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    Teen lured into underage sex work in Sydney

    A woman trafficked from Indonesia into underage sex work in Australia has shared her ongoing trauma as two men await sentencing for the “planned and sophisticated” scheme...
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    I believe the ones that are brought in would have experience in the industry, how else would you find them?
    Apparently worked at 3 places here.

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    I reckon it's much more common than you think. Non-sex workers that is. I read once how girls in poor villages are paid to recruit their friends with tales of jobs offshore in relatives' restaurants etc.

    Then once here, they're raped, beaten etc if they defy their "agents". Terrible predicament.

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    I really hope this doesn’t happen in the “legit” / licensed shops but it’s impossible to know. Maybe it’s even impossible for the shops to know as I don’t know how their recruitment works or the checks they run?

    It’s disgusting to do this to any woman but especially with an underage girl. I suspect this could deservingly turn into a decent prison term for these clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fud View Post
    A woman trafficked from Indonesia into underage sex work in Australia has shared her ongoing trauma as two men await sentencing for the “planned and sophisticated” scheme...
    https://archive.md/dF2Xn
    I believe the ones that are brought in would have experience in the industry, how else would you find them?
    Apparently worked at 3 places here.
    WADR, I'd say the opposite more likely, no industry experience, like Punt2Win says. Brought in from the villages with promises of work as maids, cleaners, waitresses... then...

    Even if "experienced", immaterial. They are CONTROLLED. Arrive in a strange city, strange language, passport taken away for "safekeeping". They have debts to pay: that plane ticket isn't free. Accommodation expenses (no choice as to where they live), food expenses (not their choice), and those debts keep adding up and up, payments withheld from their earnings. A ledger is kept, but they can't see it...

    Where do they go for help? Police? Sure, in OZ land, but coming from a different country where LE might not be so honest, can LE be trusted here? Probably chauffeured from home to work to home. Their "contracts" can even be sold when in-country, from one "agent" to the next, with a new work place and accommodation, new environment to disorient. Even if they get out, who will protect the family back home from the debt collectors sent to collect that unpaid debt.

    Imagine you take a job in "Where-the-fuck-istan", arrive on a plane in a strange city, you don't speak the language, and the signs don't have English. Sure you can fight your way out, but what if there's more of them than you? Your passport is taken. No proof of identity. You don't know where you are, your mobile doesn't work, and has also been taken for safekeeping.

    Oz is safe, other places in the world, not so much. An environment where prostitution readily exists, but is TOTALLY ILLEGAL, for both punter and provider, BOTH subject to arrest. As long as it stays "quiet", no problem. But when there are problems, there's an "incident"... all are criminals and will experience the local judicial system. And obviously, you're guilty, because if you weren't there, there wouldn't have been a crime.

    Finally, consider this for the poor young lady. Just consider the attitude of I'd say the majority here. "Great to fuck, but NEVER marry". What do you think the attitude will be "back home"? A compassionate, sympathetic attitude, or "damaged goods", loss of face for her and her family, life OVER?

    Unfortunately, it's NOT just in the movies.

    Trafficking - life without parole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    WADR, I'd say the opposite more likely, no industry experience, like Punt2Win says. Brought in from the villages with promises of work as maids, cleaners, waitresses... then...
    Quote Originally Posted by Punt2Win View Post
    I reckon it's much more common than you think. Non-sex workers that is. I read once how girls in poor villages are paid to recruit their friends with tales of jobs offshore in relatives' restaurants etc.
    I guess you're both right, I just couldn't envisaged in 2026 with social media so entrenched that bright eyed village girls could still be hoodwinked.

    Those with some awareness that sex work is involved are also duped about the conditions (debt bondage, violence, confiscated passports, inability to leave, legal age requirements, etc. once here

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    Quote Originally Posted by fud View Post
    I guess you're both right, I just couldn't envisaged in 2026 with social media so entrenched that bright eyed village girls could still be hoodwinked.

    Those with some awareness that sex work is involved are also duped about the conditions (debt bondage, violence, confiscated passports, inability to leave, legal age requirements, etc. once here
    WADR, like me, you're privileged, living in a Western country with robust social services. Third world, poor, dim future, family in need, and you're offered a dream... "Here's a winning lottery ticket..." You're on a dying Merry-Go-Round, why not take a chance to grab that brass ring... encouraged by (scamming) fellow countrymen... Too easy for us to say, "why didn't you know?"

    Again, no disrespect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fud View Post
    A woman trafficked from Indonesia into underage sex work in Australia has shared her ongoing trauma as two men await sentencing for the “planned and sophisticated” scheme...
    https://archive.md/dF2Xn
    I believe the ones that are brought in would have experience in the industry, how else would you find them?
    Apparently worked at 3 places here.
    From the article:
    "Defence lawyers argued his moral culpability was lowered because the girl was already a sex worker in Indonesia and had signed a contract before departing. However, prosecutors countered that as a child, she was legally unable to consent."

    So, in this case at least, the girl was already a worker albeit an underaged one. It doesn't mean that all girls brought in are from the industry though, but I have a feeling most of them would be.
    Surely it would be easier for the agents to source girls from the industry rather than go out actively looking for non-WGs to trick into doing this work. What benefit does the operator get from doing that? It's not like they can openly advertise "hey look, we've got this girl that was tricked, no industry experience, we charge you 3X premium".

    At the end of the day, I reckon this stuff happens very often, agents recruiting girls from Asian countries. Where do you think we get all these Asian ladies working in Sydney from?

    But every once in a while, we get a case like this. Agent either fails to do all the checks and balances, is tricked into thinking a girl was not underaged, or knowingly brings the underaged girl here. Then it hits the news.

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    Damn what a thread... thats some some dark stuff to then go on debating..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fud View Post
    A woman trafficked from Indonesia into underage sex work in Australia has shared her ongoing trauma as two men await sentencing for the “planned and sophisticated” scheme...
    https://archive.md/dF2Xn
    I believe the ones that are brought in would have experience in the industry, how else would you find them?
    Apparently worked at 3 places here.
    Hmmm whats the point of dropping this bombshell "Apparently worked at 3 places here" if you're not gonna name the shops? It starts becoming a game of chinese whispers and having ppl guess the shop/s which usually dont end well with rumours.

    Quote Originally Posted by BiggieSmalls View Post
    I really hope this doesn’t happen in the “legit” / licensed shops but it’s impossible to know. Maybe it’s even impossible for the shops to know as I don’t know how their recruitment works or the checks they run?

    It’s disgusting to do this to any woman but especially with an underage girl. I suspect this could deservingly turn into a decent prison term for these clowns.
    Agreed -- there is a shop worker/receptionist on here ABs90 who can provides shed some more light on the process and checks if ur keen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack-Jack View Post
    Agreed -- there is a shop worker/receptionist on here ABs90 who can provides shed some more light on the process and checks if ur keen
    I've dated a WL from a popular shop and she's told me the brothel don't do visa checks. The industry is seedy and rotten with no checks and no enforcement from the immigration bureaucracy. But on a side note, this entire country in every key facet is rotten anyway.

    Which is EXACTLY why you should be voting for Pauline Hanson and One Nation as Labor has allowed immigration to be far too easy and out of control. It's clear that now is the time to no longer pick from the traditional 2 parties. We need a paradigm shift in our country. Unfortunately election date is still 2 years away.

    Because right now as it stands it's hilariously gobsmacking easy to just get a tourist visa to come to Australia THEN switch to a student visa and work in the brothel. And if the student visa application fails you can then switch to a pending protection visa which the department then grants a temporary stay visa called a bridging visa a/b/c, and this is where the Australian bureaucracy is hilariously useless, enabling an extreme ease for any WL to game the system, the the protection visa takes many many years to finalise. Aka reject, so they use those many many years available to look for someone to give them PR. Its hilariously foolproof. And you really only have the bureaucracy to blame here. Don't hate the player.

    The bureaucracy has become effectively useless and, i too have personally noticed, growing increasingly overwhelmed. Its buckling under its own weight. Everything is taking longer than it used to be.

    And it's not a difficult problem to solve. It starts with parliament and we need a government with a significantly stronger anti-immigration stance to counter balance the damage done by letting in migrants here. We all had a glimpse of what Australia could be during covid where immigration came to a halt and life actually became easier for the average Australian.

    So you have WLs or handlers who games the system and brothels complicit by not doing the checks that a legal business should and the bureaucracy is too overwhelmed to do anything about it because it can only allocate its resources only for worst cases e.g. this news article. But make no mistake, the industry complicit.

    It's honestly an illegal network capitalising on NSW being completely legal with sex work. For example, it's literally impossible to just bring those Japanese WLs straight to Australia on a foreign workers visa. You would have to arrange them to say they're working in a job that allows them to be granted the worker visa AND THEN once they come here they go straight into sex work instead. And with said, the customer base is also complicit through demand and hence you have news articles like these lol.

    The only reason the government legalised brothels is money because they pay over a million a year to council to maintain a permit. That's all our government cares about. So yeah, smell the roses.

    When you see WLs with boyfriends or a husband or that guy who drives them to work, it all started as a PR visa arrangement. In saying so, the WL won't just pick anyone to give them PR, to them the relationship has to be capable of being or at the very least come across as genuine otherwise they risk not being granted PR but if they feel they're not going to get PR they can call the police and file a domestic violence complaint against the sponsor and boom she gets PR through family violence provisions.

    Ever since i went back to Chinese workers it's truly insane how often the topic gets brought up to me. Think about it, Australia is the easiest country to get rich for anyone who works hard enough. In China, you wouldn't be able to save anything. But again this only benefits the immigrant because they send the money back to their home countries. It's not like you can do the same thing as an Australian resident. They make $5k a week untaxed.

    So yeah, the current system freaking loves immigrants

    "The Nixon review examined the "almost industrial-scale" exploitation of vulnerable temporary migrants and international students amid a wider review of Australia's immigration policy.

    Former Victoria Police commissioner Christine Nixon found "abuses of sexual exploitation, human trafficking and other organised crime" due to loopholes in Australia's immigration system."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-04/immigration-visa-compliance-crackdown/102932864

    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/reports-and-publications/reviews-and-inquiries/departmental-reviews/rapid-review-exploitation-visa-system

    Nothing will change. This crackdown is just to appease the public to keep the system just barely functioning.

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    Linq please show me where the N.S.W brothel licence cost over a million every year to maintain a permit and also show me where it says Japanese citizens need to prove where they are going to go for work for their working holiday visa to be approved. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abs90 View Post
    Linq please show me where the N.S.W brothel licence cost over a million every year to maintain a permit and also show me where it says Japanese citizens need to prove where they are going to go for work for their working holiday visa to be approved. Thank you
    On what authority?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linq View Post
    I've dated a WL from a popular shop and she's told me the brothel don't do visa checks. The industry is seedy and rotten with no checks and no enforcement from the immigration bureaucracy. But on a side note, this entire country in every key facet is rotten anyway.

    Which is EXACTLY why you should be voting for Pauline Hanson and One Nation as Labor has allowed immigration to be far too easy and out of control. It's clear that now is the time to no longer pick from the traditional 2 parties. We need a paradigm shift in our country. Unfortunately election date is still 2 years away.

    Because right now as it stands it's hilariously gobsmacking easy to just get a tourist visa to come to Australia THEN switch to a student visa and work in the brothel. And if the student visa application fails you can then switch to a pending protection visa which the department then grants a temporary stay visa called a bridging visa a/b/c, and this is where the Australian bureaucracy is hilariously useless, enabling an extreme ease for any WL to game the system, the the protection visa takes many many years to finalise. Aka reject, so they use those many many years available to look for someone to give them PR. Its hilariously foolproof. And you really only have the bureaucracy to blame here. Don't hate the player.

    The bureaucracy has become effectively useless and, i too have personally noticed, growing increasingly overwhelmed. Its buckling under its own weight. Everything is taking longer than it used to be.

    And it's not a difficult problem to solve. It starts with parliament and we need a government with a significantly stronger anti-immigration stance to counter balance the damage done by letting in migrants here. We all had a glimpse of what Australia could be during covid where immigration came to a halt and life actually became easier for the average Australian.

    So you have WLs or handlers who games the system and brothels complicit by not doing the checks that a legal business should and the bureaucracy is too overwhelmed to do anything about it because it can only allocate its resources only for worst cases e.g. this news article. But make no mistake, the industry complicit.

    It's honestly an illegal network capitalising on NSW being completely legal with sex work. For example, it's literally impossible to just bring those Japanese WLs straight to Australia on a foreign workers visa. You would have to arrange them to say they're working in a job that allows them to be granted the worker visa AND THEN once they come here they go straight into sex work instead. And with said, the customer base is also complicit through demand and hence you have news articles like these lol.

    The only reason the government legalised brothels is money because they pay over a million a year to council to maintain a permit. That's all our government cares about. So yeah, smell the roses.

    When you see WLs with boyfriends or a husband or that guy who drives them to work, it all started as a PR visa arrangement. In saying so, the WL won't just pick anyone to give them PR, to them the relationship has to be capable of being or at the very least come across as genuine otherwise they risk not being granted PR but if they feel they're not going to get PR they can call the police and file a domestic violence complaint against the sponsor and boom she gets PR through family violence provisions.

    Ever since i went back to Chinese workers it's truly insane how often the topic gets brought up to me. Think about it, Australia is the easiest country to get rich for anyone who works hard enough. In China, you wouldn't be able to save anything. But again this only benefits the immigrant because they send the money back to their home countries. It's not like you can do the same thing as an Australian resident. They make $5k a week untaxed.

    So yeah, the current system freaking loves immigrants

    "The Nixon review examined the "almost industrial-scale" exploitation of vulnerable temporary migrants and international students amid a wider review of Australia's immigration policy.

    Former Victoria Police commissioner Christine Nixon found "abuses of sexual exploitation, human trafficking and other organised crime" due to loopholes in Australia's immigration system."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-...down/102932864

    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/repor...on-visa-system

    Nothing will change. This crackdown is just to appease the public to keep the system just barely functioning.
    So much misinformation and bullshit in this post lol. show me where the N.S.W brothel licence cost over a million every year to maintain a permit and also show me where it says Japanese citizens need to prove where they are going to go for work for their working holiday visa to be approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linq View Post
    I've dated a WL from a popular shop and she's told me the brothel don't do visa checks. The industry is seedy and rotten with no checks and no enforcement from the immigration bureaucracy. But on a side note, this entire country in every key facet is rotten anyway.

    Which is EXACTLY why you should be voting for Pauline Hanson and One Nation as Labor has allowed immigration to be far too easy and out of control. It's clear that now is the time to no longer pick from the traditional 2 parties. We need a paradigm shift in our country. Unfortunately election date is still 2 years away.

    Because right now as it stands it's hilariously gobsmacking easy to just get a tourist visa to come to Australia THEN switch to a student visa and work in the brothel. And if the student visa application fails you can then switch to a pending protection visa which the department then grants a temporary stay visa called a bridging visa a/b/c, and this is where the Australian bureaucracy is hilariously useless, enabling an extreme ease for any WL to game the system, the the protection visa takes many many years to finalise. Aka reject, so they use those many many years available to look for someone to give them PR. Its hilariously foolproof. And you really only have the bureaucracy to blame here. Don't hate the player.

    The bureaucracy has become effectively useless and, i too have personally noticed, growing increasingly overwhelmed. Its buckling under its own weight. Everything is taking longer than it used to be.

    And it's not a difficult problem to solve. It starts with parliament and we need a government with a significantly stronger anti-immigration stance to counter balance the damage done by letting in migrants here. We all had a glimpse of what Australia could be during covid where immigration came to a halt and life actually became easier for the average Australian.

    So you have WLs or handlers who games the system and brothels complicit by not doing the checks that a legal business should and the bureaucracy is too overwhelmed to do anything about it because it can only allocate its resources only for worst cases e.g. this news article. But make no mistake, the industry complicit.

    It's honestly an illegal network capitalising on NSW being completely legal with sex work. For example, it's literally impossible to just bring those Japanese WLs straight to Australia on a foreign workers visa. You would have to arrange them to say they're working in a job that allows them to be granted the worker visa AND THEN once they come here they go straight into sex work instead. And with said, the customer base is also complicit through demand and hence you have news articles like these lol.

    The only reason the government legalised brothels is money because they pay over a million a year to council to maintain a permit. That's all our government cares about. So yeah, smell the roses.

    When you see WLs with boyfriends or a husband or that guy who drives them to work, it all started as a PR visa arrangement. In saying so, the WL won't just pick anyone to give them PR, to them the relationship has to be capable of being or at the very least come across as genuine otherwise they risk not being granted PR but if they feel they're not going to get PR they can call the police and file a domestic violence complaint against the sponsor and boom she gets PR through family violence provisions.

    Ever since i went back to Chinese workers it's truly insane how often the topic gets brought up to me. Think about it, Australia is the easiest country to get rich for anyone who works hard enough. In China, you wouldn't be able to save anything. But again this only benefits the immigrant because they send the money back to their home countries. It's not like you can do the same thing as an Australian resident. They make $5k a week untaxed.

    So yeah, the current system freaking loves immigrants

    "The Nixon review examined the "almost industrial-scale" exploitation of vulnerable temporary migrants and international students amid a wider review of Australia's immigration policy.

    Former Victoria Police commissioner Christine Nixon found "abuses of sexual exploitation, human trafficking and other organised crime" due to loopholes in Australia's immigration system."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-...down/102932864

    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/repor...on-visa-system

    Nothing will change. This crackdown is just to appease the public to keep the system just barely functioning.
    Do you know what you're actually voting for? Does she have any "policies" that are more than a slogan?

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    Don’t give him oxygen.

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    Linq spouting nonsense about something he knows nothing about but pretends he's an expert on? Colour me shocked.

    The 'dating' a WL explains why he's suddenly gone on a crusade to stop 'illegal immigrants'.
    Must have stalked some poor WL before she finally had him banned or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredGoon View Post
    Do you know what you're actually voting for? Does she have any "policies" that are more than a slogan?
    Basically less migration plus more assimilation, both of which are just as important.

    With regards to migration, stricter migration will also disincentivise migration related exploitation as per the Nixon Review.

    With Gina Rhinehart's backing, the country's wealthiest person and with the current dissatisfaction with our traditional 2 political parties, Pauline Hanson's One Party will finally have a real shot of winning our next election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linq View Post
    Basically less immigration plus more assimilation. Stricter immigration will also disincentivise migration related exploitation as per the Nixon Review. With Gina Rhinehart's backing, the country's wealthiest person, and with the current dissatisfaction with our traditional 2 political parties Pauline Hanson's One Party will finally have a real shot of winning our next election
    Champ, stop watching sky news. Oh and who was the WL you “ dated” ? Just because you saw a WL a few times that doesn’t make her your girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costy View Post
    Champ, stop watching sky news. Oh and who was the WL you “ dated” ? Just because you saw a WL a few times that doesn’t make her your girlfriend.
    I've held such beliefs before any of this gained traction. I'm a strong proponent of assimilation, of which mass migration is a problem for it.

    Pauline Hanson aims for monocultural, not multicultural, yet multiracial Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_luv_doggie. View Post
    Don’t give him oxygen.
    Exactly the point. Hunker down and let it pass. Very easy to do.

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