Female Punter!

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Originally Posted by lilac

you know, I understand the suspicion (except for the asian part lol). yk, female nature is a little more emotionally driven, it’s not really likely that a girl would come on here simply for horny reasons. i guess i owe the forum a little bit more context.

so yes, when i first made this thread, i wanted to share my experience and see if there were any girls out there doing the same thing as me. plus see if i could get any more “insider” information on the shops.

but i did also mention that I have also been reading the forum for some time. apart from the above, i’ve always been curious:

like, what kind of men pay so much money to have sex? why is it more appealing than picking up a girl at a club/bar etc? is it because they can’t? broke, unattractive, awkward? why do married or taken men do this, are their relationships unfulfilling? do they feel guilty? is the desire for variety just something men are naturally cursed with? do men actually respect or care about these MLs or WLs? are they happy with their lives? do the women feel regret or shame? what happens to them when they get older? what do men really think of female nature? do they all think we’re evil and bitchy and only care about the benefits/value rather than them as people? or is it just the type of girls they’ve met? or perhaps the way they treat women? would they be happier in a LTR with the right girl rather than meaningless, casual sex? maybe that’s why so many guys start catching feelings for the girls they pay? why do so many girls chose to do this type of work? would i be happier doing that too or is slutty = empowering just an idea the media generates? is it more fulfilling to be slutty or to be a good wife? do these men really value a girl’s purity still, even if they’ve paid for sex with different girls over 100 times?

reading directly from the target demographic on this forum is a pretty good resource.

i guess the men ive had relationships with ‘red pilled’ me a little too hard lol.

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There are a lot of questions here and not gunna lie, would have been ideal if bullet pointed.

I am of course generalising when I say the following but it should hold true for most.

NOTE: WALL OF TEXT. No tldr because I'm answering stuff.

Why do single men punt?
- because they've probably realised, no matter what happens you 'pay' for sex with a woman anyway. There is absolutely an element of the socially awkward there's no doubt about that. However, if all you are after is to get your end wet, at least you are guaranteed it at a brothel rather than having spent for a lavish night out only to get a brief hug and peck on the cheek for your efforts and money.

Why do taken men punt?
- there are no doubt a number of men who are just of the promiscuous type. They couldn't be tied to a woman if you had a pair of titanium handcuffs.
However, MOST men, are 'good'. They enter and exit LTRs. Now as a GF/BF scenario with no real 'ties', as a good guy, you will probably end up getting terribly hurt by a woman (more on women's nature further down) and maybe punting is a path you'll walk. Should you survive that and end up getting married, here's where things get interesting. I'll answer this more specifically on women's nature, but the short version is, if the guy ISNT of the promiscuous type and is a good bloke, the woman is creating an environment which almost FORCES the man to find some other avenue or some other female to feel 'safe' with. Whether that's through punting or an affair, same same but diff.

Do we respect or care about WL or ML?
- again generalising, we dead set do. The default stance for a normal healthy male is to be protective and caring of females in our lives. Despite the job these women are no different. There are no shortage of posts here where the community had absolutely thrashed a bloke who has bragged about practically raping a WL or ML. No normal man has any desire to force women into anything sexual in fact it's often so much the opposite that it frustrates and bores the Fuck out of normal women!

Blah blah about women's thoughts on the job
- no idea sorry ask them

What do we think of female nature?
- can of worms opening. *Craaaaank*
Female nature is hideously erratic to the average man. Women are born of intense emotion. Everything is 'feel'. I 'feeeeel' like there was nothing in our relationship (meanwhile living in the absolute lap of luxury) I 'feeeeel' like the relationship wasn't working (married to a man worth X amount of billions of dollars whos attractive, hung, and does everything for her). You know what I mean.
Women always date up. Men always date down.
We marry you shits hoping to god you will never change. We loved you how you were when we first met you. You marry us liking what we were, but wanting us to change into what you think is better. Only to find that when that happens that's absolutely not what you wanted anyway, and then manifesting that into a divorce (I 'feeeel' like it wasnt working!!!) you are the 'best' communicators (because talking 10x more about things which have no relation to the point at hand is absolutely better communication) but the silent treatment is somehow what you think is the best way to communicate problems to us.
So when you as a female create this toxic space of dissatisfaction and silence with everything we (usually) try to do for you to make you happy, we go seek that peace elsewhere. In someone else's arms (or other orifices as it were). Am I saying it's always the woman's fault and men are never to blame? Of course not! But your AVERAGE dude walking around on the street who gets about as much sexual attention per year as you would give to a spider on the wall, are usually really good guys. 'where are all the GOOD men!!??'

Uh, they are the ones you rejected, the ones in your friend zone. Those are the 'good' guys who would be with you through thick n thin. But of course, women would prefer to share and get pounded and dumped by a 'better' bloke, than stay with a good one.

Before you say it, this isn't bitterness talking, it's experience.

Do you want slutty or nice?
- as per Ushers song 'Yeah!'
"We want a lady on the streets but a freak in the bed". End of story.

Do you still like purity even if you've banged 100s of girls?
- yeah of course. That's a no brainer. The reverse question for a girl would be : do you want a guy who's got no idea what he doing in bed or a guy who has banged 100 women and knows the female body inside out? For us we love the idea of being your first, because virginity means that your reactions and emotions are also pure. Once you've banged 100 blokes you know how to act like you love it etc when you don't. Conversely a guy who has no idea what he is doing is a turn off for girls. But a bloke who knows how to dominate you and take you to an O, is sought after.

That's all I'll answer. Enjoy Lac'ster.

- F0x

Lilac, violet, mauve, lavender, salmon ... so many beautiful shades of pink and purple ... life is a rich tapestry of colour light sound and movement ... Enjoy!

I too would like to know if it's forthcoming !!!!!!!

We are now on Thread #131. The Op was supposed to fill us in . No AR or even the mention of the ML shops she researched ????

When asked (by ryanpumper) about the AR she wants to be asked politely?

Instead of fulfilling her end of the deal, Lilac has now shot us with a whole bunch of questions ? Sounds like a distraction!

She is in a this LT relationship ........... I reckon her BF can answer them , good under the bed sheet questions to ask him too . Lol

Let to be seen if Lilac is really Lilac .........

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Originally Posted by ryanpumper

So it’s been a week since this bullshit post was “about to happen”..and all I read on here is you engaging with all the other comments.
So what happened?

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Originally Posted by 11Bravo

lilac, Drop a pebble in a lake and it creates a tidal wave.

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One dog barks at a shadow & many bark at the sound. ;)

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Originally Posted by F0x

There are a lot of questions here and not gunna lie, would have been ideal if bullet pointed.

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omg didn’t expect a legitimate answer to this at all, apologies for not making bullet points hahah. but i do have to say, i really appreciate this information, thank you so much.

these are the only parts I’d comment on as a woman:

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Originally Posted by F0x

Female nature is hideously erratic to the average man. Women are born of intense emotion. Everything is 'feel'. I 'feeeeel' like there was nothing in our relationship (meanwhile living in the absolute lap of luxury) I 'feeeeel' like the relationship wasn't working (married to a man worth X amount of billions of dollars whos attractive, hung, and does everything for her). You know what I mean.

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i do know what you mean, we are really emotionally driven creatures. but i think we’re often not that hard to understand as men make out. short answer, we’re more concerned with how things are said/done rather than what things are said/done.

i think because men have this idea that woman feel “loved” or satisfied in a relationship when the man is simply ‘high value’ and providing. of course, money and looks are ideal, just like a pretty, fit girl is ideal - but not at the expense if she’s a complete bitch. so it’s kinda similar.

women are more concerned with passion which is that ‘feeling’ - a special ‘spark’ or deep connection. we’re also highly driven by feeling special, desired, beautiful (similar to guys feeling strong, capable, powerful).

feeling like there’s nothing in the relationship meanwhile living a luxurious lifestyle = “my husband gives me a nice lifestyle but he’s always busy/unattentive, he’s always looking at other girls, he never does chivalrous gestures” etc etc, basically translates “my man doesn’t make me feel desired, or emotionally safe or secure, I can’t be my most genuine, peaceful, feminine-self, because I’m constantly having to be in my masculine energy in order to deal with my emotions/problems on my own and keep a level of guard up in case this man practices infidelity.”

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Originally Posted by F0x

We loved you how you were when we first met you. You marry us liking what we were, but wanting us to change into what you think is better.

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noooo this is so bullshit though. men always want their partner to be better too. there’s always never ending expectations of nicer dinners, cleaner house, more devotion etc. men are attracted to younger, more passive women, majorly because they are more mouldable to what they believe is ideal. sometimes it’s even a physical thing; dating a girl where you love her personality but hoping she can improve her looks to fit your ideal.

i laughed reading the next part, I do have to agree there are sooooo many toxic women who just talk and talk the same problem in circles and call it communication and then give the silent treatment too. and even use sex as a punishment. idk but in my experience this is usually good looking entitled girls who want a man they can control, rather than one that can lead them - just stay away from the ‘brain rot’ types lol. i promise you, not all of us are like this.

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Originally Posted by F0x

Uh, they are the ones you rejected, the ones in your friend zone. Those are the 'good' guys who would be with you through thick n thin.

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just because a guy is devoted and nice doesn’t make him a good partner or a “good guy”. there are plenty of girls who would be devoted to you but they’re not super hot, or they have a promiscuous past, etc, and men would not even consider her. so I don’t think it’s unfair for women to have realistic expectations/standards when it comes to looks or finances in dating too (note realistic is a key word lol). i have to say, many girls i know stuck with their partners who didn’t have much and now they are very wealthy together. i think men are actually inclined to love a girl for what she gives him (e.g. you love her cause she brings you peace, takes care of you, cooks your meals, etc) where i know many girls who stay with losers or toxic guys (“i can fix him”, “he wants to change”) etc.

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Originally Posted by F0x

Do you want slutty or nice?
- as per Ushers song 'Yeah!'
"We want a lady on the streets but a freak in the bed". End of story.

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all men say this but why don’t the “good girls” get more attention. as I mentioned, women’s nature is so focused on being the most beautiful, desired, usually measured by attention. why would we be sweet, innocent and cute when that never gets us approached anymore, and we only get approached in clubs wearing tiny mini dresses etc.

it creates such a huge dilemma for us of how to be and present ourselves because men SAY they prefer good girls but their actions never follow. we understand on a logical level it’s just sexual attention and not ‘wifey’ attention but because we want to be desired so bad it still affects us. men complain so much about girls all being hoes these days, then stop giving them so much attention and start asking out the cute, quieter girls…

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Originally Posted by F0x

Do you still like purity even if you've banged 100s of girls?
- yeah of course. That's a no brainer. The reverse question for a girl would be : do you want a guy who's got no idea what he doing in bed or a guy who has banged 100 women and knows the female body inside out? For us we love the idea of being your first, because virginity means that your reactions and emotions are also pure. Once you've banged 100 blokes you know how to act like you love it etc when you don't. Conversely a guy who has no idea what he is doing is a turn off for girls. But a bloke who knows how to dominate you and take you to an O, is sought after.

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hmm yes and no. of course it’s appealing to be with a guy that can satisfy you (especially when men have such a bad reputation of being able to lol). at the same time, me, most girls in my circle, we wouldn’t like men with ridiculously high body counts because 1) we feel like just another body and less special or less connection 2) we compare ourselves and wonder if we are the best and drive ourselves crazy feeling insecure and 3) we wonder if you’re ever going to be able to be happy with just us once your brain is so accustomed to promiscuity.

anywayyy just sharing my take as a woman, thank u again for the insight.

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Originally Posted by ColesBag

One dog barks at a shadow & many bark at the sound. ;)

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Brilliant. This one I'll remember. Cheers.

Vinnie???

So why many comments but no AR!!!

You are just another account of the delusional Vinnie. Aka old fat Chinese bald guy who loves writing about his hentai fantasiesÂ…Â….

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Originally Posted by Wombat1

Vinnie???

So why many comments but no AR!!!

You are just another account of the delusional Vinnie. Aka old fat Chinese bald guy who loves writing about his hentai fantasiesÂ…Â….

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Old, Bald, Fat and I’ll throw in for good measure covered in Tatts. Almost a Falang look, agree?

Reviews will happen but not under this account as the time is near.

100

No bald fat white pasty Chinese guy that does not get enough sun on his skin…..

But has very rough hands

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Originally Posted by Wombat1

Vinnie???

So why many comments but no AR!!!

You are just another account of the delusional Vinnie. Aka old fat Chinese bald guy who loves writing about his hentai fantasiesÂ…Â….

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You talking to me? You talking to me?... Fortunately, I'm not the only one in here. Number of people here, so it always helps when you quote who you're replying to. Just a suggestion to lessen confusion.

In one way, I have to hand it to ole Vincenzo. Maybe ex Stasi, Iranian secret police trained, SVR, MSS... He has everyone seeing him everywhere, distrusting everyone... :startle: Hell, maybe it's even effecting me... am I just too paranoid? :question:

Dear 11Bravo
There is nothing to admire here. I don’t care if it is Vinnie, I am concerned that you have concussion.

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Originally Posted by Massagecreep

Dear 11Bravo
There is nothing to admire here. I don’t care if it is Vinnie, I am concerned that you have concussion.

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Thanks for the thought, but: wore a helmet, wore a helmet (different helmets for different activities), wise enough to not beat my head against a wall...

Another bullshit thread ... hijacked by a bunch of bullshitters....🤣🤣🤣

Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Think about it, lilac a female punter started the thread and what started out as disbelief has evolved into false accusations, finger pointing, forum battling and this is how men behave in front of a woman? Plus apparently there’s been a few who have even tried cracking onto her. I have nothing against white women but this is a forum mostly about punting Asian women, why are members trying to get into a cauc’s panties?

Lilac I'm happy to call you a fellow punter. Good luck on your punting journey.

Yeah, Lilac, you're a fellow punter to me too. All the best with your punting adventures

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Originally Posted by Digby

why are members trying to get into a cauc’s panties?

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I personally don't racially discriminate when it comes to women. Like it says at the entrance of Chinatown " Within the four seas all women are fuckable " .

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Originally Posted by lilac

omg didn’t expect a legitimate answer to this at all, apologies for not making bullet points hahah. but i do have to say, i really appreciate this information, thank you so much.

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NOTE: 2nd wall of text. Don't read and move on if you CBF.

I won't answer everything but I will cover a few things.

++++Paragraph starting with really emotional creatures and ending with keep a level of guard up++++

Bear in mind the man might seem inattentive because he is busy trying to provide a good lifestyle. He may seem like he might practice infidelity because such a man will likely attract a lot of Women. If you make his life peaceful, provide a loving safe space for him and play your position and support, instead of being in your head about what if he cheats, what if I could do better, etc, then you'd be surprised.

Look at Hugh Jackman's Wife. They must still adore each other. She must be his safe place. Never doubts him, trusts his decisions, never questions herself or whatifs. She is probably far too mature as an older woman to think that kind of shenanigans anymore.

However having said that, Craig Ferguson, aka the fucking Rizzler, the Rizzlord, nay, the Rizzinator 1000, has been divorced twice. He is a high value man in a number of respects. He has a high net worth, tall, not bad looking, interesting accent, and most of all, as a comedian he definitely 'sparks' women. He has had some of the most gorgeous women on the planet on his show practically begging to suck him off on stage.

If HE has women leaving him (again probably didn't 'feeel' right) what are we mortals to do?

Always remember how you feel about something has no real bearing on what is actually happening. It's just a perception. It's like this whole thing on the forums of Thai girls being labelled the most money hungry when I have maybe had ONE Thai demonstrate that to me from the number I've seen. I've found Koreans to be far more inclined to this behaviour myself, but that doesn't mean I think every Korean girl is money hungry either.

Or woketevists feeling like any and every comment is something 'ist against something. Doesn't make it true because you feel it.


++++Paragraph with noooo this is so bullshit though. men always want their partner to be better too++++

Men do not need their partner to be better. This is an unequivocal fact. This is why a billionaire can be very happy with a checkout chick from Coles. We have absolutely zero care what you have accomplished in your life really. Sorry if that sounds harsh but it's true. Why do you think blokes are catching the feels for ML and WLs? From a very strictly technical point of view, do they not represent a very low career choice in the grand scheme of things? Like, checkout chick at Coles is a 'societally' better and more acceptable job than sex provider. Yet men can still fall in love with them (ml/wl).

CR7 (Ronaldo) dated several high value models in his time. Then what happened? He found a 'common' girl working a retail sales role. Granted it was at a luxury store (Hermes from memory? Cbf to search). Been with her ever since. And again there will always be outliers, so yeah of course there will be some men pushing their women to change physically to fit their ideal. But generally? Not really. You just have to be attractive ENOUGH to us that's all.

So sorry HARD disagree on this one.


++++Paragraph starting just because a guy is devoted and nice doesn’t make him a good partner or a “good guy”. And ending in know many girls who stay with losers or toxic guys (“i can fix him”, “he wants to change”) etc.+++++

Disagree with certain factors. A girl not being super hot or promiscuous past isn't that much of a deterrent depending remember I said you only have to be attractive enough, to us. Again, blokes catching the feels for MLs and WL? And I've had often much better punts with technically less attractive women than hot ones. I.e Pen/Esther is one of my favourites of all time. She isn't unattractive by any stretch of the imagination, but go see Thai Angela at SBM as an example. Much better looking, but absolute dude punt. Pen/Esther always provides a great time to everyone. She is sensual, and really gives you a 'GFE'. She is with you, present. Angel was probably doing her groceries in her head and wondering what time the gym closes while she was doing her thing

You saying a devoted and nice guy doesn't necessarily make a good partner is exactly the problem tbh. Women will tell themselves this yet simultaneously complain about getting treated like a walking set of holes because they keep getting with the opposite. Women love to have the cake and eat it too as the saying goes. And it's because generally women do not have to understand the word accountability they are bailed from things all the time.

Imagine if a guy kept complaining where are the nice quiet and cute girls, but keeps trying to get with the hoes in miniskirts, what would you think 🤣 you'd think he is the dumbest prick ever. But because men love women and care for them, we put up with this thought pattern from women haha.

Also of course a man loves what a women can provide him in terms of looking after his comforts etc. because we don't care about you helping financially, or really anything else, what you CAN provide us IS that comfort, peace and loving environment.

++++Paragraph about all men say this but why don’t the “good girls, then ending in cute quieter girls++++

You've misinterpreted it. The line refers to relationships. It's once we are with you. I.e we don't want you looking like a hoe next to us, but want you to be our HOEdeo once we get to the privacy of our homes.

Now, of course men are going to gravitate towards the dressed up chicks in minis. Men are sexual creatures and the fabric of our DNA has 'plant seed everywhere' encoded. We are naturally going to gravitate towards women who signal they might be easy because it's also less confusing to our minds as to whether a girl might be up to being approached. If you are dressed up, our minds think you are more likely to want to be approached, because you are attention grabbing. Logical right? Like a peacock displaying its feathers. It's probably looking for a mate.

Quieter (though not necessarily cuter tbh) girls are going to get less attention because well, obviously you're quieter. It's less obvious to us if you are willing to be approached.
Do you put oil on the squeaky wheel or the quiet one? 😜

If you are one of those, make it more obvious to a guy if you like them. Compliment them and 'lead' the interaction a bit more than normal. Goes against your programming, I get it, but guys are often both clueless to women's signals because they are so damn subtle most of the time, and on top of that, afraid to escalate sexually for fear of being destroyed by assault allegations.

So if you are a quieter and cuter girl, be more forthright in your intentions to actually get a guy you want. You don't need to outright say it, there's plenty of ways to go about it.

If you get rejected, welcome to our world, you can dust it off and try again (good old TLC).

For the last part, this might be the case but as mentioned earlier, women seem like they would still prefer to be subjected to that than be with a stable guy. It's more exciting to be in a constant state of emotion I guess than to be in a peaceful stable relationship. I think it's a case again of women wanting the cake and eating it too, you want all this emotional rollercoaster to make you 'feel' but somehow you also want a stable relationship at the same time. Please make up your minds! 🙏

Adieu.