Market Research: is there a market for ladyboy in a RnT shop ??

I haven't read the this whole thread as I think it started going off track a bit, but in my opinion as a female (not she - male Hehe), and ex WL I most certainly think there is a market for lady boys in r&t AND f's shops. I also don't find it to be vulgar or disgusting etc, keeping an open mind that sexual gratification is NOT black and white..therefore different courses for different horses should be available. If it's not your cup of tea then lucky u don't have to drink it as there's 'choices' for heterosexuals, homosexuals, bi - curious and all in between :)))

Peace

Xx Isis xX

Oh... and I forgot to mention that in my experience having worked in both lower-end and higher-end establishments (fs not massage) i know of quite a number of discreet requests for escorts that r trans - gender. I suspect such 'discreet' requests would not exclude massage shops either...

Xxx love n light fellas!

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Originally Posted by Isis

I haven't read the this whole thread as I think it started going off track a bit, but in my opinion as a female (not she - male Hehe), and ex WL I most certainly think there is a market for lady boys in r&t AND f's shops. I also don't find it to be vulgar or disgusting etc, keeping an open mind that sexual gratification is NOT black and white..therefore different courses for different horses should be available. If it's not your cup of tea then lucky u don't have to drink it as there's 'choices' for heterosexuals, homosexuals, bi - curious and all in between :)))

Peace

Xx Isis xX

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Thanks for your comments sister Isis from someone with the inside informations.............haha

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Originally Posted by Isis

Oh... and I forgot to mention that in my experience having worked in both lower-end and higher-end establishments (fs not massage) i know of quite a number of discreet requests for escorts that r trans - gender. I suspect such 'discreet' requests would not exclude massage shops either...

Xxx love n light fellas!

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The latest poll results of this topic:


View Poll Results: Will you be interested in trying a ladyboy in a massage shop, based on RnT only !!

Voters 34. You have already voted on this poll

This poll will close on 28th July 2014 at 03:34 PM

Yes, I like to try if the person looks good and gives good massage and HE ! 12 votes = 35.29%

NO ! Not interested what so ever, only like real woman ! 14 votes = 41.18%

May be, like to meet the person first, but I must be informed of her status 8 votes = 23.53%


with a total of 20 votes on Yes and May be vs. 14 of no. I think this could work for my friend, just need to inform all the punters before hand I suppose !!

Cheers

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I think it could change the whole atmosphere of the shop, Instead of having relatively normal guys going there you could have all these old gay weirdo's hanging around.

Its bad enough bumping into another punter let alone someone who just got a hj of a lady boy

Sorry, just my opinion here Carmen f, but you'd actually be surprised how many suit-wearing/successful, respected business owners$ entrepreneurs who r needing/wanting this kind of service to be available (discteetly ). The stereotyped misconception u seem to have that ppl after a lady boy service seems very old school ie: old gay weirdos. From my experience some of the types of men who go to "straight" parlors are some of the lowest, inconsiderate, disrespectful 'weirdos' I've ever met. (No offense to those true gentlemen I have had the pleasure of spending time with...and there have been many). But your limited way of thinking makes me think of old fashioned judgment that ALL working girls are drug addicted, uneducated women.

Cheers

If you are gay then you are gay. But if you aren't gay I fail to see how there can be any appeal in sucking male dna down your throat.

Agreed sextus, my friend. If shops do employ both hetro & trans or l/boy services it should be clearly advertised so people r aware of what they r getting or wanting to recieve or NOT recieve. None the less, I do know there is a market for this...sought after by all types of all social economic classes etc...

Also though... There r those who may believe they r not gay... just needing/wanting to experiment. Or those from social conditioning or upbringing who may feel great shame in having such urges to try a r&t or fs by a ladyboy (to name a few). What ever the case, I feel for others to put such people in a stereotyped box of negativity simply due to their difference in sexual arousal/intimacy is just plain ignorance and narrow mindedness. Diversity approached with respect and acceptance or awareness that we r all different with different needs can't be a bad thing. We all don't have to like the same as our fellow brothers and sisters, but doesn't mean that the things we don't personally agree with shouldn't be accessible to those that don't fit into mainstream societal norms - whatever 'normal is'.

I was just calling a fact. I feel a visceral repulsion towards consuming male dna. It is not something I'm responsible for, just as those who like to consume it aren't responsible for that either. I wasn't criticising anyone.

Poets are renowned for their sexual prowess and, how shall I say this, "spirit of adventure."
Byron, Shelley, Coleridge, CrazyMonkey, SirLaughsAlot, all have a certain interest in such matters.

Yeah baby......

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Originally Posted by SirLaughsAlot

Poets are renowned for their sexual prowess and, how shall I say this, "spirit of adventure."
Byron, Shelley, Coleridge, CrazyMonkey, SirLaughsAlot, all have a certain interest in such matters.

Yeah baby......

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What a self-aggrandising twat you are. No wonder you have been banned 23 times ...

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Originally Posted by Sextus

I was just calling a fact. I feel a visceral repulsion towards consuming male dna. It is not something I'm responsible for, just as those who like to consume it aren't responsible for that either. I wasn't criticising anyone.

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I agree, if I even suspect a ladyboy works in a shop I won't be visiting.
The sex industry is not exactly known for it's high standards and the pressure to make profits sometimes at any "cost" is ever present, so if a ladyboy is free then it wouldn't suprise me if a greedy mamasan tries to trick an unsuspecting punter.

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

What a self-agrandising twat you are. No wonder you have been banned 23 times ...

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There are two "G" in aggrandising, and neither Proximo or DiamondEyes were my creations, so your numbers in the table are wrong, just like your spelling.
Your table actually says 24, but it should really say 22. I'm a stickler for accuracy CL, and I don't want anyone else getting credited with my moves.

I have some fairly reliable mail that some LBs are already working in legit Thai massage places all over Sydney at the moment !

And mainly due to the restrictions imposed by the shop that no part II is allowed so neither provided not received - and as a result, many unsuspecting punters may have already been served part I by LBs and not aware of !

Funny thing was, these LBs are always being pressured to provide extras like HJ or nude HJ and more - it makes me wonder if the punters actually become aware of the real status, will they be still trying to get past the second base !

As the survey is producing some initial results which is quite positive that there will be a market for it.

So this is how I envisage it will work:


1. Say shop A is the place where a LB will be employed , the owner will select the person carefully to ensure she is attractive and has a nice body, good massage skills etc , assuming part II is good.

2. The LB will be rostered on a set day, her name and work day will be advertised here in this and the other forum, so any interested party can plan and make advance booking .

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

4. Customers who make booking to see the LB of course will have full knowledge of the situation and no further advice by the shop is necessary !

What do you guys think, this can work ??

Please give your opinion ??

One more question , for all those ney sayers, do you have the same approach towards a LB who still has the dick vs a trans who already has the operation (post OP) and No more dick !!

You feel the same? or you are more acceptable to be touched and jerk off by someone who doesn't have a dick no more ??

Any different ?

Or in your own mind, will you consider a post OP person is already a woman ??

I noticed you're one of those guys that calls a tranvestite 'she'. I wonder, is this just a nod to political correctness or do really consider them as such?

Anyway, Australia as a society has become more tolerant of homosexuals. I understand that. There is this widespread view that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I agree with this.

But cross-dressing transvestites are a different story altogether. Bringing that fucked up shit into a hetero brothel, where punters have their cocks out and bodily fluids are being exchanged, is just wrong on so many levels!

Sure, theres a few old queers who will jump on the chance for a sneaky Hj from a young boy on the down low, but the response by 99% of customers will be negative.

Wait till words gets out that shop XYZ is provding gay sex services. Watch that shops reputation be tattered. Watch it get blacklisted. Watch the council close that shit hole down!!

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

I have some fairly reliable mail that some LBs are already working in legit Thai massage places all over Sydney at the moment !

And mainly due to the restrictions imposed by the shop that no part II is allowed so neither provided not received - and as a result, many unsuspecting punters may have already been served part I by LBs and not aware of !

Funny thing was, these LBs are always being pressured to provide extras like HJ or nude HJ and more - it makes me wonder if the punters actually become aware of the real status, will they be still trying to get past the second base !

As the survey is producing some initial results which is quite positive that there will be a market for it.

So this is how I envisage it will work:


1. Say shop A is the place where a LB will be employed , the owner will select the person carefully to ensure she is attractive and has a nice body, good massage skills etc , assuming part II is good.

2. The LB will be rostered on a set day, her name and work day will be advertised here in this and the other forum, so any interested party can plan and make advance booking .

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

4. Customers who make booking to see the LB of course will have full knowledge of the situation and no further advice by the shop is necessary !

What do you guys think, this can work ??

Please give your opinion ??

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Originally Posted by Cunt Destroyer

I noticed you're one of those guys that calls a tranvestite 'she'. I wonder, is this just a nod to political correctness or do really consider them as such?

Anyway, Australia as a society has become more tolerant of homosexuals. I understand that. There is this widespread view that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I agree with this.

But cross-dressing transvestites are a different story altogether. Bringing that fucked up shit into a hetero brothel, where punters have their cocks out and bodily fluids are being exchanged, is just wrong on so many levels!

Sure, theres a few old queers who will jump on the chance for a sneaky Hj from a young boy on the down low, but the response by 99% of customers will be negative.

Wait till words gets out that shop XYZ is provding gay sex services. Watch that shops reputation be tattered. Watch it get blacklisted. Watch the council close that shit hole down!!

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Another 8 inches again !!

Hi Isis,
It is so lovely to sit back and take in your words of wisdom.
You are always happy to share your insight from another perspective with us, and for that , I'm sure we are all grateful.
Glad to hear you are well. Keep Sharing .

P.S. I miss our quiet drinks, long chats and laughter !!!!
Drop me a PM sometime

This photo is dedicated to the lovely sister Isis !!


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All this talk about inadvertant sexual interaction with male dna in my final post for the night must have prompted my dream last night!

I was with Kylie Minogue, who is the very definition of the hottest of real femininity, and she had just flown me in her light plane from Miller's Point to the Balmain Peninsula. (Don't ask me how that was practical, it was just a friggin' dream!)

To edit out some of the subsequent detail (in which we visited the fish markets) we ended up at a hotel for the night with an anonymous male acquaintance of mine.

Kylie slept between us.

The night must have passed, my dream edited that part out, but next it was first thing in the morning and my acquaintance had got up to go to the bathroom, which woke me up. (Ha! asleep, I had been dreaming I was asleep.)

A nude Kylie, next to me, woke up too.

I pulled down the sheet to look at her, and her bare pussy was completely splashed and dripping with come!

That was my dream filling in the action of the previous night - ha ha! Very considerate!

"You've still got the come all over you Kylie" I commented.

She giggled and said "Mmm...yes."

The sight of her cum dripping bare pussy and her sleepy, kittenish reaction to it suddenly made me feel really hot.

I launched myself at her mouth and began devouring it. The same things must have made her feel hot too because I felt her very fullish and perky tits (for her petite size) swell with her passion against my chest and her nipples jabbed at me with a new pointiness.

Man, I was super aroused, and got between her legs, which she spread in completely welcoming compliance, and I slid it in to her bareback right to the hilt.

Ha ha! The very presence and sight of the come on Kylie's come splashed bare pussy - not all of which was mine - was a big part of the heat of it all.

Now that was my dream, and it worked in that, big time, but in real life I feel I still may harbour some reservations. Or maybe it just needed the heat of the uber-feminine Kylie Minogue to completely feminise the come.

Probably it was that. There is something to that, as I have snowballed in the past.

Anyway, make of it what you will. At least it feels like I've f**ked Kylie :slobber: - and you haven't! :miao:

Thanks my dear friends massageguy and Ahlungor. Yes, I'm sure my views don't sit well with everybody and that's okay..it's just such an interesting topic of discussion. Maybe someone should start a thread along the lines of "when 'straight' guys come into a massage or full service shop asking the WL if she could slip a couple of fingers in their a** or even penetration with other objects for sexual gratification does that make them gay????"(apologies as now I'm getting off the beaten track). Anyhoooo I like reading the differing opinions as it certainly says a lot about someone. As does the forum name "cunt destroyer". I mean really..... that's class!! - NOT!

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Anyway, make of it what you will. At least it feels like I've f**ked Kylie :slobber: - and you haven't! :miao:

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Haha, Kylie, I do like her music and her dance move, but when it cums to sexual gratifications, give me the younger sister with the bigger enhanced tits - Danni anytime !!

Oh, how about Danni's fellow judges: the ex Spice girl with the perfect sun tan, another MILF, or is it Mel !! gee, love to fuck those big brown tits !! :cool2:

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Originally Posted by Isis

asking the WL if she could slip a couple of fingers in their a** or even penetration with other objects for sexual gratification does that make them gay????

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Aah no dear Isis, that is mere physiology. The presence of bundles of sexually sensitive nerves in that area, whether you are male or female.

True, some guys prefer to deny themselves this, but that is a matter of their headspace illogically denying their physiology. That is a Darwinian fact completely indifferent to their headspace.

Fair point my friend. I guess it confirms I did go off the beaten track, and didn't think my statement through in regards to the context but I guess on the whole subject I was thinking there's such a variety of differing sexual needs for a person, and what some people think is 'ok' and a turn on may be completely vulgar, 'gay' etc etc to another. That doesn't mean those services shouldn't be made available in an establishment. If i had a shop I certainly wouldn't rule out the fact it cld be beneficial to cater for a variety of needs to that individual, discreetly and respectfully.

I wonder what will you do when you walk into a Thai massage shop and was shown this line up ??


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