NO INDIAN MEN!

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Originally Posted by Abs90

Yes it is a size issue also with a small number of girls but when these girls say rough they mean in a hands way. Squeezing, grabbing, pushing and pulling. A jap girl just complained the other day of a leb guy pushing her around the room, pulling her hair and squeezing her boobs way too hard. She spent 10k on her boobs the last thing she wants is for them to be squeezed. Some of these guys watch way too much porn and think that's how most girls want it. A lot of asian girls say asian only and it's mostly to do with white guys are creeps.

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Oh yeah that example right there is from their brain infected with porn. They think that is what real life sex is. That is a shit go if the WLs have to go through that multiple times a day. Not good.

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Originally Posted by Punt2Win

Oh yeah that example right there is from their brain infected with porn. They think that is what real life sex is. That is a shit go if the WLs have to go through that multiple times a day. Not good.

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Yep. Myself and the other seasoned brothers have heard or witnessed horror stories from bad punters. I have heard and seen everything.

The worst was when I was with a WL and heard screaming and arguments outside her room. I had to stop and listen and all I could hear was yelling and someone saying "get out". No idea what was going because I was only 15 mins into my booking but once I left, it was quiet.

It's sad but the reality is that 99.9% of WL's have had bad customers overtime. Its just a matter of time before some shit punter treats a WL like crap and then becomes "asian only or no indian". The girls have made a choice to do this job but at the same time, there is no excuse for abuse.

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Originally Posted by Punt2Win

The rough thing may be a size issue. I haven't done much punting compared to others here but the last 2 WLs I saw were Malay and Chinese (petite) and both told me quite bluntly my cock was too big for them. The Malay one did a whole psych herself up thing just on the insertion to get it in which took like more than 30 seconds.

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Abs90 is correct, rough equates to too handsy.

Too big..., most likely, polite way of saying she's just not that into it with you. As Sporadic once commented, if your's is not bigger than a baby's head, it'll fit. They do teach sex education in school, right?

Fits, obviously, with the proper inspiration. Hint - your wallet ain't it. Foreplay (and while "Bend over and brace" might be seen as foreplay by males), can take a bit more. Just like you need some stimulation to increase blood pressure, so does she, to naturally lubricate the chute (you are using the correct chute, right?). In lieu of (or in addition to), lube in a tube (and it's not YOUR tube) is an aid. But if she's small, and perhaps not exactly thrilled to see you (she is an actress, reciting lines, right?), then the door just might not be opened as wide. And with the methodology here, the assembly lines, the minutes pacing... It's NOT YOU, it's the system working against you...

Are her words true sometimes? Sure, just like politicians. Those potholes will be fixed (somewhere, sometime). But more often than not, it's because they want to be re-elected.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

The girls have made a choice to do this job but at the same time, there is no excuse for abuse.

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Well said.

Many variables for them each time a punter steps through the door. Treat them like you'd want to be treated; first impressions will remind them of their good or bad experiences and sessions may go accordingly. I can't fuckin imagine how they cope mentally, apart from totting up the $$$.

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Originally Posted by Pattyherb

What would happen if a girl said "no lebo"

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I've definitely known women who don't service arabs.

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Originally Posted by rubit moore

Well said.

Many variables for them each time a punter steps through the door. Treat them like you'd want to be treated; first impressions will remind them of their good or bad experiences and sessions may go accordingly. I can't fuckin imagine how they cope mentally, apart from totting up the $$$.

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It has to be hard on the WL's especially the ones working 7 - 14 days straight.

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Originally Posted by rubit moore

Well said.

Many variables for them each time a punter steps through the door. Treat them like you'd want to be treated; first impressions will remind them of their good or bad experiences and sessions may go accordingly. I can't fuckin imagine how they cope mentally, apart from totting up the $$$.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

It has to be hard on the WL's especially the ones working 7 - 14 days straight.

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All of these ML's/WL's are mentally damaged already. Either from trauma, sleeping with many different men, abuse from customers and so on.

Don't be that guy who tries to "save" them. Let alone, get into a relationship with one...

So punters, in the situation that you already pay the lady for fs and 30 seconds into it she says that she cant do it anymore, you're too big... what do you do? Obviously, ask for your money back.

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Originally Posted by 2000BahtLongTime

All of these ML's/WL's are mentally damaged already. Either from trauma, sleeping with many different men, abuse from customers and so on.

Don't be that guy who tries to "save" them. Let alone, get into a relationship with one...

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You would be surprised how many of them have boyfriends especially the J girls. I asked one out of curiosity and she said all the J girls in the shop except her had boyfriends.

A couple of months ago, I was at Starbucks near Hyde Park getting a late arvo coffee. This couple walk in and straight away, I knew she was a WL either Chinese or Japanese. This dude looked rich as fuck. Had the LV wallet, LV shoes, rolex and those fancy sunglasses (forget the brand).

In that small second or two, I was checking out the girl and she looked back. In all honesty, I think she knew without a doubt that I knew she was a WL and that I (me) was most likely a punter. They can just tell which is fine by me lol. The dude was 100% a customer.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

You would be surprised how many of them have boyfriends especially the J girls. I asked one out of curiosity and she said all the J girls in the shop except her had boyfriends.

A couple of months ago, I was at Starbucks near Hyde Park getting a late arvo coffee. This couple walk in and straight away, I knew she was a WL either Chinese or Japanese. This dude looked rich as fuck. Had the LV wallet, LV shoes, rolex and those fancy sunglasses (forget the brand).

In that small second or two, I was checking out the girl and she looked back. In all honesty, I think she knew without a doubt that I knew she was a WL and that I (me) was most likely a punter. They can just tell which is fine by me lol. The dude was 100% a customer.

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She is either a sugarbabe or officially dating him now so she does not have to polish knobs anymore. If I was dating someone, I certainly wouldn't want her being gropped and pleasuring other men, or maybe she didn't tell him about her past

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

You would be surprised how many of them have boyfriends especially the J girls. I asked one out of curiosity and she said all the J girls in the shop except her had boyfriends.

A couple of months ago, I was at Starbucks near Hyde Park getting a late arvo coffee. This couple walk in and straight away, I knew she was a WL either Chinese or Japanese. This dude looked rich as fuck. Had the LV wallet, LV shoes, rolex and those fancy sunglasses (forget the brand).

In that small second or two, I was checking out the girl and she looked back. In all honesty, I think she knew without a doubt that I knew she was a WL and that I (me) was most likely a punter. They can just tell which is fine by me lol. The dude was 100% a customer.

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Originally Posted by Pattyherb

She is either a sugarbabe or officially dating him now so she does not have to polish knobs anymore. If I was dating someone, I certainly wouldn't want her being gropped and pleasuring other men, or maybe she didn't tell him about her past

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You would have to be a very low value man to have to resort to dating a prostitute/hooker. Like there's no better option for a life partner for ya?

I would rather be a customer than her BF. At least I just pay the $300 whenever I want to f*k then get out of there afterwards

I would believe that. Some of these Japanese WL's are even married. In Japan, married women with kids & a husband are doing JAV vids & working in Deli Heru/Soaplands

In Thailand, you will see the Thai guys dropping off their Thai GF's to work in the bar and even to customers hotel's for a short/long time session.

It doesn't make sense in my Western brain

But these girl's love of money knows no boundaries.....

555

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Originally Posted by 2000BahtLongTime

You would have to be a very low value man to have to resort to dating a prostitute/hooker. Like there's no better option for a life partner for ya?

I would rather be a customer than her BF. At least I just pay the $300 whenever I want to f*k then get out of there afterwards

I would believe that. Some of these Japanese WL's are even married. In Japan, married women with kids & a husband are doing JAV vids & working in Deli Heru/Soaplands

In Thailand, you will see the Thai guys dropping off their Thai GF's to work in the bar and even to customers hotel's for a short/long time session.

It doesn't make sense in my Western brain

But these girl's love of money knows no boundaries.....

555

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I agree. I made that mistake of dating one back about 5 years ago. Made me realise a lot of things and by all means would not do it again. The one thing I will and continue to do is show them respect and courtesy but the whole dating thing, no thanks.

In saying that, if I was to meet a ex WL who is no longer working, I'd be fine with dating her. Yes, sometimes they do resort to their former lives but the few I know that have left the WL life have not returned. Most of them are in proper relationships and have normal jobs.

How different are us punters when we retire and start dating ? In all honesty, we are no different. That's why when I say dating a ex WL is not a problem for me because yes we could question "she a ex WL and think about all the cocks she has sucked" but flip the coin and look at a punter "how many WL's have you fucked".

But yeah, the whole dating a WL thing is world full of contradictions. See the girls, show respect and leave. If a WL is having a shit day, sure I'll be compassionate, listen and show some decency but after leaving that room, that's it.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

In saying that, if I was to meet a ex WL who is no longer working, I'd be fine with dating her. Yes, sometimes they do resort to their former lives but the few I know that have left the WL life have not returned. Most of them are in proper relationships and have normal jobs.

How different are us punters when we retire and start dating ? In all honesty, we are no different. That's why when I say dating a ex WL is not a problem for me because yes we could question "she a ex WL and think about all the cocks she has sucked" but flip the coin and look at a punter "how many WL's have you fucked".

But yeah, the whole dating a WL thing is world full of contradictions. See the girls, show respect and leave. If a WL is having a shit day, sure I'll be compassionate, listen and show some decency but after leaving that room, that's it.

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Got to agree with you here. I've known a number of providers that would make excellent partners, but maybe I have a different punting demographic. The ones I know are here to support family, not to buy Gucci bags (well, OK, some buy Gucci bags, take them back on a home visit for a bit of flash, then sell them at a great profit. One, I thought she was going in for some DFK, but as she got closer, she changed focus and said, "Are those GOLD...?" Obviously a dental student making tuition... to support her family as a dentist.)

They've taken the hand they've been dealt, and played it as best they could to achieve their goals. Add in those who've done it as an expat... (BTW: horror stories? Here, sure, but true horror... expats know...)

As I've said before, if she sees you as an ATM, you're SOL. But IF she sees you as family... family is everything.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

In that small second or two, I was checking out the girl and she looked back. In all honesty, I think she knew without a doubt that I knew she was a WL and that I (me) was most likely a punter. They can just tell which is fine by me lol. The dude was 100% a customer.

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"you knew that she knew that you knew that she..." Sorry, I kind of got lost there. Danger of punting too much when everyone starts looking like a WG... Even that young Mac's fry girl, she asks "Do you want extra...?" and your mind immediately goes elsewhere before she can finish.

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Originally Posted by 2000BahtLongTime

You would have to be a very low value man to have to resort to dating a prostitute/hooker. Like there's no better option for a life partner for ya?

555

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I don't know, no mention of OBFF's... still mn69?

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Originally Posted by Abs90

So this is the opinions of working girls and myself that I have worked in the industry with. From most hated to most liked.
Number one for most hated is Indian. Dealing with these guys at reception is a headache, they all just want to see the girls for hellos then leave, if they do decide to pick one they want to haggle the price down, they also stink up the waiting room. The girls don't like them because they are rough, smell and are just gross in general. Don't respect boundries.

Number two most hated is Lebs, I can't really complain about them at front of house but inside the room the girls complain about them either trying to force them to take drugs or are just very aggressive and rough.

Number three most hated is spanish/french/eastern europe, very rough people that dont listen to boundries, mainly towards girls that don't speak english.

Number four is Australian, 50% liked 50% hated. Majority are good but the other half treat the small Japanese girls that don't speak english, very badly. They also have some weird pedo vibes. The old fat ones think they are gods gift to WLs and fall heavily in lust with these girls. If they liked you so much why havent they asked to see you outside work. All these girls use the same line to these old guys " I don't cum" then pretend to cum for them. Brings these guys back weekly. I know a few girls that put numbing cream on their pussys and nipples before these guys come in for a booking the next day because they go over board on the daty and nipple sucking. The girls don't want to feel your saliva over their body

Number five is Chinese. These guys are my favourite and I'm not Chinese by the way. They are drama free, they dont haggle are cashed up. Pick a girl, pay and never complain. The girls also like them the most as most of them don't do DATY, don't do DFK, they just want bbbj and sex. They book a hour and leave within 40 mins and always tip 50 to 100 dollars

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You forgot to mention that 99% of Chinese are the ones that push for BBFS. Numerous wl’s have told me Chinese always want bareback especially in Ginza. So there’s faults in every race

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Originally Posted by Umitabi

You forgot to mention that 99% of Chinese are the ones that push for BBFS. Numerous wl’s have told me Chinese always want bareback especially in Ginza. So there’s faults in every race

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Yeah that is true, the work phone gets about three messages a week asking if any girls provide it and it is usually chinese guys asking for it.

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Originally Posted by Abs90

Yeah that is true, the work phone gets about three messages a week asking if any girls provide it and it is usually chinese guys asking for it.

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Are you the manager? How do you know this?

Any mates rates?

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Originally Posted by Umitabi

You forgot to mention that 99% of Chinese are the ones that push for BBFS. Numerous wl’s have told me Chinese always want bareback especially in Ginza. So there’s faults in every race

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Are there actually any? And if there are, I thought management weren't allowed to disclose it, seeing how all the official signage on premise says protected sex only.

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Originally Posted by Endo123

Are there actually any? And if there are, I thought management weren't allowed to disclose it, seeing how all the official signage on premise says protected sex only.

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I'd say it just falls into the category of "it never hurts to ask". Not a problem as long as the questioner understands he might not like the answer. Just like when the ML asks me for $200 FS...

ABS90: You should post "Yes, but I can't say on a public forum", then watch your mailbox blow up... :secret_smile:

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Originally Posted by Pattyherb

Are you the manager? How do you know this?

Any mates rates?

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I am part owner of one shop and manager of another shop

Bbfs is literally not hard to find. Literally a lot of the new Japanese girls offer it, always with a price tag associated though. I've been offered it several times but turned it down.

Be safe out there bros.