…

After 10 visits and her going above and beyond with her great customer service, Then she asked me out on a date…

Thinking about it. I ultimately said no thank you. … some time later she now quit being a working girl and now has a regular job… I still think about her … I think I made the right decision in saying no.. she would have just used me for money… or would have left after finding someone better than me …

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Similar to you but no date. Have been seeing regular for almost two years now. All professional, I never ask her out etc I just like the way she grinds her pussy on me and her possible fake moans is enough to get me going. We don't talk outside of her work. However she opened discuss about wanting to stay in Australia cause her visa is finishing soon and I had a feeling she may ask me. Long story short she hyped herself up saying any guy that would be with her would be lucky cause she would treat him like a king etc then asked about my status, was I born here and then asked if I'm interested in partnership visa. At least take me out first lol

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Similar to you but no date. Have been seeing regular for almost two years now. All professional, I never ask her out etc I just like the way she grinds her pussy on me and her possible fake moans is enough to get me going. We don't talk outside of her work. However she opened discuss about wanting to stay in Australia cause her visa is finishing soon and I had a feeling she may ask me. Long story short she hyped herself up saying any guy that would be with her would be lucky cause she would treat him like a king etc then asked about my status, was I born here and then asked if I'm interested in partnership visa. At least take me out first lol

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Yeah, she fucked up.. she should of at least took you out once and given you a freebie THEN ask you about the visa thing..

Been out with a Mongolian ML once .... saw her 3 times in the shop, great massage, rimming and BBBJ. Went out for Saturday afternoon lunch, then to my place .... fucking stunning sex on the bed in front of my double wardrobe mirrors, everything on, including my toys, except anal penetration. One of the best oral sex sessions I have had with a big cum in her mouth, then BBFS CIP for round 2. Memorable, but the week later she moved way out to the western suburbs, then COVID came shortly after ... never seen or heard anything about her since.

Also been asked to "go drink beer together" or "go eat food together" by about 4 or 5 chinese ML's over a few years before COVID .... but no such invites at all since the shops reopened after COVID .... must be losing my touch, lol .

I've had lots of working girls messaging me in the past. Most of them are asking for money. Usually what they do is asking me how am I doing once or twice, then they will ask for help. For example asking to buy her some foods through uber eats or asking birthday gift. I don't usually reply once she's asking for anything.

There are some girls who genuinely just wanted to chat or hang out though, they share what they like and usually asking a lot about Australia. Some of them even messaged me everyday just to have a casual chat. In my experience this never lasts, I guess you are only her friend until a better friend comes along.

Once this happens I usually get ghosted and end of story.

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I've had lots of working girls messaging me in the past. Most of them are asking for money. Usually what they do is asking me how am I doing once or twice, then they will ask for help. For example asking to buy her some foods through uber eats or asking birthday gift. I don't usually reply once she's asking for anything.

There are some girls who genuinely just wanted to chat or hang out though, they share what they like and usually asking a lot about Australia. Some of them even messaged me everyday just to have a casual chat. In my experience this never lasts, I guess you are only her friend until a better friend comes along.

Once this happens I usually get ghosted and end of story.

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Messaging WLs is a lot like internet dating, initially they’ll message you all the time & wanna hang out etc, then all of a sudden, nada.

Much like internet dating, you’re just no longer the flavour of the week haha

It is what it is :)

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Originally Posted by cuteguy

Once a girl asks for money, it's best to move away from her. You don't want to be her ATM when she doesn't make ends meet when working at various shops. Don't think that you're her only special guy she's asked for money. If you give in once then she'll ask again and probably won't return the money. In summary, best to avoid when a girl wants financial assistance.

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Great advice Cuteguy!
This is my rule too. I've just had to let go a really good girl who I had mind blowing sessions with. She has just started asking me for money. In my experience if you give in once it just opens up the floodgates!! Instant red flag.
Got to remember that these girls are making a lot more money than most of us on this forum.