My Seeking.com (sugarbaby) experience

[rooter]

I am really struggling to understand why you guys go through all this stress and research and disappointment and scams just to get a fuck.
Why not just go to an established brothel or a reputable escort agency.
Stop kidding yourself, it is the same thing, you are paying for sex, you are fucking a young hot girl who if you were not paying would not even look at you.
I thought the whole point of paying for sex was to not have all these complications and stress.
Just pay and have sex with with a young hot chick, cum in her mouth and fuck off.
But you guys want to have coffee and dinner and shopping and the zoo and the aquarium and Luna Park and fuck knows what else.
It seems to me like you are in a lose lose situation - you are paying for sex but there are still strings attached (actually it more like ropes or steel cables attached) and you get all the shit that comes with a relationship but you are paying for it. WTF? It makes no sense at all to me.
Anyway maybe it's just me. Enjoy whatever you are doing bros. We are all punters.
Just maybe take time out to think about what you are doing.

[Sibon]

I read up on all the sugar related threads on the site (Note: I'm not selling subscriptions or ebooks). Sharing my experiences from Seeking after <1week of a subscription.

General obs:

Most openly discuss ppm up front within the app which was surprising. Understood that mentioning ppm would get you suspended. Initially my reaction was to suggest chatting on another platform. Some didn't respond after that but after seeing how often ppm is being mentioned I'm now just going with it. Half expecting a ban coming especially if I piss someone off and get reported.

Some girls are too good to be true. Chatted with a profile of a gorgeous Korean looking girl with a sleeve who immediately asked for ppm. Figured this was too easy so stopped talking and later saw a very similar looking Korean girl with a sleeve. Can't be sure if it was a scammer or a girl who made multiple profiles but so many girls out there to bother if she doesn't pass the sniff test.

On the other hand, some may be the real deal... Time will tell.

Notable potentials:

32 yo AB Malaysian girl. Profile was very subtle but found out she'd done some femdom/worship sessions previously but not PIV. Was open to it with me but asking 600 protected FS. Read previous reports that bbfs was common so I took a pass on this one. Didn't want to invest the time/effort and regret it now as we had a lot in common. Plenty of fish though.

31 yo from Beijing. Cute but was just travelling through. Ignored my question when I asked if she was open to intimacy one morning and said she needed a coffee. Figured she was just looking for a free meal so left it at that.

21yo Jap girl from Tokyo. Loves to party and has that carefree vibe that early 20s girls at OPM do. Because of that I didn't mind her asking for ppm from the get go (good with 500). Takes forever to reply on WhatsApp so probably working through all her options. Invitation for a drink still waiting for a response.

25 yo British arab - dark skin, tatts, curly hair, fit as fuck, great beach body. Was super eager for a long term arrangement mentioned needing to pay rent and wanting to stay for a few years. Reeked of desperation (apparently was into Asian guys lmao). I only commited to drinks and she wanted to be paid for that too as 'it's not a dating site'. Apparently doesn't know what 'mutual' means and wants to treat me with contempt AND take my money. A few girls like this on there but not wasting my time dressing them down before blocking.

21 yo cauc studying a similar field in which I work so we've got commonalities. Was open to intimacy but went quiet after I asked for some face photos. Still holding out hope but I may have scared her away.

29yo Latina with private face and bikini photos. Bangin' bod, petite, ass that's not overly thicc, but just a little bigger than proportional. A face like Miranda Kerr to boot. Slow to reply and waiting for her to add me on WhatsApp. Concerned how likely I am to think with the small head on this one...

29yo Asian (could get a straight answer on her ethnicity). Petite with a cute little nose and skinny thighs. The only one I've met irl and is new to sugaring, has had three bf's and only met with two other SD's who both turned out to be creeps. This sweet little thing offered to pay for my beer at the pub because I got dinner. We got to talking about intimacy and I get the feeling she has not climaxed before. May hit the jackpot if I give her the most romantic and passionate fuck of her life. Looking to meet later this week and excited despite her insisting on CFS. To be continued.

Where have you got so much time to waste on these girls?

Don't you have a job? hobbies or play sport?

[JSteel96]

I am really struggling to understand why you guys go through all this stress and research and disappointment and scams just to get a fuck.
Why not just go to an established brothel or a reputable escort agency.
Stop kidding yourself, it is the same thing, you are paying for sex, you are fucking a young hot girl who if you were not paying would not even look at you.
I thought the whole point of paying for sex was to not have all these complications and stress.
Just pay and have sex with with a young hot chick, cum in her mouth and fuck off.
But you guys want to have coffee and dinner and shopping and the zoo and the aquarium and Luna Park and fuck knows what else.
It seems to me like you are in a lose lose situation - you are paying for sex but there are still strings attached (actually it more like ropes or steel cables attached) and you get all the shit that comes with a relationship but you are paying for it. WTF? It makes no sense at all to me.
Anyway maybe it's just me. Enjoy whatever you are doing bros. We are all punters.
Just maybe take time out to think about what you are doing.

When I found mine years back it was about having a regular girl for sex forget the dinner date tho sometime we have lunch together, we don't do the dating crap she knows I am married. So we hook up for sex weekly but I PPM her $250 I guess cause I known her so long she never upped her price on me and sometimes doesn't want payment. These days an SB is like $500-$800 plus hotel so I tend to agree with rooter you could just go to a brothel for less money. But the result is with a long term private situation there is often a connection that you can enjoy, where as a brothel is fuck and forget most of the time. Tho some guys find a connection in a brothel and think they are in love.

So why we go through the stress of looking for an SB. A long time secret friendship with a girl you make love with every week is better than a gal in a brothel you have zero connection with. For some its even more than that when they can take the SB out on dates and have a good time and make other plans to see her. You just can't do that with a regular WL. A long term SB is like a secret sexual relationship with no commitment. Your going to get laid every week and enjoy the sex, as long as you can afford to do so. These SBs appreciate guys with their own house, car etc. Brothels can be a problem if you get a WL who turns out to be a dud.

[rooter]

When I found mine years back it was about having a regular girl for sex forget the dinner date tho sometime we have lunch together, we don't do the dating crap she knows I am married. So we hook up for sex weekly but I PPM her $250 I guess cause I known her so long she never upped her price on me and sometimes doesn't want payment. These days an SB is like $500-$800 plus hotel so I tend to agree with rooter you could just go to a brothel for less money. But the result is with a long term private situation there is often a connection that you can enjoy, where as a brothel is fuck and forget most of the time. Tho some guys find a connection in a brothel and think they are in love.

So why we go through the stress of looking for an SB. A long time secret friendship with a girl you make love with every week is better than a gal in a brothel you have zero connection with. For some its even more than that when they can take the SB out on dates and have a good time and make other plans to see her. You just can't do that with a regular WL. A long term SB is like a secret sexual relationship with no commitment. Your going to get laid every week and enjoy the sex, as long as you can afford to do so. These SBs appreciate guys with their own house, car etc. Brothels can be a problem if you get a WL who turns out to be a dud.

Enjoy bro!
I respect people that climb mountains, or go caving, or deep sea diving, but it's not something I would want to do. I guess I am just lazy. Enjoy bro!

[Sibon]

Enjoy bro!
I respect people that climb mountains, or go caving, or deep sea diving, but it's not something I would want to do. I guess I am just lazy. Enjoy bro!

Climbing up on a narrow creaky massage table could be equally challenging.

[JSteel96]

Enjoy bro!
I respect people that climb mountains, or go caving, or deep sea diving, but it's not something I would want to do. I guess I am just lazy. Enjoy bro!

I been in near death experience some years ago after that I decided I was going to get all the extra I can get in life. Life is too short. I do go on about my regular gal on here a fair bit, I just feel she and I have a good arrangement going together, then there is the brothels for variety. You can always earn money back but sexual pleasure is something amazing that you need to enjoy when ever you can. Its special.

[Double_Adapter]

Climbing up on a narrow creaky massage table could be equally challenging.

If the table is made of solid oak then it's not a prob, it's the portable-foldable Chinese massage foldabke that you gotta avoid. I once snapped the headrest during a passionate session with a Japanese private.

The Thai places generally use the solid timber massage tables. They go for around $600 (from memory)

[andrewv]

I talked to one who proposed $500 per meet. Didn't take the offer

Then one day she offered a $200 FS session in a shop in Surry Hills. Didn't take the offer too.

I missed the opportunity to be a Sugardaddy to a WL.

Hahaa... Of course. I did say this earlier. Several so-called sugar babies are also ML/WL at shops. About 4 years ago there was a nice Indian girl on seeking, early 30s. I was in touch with her but never met. Then 3 or 4 months later she send me a message saying she is working at some brothel at Witherlpark (very far from me) under an assumed name (she gave me) and I was welcome to go see her there. I never did. Fast forward maybe 12 months and she send another random message saying she has a girlfriend and she sent me the photo who would be willing to do a 3-some with me as long as there is no kissing with the other girl and me. Some of these girls keep a long list of the guys they contacted.

[keebab]

Gotta say I agree with Rooter. I've never been down the SB route (and its not that I'm not curious) but all the extra effort, scams and costs doesn't really sound like fun. It seems just as fraught with problems as regular dating with a $500 additional price tag.

[Sibon]

If the table is made of solid oak then it's not a prob, it's the portable-foldable Chinese massage foldabke that you gotta avoid. I once snapped the headrest during a passionate session with a Japanese private.

The Thai places generally use the solid timber massage tables. They go for around $600 (from memory)

First room in 84A Atarmon creaks and shakes like hell.

Some punters love it because it gives extra sliding movement.

I think they bought it from a museum.

[andrewv]

Gotta say I agree with Rooter. I've never been down the SB route (and its not that I'm not curious) but all the extra effort, scams and costs doesn't really sound like fun. It seems just as fraught with problems as regular dating with a $500 additional price tag.

You're right. Organising hotel rooms and trying not to make it too obvious how you meet at the hotel (e.g. she comes a little while after you check-in then waits for you outside the lift,...)
Then some girls on seeking are not reliable. They ghost you and do not show up.

One trick by the sugar babies is to tell us guys that they want to be paid $$ to come for M&G (Meet and Greet -- have coffee or a drink before you proceed to hotel/sex).
Some girls demand anywhere from $50 to $200 to M&G.... and after 20 minutes, they leave and never reply to messages. They keep going around meeting prospective sugar daddies for coffee and collecting cash.

Also, some of those hot-looking 18 to 24-year-old sugar babies are lousy in bed. Seriously so. Unlike ML/WL, some of the seeking.com uni students get undressed and lie on bed and do fuck nothing.

There is definitely an advantage to massage places and brothels -- where the girls know what is expecting of them for the hour.

[andrewv]

I am really struggling to understand why you guys go through all this stress and research and disappointment and scams just to get a fuck.
Why not just go to an established brothel or a reputable escort agency.
Stop kidding yourself, it is the same thing, you are paying for sex, you are fucking a young hot girl who if you were not paying would not even look at you.
I thought the whole point of paying for sex was to not have all these complications and stress.
Just pay and have sex with with a young hot chick, cum in her mouth and fuck off.
But you guys want to have coffee and dinner and shopping and the zoo and the aquarium and Luna Park and fuck knows what else.
It seems to me like you are in a lose lose situation - you are paying for sex but there are still strings attached (actually it more like ropes or steel cables attached) and you get all the shit that comes with a relationship but you are paying for it. WTF? It makes no sense at all to me.
Anyway maybe it's just me. Enjoy whatever you are doing bros. We are all punters.
Just maybe take time out to think about what you are doing.

I have an answer for you. Sugar babies are often girls you cannot find in a shop. Also, they don't watch the clock so when you are fucking you don't worry about how many minutes you have left in your booking.

Another point that I like is sugar babies do not fuck 10 to 15 guys every day they're on the roster. For some of us, it isn't a great feeling that you are about to start your 45 or 60-minute session in a shop knowing the girl has just washed her pussy 5 minutes ago after the previous guy fucked her, and as soon as you leave, she will have another punter banging her...

But of course so-called sugaring has its down side as I wrote before.

[Riff888]

I guess it's a bit of a rush for me.

Like, meeting a girl for the first time, BBFSCIP straight away. Girls from 19 to 33 who stop traffic walking down the street with you.

Of course they want money, so do 95% of women in any relationship. I've lost more being married then on SBs.

I think it was way more exciting when I was single, living in a city apartment.

I'd love getting a call from a crazy SB at 2am, saying pick me up from a party. Only to end up BBFS in the back of my car at this empty space in North Strathfield next to the M4.

Just made me feel like I was in my 20s, totally spontaneous.

Just don't let them move in with you.

[GoldfishMan]

I am really struggling to understand why you guys go through all this stress and research and disappointment and scams just to get a fuck.

I think it boils down to one thing, on a high level: BBFS.

To be more detailed, it's about removal of inhibitions and BBFS just happens to be the best thing out of the other things you get when that happens.

Sure, you can get that in shops too, but that requires arguably equal if not more effort and money than SB hunting.

[Abracadabra]

Can understand why a lot of punters enjoy SD. I simply don't have the motivation, time or circumstances to take part and revert to WLs.

I wonder if SDs are a few steps closer to "normal" and this provides the attraction??

I spent a lot of time (and$$s) in Asia's escort bars, particularly the hotel variety where the girls circulated, you connected with many over a few hours, flirting, enjoying a drink, some chit chat and sizing them up from the other side of the bar before making a decision and taking one back to your room.

It was fun, expensive and had a manufactured thrill of the chase.

But quite obviously, despite the normal bar environment they were simply WLs in a different form.

[JSteel96]

The best thing of having an SB is you can just text her when you want to meet up. You know its going to be good sex if you have been ongoing with her for a while and your like good friends. Not all SBs sleep with multiple guys like WLs in shops, some SBs are exclusive. With mine she often lets one of her Asian lady friends join in. All I have to do is text a time and head over to her place. Convenient. No bullshit from her. No time watching.

[ditchtheboss]

The best thing of having an SB is you can just text her when you want to meet up. You know its going to be good sex if you have been ongoing with her for a while and your like good friends. Not all SBs sleep with multiple guys like WLs in shops, some SBs are exclusive. With mine she often lets one of her Asian lady friends join in. All I have to do is text a time and head over to her place. Convenient. No bullshit from her. No time watching.

Exactly, it is a completely different ball game from the brothels but as much as they are sleeping with as for sex it is not one after another. With my previous SBs as we got familiar and comfortable with each other the sex got better, more spontaneous and natural, there is no procedure, no buzzer, no next booking and I have always stayed with them for several hours. Quite a few times after sex they would do their thing for a while, I would do my thing and then back to bed, food, more wax, etc. it is different all together from the brothels

[BigPedro666]

It's not as good as it used to be precovid. It's becoming expensive escorts.

[keebab]

It's so funny how motivated we all are here by BBCIP. It's so fucking primal haha.

I fully appreciate the flexibility and not having to watch the clock. Its the one thing I dislike about brothels especially if I have a good connection with the WL. I guess the real challenge to SD/SB is sifting through the bullshit and finding the gems you can build a longer term relationship with.

[JSteel96]

It's not as good as it used to be precovid. It's becoming expensive escorts.

but then so is everything else nowadays expensive. You have to prioritize your wants in life and some extra things you just have to pay up. But you should still be able to find WL escorts or ML with extras etc $150-$300. $500 for an SB is kind of on the high side but if the guy can afford her and she is good then she will take care of his needs.