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    Ex-soldier jailed for rape after tricking SW with fake $700 bank payment

    A lowlife:
    - Ex-soldier, Dixon, charged with rape
    - He faked a receipt for a prostitute

    He received the maximum sentence for his crimes which equated to 16 months in prison.

    but this isn't convincing:

    She required 'more than 500 hours of counselling' to overcome the feelings of 'anxiety, stress, (and) fear of future violations of consent' as a result, the court heard.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dier-rape.html

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    How many sex workers steal punter deposits then ghost 🥹

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlippinJimmy View Post
    How many sex workers steal punter deposits then ghost 🥹
    It’s hardly the same thing dude. One involves rape, the other doesn’t.

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    I don't agree that it's rape. It's deception, or a con. If I rent a Ferrari for the today with my last $1,000 and I sleep with 5 women due to them being impressed by my Ferrari and the associated connotations of me being rich, is it rape? I'm not rich, I've tricked them.

    If I sleep with a trans woman (former man) and the person does not disclose that they were born a biological man - is it rape? Assume I connected with them on Tinder and had my search function set to find 'females'.

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    To call this rape is to insult victims of actual violent rapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markmark View Post
    I don't agree that it's rape. It's deception, or a con. If I rent a Ferrari for the today with my last $1,000 and I sleep with 5 women due to them being impressed by my Ferrari and the associated connotations of me being rich, is it rape? I'm not rich, I've tricked them.

    If I sleep with a trans woman (former man) and the person does not disclose that they were born a biological man - is it rape? Assume I connected with them on Tinder and had my search function set to find 'females'.
    It is actually labelled in the laws in Australia as obtaining sex through fraud which falls into the sexual assault category (which is what rape is legally referred to as).

    So yes, women can give conditional consent, as all sex workers do, to perform certain acts for an agreed upon price and if you go outside of that without consent then it is sexual assault (or rape if you prefer).

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    So he didn’t “traditionally” rape her? It’s considered rape because he fraudulently obtained sex. So there was no signs of rape untill she realised there was no payment then it becomes rape.

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    A regular of mine, a sweet girl who always does her best, was scammed in a not too dissimilar manner with some kind of boomerang electronic payment. The customer pressured her for FS but she refused, then negotiated extras which she did. After he left the money vanished from her account. To add insult to injury the shops money and tip money was all "paid" in one hit the same way, so she now "owed" the shop for the booking as well.

    Speaking to her later she was pretty upset, so I'd imagine if FS had been involved that would have only increase her anguish, especially considering her lack of enthusiasm for it.

    Guys, don't be a cunt. If you can't or don't want to pay, don't go. Girls, take cash only unless you have the dudes contact details or he is a long term regular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markmark View Post
    I don't agree that it's rape. It's deception, or a con. If I rent a Ferrari for the today with my last $1,000 and I sleep with 5 women due to them being impressed by my Ferrari and the associated connotations of me being rich, is it rape? I'm not rich, I've tricked them.

    If I sleep with a trans woman (former man) and the person does not disclose that they were born a biological man - is it rape? Assume I connected with them on Tinder and had my search function set to find 'females'.
    Take it up with the Director of Public Prosecutions.

    Not sure why it bothers you so much though.

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    Isn't this fraud rather than rape? I know it's not the same thing but if I go to a nightclub and pay 1000 dollars for bottle service with a fake cheque, this would be classed as fraud.

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    Doesn’t bother me much. Just find it interesting when people parrot or make a claim because something is a law, without questioning it or actually thinking about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerram View Post
    Isn't this fraud rather than rape? I know it's not the same thing but if I go to a nightclub and pay 1000 dollars for bottle service with a fake cheque, this would be classed as fraud.
    That is a very strange comparison and speaks to your view of women and your concept of consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markmark View Post
    Doesn’t bother me much. Just find it interesting when people parrot or make a claim because something is a law, without questioning it or actually thinking about it
    Don't expect the dumbed down drones of today to ever question something or think for themselves.

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    He didn’t physically rape the chick but but under the new consent laws his actions are still considered as a 'technical' (for lack of a better term) rape.

    They had engaged in sexual activity twice before, both times as paid encounters. On the third occasion he didn’t pay, so she reported him. Regardless of whether she had consented to sex c/w rawdog, anal, dfk, daty, rimming etc it was only on the condition that she was compensated for her services. Even if she enjoyed the sex and had 4 squirting orgasms the lack of payment meant her original consent was now deemed invalid (ie new laws) and therefore a rape charge against the cunt. Regardless of whether the rape charge is right, wrong, excessive, ludicrous etc the law is the law and there ain't nothin you can do about it.
    And like everything in life, if you throw enough money at lawyers you can escape any charge and bend any law.

    A cautionary reminder for those:
    - who aren't familiar or aware of the new consent laws
    - green and new to the punting scene
    - blokes originating from countries renown for being cheapskates and scammers
    - Immigrants from 3rd world countries where women are oppressed 3rd class citizens, and treated like meat/shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    That is a very strange comparison and speaks to your view of women and your concept of consent.
    ??? What are you talking about? The problem is he didn't pay, he defrauded her. If his payment wasn't false then there wouldnt have been a problem. How has this anything to do with consent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markmark View Post
    Doesn’t bother me much. Just find it interesting when people parrot or make a claim because something is a law, without questioning it or actually thinking about it
    What claim? Knowing what the law is doesn’t mean you don’t question it or just “parrot”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerram View Post
    ??? What are you talking about? The problem is he didn't pay, he defrauded her. If his payment wasn't false then there wouldnt have been a problem. How has this anything to do with consent?
    Well you’re just proving my point now.
    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markmark View Post
    I don't agree that it's rape. It's deception, or a con. If I rent a Ferrari for the today with my last $1,000 and I sleep with 5 women due to them being impressed by my Ferrari and the associated connotations of me being rich, is it rape? I'm not rich, I've tricked them.

    If I sleep with a trans woman (former man) and the person does not disclose that they were born a biological man - is it rape? Assume I connected with them on Tinder and had my search function set to find 'females'.
    No, it's not the same. This case and the judgement are expressly about sex workers and the fact that the sex worker did not get paid for providing the service. The judge was merely enforcing what was written into law in 2023 or around that time. This law specifically said that, in the event that a sex worker provided the "work" (sexual service) but did not get paid for it, that constitutes rape.

    In your example, there is no law that protects women who are falsely impressed leading to consensual sex on a false pretense. So they can't get you for doing that and call it rape, as dirty as it is. They might be able to get you for something else though.

    It does bring into question how one would conduct a proper relationship with any sex worker. What's going to stop her from leveraging this law on an ex-bf in the event of a breakup? Yet another good reason not to hookup with them, I guess.

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    Have you questioned it?

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    If the guy paid for a 3 way and pulled the same scam it would've been a gang rape I suppose.

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