Sydney man who paid escorts with bounced checks charged with rape

[Axeman123]

Hayne married his wife in 2021.
The alleged 'rape' occurred in 2018, well before he married (as did the other case in the US).
If she believes him to be innocent then she is simply supporting her partner and not 'wanting to lose money' is likely not at play given the figures it has been said to have cost him to date (legal costs etc).

He could get a start with Parra now. Fuck knows they need someone.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Consent being contingent on payment could open up a massive can of worms imo

What kind of can of worms?

[ColesBag]

That link is behind a paywall as you said, could you copy and paste the text over to here please.

Go to 12ft.io & past the link to the story & it will show it.

[nosytt]

Should have used afterpay

[Minathy8724]

According to the article, this matter is of significant public interest. His company, Babylon, and his career are in serious jeopardy. All his friends, family, and business associates (LinkedIn) will want to distance themselves from him. What was he thinking? He should have sought advice. The consequences of paying with a bounced cheque will come back to bite him hard. He might have a low IQ or be suffering from something else.

[GoldfishMan]

Consent being contingent on payment could open up a massive can of worms imo

I think it's actually great for punters, if you pay up of course. In the event of a spiteful woman rescinding consent after the fact, proof of payment will work in your favour, no?

[GoldfishMan]

Hayne married his wife in 2021.
The alleged 'rape' occurred in 2018, well before he married (as did the other case in the US).
If she believes him to be innocent then she is simply supporting her partner and not 'wanting to lose money' is likely not at play given the figures it has been said to have cost him to date (legal costs etc).

It might surprise a lot of bros here that there are many who believe in his innocence, including other women.

[Abracadabra]

It might surprise a lot of bros here that there are many who believe in his innocence, including other women.

It may be a mitigating element, but you would think that consent would be the overriding factor and she can withdraw that at any time.
The brothel/paid sex transactional basis could and likely would cloud the issue but the basic principles of consent would apply once the circumstances are unravelled...

[Abracadabra]

It may be a mitigating element, but you would think that consent would be the overriding factor and she can withdraw that at any time.
The brothel/paid sex transactional basis could and likely would cloud the issue but the basic principles of consent would apply once the circumstances are unravelled...

Sorry, was replying to your earlier comment and then you must have posted again while I was finalising my reply and my comment was assigned to your latest post ???

[mahlerkay]

I don't know how the scam works but Indians are hitting shops with a PayID scam where they show sending money but I am guessing call the bank in the 24hr "first transfer" window and cancel it.

My regular was a victim of this last week. She showed it to me in the banking app. A credit then a debit from the payer. Yes, the name of the scammer was South Asian.

[GoldfishMan]

It may be a mitigating element, but you would think that consent would be the overriding factor and she can withdraw that at any time.
The brothel/paid sex transactional basis could and likely would cloud the issue but the basic principles of consent would apply once the circumstances are unravelled...

Yes, consent can be rescinded at anytime except, in my opinion, after the fact. I mean, surely there must be a limit to everything, right?
This proof of payment thing I reckon is solid proof. At least to a certain degree, it'll help. It sure beats only having your words against her words when it comes down to it.

[GoldfishMan]

My regular was a victim of this last week. She showed it to me in the banking app. A credit then a debit from the payer. Yes, the name of the scammer was South Asian.

Farking scumbags, deserve all the shit and discrimination coming their way.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Farking scumbags, deserve all the shit and discrimination coming their way.

Sounded like it was just one guy.

[mahlerkay]

Sounded like it was just one guy.

I'm sure that the PayID scam has been used in transactions other than just punting.

Whoever exploited it first must have 'spread the good word' to their buddies, hence it's popping up everywhere.

[mn69]

I am absolutely shocked that Indians are doing that, shocked I tell you.

Me too. If only someone had known !

[mn69]

My regular was a victim of this last week. She showed it to me in the banking app. A credit then a debit from the payer. Yes, the name of the scammer was South Asian.

I can see why alot of WL's/ML's are "no Indians"

Not just here, but all around the world too.

[Abracadabra]

Yes, consent can be rescinded at anytime except, in my opinion, after the fact. I mean, surely there must be a limit to everything, right?
This proof of payment thing I reckon is solid proof. At least to a certain degree, it'll help. It sure beats only having your words against her words when it comes down to it.

Agree, the morning after syndrome
~ no option to withdraw after the deed is done with free mind and will.

What would be interesting here is that if her consent was given and conditional on valid payment, which was later shown to be fraudulent, meaning the consent was illegally obtained ??? .......

[mn69]

Agree, the morning after syndrome
~ no option to withdraw after the deed is done with free mind and will.

What would be interesting here is that if her consent was given and conditional on valid payment, which was later shown to be fraudulent, meaning the consent was illegally obtained ??? .......

If consent was fraudulent or obtained illegally through deception, like having sex when someone is under influence of drugs. Wouldnt that be "statutory rape"

So its still rape at the end of the day.

[GoldfishMan]

Yes, it's no different from spiking a girl's drink to get her "consent". Just cannot get away with shit like that.

[Hedonisticfun]

My regular was a victim of this last week. She showed it to me in the banking app. A credit then a debit from the payer. Yes, the name of the scammer was South Asian.

same happened with my regular WL, money was deposited into her account then debited , surprised as I wasn*t aware that this was possible . The punter just seemed so genuine or convincing in his spiel even though she was very wary and finally relented to not having cash payment . Apparently tried to have him charged but motor licence photo ID was fake , not sure on further action Was supposedly from Winston Hills .