I was thinking how unlucky that poor girl was that he randomly booked her. It has since come out that he had been a client of hers before. So she must have come to mind when he decided on his first innocent victim. With the empathy for wl’s that posters and visitors to this site have I can sense that this horrible crime has affected you all more than usual.

In the confrontation in the street I’d back a chair over a guy with a knife. It is both a shield at more than arms length, negating the knife guy’s own reach, with four stiff wooden leg weapons on the end of it. One of those punched straight into his front teeth would have him thinking twice. It wouldn’t have been any better for him into his throat or eye. A milk crate is more a very effective light and manoevreable defensive object, not much of a weapon, although swung into a hand it would really bite. Did you see the metal pole the firey had. It was a crowbar on one end with a few metal spikes on the other. That would have broken his arm in one swing, though it wouldn't have had the distance or shield advantages of a chair.

In fact he was well out weaponed with a barrier of guys forming a perimeter around him. Who was the guy that took him to the ground and how was that done? He was the one that moved into the safety zone and made the final difference and ended the standoff. Or was it a group effort or a couple of the guys that did it simultaniously? Why don’t journalists ever ask the obvious questions?

As has been mentioned elsewhere if this had been America the nutcase could have bought any type of gun he wanted from the local walmart and caused carnage. Here it is a knife, and a chair beats a knife pretty easily.

I liked what the police commissioner had to say. Instead of the wimpy ‘don’t get involved” shite previously run out he said that in the future you aren’t going to just face the police, you are going to face the citizenry. The mood has changed I think and the natural instincts of men to protect the tribe, to protect the innocent, are emerging.