Quote Originally Posted by wilisno View Post
You've got it all wrong here, That's exactly what I said, we shouldn't think " What do I get in return " ! The Social Security system is there to help those who need it, we all contribute our share in terms of tax to make it work, and we shouldn't wish we can have a piece of the cake back. Hence we shouldn't envy those who receive assistance !



Only well to do people can have children ???

What if one only became poor after having children ? And a family in need doesn't have to have many children, a one child family still need to be fed ! And don't forget, Australia is an aging country, we need young people to keep paying tax when we get old !

As I said in the above post, all systems are subject to abuse, we can only device a way to deal with those abusers, but we can't abandon the fundamental principles of the social structure !

I do believe only well-to do ppl can have children. If you manage to do moderately ok in this life and manage to buy yourself 2 houses; if you got 1 child, that one child inherits your 2 properties. If he does as well as you, then by retirement he has 4 properties, means his standard of living has increased and do not need govt assistance.
Now the problem with too many children, you need to divide your resources with them and when they grow up, they need the money to raise their own family and sometimes you even need to help them buy their properties.
If the one child family is self-sufficient, then there is no need for the system to support them