Reply With QuoteI've bumped into 3 locally. One I happily say hello to even if I'm with my partner, the other 2 it's just a knowing look if they or I are with partnersOriginally Posted by bleekpit
Thanks for the tips..
I've bumped into 3 locally. One I happily say hello to even if I'm with my partner, the other 2 it's just a knowing look if they or I are with partners
This is pretty well on the mark.
They often don't have much of a life outside the shops. Some are probably genuinely wanting a relationship and a way out of the business, others just some company, and then there are others looking to take you for a ride.
Similar to you but no date. Have been seeing regular for almost two years now. All professional, I never ask her out etc I just like the way she grinds her pussy on me and her possible fake moans is enough to get me going. We don't talk outside of her work. However she opened discuss about wanting to stay in Australia cause her visa is finishing soon and I had a feeling she may ask me. Long story short she hyped herself up saying any guy that would be with her would be lucky cause she would treat him like a king etc then asked about my status, was I born here and then asked if I'm interested in partnership visa. At least take me out first lol
Yeah, she fucked up.. she should of at least took you out once and given you a freebie THEN ask you about the visa thing..
Been out with a Mongolian ML once .... saw her 3 times in the shop, great massage, rimming and BBBJ. Went out for Saturday afternoon lunch, then to my place .... fucking stunning sex on the bed in front of my double wardrobe mirrors, everything on, including my toys, except anal penetration. One of the best oral sex sessions I have had with a big cum in her mouth, then BBFS CIP for round 2. Memorable, but the week later she moved way out to the western suburbs, then COVID came shortly after ... never seen or heard anything about her since.
Also been asked to "go drink beer together" or "go eat food together" by about 4 or 5 chinese ML's over a few years before COVID .... but no such invites at all since the shops reopened after COVID .... must be losing my touch, lol .
I've had lots of working girls messaging me in the past. Most of them are asking for money. Usually what they do is asking me how am I doing once or twice, then they will ask for help. For example asking to buy her some foods through uber eats or asking birthday gift. I don't usually reply once she's asking for anything.
There are some girls who genuinely just wanted to chat or hang out though, they share what they like and usually asking a lot about Australia. Some of them even messaged me everyday just to have a casual chat. In my experience this never lasts, I guess you are only her friend until a better friend comes along.
Once this happens I usually get ghosted and end of story.
Messaging WLs is a lot like internet dating, initially they’ll message you all the time & wanna hang out etc, then all of a sudden, nada.
Much like internet dating, you’re just no longer the flavour of the week haha
It is what it is
Great advice Cuteguy!
This is my rule too. I've just had to let go a really good girl who I had mind blowing sessions with. She has just started asking me for money. In my experience if you give in once it just opens up the floodgates!! Instant red flag.
Got to remember that these girls are making a lot more money than most of us on this forum.
Ok before I start my story, I wanna say that there are three signs indicating imminent danger
1. WG has a pattern of asking financial assistance with increasing frequency and no intention to pay back
2. WG asks expensive jewelry and design brands
3. WG asks about your residential status and your willingness to sponsor her visa (partner sponsorship)
When you notice these signs, red flag up, mission abort and run!
I have been hanging out with this Chinese WG almost a year. We are from the same place (hometown), but she is from more of the rural area. She asked for my WeChat after me seeing her the sixth time. We started messaging each other, then I asked her out. Be honest, I would not do it, if we were not from the same place. It’s just too risky if the WG is from another nationality. The Aussie-Thai/Indonesian/Korean WG couple does not normally end well. Nothing racial here.
We started dating, dinner, drinks, Chinese movies (her English is quite limited, so we can only watch Chinese movies in cinema). After we were closer, she started visiting my place. In one occasion, she even did some cooking for me. We also went short trips (like Wollongong, Hunter Valley). We know each other pretty well now (legal names, DOBs, where we worked, how much we earn, etc) except that she never told me where she lives. Considering she is living with some illegal migrants, it is understandable that she has such protocol.
We did get into fight (not relating to her line of work) occasionally, and I was so pissed off and asked her to delete my contact once. Lucky she didn’t do it.
When we spent time together, we did have sex. But I did not initiate it and only did it when she gave the clear signal.
We give each other gifts from time to time (i.e. Xmas, birthday etc). I bought her a Kate Spade wallet, she would buy me a Tommy Hifilger jacket. If I bought her some tableware, she would buy me some home decoration. She paid for things when we were out too. Like when we stayed in Hunter Valley, she took care of all food bills since I booked the accommodation.
Money wise, sometimes she asked my help to send money ($10k, $20k, etc) home to pay off her debts (banks and private loans - it’s common in China). Clearly she doesn’t know how to use NetBank and mobile apps. I use Remitly or Panda remit, sometimes the Foreign Exchange agency in Chinatown). She told me that she felt safe for me to handle this for her. There was one time she even asked me to keep her cash like $30k in my place for a few days (she used to live in a house with landlord, and they had a dispute, the landlord wanted to kick her out. She kept all her money home and was worried that the landlord might break in and took the money).
This definitely took an emotional toll, as it is not pleasant to know that the girl you are fond of sucked dicks and gets fucked in different positions 10 times in a row everyday. It took a heavy toll on her as well. She told me that this line of work completely changed her perception of sex and people’s character (she called it the line work without any morality and bottom line). Sometimes when she felt too much pressure, she might snap and stay in bed for an entire day.
Her family is pretty fucked up as far as I know. But there is one thing she keeps away from me that is she has not divorced yet and has a 7-year old kid. I actually know it because one of my schoolmate is a senior manager in her old place of work in China. I asked her a few times and also gave indication that I actually knew it like “I don’t mind that you are a mum”. She neither admitted nor denied, and always kept silent or said things like: “if you believe that is the case, so be it.” If she trusted me with her cash, why not just be open about it? I don’t know……
Now I’m not sure how this would eventually turn out. She did ask me if I had a gf or wife or ever sponsored anyone when we went out the first time. But never asked anything about visa sponsorship again. If she is fishing, then I’m definitely not a big fish in pond although I do have a decent job, an apartment (with mortgage!) and an Aussie passport. Sometimes I felt like she’s like my younger sister (but in a twisted way, coz you are not supposed to sleep with your sister).
I reckon in her situation, she definitely wants something out of me. Maybe she just needs some support/comfort here or she has not made her mind yet, or she is planning something in a longer term or she will eventually return to her husband and kid and we just say goodbye and never meet again. If she tells me everything I need to know, I don’t mind giving her a ticket out. But I’m not sure what she is up to.
All comments are welcome, fellow punters, but please do not judge.
You got in pretty deep with one, exactly what ppl here dissuade others to do. I could have gotten into such situation in the past, and who knows, maybe in the future lol. It can definitely mess with your head for sure. You just gotta enjoy the moments while it lasts because nothing lasts forever.
Been there, done that twice. My lesson is to enjoy the moment but not fall in love with her. The fact that she is a WL will mess up your head badly.
Did you ever read reviews on her?
I feel like I’d be too insecure to be able to do that.
Totally agree! Setting a boundaries for yourself is very important. Go to the shops for a punt. If people want to build social connections, they should do that with a GF or wife.
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You cannot have real relationship with ml/wl, only if she stops working as ml/wl and have new work, or study etc. can be possible [ possible no certain ]. Any girl who is working as ml /wl, you can be friend with her, you can be sugar daddy / papa / sponsor or just lovers.
Anyone who think that can be in real relationship with ml / wl lies to himself, he lives in illusion, most probably because has low self esteem, he is desperate [ any kind of desperation ] or other psychological reasons.
Any ml/wl has many phone numbers on her mobile ... customers will take her for holidays, dinner / watch a show, shopping or just for coffee and talk. Of course most of these girls will never tell you that they see another 3 men, except few.
p.s. in few cases the customer and the ml/wl doing business ... the customer helping her for the visa and she is giving to him sex and take care of him [ sometimes the ml also giving money to him ] for 3 years [ the time for the PR ] or few customers accept to have baby with the ml/wl so she can take the PR in 6 months, also that involves payment from the girl to him.
Debt is number one factor to why girls join this industry.
had this Vietnamese ml working on me and told me she was in huge debt with loan sharks, the type that would harm and also huge interest on the loans. I hear these type of sharks before from relatives and personal experience from my parents. Its a pain and headache to deal with.
I know how much she owes the bank (approx Chinese Yuan 650k), but she never told me how much the private loan is. Asked before, but she said she won’t tell me. She did not borrow money from loan sharks, but from friends and relatives. I think it is probably due to her family issues which I’m not going to elaborate here. I reckon her total debt might exceed 1 million Chinese Yuan. Well at least she is not paying those crazy interests and no life threatening loan sharks after her, which is much better than some of the girls.
I know how much she owes the bank (approx Chinese Yuan 650k), she has paid back 350k so far. But she never told me how much the private loan is. Asked before, but she said she won’t tell me. She did not borrow money from loan sharks, but from friends and relatives. I think it is probably due to her family issues which I’m not going to elaborate here. I reckon her total debt might exceed 1 million Chinese Yuan when I first met her. Well at least she is not paying those crazy interests and no life threatening loan sharks after her, which is much better than some of the girls.
Bro, thanks for sharing your story.
I think you've summed up very well the 2 most complicated aspects of dating a WG as a known customer.
As you started dating her after seeing her as a customer, you know and she knows that you know, that she's a WG. On your part, it does your head in as you said, but the flip side is she can at least be more open about this part of her life, so your relationship has a better chance of flourishing.
I think she doesn't want to open up about the family status back home because she might view what she has here with you as a way to "escape" her troubles there. Even if it is only mental or temporary escape. She can live a life of romance and love here and now, far away from all that trouble. Just let her enjoy it, bro, don't push too much about it unless you plan on marrying her.
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