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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    A tax rebate for first homebuyers is a great way to push up house prices and does nothing for supply and Labor's plan isn't much better.
    This is so true - both parties have no interest in lowering the price of housing or dramatically effecting supply. Can you imagine the news headlines if a party introduces an actual policy and pricing drops 5%? "Millions lost from your pocket".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechPunter View Post
    This is so true - both parties have no interest in lowering the price of housing or dramatically effecting supply. Can you imagine the news headlines if a party introduces an actual policy and pricing drops 5%? "Millions lost from your pocket".
    Dutton actually said yesterday he wants house prices to keep rising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Dutton actually said yesterday he wants house prices to keep rising.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-...2025/105173904

    "I don't want to see a situation where Labor crashes the economy and somebody who's paid $750,000 for a house today is worth $600,000 in 18 months' time under an Albanese government. That would be a disaster.".

    It would only be a disaster if that person was trying to flip that home in 18 months. I don't get it with this guy. Is he so lost in his own world of profiting from house flipping and insider share trading that he can't even see what the Aussie public is saying to him so loudly and clearly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-...2025/105173904

    "I don't want to see a situation where Labor crashes the economy and somebody who's paid $750,000 for a house today is worth $600,000 in 18 months' time under an Albanese government. That would be a disaster.".

    It would only be a disaster if that person was trying to flip that home in 18 months. I don't get it with this guy. Is he so lost in his own world of profiting from house flipping and insider share trading that he can't even see what the Aussie public is saying to him so loudly and clearly?
    I'm obviously trying to appeal to existing homeowners and mortgage holders. The flip side is that if house prices "steadily increase" then wages need to also steadily increase, preferably slighter faster than house prices but he won't say that because that'd piss off the business lobby.

    In other news, here's their pitch for the youth vote.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIa6JoFiGsB/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinSeeker View Post
    Can't see where he has promised that. Also can you trust Mr Backflip? Labour has promised a $1000 automatic deduction.

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    From ABC News: Peter Dutton pledges one-off $1,200 tax offset to half of taxpayers


    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-...fset/105169986

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR View Post
    From ABC News: Peter Dutton pledges one-off $1,200 tax offset to half of taxpayers


    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-...fset/105169986
    AKA inflationary election bribe.

    Respected economist Saul Eastlake called Dutton's housing policy "the worst public policy decision of the 21st century".

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    One-off 1200 rebate and will extract double the amount next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    AKA inflationary election bribe.

    Respected economist Saul Eastlake called Dutton's housing policy "the worst public policy decision of the 21st century".
    You are a dog with a bone Vinnie. It would be a great leap to think the ABC is going to support the LNP on any subject, policy or topic ever in the lead up to an election. They live in fear that one day someone with balls will come along and cut their bloated funding. So the enemy will always be painted badly 😡

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-...2025/105173904

    "I don't want to see a situation where Labor crashes the economy and somebody who's paid $750,000 for a house today is worth $600,000 in 18 months' time under an Albanese government. That would be a disaster.".

    It would only be a disaster if that person was trying to flip that home in 18 months. I don't get it with this guy. Is he so lost in his own world of profiting from house flipping and insider share trading that he can't even see what the Aussie public is saying to him so loudly and clearly?
    Labor has already crashed the economy. My Duttons family business is building and development. Developing and selling is the business. What is wrong with that? And where is your evidence on insider trading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Dutton actually said yesterday he wants house prices to keep rising.
    What person who owns a house does not want it to keep rising in value over time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampslikeus55 View Post
    You are a dog with a bone Vinnie. It would be a great leap to think the ABC is going to support the LNP on any subject, policy or topic ever in the lead up to an election. They live in fear that one day someone with balls will come along and cut their bloated funding. So the enemy will always be painted badly ��
    Does Saul Eastlake work for the ABC? What are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    What person who owns a house does not want it to keep rising in value over time?
    Of course and it's inevitable. But wages need to rise too no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Labor has already crashed the economy. My Duttons family business is building and development. Developing and selling is the business. What is wrong with that? And where is your evidence on insider trading?
    Crashed the economy how? Inflation down to Reserve Bank target, interest rates going down, unemployment at record lows, wages have risen, What metrics are you referring to?

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    I'm not a huge Labor fan, I think they're not much better than the LNP, but you gotta look at the actual data, not just have feels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Labor has already crashed the economy. My Duttons family business is building and development. Developing and selling is the business. What is wrong with that? And where is your evidence on insider trading?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...rtfolio-ntwnfb

    You may be right that his family business is in "development" (house flipping is development?), but that simply means he would have a conflict of interest if he were to become PM. Why would he work towards cheaper housing for Aussies when his family business benefits from the opposite? Nothing he's done or said so far shows any level of altruism required to do such a thing.

    The insider trading bit, I'm sure you've read this about him buying big bank shares in "perfect timing". This is someone who's never bought any shares prior to that. If you believe there was nothing dodgy about how that happened, you go ahead and believe what you want.
    To me this guy is as dodgy as they come.

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    This country is going through a classic vicious-virtuous economic cycle. The cunts in power and the ones that aspire to be in power couldn't organise a root in a brothel let alone knowing how to break free from it. What this country (or planet) needs is a big fucken shakeup in the form of a world war, a stock market crash, a global natural catastrophe or another fucken man made pandemic - that's the only way to cold reset and reboot this man made financial system and associated geopolitical tensions. And mind you, these cold resets and reboots have been used many times throughout human history and have proved to work like a charm.
    Note: history as shown that warm reboots are fucken useless, temporary and don't work!

    And this ain't no different from the vicious-virtuous punting cycles that punters experience; a punter will only break free from a vicious punting cycle only after getting a big wake-up call in the form of a serious STD/STI, getting caught by his wife in the middle of the act, physical health problems, getting the arse and losing his high paying job etc.

    In the meantime the labor party and a few parrots here be callling Dutton a Trump wannabe........what a load of fucken cow dribble! if anyone is a Trump wannabe its gotta be fucken Clive Palmer, both old, fat, billionaires that like playing golf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Adapter View Post

    In the meantime the labor party and a few parrots here be callling Dutton a Trump wannabe........what a load of fucken cow dribble! if anyone is a Trump wannabe its gotta be fucken Clive Palmer, both old, fat, billionaires that like playing golf.

    Not a fan of Clive, and never will be. But I do agree with a couple of points from his and her ads:

    There is only one Australian Flag that represents Australia and all Australians. And we don't need to be welcome in to our own country !!

    Well said !

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Crashed the economy how? Inflation down to Reserve Bank target, interest rates going down, unemployment at record lows, wages have risen, What metrics are you referring to?
    50,000 lost their jobs in March, 1.6 million people in mortgage stress, 29,521 businesses gone bust, budget deficit for the next 40 years, 1.2 trillion debt, highest number of homeless in history, record energy costs, declining standard living each year under Albo, and a lot of the employment were public service jobs. Do you want me to keep going? Interest rates going down is to stimulate the economy and the problem with wages rising is that productivity isn't. I am not a fan of Labor or the Libs but this Labor is a disaster plus Albo is weak leader with a glass jaw. He could't even admit when he fell off the stage when it was on film for all to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...rtfolio-ntwnfb

    You may be right that his family business is in "development" (house flipping is development?), but that simply means he would have a conflict of interest if he were to become PM. Why would he work towards cheaper housing for Aussies when his family business benefits from the opposite? Nothing he's done or said so far shows any level of altruism required to do such a thing.

    The insider trading bit, I'm sure you've read this about him buying big bank shares in "perfect timing". This is someone who's never bought any shares prior to that. If you believe there was nothing dodgy about how that happened, you go ahead and believe what you want.
    To me this guy is as dodgy as they come.
    Most politicians have businesses or could have major shareholdings so I don't see it as an issue as it has been disclosed as they are required. Yes, I have read about his shares but you said "I don't get it with this guy. Is he so lost in his own world of profiting from house flipping and insider share trading that he can't even see what the Aussie public is saying to him so loudly and clearly?" I asked you for your proof but you replied it is a rumour. Big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Most politicians have businesses or could have major shareholdings so I don't see it as an issue as it has been disclosed as they are required. Yes, I have read about his shares but you said "I don't get it with this guy. Is he so lost in his own world of profiting from house flipping and insider share trading that he can't even see what the Aussie public is saying to him so loudly and clearly?" I asked you for your proof but you replied it is a rumour. Big difference.
    Rumour? These are facts we're talking about. Even Dutton has admitted to doing the trades. Here, another one just dropped:
    https://www.news.com.au/national/fed...7edd7a5e81edb3

    Look, news outlets cannot outright opinionate that they think someone has done insider trading because they need that person to have been convicted in a court of law before that can do that. That's their obligation as journalists.

    But we as casual observers surely must be able to make our own judgements on something that's so plainly in view.

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