marrying a ML/WL

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Originally Posted by moby

If you want to try that caper you need to do the following:

Avoid lady < age 35
Have money to basically support her for the rest of her life (she wont have saved much and she will have to stop working in the industry)
Find out if she has children or parents to support
Actually having common interests apart from sex - Speak her native tongue and know her culture well gets points otherwise how can you really get to know her if her English is poor?
Owning your own home gets points
Not being a creepy or controlling or selfish guy gets points
Not expecting her to be your care slave or love slave gets points

Not being a punter gets points

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Too complicated!

Plenty of Asian ML/WL would marry an Aussie guy at the drop of a hat for her visa !

Whether the couple will be happily ever after and together? That’s the 100 grand question !

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

Too complicated!

Plenty of Asian ML/WL would marry an Aussie guy at the drop of a hat for her visa !

Whether the couple will be happily ever after and together? That’s the 100 grand question !

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Ahlungor, any guy isnt going to do well if he just marries someone based on a visa. The big picture is important too

Marry in haste, repent at leisure

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
That is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
But don't worry, relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs.
Many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals etc; the wife gets security, status, children, property etc) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
And this is still what marriage is in many peasant, backwards goat-fucking cultures and countries even in the 21st Century.
Enjoy! Whatever you do. Always Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
That is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
But don't worry, relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs.
Many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals etc; the wife gets security, status, children, property etc) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
And this is still what marriage is in many peasant, backwards goat-fucking cultures and countries even in the 21st Century.
Enjoy! Whatever you do. Always Enjoy!

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In the 21st century with internet dating and much more women than men alive as we get older, have no idea why any man would want to get married after age 40, or need to marry a working lady

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
That is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
But don't worry, relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs.
Many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals etc; the wife gets security, status, children, property etc) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
And this is still what marriage is in many peasant, backwards goat-fucking cultures and countries even in the 21st Century.
Enjoy! Whatever you do. Always Enjoy!

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I don't actually agree with you here, bro rooter, but maybe I am just an odd one out.

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her

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You cant generalise about everyone but its certainly not the best foundation for a relationship

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Originally Posted by Assandlegs

I don't actually agree with you here, bro rooter, but maybe I am just an odd one out.

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A&L you are in love with your L. So your thinking is different from rooter he only see new girls only. To me he is a professional punter without any feeling and attachment. While some of us get attached with the girl and so do the girl. Everyone is different.

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Originally Posted by Climax598

While some of us get attached with the girl and so do the girl. Everyone is different.

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Theres a group of punters who need the attachment. Cant punt and leave it at the door. Why, we will never know

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Originally Posted by moby

Theres a group of punters who need the attachment. Cant punt and leave it at the door. Why, we will never know

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I used to be one of them(for maybe 4-5 months), but then realized how silly that was. Why? can't recall exactly why I wanted some sort of connection with the lady, guess it was probably her face that got me hooked.

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Originally Posted by rooter

Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.

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Totally agree. For most girls, selling her body is probably a super shameful act that she wants to leave behind and forget. Marrying a punter will make her having to remember this shameful past for the rest of her life, and she'd also keep wondering if her husband is back into the game and fucking other girls at some shop.

I do have met a few MLs who appeared to make light of the erotic massage work, one even said that going for a punt at a massage parlor is just like going for a quick lunch, no fuss. But what struck me was that these ladies are also very negative about marriage: "it's just a piece of paper; if two people can't get along well, just get a divorce, simple as that".

The majority of girls, however, despite the kind of work they do, still dream of finding her prince and having a happy family; they still believe in love & their ability to meet an honest guy who never punt. To them, us punters are just dirty lustful men to stay as far away from as possible.

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Originally Posted by JetSetWilly

I strongly believe you are right, but how do you know this?

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I can assure you many women in the industry say this. Not a trade secret.

One woman I have been in a relationship , said as much to me and in a fit of cold anger , when something in her past came back to her , she looked st me and calmly said I should never have got involved with a customer.

Though at the same time , her work choices and lifestyle meant she was only
Meeting ‘Socialising ‘ with punters. ...

Despite held the dream/illusion and a very
Lopsided view of having a Happy ever after, and at the moment when I spoke with her yesterday , she still feels that is real and happening.

Most women in the industry I’ve met currently working or past and the few I will call friends, are very pragmatic realistic and goal oriented.

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Originally Posted by annintofu

For most girls, selling her body is probably a super shameful act that she wants to leave behind and forget. Marrying a punter will make her having to remember this shameful past for the rest of her life, and she'd also keep wondering if her husband is back into the game and fucking other girls at some shop.

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A WL in a moment of weakness and depression started crying and crying.

She said she gets depressed and feels sick when she thinks about the fact she's been with over two thousand men and counting.

Once she gets enough money to complete her house overseas, she will bury her past.

She cried as she said, how can I have a normal relationship now after thousands of dicks have been inside all holes, after abuse, force gagged, bitten all over, swollen pussy, countless infections and even hospitalisation. I was speechless.

She concluded by saying she just wants to run own cafe and live single for the rest her life with only her dogs. If she wanted someone in her life, she will go back to having a tomboy partner.

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Originally Posted by Riff888

A WL in a moment of weakness and depression started crying and crying.

She said she gets depressed and feels sick when she thinks about the fact she's been with over two thousand men and counting.

Once she gets enough money to complete her house overseas, she will bury her past.

lk

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This is why regardless of what we think about the background of a WL / ML we should always treat the girls with some humanity.

Yeh they might be in it for the money or the visa or what ever, but reality is they have limited options if they want a decent life and for many there are other things that drove them into this industry...

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Originally Posted by PervySage

This is why regardless of what we think about the background of a WL / ML we should always treat the girls with some humanity.

Yeh they might be in it for the money or the visa or what ever, but reality is they have limited options if they want a decent life and for many there are other things that drove them into this industry...

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Thankyou for the reminder ...

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Originally Posted by moby

Unfortunately for women in our superficial society, they lose their value once they lose their looks
Young ML / WL can trade off their looks for a while, and generally have no problems finding 100s of interested men

You may get lucky with an older lady who wants stability, but I wouldnt risk wanting love from a good looking younger ML /WL. Shame inexperienced punters cant learn that lesson

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the thing is men's brain is wired to be attracted to young good looking girls so we are always tempted

we punters need to master this skills: "go punting, have awesome session with the girls, get great connection and closer to her emotionally, enjoy that great moment and walk out having no emotional attached", that'd be best outcome for the girl, you and the shop.

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Originally Posted by xboyx

we punters need to master this skills: "go punting, have awesome session with the girls, get great connection and closer to her emotionally, enjoy that great moment and walk out having no emotional attached", that'd be best outcome for the girl, you and the shop.

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The guys that can do this well are probably slight Asperger's, autistic or sociopaths.

You know, the CEO types that can cheat on their wife endlessly without remorse.

This is a mental condition where one has so empathy.

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Originally Posted by Riff888

The guys that can do this well are probably slight Asperger's, autistic or sociopaths.

You know, the CEO types that can cheat on their wife endlessly without remorse.

This is a mental condition where one has so empathy.

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this isn't cheating though, punting without string attached, staying out of others' business, may have empathy but knowing you can't help and stay out of it.

No thanks. A regular wife is complicated enough

A woman who sells her body to random strangers for money will never be the same person again, especially if she does it for a long time.
The emotional and psychological damage will stay with her for the rest of her life.
This is the reality of punting.
Accept it.
This doesn't mean that she will have a miserable life forever.
Humans are a resilient species. Not as resilient as cockroaches or beetles, but still pretty resilient.
Many people survive violence, rape, torture, Nescafe Blend 43 instant coffee, refugee camps, Catholicism, PTSD, prison, abuse, Birds Eye Fish Fingers, cancer, Liberal Governments, Richard Di Natale's pontificating, Play School, McDonald's, Hillsong, etc.
And if they have been smart and not wasted their earnings on gambling and drugs and have gained some sort of financial security and some nice clothes, furnishings, accessories, and gadgets this can be a source of comfort.
But the damage is there.
It is done, and it will never go away.

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Originally Posted by xboyx

this isn't cheating though, punting without string attached, staying out of others' business, may have empathy but knowing you can't help and stay out of it.

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This is not cheating, then what is?

I know two guys who got divorced because they got caught punting.

You might not think it's cheating but just like any form of abuse, the definition sits with your partner.

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Originally Posted by rooter

A woman who sells her body to random strangers for money will never be the same person again, especially if she does it for a long time.
The emotional and psychological damage will stay with her for the rest of her life.
This is the reality of punting.
Accept it.

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Agreed

In this industry for 10+ years maybe and they either end up being career WLs until their looks fade, become crazy lonely cat/dog ladies or lesbian.

There's always exceptions to this though, just like everything else in life.

It's great if they can make their money, invest wisely and get out of the industry on top of life.

Yes luxury items and the appearance of a glamorous lifestyle is a coping strategy.


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Some WLs end up in relationships with punters.
This is not because they love or respect punters.
No. They generally despise punters, or just feel contempt or pity for punters.
But they still end up with punters because they are the only men they interact with.
It's similar to women who are victims of domestic violence and abuse but still "stand by their man"
Its the only thing they know.
It's the only physical interaction and connection they know.
Sad but true.

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Originally Posted by rooter

Some WLs end up in relationships with punters.
This is not because they love or respect punters.
No. They generally despise punters, or just feel contempt or pity for punters.
But they still end up with punters because they are the only men they interact with.
It's similar to women who are victims of domestic violence and abuse but still "stand by their man"
Its the only thing they know.
It's the only physical interaction and connection they know.
Sad but true.

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Wow.... you just took the wind out of my sail bro rooter.... lol

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Originally Posted by Assandlegs

Wow.... you just took the wind out of my sail bro rooter.... lol

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All good bro.
I am 100% certain L is not with you right now, or if she is she is just with you because of money, logistics, or convenience.
All the best bro!
In the 2 billion years of life in this remote planet in a remote galaxy in a remote universe there have been many lifeforms who have experienced exactly what you have.
There have been many a love struck creature.
All the best bro!
Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by rooter

Some WLs end up in relationships with punters.
This is not because they love or respect punters.
No. They generally despise punters, or just feel contempt or pity for punters.
But they still end up with punters because they are the only men they interact with.
It's similar to women who are victims of domestic violence and abuse but still "stand by their man"
Its the only thing they know.
It's the only physical interaction and connection they know.
Sad but true.

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So much truth in this.

How many times have I heard girls say I hate this business, I'm studying to get out of it or I'm in training to be a barista of cook. When I see them again after ages. It's like, oh you are still doing this job, still with the abusive pimp/papasan/mamasan.

There's also a few married WLs in the industry where their husbands don't have a clue they are still working.

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