Another stupid falling for a girl story - advice?

[andrewv]

My 5 cents worth, if it’s of any help.
I can look back at 16 years of “sugaring” probably 30+ girls who were all beautiful 19 to 35 year old.
Some lasted 18 months while most ranged from one meeting to 3 months.

Fact #1: when you’re paying, it’s not a relationship. It’s a business deal. After all, they would not continue to have sex with you if you don’t pay. Also, they never ever offer any unpaid freebies because they feel for you. Not even as a birthday present to you.

Fact #2: even the you ones are expert at manipulation. It’s in their DNA. They do it instinctively. It’s them having power over you and you are emotionally weak, coming back with cash every time.

Fact #3: these girls fuck younger guys free of charge when they meet online and at clubs. But never their sugar daddies.

My advice to any brother here is “as soon as you get any hint of feeling emotionally attached, cut and run”. Do not be so stupid and weak and discuss it with the girl. Take back your power and take your cash to the next girl. There are 4 times more girls than sugar daddies online.

Always look in the mirror and ask yourself, “am I strong and in charge, of giving cash to solicit affection?”

[begov94]

I always thought to myself, if people knew what they want but still pretend to be in denial of all those things, what should I say?

If I agree with their words, they'll get stirred up inside. If I disagree then they're the ones trying to stir me up.

So I learned a new approach. If it's someone close to me, I'll disagree with their words just so that I can agree with their hidden views. If they're not and just spewing misguided opinions, I'll agree with them regardless of my own opinions. They'll get stirred up but it's their own faults.

My opinion in this situation is dependant on the girl you're after:

If you want a girl that eases into a relationship within several months (or even several weeks), be prepared for a huge disappointment. Many white girls are like that, moving in together as quickly as a matter of several weeks. Then you realise it's too late to leave the relationship without initiating a civil war.

If you're patient enough to wait for a girl who takes her time to declare the relationship official, you might be striking gold or diamond. It's tricky to know if she's playing you or if she's genuine, so at this point you'll also need to suss her out. If she sheds crocodile tears or isn't moved when you tell her you're not tolerating her nonsense, she's bad news. But if she's the one being compassionate and makes it up to you, you can trust her.

Think of it as if you're wooing a hot young restaurant owner. If she drains your wallet by making you buy the most expensive meal on the menu and gouging the price up every couple visits then you need to stop. But if she always gives suggestions on value for money, delicious meals on the menu and sometimes even takes charge of the kitchen in order to make the meal special for you, then you know she wants you to be her future husband and potential restaurant partner.

Tbh it is rare to find sex workers these days that are worthy of chasing. At least I found mine - she didn't gouge her prices with me, kept the sex really hot and passionate, and made me feel like she really enjoyed having me there. And when I'm quiet on the forum she always find ways to get me logging back in... 😅

[JSteel96]

I don't think its that rare to find a WL that's worthy of chasing if she is Asian and does a good in bed its very easy to fall in love esp if your thinking with your dick and not your mind.

[begov94]

If I think with my dick I would be chasing all the WLs that gave me multiple orgasms in a single hour with zero convos.

But when I think with my mind, I chase the person who immediately got excited and remembers my face even after we haven't seen each other for months and offers extras immediately when asked.

[gannicus]

What do you mean you're the only one paying for her and she says she prefers to keep it in the room?

So she's not a wl working in a shop and you see her privatly at home or hotel? How did you know her and how did this kind of arrangement start?

If she's not a wl, I'd say just go with it and enjoy while it lasts, don't think too much.

[NightShift]

I'm back with another stupid "falling" for a girl story - but this time not with a ML/WL.

I recently ventured into the sugar baby realm and I met this Japanese girl - shes 20, beautiful (literally a 10/10 in my books) and is really interesting. Shes into the clubbing scene and raves but a big weed user.

I have been seeing her for the past 2-3 months and it's been great - besides me catching feels...again. The way she looks at me, the way we kissed, it was like I was making love to her instead of fucking - it felt real? It felt too good.

We talked about our feelings, well mine. She seemed to avoid it a bit and ultimately said she is crap at relationships and wasn't after anything serious (I'm kinda the same). To be honest, I just wanted to spend more time with her and get to know her more. She mentioned she likes me but wants to just keep in the room. She mentioned i'm the only guy paying for her (not sure If I believe that) but she has a few sexual partners. We have been doing it unprotected (another attribution to my feelings) but found out shes been doing it with 3-4 other guys too which kinda drove my head into overdrive.

I find myself watching her Instagram stories constantly and whenever she live streams on TikTok.

Essentially now my feelings are just wrecking my brain and im not sure what to do. I want to keep seeing her because the sex is amazing but the emotional damage is real. Thoughts?

I don't blame this girl at all, she only acting how you allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE55YFkm8NQ

we are all learning, A few weeks ago, I personally decided to no longer date girls that vape..

What is there less of in Australia? Men that make over 100K a year? OR young pretty girls?

there's less of us, we are rare. pretty girls are a dime a dozen..

i don't blame girls for behaving the way that they do. i blame the men that allow it.

[JSteel96]

I heard one day of vaping is like a month of normal smoking. The girls that vape now are going to get health & dental problems later on when their in their 30s & 40s. Vaping is not healthy its a drug addiction. Yes when it comes to WLs there are plenty avail its not rare to find one you'd like to chase. But chasing and stalking its a fine line between the two. The WL may not like being chased.

[blanet]

On the subject of Japanese working ladies, is it customary for them to thank you via text message at the end of her shift? I’ve been seeing a Japanese ml and more often than not, no matter the time of day I see her, she’ll send a message after work to thank me for coming to see her and that she had a good time . Granted I was the one who asked for her number in the first place and I’m guessing she does it to build business relations with good customers.

[JSteel96]

On the subject of Japanese working ladies, is it customary for them to thank you via text message at the end of her shift? I’ve been seeing a Japanese ml and more often than not, no matter the time of day I see her, she’ll send a message after work to thank me for coming to see her and that she had a good time . Granted I was the one who asked for her number in the first place and I’m guessing she does it to build business relations with good customers.

I think it means she wants you to keep coming back to see her. She's just an ML is she prepared to do FS with you in private? You got her number that means you could hook up away from the shop. Just agree with her how far she'll go with you and a price, is she offering extras?

[begov94]

I heard one day of vaping is like a month of normal smoking. The girls that vape now are going to get health & dental problems later on when their in their 30s & 40s. Vaping is not healthy its a drug addiction. Yes when it comes to WLs there are plenty avail its not rare to find one you'd like to chase. But chasing and stalking its a fine line between the two. The WL may not like being chased.

Haha, I knew you'd slip something between the lines.

Vaping and hookah is equally bad.

The WL that likes being chased though, is the one that always makes you feel like a husband mid marriage - annoys the husband constantly and has makeup sex at night, then repeats it again until they grow old.

Having the whole week off. I woke up 7.30 this morning but went back to sleep. Woke up again at 10am. In between that I went into another lucid dream. Saw some revelations about someone's past which is quite interesting.

[blanet]

I think it means she wants you to keep coming back to see her. She's just an ML is she prepared to do FS with you in private? You got her number that means you could hook up away from the shop. Just agree with her how far she'll go with you and a price, is she offering extras?

She already does Fs in the shop but she gave an excuse when asked if she would consider working privately at her place. Ideally if she had agreed I would’ve like to see what price she would’ve offered since the shop is out of the picture.

[JSteel96]

She already does Fs in the shop but she gave an excuse when asked if she would consider working privately at her place. Ideally if she had agreed I would’ve like to see what price she would’ve offered since the shop is out of the picture.

That's your best bet because if she stops working at the shop at least you can just book her whenever you want and just go to her place. Or get her to come to your place if you don't have a wife. The fact she texts makes me think she is interested in a FWB or sugar situation with you. Go for it bro.

[blanet]

That's your best bet because if she stops working at the shop at least you can just book her whenever you want and just go to her place. Or get her to come to your place if you don't have a wife. The fact she texts makes me think she is interested in a FWB or sugar situation with you. Go for it bro.

J girls are hard to read as you can’t tell if she is agreeable out of cultural politeness or whether it’s from a place of sincerity. I may try going for a sugar arrangement if she quits working in shops. I’m kind of glad she keeps it professional and doesn’t complicate things with emotions otherwise I’d be making one of these posts. I think punters confuse lust with love sometimes.

[JSteel96]

J girls are hard to read as you can’t tell if she is agreeable out of cultural politeness or whether it’s from a place of sincerity. I may try going for a sugar arrangement if she quits working in shops. I’m kind of glad she keeps it professional and doesn’t complicate things with emotions otherwise I’d be making one of these posts. I think punters confuse lust with love sometimes.

Yes many guys confuse lust and love for sure. Keep texting her and see if she will agree to private. You can maybe get her banking details in the long run you can send her payments for each sugar visit. Hope she gives you a fair price for the arrangement. In the meantime keep seeing her in the shop so you can maybe talk to her in person at the shop and see if she's happy with being your sugar baby. Good luck.

[begov94]

Easy to read between the lines you know.

Well, if someone wants to be a sugar baby it depends on the arrangement. Maybe go out on a few dinner dates first before agreeing on sex and what to charge. Most Seeking reviews I've seen did that in the early days, because these girls normally work on their own.

[begov94]

J girls are hard to read as you can’t tell if she is agreeable out of cultural politeness or whether it’s from a place of sincerity. I may try going for a sugar arrangement if she quits working in shops. I’m kind of glad she keeps it professional and doesn’t complicate things with emotions otherwise I’d be making one of these posts. I think punters confuse lust with love sometimes.

What about when they start behaving like a nagging wife?

[JSteel96]

What about when they start behaving like a nagging wife?

Then its time to marry the girl and have a great ongoing sex life with her. Unless you marry her and she stops doing it with you,

[begov94]

Then its time to marry the girl and have a great ongoing sex life with her. Unless you marry her and she stops doing it with you,

Yup. You said it yourself.

[JSteel96]

Yup. You said it yourself.

Your converting my advice if you really infatuated with a WL marry her if you can. What ya got to lose? Gain, lots of bjs & Asian food?

[begov94]

Your converting my advice if you really infatuated with a WL marry her if you can. What ya got to lose? Gain, lots of bjs & Asian food?

You misunderstood me. I was agreeing to the phrase "its time to marry the girl and have a great ongoing sex with her". Of course I'd lose out if I walk away.

She never told me if she was a good cook but I'd be glad to try her cooking. The bj might phase out once we have kids but I'll enjoy the time when she readily gives bjs at the start of the marriage. I'm marrying her only because I've been infatuated with her for the past 3 years.