What Japanese sex workers think of punters

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

It is only a tough gig because 99% of the customers they see are old, fat and ugly. And this is a fact. Imagine having to have sex with old, fat, ugly men all day. And having to do doubles & group sex with old, fat, ugly men.

Now switch it around. If the customers were all young and handsome, these Japanese WL's would be loving their job. Being paid to have sex with hot guys. They will be getting paid to have sex with guys they would have slept with for free anyway.

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Have to agree on this one. The amount of old, fat ugly customers entering and leaving literally makes you to vomit. Alot of the girls told me before they feel like they are being raped when someone is over 10 years older than them and one time I even saw a girl saying im not having sex with anyone near and over 35 or else they will quit to their boss. I never understood why anyone will even remotely think they are actually loved by these girls when they just lie and pretend. I said this before as well where one girl walked out and said bye with a smile to another customer but when she turned around she literally made a vomit angry face.

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Originally Posted by Becareful

Have to agree on this one. The amount of old, fat ugly customers entering and leaving literally makes you to vomit. Alot of the girls told me before they feel like they are being raped when someone is over 10 years older than them and one time I even saw a girl saying im not having sex with anyone near and over 35 or else they will quit to their boss. I never understood why anyone will even remotely think they are actually loved by these girls when they just lie and pretend. I said this before as well where one girl walked out and said bye with a smile to another customer but when she turned around she literally made a vomit angry face.

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Not sure which shops you two are going too but I have worked in high end western shops like penthouse, worked in asian shops and had 48 kellett a few years ago and I would say for the most part the customers are between average and good looking, yes a few are fat and old but its not 99%. Never once felt the need to vomit from any customers apperance. Feels like being raped because a customer is 10 years older? You for real? You say alot? This is my first time ever hearing such a thing. All that the girl sees is dollar signs unless you smell bad then she might feel the need to vomit.

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

It is only a tough gig because 99% of the customers they see are old, fat and ugly. And this is a fact. Imagine having to have sex with old, fat, ugly men all day. And having to do doubles & group sex with old, fat, ugly men.

Now switch it around. If the customers were all young and handsome, these Japanese WL's would be loving their job. Being paid to have sex with hot guys. They will be getting paid to have sex with guys they would have slept with for free anyway.

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99% is not true and its not a fact. Its a tough gig because its the service industry, all service jobs are tough. They love the money not the sex, the act of sex means nothing to them weather you are hot or not. You could be a hot guy and her type in the looks department but she could prefer the old guy because he tips well and treats her well. It is a customer service JOB after all and in customer service jobs we have our favourite customers based on how they treat us and if they tip us or buy gifts etc its never based on looks. There is already a thread on PP about this kind of stuff and the actual working girls respond or give input to any questions punters have.

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Originally Posted by Abs90

99% is not true and its not a fact. Its a tough gig because its the service industry, all service jobs are tough. They love the money not the sex, the act of sex means nothing to them weather you are hot or not. You could be a hot guy and her type in the looks department but she could prefer the old guy because he tips well and treats her well. It is a customer service JOB after all and in customer service jobs we have our favourite customers based on how they treat us and if they tip us or buy gifts etc its never based on looks. There is already a thread on PP about this kind of stuff and the actual working girls respond or give input to any questions punters have.

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lol dude, did you forget about this troll?
btw watch out if he ends up at your shop - he might end up stalking one of your girls

Chad is such a fucking retard.

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Originally Posted by ColesBag

Chad is such a fucking retard.

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Just put him on your ignore list.
He probably loves the attention.

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Originally Posted by carmen farquis

Just put him on your ignore list.
He probably loves the attention.

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What does adding to ignore list actually do? I did it with someone once but I kept seeing their shit.

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Originally Posted by SlippinJimmy

I've heard repeatedly from girls on forums and personally they like older guys, they get treated better, longer booking and easier sex. They aren't there to date guys.

Younger tend to be cheaper due to lack of funds and often rag doll everything into a 30 min booking lol.

Overall who cares what they think, it's a service, treat them well and most of time it'll be reciprocated.

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Of course they will say it to you old people, its not like they can say that infront of your face. You cant tell whats fake from your delusions but they say otherwise to us. Its their job to pretend to like you old guys since you are the most easy to manupulate. It made me laugh because alot of them told me how they pretend to be nice and like all these old people so that they gift them luxury items just so they can resell it. No need to get offended because you guys relate, im just stating what alot told me :shout:

Even outside of punting women take some men for a ride and it’s been that way since time eternal.

They have nothing, want something and see a gullible man as an easy meal ticket.

I see it every day, stupid men being used by women who have nothing.

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Originally Posted by SlippinJimmy

I ain't old bro, just not a simp.

The only problem here is you caring what a whore thinks of you lol 😂

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Whatever you say gramps! Keep thinking you aint old.

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Originally Posted by Abs90

99% is not true and its not a fact. Its a tough gig because its the service industry, all service jobs are tough. They love the money not the sex, the act of sex means nothing to them weather you are hot or not. You could be a hot guy and her type in the looks department but she could prefer the old guy because he tips well and treats her well. It is a customer service JOB after all and in customer service jobs we have our favourite customers based on how they treat us and if they tip us or buy gifts etc its never based on looks. There is already a thread on PP about this kind of stuff and the actual working girls respond or give input to any questions punters have.

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It's always about looks. Its been proven that good looking people tend to get treated better in general by everyone, including "customer service" people.

Everyone prefers good looking people. Its just how it is...

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Originally Posted by SlippinJimmy

I've heard repeatedly from girls on forums and personally they like older guys, they get treated better, longer booking and easier sex. They aren't there to date guys.

Younger tend to be cheaper due to lack of funds and often rag doll everything into a 30 min booking lol.

Overall who cares what they think, it's a service, treat them well and most of time it'll be reciprocated.

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This is what they will tell all these sad old men. They're delusional and gullible enough to believe it.

The same way Old Bald Fat Farangs believe it when a Thai hooker tells him that he is handsome and that she "prefers" an older man. But she is just using him for money while she is sleeping with young hot guys for free behind his back 555

Old, fat, ugly men are really gullible. I guess the loneliness and desperation messes with their minds.

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Originally Posted by Becareful

Have to agree on this one. The amount of old, fat ugly customers entering and leaving literally makes you to vomit.

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What sort of a weirdo creep lurks around watching customers entering and leaving a brothel?

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Originally Posted by Becareful

Alot of the girls told me before they feel like they are being raped when someone is over 10 years older than them

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What sort of creepy tosser talks to girls about their other customers and believes everything they're told by girls who just lie and pretend? Are these the same girls who stole money from your wallet, or short-changed you on time, or gave you STIs and fungal infections?

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Originally Posted by Becareful

and one time I even saw a girl saying im not having sex with anyone near and over 35 or else they will quit to their boss.

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So you saw a girl go up to her boss (who? The receptionist? The shop owner?) in public where she could be seen and heard by customers (or were you just creepily lurking around again?) and specifically say no sex with over 35 yo or she'll quit? Really. So what happened next? Did her boss laugh in her face? Fire her on the spot? Chew her out for being disrespectful and unprofessional? Or agree and add 'No Over 35' to her profile? Did you write about it in your journal? Sounds like bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Becareful

I never understood why anyone will even remotely think they are actually loved by these girls when they just lie and pretend.

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Which idiots think they're loved by sex workers? Seems to mainly be younger guys who think they're the special ones that the girls can really confide in and relate to. You really understand them right? Most old guys have seen too much to think that way.

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Originally Posted by Becareful

I said this before as well where one girl walked out and said bye with a smile to another customer but when she turned around she literally made a vomit angry face.

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What sort of weird lurker watches sex workers walking out of the room and saying bye to other customers? And what does a vomit angry face look like? Do girls make it to you a lot?


Anyway, don't worry about it too much, puberty can be a weird time - you'll get through it and be a man soon.

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Originally Posted by SlippinJimmy

I've heard repeatedly from girls on forums and personally they like older guys, they get treated better, longer booking and easier sex. They aren't there to date guys.

Younger tend to be cheaper due to lack of funds and often rag doll everything into a 30 min booking lol.

Overall who cares what they think, it's a service, treat them well and most of time it'll be reciprocated.

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Probably most people will figure this out on their own (except the guy who's balls are yet to drop, and Chad), but most people have some amount of confirmation bias; most people tend to gravitate towards people who express similar beliefs to them and avoid those who don't; and telling customers what they want to hear is pretty much part of the job for sex workers. So the young idiot who can't conceal his extreme gerontophobia is going to have sex workers tell him, 'yes, I hate old people too, yes I agree, sex with this IS like being raped by a paedophile, yes 35 is soooo old right?' And the old fool who's insecure about what these young women are going to think of his deteriorating body is going to hear, 'oh no, I prefer older men, they're so polite and gentle and wise, like you.'

What's true? Either, neither, both - As you said, who cares? Absolutely agree with your last sentence.

You still mad at me gramps? :miao:

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Originally Posted by Becareful

You still mad at me gramps? :miao:

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Nah little buddy, you know an old guy like me doesnt have a good enough memory to still be mad at you.

I’m just wondering why you keep making things up that just make you look like a creepy loser and a simp. But you do you.

Back to topic, whether the punter is young, old or feeble, we are just a cash machine for the worker. Please don’t fool yourself. These girls are in desperate need of money. The interaction has nothing to do with you. It’s only about money.

Imagine sex work only being about money. Shocking right ?

This thread has become a bit worrying.

It has been said time and time again over many years that some punters seem to miss the point that going to massage shops and brothels is all about paying $$$$ to get our rocks off, and the girls do it ONLY to collect $$$$$..

If the punter is young or old, muscle builder or fat, handsome or ugly, the girl's mission is to do the least amount of work, as soon as possible, to get the man's rocks off, and see him leave before the time is up. They don't want to form rapport, emotional intimacy or any connection with punters.

Just think about it, to make maximum dollars she has to massage and/or fuck 10 to 15 men every day at work. Do you really think you are special compared to the 50 to 80 men she will service each and every week at work?? Seriously???

When the girls go home, they don't miss you. They don't look forward to you coming back to receive an amazing orgasm from you. Only the $$$$$$.

It is sad to see some punters wanting their ego strokes and to be validated by bragging about how they gave the girl an orgasm. No working girl goes to work in a shop hoping to fuck 10 to 25 men in the following 12 hours and to receive an orgasm from any of them.

Punters who love going down on a girl and getting her vagina's bacteria (and that of men who've been inside her too) into their mouths are not thinking men. There is a lot more danger in it than the risk of catching an STD.

When it comes to the risks of men performing oral sex on women, aside from contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs), there are a few potential health concerns, though they are generally less talked about. Here are some of the risks:

1. Oral Irritations or Infections

Thrush (Candidiasis): Fungal infections like oral thrush can occur, especially if there's an imbalance in the body's natural microbiota. If a woman has a yeast infection, the person giving oral sex could potentially get thrush in their mouth.

Sores and Gum Irritation: If there are existing sores, cuts, or gum issues in the mouth, these can become irritated or infected from exposure to vaginal fluids. This could also make it easier for any bacteria or viruses to enter the bloodstream.

2. Bacterial Infections

Bacterial Vaginosis (BV): This is a condition where the balance of bacteria in the vagina is disrupted. If someone is exposed to the bacteria from BV while giving oral sex, it could potentially lead to oral infections or an upset balance in the oral microbiome.

Urinary Tract Infections (UTIs): Though UTIs are more common for women, there is a potential risk for men if bacteria are introduced to the urethra through oral sex, though this is rare.

3. Allergic Reactions

Some people might have an allergic reaction to certain substances in vaginal fluids, like perfumes, spermicides, or even certain types of contraception. This could lead to irritation, itching, or swelling in the mouth or throat.

4. Hepatitis

While relatively rare, Hepatitis B and Hepatitis C can be transmitted through bodily fluids. If either partner has a viral infection and there's a cut, sore, or bleeding in the mouth, there’s a small risk of transmission.

5. Human Papillomavirus (HPV)

Oral sex can transmit HPV, which can lead to oral or throat cancer in men (or women, for that matter). HPV infection can cause oral warts and has been linked to oropharyngeal cancers.

6. Herpes Simplex Virus (HSV)

Herpes can be transmitted during oral sex. If a woman has genital herpes (HSV-2) or oral herpes (HSV-1), performing oral sex on her can lead to the transmission of the virus to the mouth or throat, potentially causing painful sores.

7. Transmission of Blood-Borne Pathogens

If there is any bleeding (such as from menstruation, a cut, or other minor injuries), there’s a very small chance of blood-borne diseases being transmitted. Though the risk is extremely low, it’s something to be aware of in rare cases.

8. Psychological Risks

Sometimes, the act of giving oral sex may be linked to feelings of discomfort or emotional stress, particularly if there are issues related to intimacy, consent, or body image. These psychological factors can affect a person’s health and well-being.

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Originally Posted by andrewv

This thread has become a bit worrying.

It has been said time and time again over many years that some punters seem to miss the point that going to massage shops and brothels is all about paying $$$$ to get our rocks off, and the girls do it ONLY to collect $$$$$..

If the punter is young or old, muscle builder or fat, handsome or ugly, the girl's mission is to do the least amount of work, as soon as possible, to get the man's rocks off, and see him leave before the time is up. They don't want to form rapport, emotional intimacy or any connection with punters.

Just think about it, to make maximum dollars she has to massage and/or fuck 10 to 15 men every day at work. Do you really think you are special compared to the 50 to 80 men she will service each and every week at work?? Seriously???

When the girls go home, they don't miss you. They don't look forward to you coming back to receive an amazing orgasm from you. Only the $$$$$$.

It is sad to see some punters wanting their ego strokes and to be validated by bragging about how they gave the girl an orgasm. No working girl goes to work in a shop hoping to fuck 10 to 25 men in the following 12 hours and to receive an orgasm from any of them.

Punters who love going down on a girl and getting her vagina's bacteria (and that of men who've been inside her too) into their mouths are not thinking men. There is a lot more danger in it than the risk of catching an STD.

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Well said. And you are spot on with your comment about the psychological impact of oral sex.

Man, this thread is a funny read.

The guys who think WL care about appearances only are hilarous.

Money is the WL's first priority, then getting through the day and not having it be shit. Anything else is a bonus. Like most people working a customer service job. Except their job is to fuck people whether they like it or not.

Of course appearances matter, but I'd argue that hygiene, attitude and personality are just as important.

Who would a WL prefer?
A. Young jacked stud, who has bad breath/odour, canes her pussy till it's raw, who rudely orders her around like a slave.

B. Middle aged/old balding fat dude, great hygiene, friendly and respectful, makes her laugh, checks on her to make sure she's comfortable with whatever they're doing.

I reckon the vast majority would choose B everytime.

I respectfully disagree with you @Laserdog when you say "Money is the WL's first priority", ... "Anything else is a bonus."

Money is the ONLY reason these girls do this job. There are no bonuses. When the girls laugh, or joke, or smile, or pretend to have an orgasm, it is part of the show which they know will make you feel good instead of feeling she is a cold fish.

If working girls could earn as much doing a different job, they would definitely do that other job. Every time. No girl will choose to make $4,000 a week (or any amount) providing sex services if there is another job that will pay her $4,000. Most, if not all girls, have deep resentment and/or shame that they have to fuck or masturbate men for an income.

Look up the psychological phenomenon called Habituation. It occurs when someone becomes less responsive to a stimulus after repeated exposure. Over time, the brain stops reacting to it as strongly, because it no longer feels novel or exciting. This is a natural, adaptive response—it's the brain's way of conserving energy and focusing on new or more important stimuli.

Girls who serve 50 to 80 men a week and see that many dicks and masturbate them or stick them in themselves will always (100% of the time) stop noticing. No interest. It becomes 100% mechanical.

Hey @andrewv, all good mate.

I realised that most of my experiences with J girls were with those that weren't working 12+ hours a day 7 days a week.

The ones doing those brutal hours will definitely be numb and desensitised after going through all those dudes.

I'm familiar with habituation among sex workers, someone once put it as 'when the act of fucking becomes like a handshake'.

And good WL are experts at stroking men's egos and manipulating emotions.

The point I was trying to make was like the one you made earlier. They are there to maximise their income while being able to get through the day with as much of their physical and mental wellbeing as intact as possible.

There are a few rare gems who are in it not just for the money, but to explore their own sexuality. I've been fortunate to come across some of those unicorns, however they don't tend to stay in the industry for long and they were definitely not FIFO J girls.

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Originally Posted by andrewv

Most Japanese are very racist. I've worked there. It is no surprise when the Japanese working girls say "No Indians"....

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Women are attracted to social status.
Indian men are bottom of the totem pole. It is the female natural reaction to be disgusted when having sex with a low quality man as getting pregnant would mean a waste of genes and time.

In the game of maximizing offspring, if society has deemed someone as low tier, than reproducing with that person means as a female you invest 9months++..

..To having a kid, that will be also undesirable and your genes will die out with that kid. This is genetic suicide.

The genes that were neutral to this died out. The genes that caused aversion and disgust to this allowed the women to avoid wasting time like this and thrived.

Thus most women experience actual disgust when having sex with a low-status man. Now in western culture we have a lot of equality of races etc. so most women don't perceive Indians as openly as low status.

Asians and Japanese though don't have these social limitations. They literally think dark skin = homeless, violent, poor, dumb. They think it quite openly. It is an ugly colour. Every single Asian girl you see walking around on a hot day with a sunhat and an umbrella... (Most of them) Also hides the idea: Dark Skin = socially low status, and socially low status = waste of genes = disgust.

Similar to experiencing disgust when smelling poo for instance, the humans that didn't, ended up with infections and died. The ones that did kept away and lived. Thus most humans normally experience an instinctive 'disgust' reaction to feces.