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Yes I read other guys got cancelled on as well I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by username1
I thought it was just me getting singled out, getting played and cancelled on by these shops & girls
I should stop being Menace. I think I should just take it on the chin and move on. And just see my regulars who will see me and won't cancel
I don't think you should give up. This is obviously important to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
If you're not going to take the lawsuit seriously, I'd look at options like ACA; they love checking in on dodgy operators. Failing that, getting published in the Sun Herald might give you issue more visibility. Or you could head outside and shake your fists at the clouds.
Good luck, good speed.
HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm still waiting for the paragraphs of complaints on Twitter/Instagram/"Big American Companies" etc that he went on about too!!Quote:
Originally Posted by keebab
mn69 bro don't worry, the WL you attacked (that you keep ignoring when mentioned) moved on too! She was put in real life danger because of you but is still living and still very popular! If she can move on, I'm sure you can too.
The way you write I hope to reach this level one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
If my booking was delayed by 30 minutes when I arrived.
Baby, wait for me; I will come quickly.
OK, no problem, I will wait.
I waited 40 minutes; she arrived and said sorry.
The service she provided that night was very good; perhaps it was an apology?
I was very happy, and she seemed happy.
I don't mind if this happened, as you say (it's not a perfect world).
I agree with you mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by vitamin
One thing when I say with no reason I was wrong to say if I mean with no reasonable reason.
Yes they cant force any girl to the work if she not in the mood or very tired.
The past week I visit shop i see in there roster they have new girl and I give it a try.
She was good .... after we finished she told me that sometimes iam to exhausted I can't welcome any customer even if they are nice for the rest of the day.
So yes you are right.
But remember if this go out of control the shop gonna lost money.
Full respect to you and have a good day.
I agree with this. While its fine and a girl has a "Right" to refuse customers and see who she wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thedogboy
But if the girl is too picky and refuses to see every customer, then the shop will lose money.
Like what is the point of her working at the shop and being rostered her on if she is not going to see anyone 555
You keep saying this, but it seems you DO take exception when her exception is YOU.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
But she's not refusing to see EVERY customer, she's only refusing to see {some} customers, where you are a member of {some}.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
You keep repeating, so I keep repeating: she is seeing {some} customers, but you are NOT a member of that {some}.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
A girl is there to make money, I'm sure she is. Just NOT from you.
I see what you mean brother. She probably "excluded" me. I get it. Its not about me though...Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
This is not some Elite Free-Mason's / P.Diddy exclusive VIP party club where you need to be vetted by the top celebs and most powerful people in the world to join.
Were just talking about some Hooker here working at a FS shop
Every customer the girl refuses and cancels is a loss of income for the shop. Its all about cash flow for these businesses. They don't give a shit if a girl likes a customer or not. They just want the girl to work and make money for them.
From the business/shop's point of view, its a loss of income. For the girl its personal. But the shop don't give a shit. Its business for them. For me, I don't give a shit if the girl likes me either. I'm just there to pay, f*ck then leave. Its not supposed to be personal. Its Business. This IS Business
Well clearly it looks like you care if the girl likes you or not. If she liked you she would have seen you but here is the twist she doesn't now it may come as a shocking surprise but hey what can we do besides complain about how the shops, girls,us punters and the government who are losing money over this stupid shit. It's like an Indian guy booking a No Indian WL and then ranting about how the girl rejected him because he was Indian. He keeps saying it's business and the goes and cry about how some Hooker working at FS shop as he mentioned refused to see him. And now don't get the bright idea of getting a new number and booking the same girl just to get rejected when you get to the shop like the hundredth time, cause I can't deal with stupid thread like this anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
If you don't like the thread, then don't read it 555Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki
All I'm saying is, this should not be complicated. It should not matter who the girl likes. But these girls complicate it by getting their feelings involved
There should not be any feelings here. It is a business. We just pay, f*ck then leave. These girls ain't my GF/wife. These are hookers were talkng about. It should be as easy as booking, arriving. Then wham, baam, thank you maam
You think people care if Apple staff like you when they sell you the new iPhones. Its Business
Except not all business is the same. I’ve got plenty of mates in construction that will not take any jobs from lawyers because they never pay on time/weasel out of paying. It’s not worth their time.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
Also have friends that used to be working girls that would absolutely refuse clients because they are rough or aggressive or smoke or just plain hard work. Girls want to come in and do their job without the headfuck of dealing with customers that constantly want to push boundaries.
Same thing with my work in hospo. Some people aren’t worth the effort and it’s better in the end to just get rid of them. These people aren’t good customers if they are carrying on and upsetting your staff. And the problems they cause with staff cost you money as replacing a good staff member is much harder than replacing a deadbeat customer.
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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
I agree with BRAVO -- how do u know if she is refusing to see "every" customer?Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
And even if she is that hers choice - her body her choice she can refuse if she likes
If shes not getting enough customers due to refusing ppl (again her choice) she can chose to leave the shop or shop can give her the boot - end of the day thats up to the girl and the shop
still dont see how any of this has to do with who and how many ppl the girl refuses to see other than u still holding a grudge that either the girl or shop refused to see you....
bro u know what why dont you just say who the girl was that rejected you or said no to ur booking when u arrived but u saw her working and was not "sick"
Probly one of the punters here is her regular and can ask her for u and end the mystery once and for all as to why she refuse to see you so we can put this to bed and be done with it .....
so now ur resorting to shaming her and name calling with derogatory terms like a hooker?Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
True as that may be but dont sound like ur a gentleman or respectful customer if ur gonna turn around and go calling her a hooker cos she wont see "you" ...
and again whether its the loss of income for girl or shop - thats up to them ...
as many others have pointed out above - they do give a shit thats why they have the cameras and girls can see the waiting room? -- or you are so blinded by the hate and spite you have forgotten or missed the memo?
judgin from this thread u started and ur posts that go on and on it certainly does seem like it is about u... LOL
as for ur comment on pay fuck leave -- doesnt seem like ur able to just leave and let this go....
ahahahaaha it seem quite logical what the issue and solution is huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki
Yet everyday LKP just posts and replies to this and others that have told him the same thing ie its the girls choice and to just move on but here we are
ahahahahaha it sounds like u got more feelings invested into this than the girl who simply said "yea nope" not seeing him baam wham done wait for my next booking LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
This thread got started on 31 Jan with ur alias account and almost a month later u still cant get over it
U wanna use ur apple example? -- its like a poorly dressed bad hygiene person walks into an apple store
they wont refuse to sell u the iphone but u might be wondering around the shop for a long long time and go hmmmm why are people avoiding me and no one wants to come serve me?
Or oh that guy or that chick seems hot let me go chat them up and have them explain to me the specs of the iphone.... they (APPLE) WILL NOT refuse to sell u an iphone but even the working staff have the right to walk away or pretend they dont see u cos they dont wont to serve u
same goes for an arrogant prick whos condescending, arrogant and belittling.... they might be decked out in designer brands and hold platinum cards but doesnt mean all staff will want to serve them
again its the staffs choice to say sorry im helping this customer let me get someone else to help you - APPLE is NOT refusing to sell u the iphone but just gotta wait around until another staff is willing to serve u
U get the point? Its ur money so walk with ur wallet be that the shop or the girl they dont want ur business then move on and pick or go somewhere else
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...=1#post3336211Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
Mate, you were so close, but you keep falling back into these bad habits of lashing out (at the girls, the shops, and even people here).Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
So let's get down to the reason: you don't know why you got cancelled on.
The point is, you'll never know the reason.
Like I've said, I've been cancelled on too. Most of the time I got a reason ('she's sick', 'she cancelled for the whole day', etc), other times no reason, just that my booking was cancelled.
Like I've said, some of the girls have told me the reasons too (they were sick, life things happened, etc). Others haven't or just basics (I only tend to ask if they're alright, especially if they cancelled before because they were sick). And some I never ended up seeing.
For the ones who have shared, I'm very appreciative they trusted me.
The shops have told me someone cancelled the whole day, and I can see she's not on the roster anymore.
I've seen quite a few comments here about how WLs have told them about horrible customers they've had.
For the ones who haven't told me anything, I totally understand, knowing there are scumbags out there.
And you know what - it could also be that at any point, someone could be lying or not telling the whole truth.
Which makes sense, right? These WLs can be put in very vulnerable positions - they can be seriously hurt.
So I don't begrudge them anything if they don't tell me anything, or don't want to see me - they are trying to protect themselves.
And the same for if they have customers they don't want to see again.
You're right, it's not at all complicated: the girls get to see whoever they want. That's the business. That's their right.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
If they lose money, that's their right.
It's not about whether they 'like' someone. It's whether or not they'll get hurt. Whether because the guy's dick is too big, or he's rough, or she thinks he might be rough, or because ...she doesn't like the way he dresses?
They are service providers, and they have the right to refuse service. Why are you trying to get around their rights?
Yes, they are probably losing out on money. But that's their choice.
Why do you keep saying they should be forced to see customers when they don't want to? That's their right.
Why do you keep saying that they have poor work ethic and the shops should fire them, when it seems they are not seeing certain customers to protect themselves, and the shops haven't fired them, so they're fine with it anyway? Why do you get to dictate what happens to them, when it seems everyone else is fine with them exercising their freedoms and rights?
Why do you keep disrespecting these 'beautiful and exotic women' constantly?
It seems you keep getting your feelings involved?
You know, there was a post late last year about a guy who fell in love with a WL. To the point he came here asking for advice, because the WL went out of her way to tell him directly, that she didn't want to see him anymore or for him to visit the shop, because she could tell how he felt.
He told the forum this, and asked what he should do.
For the ones who took it seriously (because there's the obvious chance it was a troll/fake post), they told him, she already told him what to do: leave her the fuck alone. She said it as nicely as possible, but he couldn't get it in his head that he should leave her alone.
Imagine if he kept going to that shop to try and see her. The stress she would be put under. The possibility of him actually physically lashing out at the shop staff, the girl herself, and others there. What if he had brought a weapon?
That's the possible reality some of these people have to deal with.
Because there are actual psychos out there.
Sure, it could just be 'Asian culture' as you say (don't know why you would bring race into this - pretty sure avoidance of unpleasant things is universal), but it could also be that a girl doesn't want to be physically attacked by some unhinged lunatic.
If a WL - hell if anyone did anything in their power to stop something like that happening to them, I wouldn't begrudge them at all if they ghosted, or lied, or changed names or locations.
But do you see where you kind of fit into all this?
You're the one attacking the girls and the shops.
That's just not on.
You don't know why they cancelled on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
Sure, you've lost out on time and petrol, but not money, as they can refuse anyone's service.
Everyone else here has said they've also had cancellations. They either stop going, or keep going. Also their choice.
If you have a complaint about the shop, any shop: take it up with them. Report them to the ACCC or whatever. That's a business matter. Maybe make an itemised list on toll charges and petrol so they can check it against an invoice. Who knows - you might have a case for partial reimbursement for travel?
But everyone else here has said their piece, just as you have.
Everyone has made their choice about the shop on whether they'll ever go back or not.
No need to bring it up ever again.
Make your choice: either keep going, or never give them your business again. We don't need to know. Let your money do the talking.
When it comes to the girls - you keep saying you 'have the utmost respect' for them, but also have no issues denigrating them, making fun and light of them suffering mentally and physically, and also tend to insinuate they've provided services to you that they have been listed as not providing at all (and that others have also vouched that they don't provide).
That sounds personal.
I don't know why you have been targeting specific girls.
Whether they have been the ones to cancel on you, whether you've actually ever met them or not, or you pick them at random.
None of that really matters: just fucking stop. Stop mentioning them. Stop targeting them.
If you have seen them, and want to share an AR... don't. The ones you have written seem to be the summaries/amalgamations of all other ARs of them. You add nothing new or updated or any details.
If you have seen them, just keep it to yourself. Have yourself a hidden gem. It's okay, we understand.
No need to PM others either, as it seems the information you have is already on the open forum.
Just don't go spreading lies and hate on your little personal vendetta, when you should just move on and walk away.
Because you could be responsible (directly or indirectly) for getting people actually hurt.
And that'd be fucked up.
There really is no need for you to comment.
You make the same points over and over again.
Whether people agree or disagree with you, you still reiterate the same things, so there's no need for you to comment.
You should just move on.
Other things you say are either nonsense, self-contradictory, or things other people have already said, so there's no need for you to comment.
You should just move on.
If you do get cancelled on again, or never go back to a certain shop, that's between you and the shop, so there's no need for you to comment.
You've said it's business, so treat it as business.
You should just move on.
Do a little bit more self-reflecting, as you've said you've done.
Realise you are the menace.
So stop, and just move on.
That's a good reply and he needs to read and digest every word of it. But I suspect he's too far gone the way he keeps it up. Have to wonder how he treats all the women in his life, not just WLs.
Gee so much respect for these girls. And you wonder why they don't wanna see you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
Like if you get rejected to get FS even with money that's probably mean there something wrong about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki
You have to think why she accept everyone and you get rejected.
So if you can't even hook with WL what about your life outside this fantasy punting world?
I believe some people complain about things like this to just feel bteer.
If you get rejected don't embarrass yourself here on the forum and cry no one give a fuck about you here it's fucking sex forum.
Sometimes I visit random girls with no booking treat them will with respect and I get very good service and one of them give me CIM with no extra:).
when I was shitty guy with no manners they don't even let me kiss lol.
So if you get rejected it's because you are not good don't blame the girl just work on your self.
Be gentleman be respected be nice and you won't get rejected.
I've seen some Indian visit some shops and seriously they look like shit I feel disgusted when I see them.
Iam not talking about you mate talking in general about the guys crying about rejected.
Yup that's the thing about these type of people. One rejection and they feel like the whole world has turned against them. Like c'mon we ain't no saint we are paying to have sex if the ladies don't like you choose a different one and if none of the ladies in that shop like you choose another shop that's supposed to be the beauty of it when you are paying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thedogboy
Lets take personal things out of this and talk purely numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack-Jack
It may not seem like much if you isolate me as a single customer being cancelled on. 1 customer may not seem like much
But say in a week, a girl may cancel on 5 potential customers as she is picky and may not like all of her customers.
Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week
In a year, thats $78,000 gross income loss for the shop
If say, they have 5 girls doing this, thats $390,000 gross income loss for the shop in a year
The 2 parties that loses out when a girl does this is the customer and the shop/business. You have an unhappy customer and a shop losing money.
Thats ALOT of money being lost for the shop/business just because of a girls ego with cancelling on customers. If I was the owner I would be pissed. Thats why I urge shops to take more control over their girls and encourage them to be more "liberal" and open-minded when cancelling bookings just because they don't "like" to see a customer.
“Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week”
The shop doesn’t lose that amount. Around 60% goes to the lady. Your maths is way out.
If you read it properly, I wrote "gross" income. Not "net" income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keeping Up
The assumption here just cause the girl "cancels" a booking, its a loss to the shop. I don't think that's the case, the girls pay the owners to use their shop Eg $300-$500 for the day or whatever agreement with the owner, the owners get a cut regardless if the girl see customers or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
So if girls cancel or no one books to see them, its a lost for the girl. You often see Owners pushing you to see certain girls, its to help them make money aswell.