Market Research: is there a market for ladyboy in a RnT shop ??

[CunningLinguist]

Poets are renowned for their sexual prowess and, how shall I say this, "spirit of adventure."
Byron, Shelley, Coleridge, CrazyMonkey, SirLaughsAlot, all have a certain interest in such matters.

Yeah baby......

What a self-aggrandising twat you are. No wonder you have been banned 23 times ...

[CunningLinguist]

I was just calling a fact. I feel a visceral repulsion towards consuming male dna. It is not something I'm responsible for, just as those who like to consume it aren't responsible for that either. I wasn't criticising anyone.

I agree, if I even suspect a ladyboy works in a shop I won't be visiting.
The sex industry is not exactly known for it's high standards and the pressure to make profits sometimes at any "cost" is ever present, so if a ladyboy is free then it wouldn't suprise me if a greedy mamasan tries to trick an unsuspecting punter.

[SirLaughsAlot]

What a self-agrandising twat you are. No wonder you have been banned 23 times ...

There are two "G" in aggrandising, and neither Proximo or DiamondEyes were my creations, so your numbers in the table are wrong, just like your spelling.
Your table actually says 24, but it should really say 22. I'm a stickler for accuracy CL, and I don't want anyone else getting credited with my moves.

[AHLUNGOR]

I have some fairly reliable mail that some LBs are already working in legit Thai massage places all over Sydney at the moment !

And mainly due to the restrictions imposed by the shop that no part II is allowed so neither provided not received - and as a result, many unsuspecting punters may have already been served part I by LBs and not aware of !

Funny thing was, these LBs are always being pressured to provide extras like HJ or nude HJ and more - it makes me wonder if the punters actually become aware of the real status, will they be still trying to get past the second base !

As the survey is producing some initial results which is quite positive that there will be a market for it.

So this is how I envisage it will work:


1. Say shop A is the place where a LB will be employed , the owner will select the person carefully to ensure she is attractive and has a nice body, good massage skills etc , assuming part II is good.

2. The LB will be rostered on a set day, her name and work day will be advertised here in this and the other forum, so any interested party can plan and make advance booking .

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

4. Customers who make booking to see the LB of course will have full knowledge of the situation and no further advice by the shop is necessary !

What do you guys think, this can work ??

Please give your opinion ??

[AHLUNGOR]

One more question , for all those ney sayers, do you have the same approach towards a LB who still has the dick vs a trans who already has the operation (post OP) and No more dick !!

You feel the same? or you are more acceptable to be touched and jerk off by someone who doesn't have a dick no more ??

Any different ?

Or in your own mind, will you consider a post OP person is already a woman ??

[Cunt Destroyer]

I noticed you're one of those guys that calls a tranvestite 'she'. I wonder, is this just a nod to political correctness or do really consider them as such?

Anyway, Australia as a society has become more tolerant of homosexuals. I understand that. There is this widespread view that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I agree with this.

But cross-dressing transvestites are a different story altogether. Bringing that fucked up shit into a hetero brothel, where punters have their cocks out and bodily fluids are being exchanged, is just wrong on so many levels!

Sure, theres a few old queers who will jump on the chance for a sneaky Hj from a young boy on the down low, but the response by 99% of customers will be negative.

Wait till words gets out that shop XYZ is provding gay sex services. Watch that shops reputation be tattered. Watch it get blacklisted. Watch the council close that shit hole down!!

I have some fairly reliable mail that some LBs are already working in legit Thai massage places all over Sydney at the moment !

And mainly due to the restrictions imposed by the shop that no part II is allowed so neither provided not received - and as a result, many unsuspecting punters may have already been served part I by LBs and not aware of !

Funny thing was, these LBs are always being pressured to provide extras like HJ or nude HJ and more - it makes me wonder if the punters actually become aware of the real status, will they be still trying to get past the second base !

As the survey is producing some initial results which is quite positive that there will be a market for it.

So this is how I envisage it will work:


1. Say shop A is the place where a LB will be employed , the owner will select the person carefully to ensure she is attractive and has a nice body, good massage skills etc , assuming part II is good.

2. The LB will be rostered on a set day, her name and work day will be advertised here in this and the other forum, so any interested party can plan and make advance booking .

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

4. Customers who make booking to see the LB of course will have full knowledge of the situation and no further advice by the shop is necessary !

What do you guys think, this can work ??

Please give your opinion ??

[AHLUNGOR]

I noticed you're one of those guys that calls a tranvestite 'she'. I wonder, is this just a nod to political correctness or do really consider them as such?

Anyway, Australia as a society has become more tolerant of homosexuals. I understand that. There is this widespread view that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I agree with this.

But cross-dressing transvestites are a different story altogether. Bringing that fucked up shit into a hetero brothel, where punters have their cocks out and bodily fluids are being exchanged, is just wrong on so many levels!

Sure, theres a few old queers who will jump on the chance for a sneaky Hj from a young boy on the down low, but the response by 99% of customers will be negative.

Wait till words gets out that shop XYZ is provding gay sex services. Watch that shops reputation be tattered. Watch it get blacklisted. Watch the council close that shit hole down!!

Another 8 inches again !!

[Massageguy]

Hi Isis,
It is so lovely to sit back and take in your words of wisdom.
You are always happy to share your insight from another perspective with us, and for that , I'm sure we are all grateful.
Glad to hear you are well. Keep Sharing .

P.S. I miss our quiet drinks, long chats and laughter !!!!
Drop me a PM sometime

[AHLUNGOR]

This photo is dedicated to the lovely sister Isis !!

[Sextus]

All this talk about inadvertant sexual interaction with male dna in my final post for the night must have prompted my dream last night!

I was with Kylie Minogue, who is the very definition of the hottest of real femininity, and she had just flown me in her light plane from Miller's Point to the Balmain Peninsula. (Don't ask me how that was practical, it was just a friggin' dream!)

To edit out some of the subsequent detail (in which we visited the fish markets) we ended up at a hotel for the night with an anonymous male acquaintance of mine.

Kylie slept between us.

The night must have passed, my dream edited that part out, but next it was first thing in the morning and my acquaintance had got up to go to the bathroom, which woke me up. (Ha! asleep, I had been dreaming I was asleep.)

A nude Kylie, next to me, woke up too.

I pulled down the sheet to look at her, and her bare pussy was completely splashed and dripping with come!

That was my dream filling in the action of the previous night - ha ha! Very considerate!

"You've still got the come all over you Kylie" I commented.

She giggled and said "Mmm...yes."

The sight of her cum dripping bare pussy and her sleepy, kittenish reaction to it suddenly made me feel really hot.

I launched myself at her mouth and began devouring it. The same things must have made her feel hot too because I felt her very fullish and perky tits (for her petite size) swell with her passion against my chest and her nipples jabbed at me with a new pointiness.

Man, I was super aroused, and got between her legs, which she spread in completely welcoming compliance, and I slid it in to her bareback right to the hilt.

Ha ha! The very presence and sight of the come on Kylie's come splashed bare pussy - not all of which was mine - was a big part of the heat of it all.

Now that was my dream, and it worked in that, big time, but in real life I feel I still may harbour some reservations. Or maybe it just needed the heat of the uber-feminine Kylie Minogue to completely feminise the come.

Probably it was that. There is something to that, as I have snowballed in the past.

Anyway, make of it what you will. At least it feels like I've f**ked Kylie - and you haven't!

[Isis]

Thanks my dear friends massageguy and Ahlungor. Yes, I'm sure my views don't sit well with everybody and that's okay..it's just such an interesting topic of discussion. Maybe someone should start a thread along the lines of "when 'straight' guys come into a massage or full service shop asking the WL if she could slip a couple of fingers in their a** or even penetration with other objects for sexual gratification does that make them gay????"(apologies as now I'm getting off the beaten track). Anyhoooo I like reading the differing opinions as it certainly says a lot about someone. As does the forum name "cunt destroyer". I mean really..... that's class!! - NOT!

[AHLUNGOR]

Anyway, make of it what you will. At least it feels like I've f**ked Kylie - and you haven't!

Haha, Kylie, I do like her music and her dance move, but when it cums to sexual gratifications, give me the younger sister with the bigger enhanced tits - Danni anytime !!

Oh, how about Danni's fellow judges: the ex Spice girl with the perfect sun tan, another MILF, or is it Mel !! gee, love to fuck those big brown tits !!

[Sextus]

asking the WL if she could slip a couple of fingers in their a** or even penetration with other objects for sexual gratification does that make them gay????

Aah no dear Isis, that is mere physiology. The presence of bundles of sexually sensitive nerves in that area, whether you are male or female.

True, some guys prefer to deny themselves this, but that is a matter of their headspace illogically denying their physiology. That is a Darwinian fact completely indifferent to their headspace.

[Isis]

Fair point my friend. I guess it confirms I did go off the beaten track, and didn't think my statement through in regards to the context but I guess on the whole subject I was thinking there's such a variety of differing sexual needs for a person, and what some people think is 'ok' and a turn on may be completely vulgar, 'gay' etc etc to another. That doesn't mean those services shouldn't be made available in an establishment. If i had a shop I certainly wouldn't rule out the fact it cld be beneficial to cater for a variety of needs to that individual, discreetly and respectfully.

[AHLUNGOR]

I wonder what will you do when you walk into a Thai massage shop and was shown this line up ??

[AHLUNGOR]

These lots may not be all rated 10 out of 10 in looks but I will imagine some of them could turn a few heads!

[AHLUNGOR]

There are a lot more positive comments from members in the other forums, may be due to the fact a poll is being taken there, but I think it will be worthwhile seeing other perspectives on the matter !!

My answer would be Yes. It will need to be transparent about their status and availability.

Regardless of the voting on this forum, there's definitely a place for transsexual workers... just look at the listings on sites such as backpage. For whatever reason, the activity is increasing exponentially and those reasons could perhaps be explored on another thread.

There are traditional brothels already advertising - eg. at Cromer in Sydney's north. There are other shops where LBs work at different times. But possibly due to a vague fear of being judged by others who appear opposed to such fun, reviews appear less frequently. There are a number of punters here who indulge... self included... who derive significant enjoyment from the occasional 'walk on the wild side'. Whether that would extend to massage only remains to be seen. The self-declared "players" would probably not want to stop at RnT!

From my own perspective, a good massage and hand relief is enjoyable regardless of the gender of the service provider. For example, a few days ago I had a fantastic massage and surprise perfect tug from a masseur (as distinct from a masseuse, for the spelling-challenged) at a relatively new shop. Quite unexpected but I just went with the flow... most enjoyable.

Suspend judgement, ye doubters... :lol:

Yes totally agree different strokes for different blokes, it can certainly scratch the itch for those who want it scratched and as someone who has ventured down the other paths as others on this and other forums do I think it will definitely float, as it has already floated my boat, tell me where and when so I can sample the wares.

Happy punting all

Lungor,

I think you have your answer, it seems a yes, in which case please make your recommendations to your friend, and then let us know which shop is offering this extra service.

Cheers

Chalk

[AHLUNGOR]

Fair point my friend. I guess it confirms I did go off the beaten track, and didn't think my statement through in regards to the context but I guess on the whole subject I was thinking there's such a variety of differing sexual needs for a person, and what some people think is 'ok' and a turn on may be completely vulgar, 'gay' etc etc to another. That doesn't mean those services shouldn't be made available in an establishment. If i had a shop I certainly wouldn't rule out the fact it cld be beneficial to cater for a variety of needs to that individual, discreetly and respectfully.

Hi sister, you may or may not have read the OP, I did declare right from the start that I am a no voter to the topic !

Was only doing a favour for my friend to see some feedback in the market to know what can she expect when she does employ a LB or a trans .

While I am not interested myself, I am at peace with any one who cares to try ! It is not necessarily a gay thing, it's just something different or curious to some people I guess !!

Some people earlier was saying let him know which shop it is and he will stay away. Something he didn't know though it's that a lot of wild things that happened behind closed doors! RnT shops or FS shops are alike .

While we should always respect everyone privacy and not pass judgement . Sex and sexual gratifications is a basic human needs and human rights, as long as they are performed or conducted between consenting adults, It is really none of everyone else business.

My two cents

Cheers

[asiafever]

I think there is a lot of unnecessary machismo nonsense about this. If it's not for you, say so, and that's fine, but all this talk of "disgusting, perverted, fucked up" etc etc is judgemental bullshit frankly. If it's not your cup of tea, all good, but for some people (I'm not one, never tried, but seeing as we only live once I may be coerced to try a rnt from a pre op or post op, depending on how hot she was, but at the same time when faced with it I may decide it's not for me also) it is, and it seems like quite a few judging by those who ahlungor said pm'd him and what Isis said, as well as just how many there are in places like Singapore, Bangkok etc.

So how about we refrain from the childish name calling, yeah?
You do realise that to a percentage of the population, we here are already deviant perverts? So why would we be vociferous in our own defence, yet those that may have a little fetish, and open to the idea of seeing what it is like, oh man THEY are the animals! Sounds hypocritical to me.


http://www.teddyaward.tv/pix_upload/...s/Harisu-1.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TM91bEb-5V...640/Harisu.jpg

This is Harisu, she was born a male. If she were peeling down your jocks and asked if you wanted a hj, how many of you would say no? Be honest? Some of you may well have already had a hj from a LB and not even know, it does not make you gay. And so what if you are bi? IS that such an awful thing?

And while some of you say homosexuality repulses you, you do realise lesbians are homosexuals right? By watching lesbian porn you are in to gay porn, yeah? I am not in to watching guys on guys, I'll be the first to admit, but I'll not judge those that are. I know guys who think looking at porn where you can see another mans cock is gay. Think about it, you are watching another mans penis and watching him cum and it makes you cum. EH GADS! And then if you're watching a gangbang, there's only one female and multiple guys! Multiple cocks! Hmmmm. In a place such as this, each to their own, as long as nobody is hurt and no (serious) laws are broken...

Let's quit some of the archaic stereotyping. I didn't see anywhere that said by getting a rnt from said ladyboy suddenly you would be giving them a bbbj. And this talk of dirty old poof weirdos, I couldn't agree more with what Isis said, another stereotype based in our own fears and conditioning, let's be honest, where are you more likely to find more dirty old poof weirdos, in a city rnt venue, or at a Catholic Bishops convention? Think about it...

That's my rant done and dusted...

[Cunt Destroyer]

You self-important, self-righteous twat.
You obviously think you are the centre of the moral universe.

So what if some people find transvestite sex workers 'disgusting' or 'perveted'? Stop tryin to impose your 1990s politically correct agenda on others. Fuck you