If ecchi.g is preaching about respect it would seem a very juvenile argument often heard by the younger ignorant generation that " you have to earn respect to get respect" thus I assume the comment "Madonna has earned his chops long ago. I suggest you do the same before you try to crticise him."

It could be argued that Western society's norms of morality set the tone of the law although I do agree that law and morality can be mutually exclusive - one only has to site Korean law and what is morally right.

My original issue was people citing prices and performance that many of us on here do not get and wanting some direction to the " circle of shops where this is standard".

Now I'm sure many punters are not interested in some philosophical discussion about law, morality etc so I won't go on and on. As previously stated my intention of this thread was to get some fairness in Brisbane pricing and performance.

I don't believe asking those who have earned their chops long ago to enlighten us to where these shops are is too much to ask. I'm sure in their infant days of mongering they received good intelligence from seasoned punters.
As paddington, a shop owner from Sydney remarked we have to stand up (collectively) if we want things to change. Interesting comment too coming from one who you would think is in the business of keeping prices as high as possible.