Star Cherry Bad experience

Thank whatever gods there are for that!

Interesting thread... I have actually read most of it

What shop owners and MLs DON'T understand or appreciate is that they are providing a $200-300 per hour service and yet they are either untrained or don't care about it

In most cases, MLs just move onto the next shop and scam the next punter who is probably trying to play nice and shop owner takes in another reject/move on from other shops and slaps onto their customers, happy punting lads

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Originally Posted by ococpunt

Interesting thread... I have actually read most of it

What shop owners and MLs DON'T understand or appreciate is that they are providing a $200-300 per hour service and yet they are either untrained or don't care about it

In most cases, MLs just move onto the next shop and scam the next punter who is probably trying to play nice and shop owner takes in another reject/move on from other shops and slaps onto their customers, happy punting lads

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Which is why reviews, preferrably short and sharp (personal bias here), are a useful tool by which to identify the good, the okay, the so so, the poor etc. If more reviews were posted then it would limit the ability of poor performers to play that game. By not posting reviews, punters are partly to blame for this state of affairs.

If a girl with absolutely no experience or training is let loose in what frankly is close to a brothel, god help her.

It is the managers responsibility to make sure she does not even see a customer until she understands what is expected of her. Including extras.
The best shops have male trainers whose sole role is to guide a new girl in all relevant matters. Some managers will watch these sessions to steer and guide the girl.

If this girl is not suitable to this shop, she should be routed by a very experienced operator to a shop more suiting her style. Or not let loose until she is ready.

If shes still on the roster next week, i will pop in and do what should have been done before she started.
I know enough Japanese to actually help.

The best shops in Brisbane know exactly what each girls range of options is, including for those special customers, and their price points. Its in everyones interests that customers and mls are suitable.

If guys like to fly by the seat of their pants, then they know what happens.
Those fussy fuckers who must have specific services, should engage with shop management.
Good shops will engage back, but some guys need to know their lane and not ask 50 questions or have back and forths for more than 2 messages.

This was both amusing and enlightening!

I dunno if anyone else had the thought, but someone tipped off Poppy to this thread...esp given her post count.

...I wonder who that was?

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Originally Posted by Bed Wrecker

If shes still on the roster next week, i will pop in and do what should have been done before she started. .

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While you’re in a training frame of mind, can you swing past Acqua and provide some training to the second tier of girls here? Sunny & Fairy’s abilities have certainly not rubbed off on the new girls rotating through there for the last 6-12mths. Maybe volunteer for a recruitment drive

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Originally Posted by Staedtler

While you’re in a training frame of mind, can you swing past Acqua and provide some training to the second tier of girls here? Sunny & Fairy’s abilities have certainly not rubbed off on the new girls rotating through there for the last 6-12mths. Maybe volunteer for a recruitment drive

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To be fair. Do you know of a shop in Bris where all the girls are of the Fairy and Sunny standard? If so, please let me know.

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Originally Posted by Poppys

I’m truly sorry that we were unable to match you with someone who suited you.
The shop was busy at the time — 3 out of 4 girls were already with clients — so for bookings made under “anyone,” the available girl is assigned.

She is new, and her massage skills and English may still be a bit awkward, but she is hardworking and cute, and we’ve already received good feedback from other customers about her.

I sent you a text stating that I would re-train her in massage techniques, and while I cannot provide training on anything related to extras,I will take your feedback seriously and pass your concerns on to her in order to improve the situation.

However, you claimed that “no resolution was offered” and that there was “only accusation” based on what I wrote.

Wouldn’t you consider my text message a resolution?
It seems that you focused only on the negative parts of my message and completely overlooked the important points.

I’m truly disappointed.
When I gave you a massage the first time, you told me you wanted to support my business.
I considered you a valued customer.

I know you tried booking a few times afterword, but shop was busy you could not get spot. But since then, you never visited again — and now, after finally returning once, just because one girl didn’t suit your preferences, you went out of your way to leave feed back not only on Aust99, but also a 1-star rating on Google Reviews?

It seems that you have already left a 1-star review on at least four massage shops on Google.

Do you really think that was a mature response?
We are all human — we make mistakes.
Life could be a little easier if you chose to be more understanding, rather than being unnecessarily harsh toward massage shops.

Actually, your feedback email ended up in my spam folder (probably because your email address looked like a random or autogenerated one).
For that, I owe you an apology.

Hopefully , you can find someone who truly satisfies you, Good luck

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On a lighter note , what's your handicap sitting at now Poppy???

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Originally Posted by FredWard63

To be fair. Do you know of a shop in Bris where all the girls are of the Fairy and Sunny standard? If so, please let me know.

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No, unfortunately, I don’t know of any shops that have a roster full of Sunny’s and Fairy’s standard… but I wasn’t implying on bringing their tier 2 girls up to Sunny and Fairy standard, but simply bring them up to an acceptable standard. A standard that isn’t a terrible massage followed by equally terrible service by a girl that can’t even maintain some acceptable level of grooming (notably, a 10 day growth on the cooch that felt like 20 grit sandpaper rubbing across your skin). All whilst expecting the same payment as a lady that provides very good service. Perhaps management everywhere should implement apprentice rates… until the girl provides a good service they get less pay, just like everyone else in the world.

To be fair, there is one or two other girls at Acqua that are acceptable. But a large majority of Acqua’s new girls over the last several months have been average at best and quite a few have been awful. If it was just one or two over a period of time, you would let it go and not make comment - as is typical across the board, you get below average at all shops. But it seems to be very poor recruiting and training (or lack of) from management’s behalf over a period of time… which seems suitable for this thread.

This VFlowers guy is the male equivalent of a Karen. What a massive pain in the arse, an insufferable bore.

I'm not sure why I'm bother entering this fray.
I'm a customer to now 4 shops. Along the way I've dropped some previous regular shops because standards dropped, MLs high turn over, ML very low turn over, shops living off past reputations, and yes bad interactions with MLs. I usually give them a few chances. I tell the owner/manager, and they normally apologise and try setting up a "better" girl. I've been trained on which I enjoyed, and I've had "superstars" that were duds or overpriced leaving me disappointed. I've mentioned some in the past on the forum as well as in PM'S.
I think I am fussy. I pay good money and expect a certain level of service. That does not mean fs or bbbj every single time. Nor do I expect the ML to give me an intimate PS or GF experience every time.
I do expect the girl to look a certain way based on photo, description or recommendation. If the owner says she is inexperienced, then I lower my expectations but also not pay 5 pines.
Some punters prefer to just duck around, just another fussy to pump, other punters want to feel some connectivity. Some want different compared to home others want to feel like a stud. We all have different reasons.
Poppy as an ML, has been around for a long time to know this, including customers who just want to talk. Poppy as a shop owner is still new, and I'm sure what she envisioned and what some of her loyal punters and defenders say has made her defend her "baby" the way she has. Considering the turnover of MLs in her shop, training beyond massage is essential. If Poppy really wants to be the best around, an extras menu for each girl would go a long way, as well as skill or experience level. If that is too hard go the gold, diamond packages like in some brothels.
As much as I like Poppy the ML, Poppy the owner needs to relax. Defending her shop and MLs on here hasn't reflected well either. Take the good with the bad. Overall most punters have been very positive to Star and most of the girls. No shop has a roster full of diamonds. BTW well said FredWard63
Personally from what i know, VFlowers has been around for a while. I've had nothing but pleasant intersections with him over PM and on this forum, even if we don't always agree on things. He has every right to express himself like blutea before him and others. It's not malicious and he is and has a right. He has previously defended MLs rights on here. Now he is just defending the punter's rights.
And finally, Cherry, I love that name. Reminds me of Cherry/Vanilla. I'm sure the Star Cherry will either get better, change shops, retire, but if you stay on, please change your name, maybe Lemon.

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Originally Posted by iamking

If the owner says she is inexperienced, then I lower my expectations but also not pay 5 pines.

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This would be the best way for operators to manage their new staff - and ideally, let people know at the time of booking, not once you’ve driven 30min and handed over the shop fee. The Punter can then either adjust their expectations prior to the session, choose someone else or go elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by iamking

Personally from what i know, VFlowers has been around for a while. I've had nothing but pleasant intersections with him over PM and on this forum, even if we don't always agree on things. He has every right to express himself like blutea before him and others. It's not malicious and he is and has a right. He has previously defended MLs rights on here. Now he is just defending the punter's rights.
And finally, Cherry, I love that name. Reminds me of Cherry/Vanilla. I'm sure the Star Cherry will either get better, change shops, retire, but if you stay on, please change your name, maybe Lemon.

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Thanks, King!
I didn't want to post here anymore, but now I feel I have to.

My experience was NOT with Cherry. I have since opened a new review thread for the girl I saw.
I only used this thread, because it was here that Poppy attacked another user for not contacting her first after he had a similar experience at her shop. Well, I did and you've all read the rest.

Users, who don't like me or my posts have various very simple options: Don't read and scroll past them. Or, even better, put me on your ignore list, that's what it's there for. Click on my name next to one of my posts, click or tap 'view profile', and then under my avatar picture, click the second option 'Add to Ignore List'. And you will never see any of my posts again.

Have a great weekend.

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Originally Posted by Staedtler

No, unfortunately, I don’t know of any shops that have a roster full of Sunny’s and Fairy’s standard… but I wasn’t implying on bringing their tier 2 girls up to Sunny and Fairy standard, but simply bring them up to an acceptable standard. A standard that isn’t a terrible massage followed by equally terrible service by a girl that can’t even maintain some acceptable level of grooming (notably, a 10 day growth on the cooch that felt like 20 grit sandpaper rubbing across your skin). All whilst expecting the same payment as a lady that provides very good service. Perhaps management everywhere should implement apprentice rates… until the girl provides a good service they get less pay, just like everyone else in the world.

To be fair, there is one or two other girls at Acqua that are acceptable. But a large majority of Acqua’s new girls over the last several months have been average at best and quite a few have been awful. If it was just one or two over a period of time, you would let it go and not make comment - as is typical across the board, you get below average at all shops. But it seems to be very poor recruiting and training (or lack of) from management’s behalf over a period of time… which seems suitable for this thread.

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Just vote with your feet (or money!) and go elsewhere. Best way to drive change is $$$

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Originally Posted by iamking

I'm not sure why I'm bother entering this fray.
I'm a customer to now 4 shops. Along the way I've dropped some previous regular shops because standards dropped, MLs high turn over, ML very low turn over, shops living off past reputations, and yes bad interactions with MLs. I usually give them a few chances. I tell the owner/manager, and they normally apologise and try setting up a "better" girl. I've been trained on which I enjoyed, and I've had "superstars" that were duds or overpriced leaving me disappointed. I've mentioned some in the past on the forum as well as in PM'S.
I think I am fussy. I pay good money and expect a certain level of service. That does not mean fs or bbbj every single time. Nor do I expect the ML to give me an intimate PS or GF experience every time.
I do expect the girl to look a certain way based on photo, description or recommendation. If the owner says she is inexperienced, then I lower my expectations but also not pay 5 pines.
Some punters prefer to just duck around, just another fussy to pump, other punters want to feel some connectivity. Some want different compared to home others want to feel like a stud. We all have different reasons.
Poppy as an ML, has been around for a long time to know this, including customers who just want to talk. Poppy as a shop owner is still new, and I'm sure what she envisioned and what some of her loyal punters and defenders say has made her defend her "baby" the way she has. Considering the turnover of MLs in her shop, training beyond massage is essential. If Poppy really wants to be the best around, an extras menu for each girl would go a long way, as well as skill or experience level. If that is too hard go the gold, diamond packages like in some brothels.
As much as I like Poppy the ML, Poppy the owner needs to relax. Defending her shop and MLs on here hasn't reflected well either. Take the good with the bad. Overall most punters have been very positive to Star and most of the girls. No shop has a roster full of diamonds. BTW well said FredWard63
Personally from what i know, VFlowers has been around for a while. I've had nothing but pleasant intersections with him over PM and on this forum, even if we don't always agree on things. He has every right to express himself like blutea before him and others. It's not malicious and he is and has a right. He has previously defended MLs rights on here. Now he is just defending the punter's rights.
And finally, Cherry, I love that name. Reminds me of Cherry/Vanilla. I'm sure the Star Cherry will either get better, change shops, retire, but if you stay on, please change your name, maybe Lemon.

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Absolutely spot on king. 100% this.