As titled. Often see in shop advertisements that ML is "Open Minded" - so exactly what is it? Can I interpret that to mean anything above HJ? Does "Open Minded" mean FS /BJ/BBBJ or even NHJ ..
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As titled. Often see in shop advertisements that ML is "Open Minded" - so exactly what is it? Can I interpret that to mean anything above HJ? Does "Open Minded" mean FS /BJ/BBBJ or even NHJ ..
I think it's just hinting at extras
Yes. Means she will negotiate with you for sexQuote:
Originally Posted by Btman01
At 227 Broadway. It is specific, You can make it clear at reception and you pay extra for cbj. Then you can discuss in the room etc
Means sex can be negotiated as others have said
I don't think that has meaning anymore. Nearly all girls are open minded.
It means they are open to learning about Buddha and all the other belief systems.
All the while jerking you off.
True. Seems that working in a massage shop now means open mindedQuote:
Originally Posted by Wank_Somemore
It has no real meaning other than extras are possible in addition to what you paid upfront.
Open minded can range from nude HJ in the last 15 minutes of an hour's massage, all the way to FS.
Problem is as discussed many times here, that ML become very expensive when you pay too much for a bit of extras only in the last part of your booking.
WL in all cases are better economy than ML. With WL, nude from the first minute and no negotiations required at more $$$$$$.
In general, andrewv yes. And I agree that WLs are better value than MLs. However, there are exceptions that are sometime very satisfying. I find that if I ask on the phone whether a ML is open minded and how much I should expect to pay then it’s all upfront and comparable in price to visiting a brothel. Most often the receptionist will reply “ask the girl in the room.” But not always. Sometimes they give you all the information you need. There are several massage shops in Mascot where this applies.
As far as I know, there's only 1 shop that doesn't follow the standard definition of "open minded". It's a shop where the owner doesn't allow FS on premise. Go figure.
It’s really very simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btman01
You get fooled into entering the shop with high hopes of receiving a list as long as your arm of what the lovely girl is going to offer.😂
Once you get to the room all of a sudden open minded becomes limited to a few very expensive extras which are not what you expected .
So some will fold and pay $150 for some touching and a CBJ.
Waste of time and coin and often she’s fugly anyway as you don’t get a line up
You just get the next one in line
Thats not the case anymore before yes. It was toughQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
to get FS my strike was zero.
Last yr I went there 3 times md 3 times I got fs..it was easy just ask.
It's best to ask if extras are available at the beginning of the session. Negotiating with your dick in her hands is not smart! In my experience requests for extras are generally better received on a second visit rather than the first.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
Not sure which shop you are referring to. Saigon Princess used to ban the girls from doing FS
And did they advertise with "open minded" while still banning the practice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Massagecreep
The other shop is OK if they now fall in-line with our lingo. But any shop that advertises "Open Minded" yet bans FS on premise should be boycotted IMO. They're literally shitting on standards that we have set as a collective, punters and puntee alike. That term is not for them to use freely as they like just to lure in business.
Ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by Massagecreep
Yeah and but Ive had it many times there
"Open Minded" means a ML is well read and intellectual.
She could discuss existenlialism, quantum physics, English classics etc. with you. She probably speaks French and Spanish too and frequents libraries very often.
Please visit the establisments as a well-educated scholar.
Open minded is a just a fucken marketing gimmick.....and some blokes still queue up to buy that sales-pitch!
Reality check: if you roll in looking like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth she'll be extremely open minded - even if you're old, bald, and fat, but with good table manners and a thick wallet, over time a chick will become open minded. Anything between those two extremes is a roll of the dice.
Open minded just means subject to a visual inspection, personal connection, and available funds.
Open minded in 2025/2026= FS is on offer( secret code)
Agree 100% looks and money talks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
Good point. Emphasis on the "personal connection" part. Have you ever been in a situation, anywhere not just in punting, where the very first time you ever meet a girl, she just behaves like she's known you for a long time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
It always takes me by surprise. I could be ogling a girl for a while, gathering courage to talk to her, then when I finally do it, she just takes the lead from the get go. The rest is like a whirlwind and before I know it I'm in a relationship!
The same goes with MLs. I'd book a girl for the first time sight unseen thinking it would just be a run off the mill HJ sesh. Not very often, and only with K an C girls, they just really give me the vibe that they're "at ease" with me as soon as they come into the room. No formal greetings or whatever, they just come in talking about how they're having a bad day, etc. I'm again like a deer caught in the headlights but these first meetings usually lead to long-term regulars. None of them had any "open minded" on them either from my vague memory.
Girls can sometimes be so hard to figure out!
So many opinions on what "open-minded" means.....
In my view, "open-minded" means:
1. You will have to spend more money than shown on the price list, and
2. The girl will do a good sales job on you to see how much $$$ she can get out of you in the room for how little she could get away with.
I've been around this who thing for too many years. There is simply NO other definition of open-minded.
Painful reminder: The shops and girls objective is business. To get the maximum dollars for the least effort, without losing your business. The girl is not in love with you and thinking "oh, I love him so much, I want to do all I can to make him happy and satisfied."
Your objective is to get maximum bang for your buck for the least dollar amount.
The two objectives are in conflict.