marrying a ML/WL

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Originally Posted by ML_Lover

Dated 5 MLs over the last 2 years, a little in love with 2 of them.

Been really lucky, no significant money involved, none asked for any significant gifts, just meals, wine, occasional bottle of perfume, etc. Lots of great sex and jealous looks, since I’m in my 50’s.

But definitely wouldn’t have married any of them.

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Seems like you had a great run, my "outside of shop" experiences have not been great so now I stay strictly within the sessions at a shop.

As to the original post, I don't think I would get into a serious relationship with an ML or WL.

This thread needed a bump. The question I want to ask to all is this. Why do you think a WL or ML would want to marry you🙄

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Originally Posted by trampslikeus55

This thread needed a bump. The question I want to ask to all is this. Why do you think a WL or ML would want to marry you🙄

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No obvious reasons especially when the ML met you in the shop as a punter !

For one and only reason really: a Visa for residency via marriage.

Sugar daddy could be the other one if you have the cash and offering ?

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

No obvious reasons especially when the ML met you in the shop as a punter !

For one and only reason really: a Visa for residency via marriage.

Sugar daddy could be the other one if you have the cash and offering ?

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Or, how's this for a weird concept... maybe they click so well together that they actually fall in love.. especially after seeing each other a few times....

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Originally Posted by Assandlegs

Or, how's this for a weird concept... maybe they click so well together that they actually fall in love.. especially after seeing each other a few times....

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Mmm! That can happen. Love is a strange thing. Good on them if it happen. I m not going to judged them.

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Originally Posted by trampslikeus55

This thread needed a bump. The question I want to ask to all is this. Why do you think a WL or ML would want to marry you🙄

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Did you mean ...you ,

Or

Someone like us.?

That meaning serial wank /Fs aficionados ?

A man, any woman (working or otherwise) shouldn’t sexually emotionally intimately trust ?

Or are you referring to crusty aged saggy assed rheum eyed older than 40 year old punters with poor dentistry and thickened gut ?

Junior, we all at any age can be starry eyed aspirational and happily delusional. For the most part and for me that stays mostly inside the bounds of the transactional space.

As for the question .. can any current WL/ML on forum who recently married and or divorced a punter wade In with an opinion. Experience

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Originally Posted by liminal

Did you mean ...you ,

Or

Someone like us.?

That meaning serial wank /Fs aficionados ?

A man, any woman (working or otherwise) shouldn’t sexually emotionally intimately trust ?

Or are you referring to crusty aged saggy assed rheum eyed older than 40 year old punters with poor dentistry and thickened gut ?

Junior, we all at any age can be starry eyed aspirational and happily delusional. For the most part and for me that stays mostly inside the bounds of the transactional space.

As for the question .. can any current WL/ML on forum who recently married and or divorced a punter wade In with an opinion. Experience

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Well, for what it's worth, I'm a divorced punter who did ask a long term WL / girlfriend to marry me, but was turned down. I should probably change my log in name from "looser" to "loser"

Unfortunately for women in our superficial society, they lose their value once they lose their looks
Young ML / WL can trade off their looks for a while, and generally have no problems finding 100s of interested men

You may get lucky with an older lady who wants stability, but I wouldnt risk wanting love from a good looking younger ML /WL. Shame inexperienced punters cant learn that lesson

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Originally Posted by looser

Well, for what it's worth, I'm a divorced punter who did ask a long term WL / girlfriend to marry me, but was turned down. I should probably change my log in name from "looser" to "loser"

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You're not the only one mate.

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Originally Posted by looser

Well, for what it's worth, I'm a divorced punter who did ask a long term WL / girlfriend to marry me, but was turned down. I should probably change my log in name from "looser" to "loser"

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If you want to try that caper you need to do the following:

Avoid lady < age 35
Have money to basically support her for the rest of her life (she wont have saved much and she will have to stop working in the industry)
Find out if she has children or parents to support
Actually having common interests apart from sex - Speak her native tongue and know her culture well gets points otherwise how can you really get to know her if her English is poor?
Owning your own home gets points
Not being a creepy or controlling or selfish guy gets points
Not expecting her to be your care slave or love slave gets points

Not being a punter gets points

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Originally Posted by moby

If you want to try that caper you need to do the following:

Avoid lady < age 35
Have money to basically support her for the rest of her life (she wont have saved much and she will have to stop working in the industry)
Find out if she has children or parents to support
Actually having common interests apart from sex - Speak her native tongue and know her culture well gets points otherwise how can you really get to know her if her English is poor?
Owning your own home gets points
Not being a creepy or controlling or selfish guy gets points
Not expecting her to be your care slave or love slave gets points

Not being a punter gets points

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Too complicated!

Plenty of Asian ML/WL would marry an Aussie guy at the drop of a hat for her visa !

Whether the couple will be happily ever after and together? That’s the 100 grand question !

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

Too complicated!

Plenty of Asian ML/WL would marry an Aussie guy at the drop of a hat for her visa !

Whether the couple will be happily ever after and together? That’s the 100 grand question !

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Ahlungor, any guy isnt going to do well if he just marries someone based on a visa. The big picture is important too

Marry in haste, repent at leisure

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
That is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
But don't worry, relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs.
Many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals etc; the wife gets security, status, children, property etc) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
And this is still what marriage is in many peasant, backwards goat-fucking cultures and countries even in the 21st Century.
Enjoy! Whatever you do. Always Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
That is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
But don't worry, relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs.
Many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals etc; the wife gets security, status, children, property etc) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
And this is still what marriage is in many peasant, backwards goat-fucking cultures and countries even in the 21st Century.
Enjoy! Whatever you do. Always Enjoy!

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In the 21st century with internet dating and much more women than men alive as we get older, have no idea why any man would want to get married after age 40, or need to marry a working lady

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
That is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
But don't worry, relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs.
Many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals etc; the wife gets security, status, children, property etc) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
And this is still what marriage is in many peasant, backwards goat-fucking cultures and countries even in the 21st Century.
Enjoy! Whatever you do. Always Enjoy!

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I don't actually agree with you here, bro rooter, but maybe I am just an odd one out.

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her

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You cant generalise about everyone but its certainly not the best foundation for a relationship

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Originally Posted by Assandlegs

I don't actually agree with you here, bro rooter, but maybe I am just an odd one out.

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A&L you are in love with your L. So your thinking is different from rooter he only see new girls only. To me he is a professional punter without any feeling and attachment. While some of us get attached with the girl and so do the girl. Everyone is different.

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Originally Posted by Climax598

While some of us get attached with the girl and so do the girl. Everyone is different.

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Theres a group of punters who need the attachment. Cant punt and leave it at the door. Why, we will never know

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Originally Posted by moby

Theres a group of punters who need the attachment. Cant punt and leave it at the door. Why, we will never know

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I used to be one of them(for maybe 4-5 months), but then realized how silly that was. Why? can't recall exactly why I wanted some sort of connection with the lady, guess it was probably her face that got me hooked.

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.

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Totally agree. For most girls, selling her body is probably a super shameful act that she wants to leave behind and forget. Marrying a punter will make her having to remember this shameful past for the rest of her life, and she'd also keep wondering if her husband is back into the game and fucking other girls at some shop.

I do have met a few MLs who appeared to make light of the erotic massage work, one even said that going for a punt at a massage parlor is just like going for a quick lunch, no fuss. But what struck me was that these ladies are also very negative about marriage: "it's just a piece of paper; if two people can't get along well, just get a divorce, simple as that".

The majority of girls, however, despite the kind of work they do, still dream of finding her prince and having a happy family; they still believe in love & their ability to meet an honest guy who never punt. To them, us punters are just dirty lustful men to stay as far away from as possible.

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Originally Posted by JetSetWilly

I strongly believe you are right, but how do you know this?

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I can assure you many women in the industry say this. Not a trade secret.

One woman I have been in a relationship , said as much to me and in a fit of cold anger , when something in her past came back to her , she looked st me and calmly said I should never have got involved with a customer.

Though at the same time , her work choices and lifestyle meant she was only
Meeting ‘Socialising ‘ with punters. ...

Despite held the dream/illusion and a very
Lopsided view of having a Happy ever after, and at the moment when I spoke with her yesterday , she still feels that is real and happening.

Most women in the industry I’ve met currently working or past and the few I will call friends, are very pragmatic realistic and goal oriented.